View Full Version : Candida or detox symptoms?
12-08-2006, 03:35 PM
Dear All, I have been following Alissa's diet for about a month now. Initially I felt great--energetic, boosted immune system, needed less sleep and less coffee, etc. Recently (last 4-5 days) my candida symptoms have returned: constipation, incontinence, morning fatique and fogginess, bloating, and I failed the spit test. So, I wonder: has the diet and all the fruit exacerbated a candida condition that was under control? Or are these detox symptoms, indicating that I am moving to a new, higher level of health? Does anyone have any insights or has anyone experienced a similar reaction? Another possible explanation derives from Chinese medicine: according to the Chinese system, candida is the symptom of deficient kidney and spleen chi. This condition is treated by eating warm and warming foods and avoiding raw foods (the reason I didn't try this diet for over a year after first learning about it). If that is the case, then perhaps I should drop the diet altogether, but after hearing so many inspiring stories, I am loathe to do that.
Well, I'm guessing it is detox - personally I've had candida for 4 or 5 years of my life, with horrible cramps etc. I followed a candida-diet (no sugar - including no fruit) and took something called Threelac - that helped tremendously - but I wasn't yet feeling as good as I knew I could - I then followed something called the paleo-diet (lots of raw greens, fruits (but bot many, I was still a little afraid of them) fish and meat - no grains, dairy or artificial stuff) - that helped too, but I noticed that the more raw greens and fruit I ate the better I felt - then I came across raw - and that just made sense, so I went 100% over night (ca. five moths ago) to begin with I felt like you did - energetic, almost estatic, my skin cleared up - I tend getting mild acne and I just felt wonderful! - BUT after 2-3 weeks I suddenly wasn't feeling so great, and my skin got worse than before raw - the detox had come along, but after that wen't away - I felt better than ever.
If I were you I'd make sure to eat either a lot of fat and greens on a low-fruit diet OR a lot of fruit and greens on a low-fat diet that seems to help my candida symptoms, if I mix sweet fruit and fats they come back.
just my 2 cents.
12-10-2006, 09:37 AM
possible explanation derives from Chinese medicine: according to the Chinese system, candida is the symptom of deficient kidney and spleen chi. This condition is treated by eating warm and warming foods and avoiding raw foods (the reason I didn't try this diet for over a year after first learning about it)
I would recommend avoiding raw foods right out of the fridge because they are too cold for the body.
Raw foods should be at room temp. Let them sit out for a little bit or even warm them in the sun before eating.
Some spices are good for warming the body up.
I had the same problem as you did. When I first went raw I felt wonderful but as time went on my yeast problems came back. I was not 100% raw though and I probably should of been. I think eating too many fats and fruits can be bad for candida.
My suggestions are to expirement with how you feel better, whether it's low fruits or low fat.
12-10-2006, 09:40 AM
It's all detox. I think somewhere on this forum you'll find something where I, or someone else, mentions "Re-tracing".
Also, as vglove says, if you are not 100% then that's an issue. Both Jinjee and Rawkinlocs talk about this as well.
12-10-2006, 11:07 AM
If it is a cleansing phase, it should pass fairly quickly, within a week or so. But if you are still feeling poorly after that, you should examine your diet and look for ways to improve it.
All the best,
12-11-2006, 11:30 AM
Thank you so much for all the suggestions. Based on your comments, I am assuming that my symptoms are a form of detox-retracing and will stick to the raw plan! Already many symptoms have passed; so that is a good sign.
I appreciate the advice: I will warm food to room temp, cut back on fruity/nutty deserts (I have been indulging a bit in the raw goodies!), and will focus on low glycemic foods and warming spices instead.
I appreciate having a community to "talk" to about this. And, I am glad to see so many folks on the site from Washington State (where I grew up). Haven't lived there since '86 though, so I miss it!
Best wishes to all,
happy to hear you are feeling better!
Keep on truckin'
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