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vgloveforlife
11-19-2006, 10:43 AM
Hi everyone-I would really appreciate some help with this situation. As some may remember my daughter has been getting sick since we went high raw. The doctors said it was a bladder infection and I think she has high yeast in her body too.
She is not very high raw anymore but her diet has changed a lot like more greens, nuts etc.
Her symptoms include rashes around her mouth and a rash on her vulva and lots of itching. She was never itchy there before and now she is all the time. Anyone else experience this? Do you think it's high yeast and what should we do to get rid of it? Her normal diet is:

B-Either green smoothie (spinach/greens, hemp, coconut oil, apple) OR oats with nut/seed milk, brewers yeast, banana.

L-Sprouted grain burrito shell with beans, guacomole, lettuce, onion, nutritional yeast cheese and tomatoes

D-Big salad with variety of greens and vegetables and whole wheat spaghetti with pesto, tomato sauce and seaweed.

S-Rice cake with peanut butter and molasses.

Liquids include just water usually. Do you think her diet is too high in fat? Sugar? Yeast? I'm confused as to what is causing this.

Thanks for any help!

Sharon in Colorado
11-19-2006, 10:53 AM
The wheat and peanut butter could be the culprits, that is a huge allergen with most people.

Why no fruit?

RowanC
11-19-2006, 11:03 AM
I'd also get her on some acidophilus culture.

I'd use live cultured yogurt as medicine and spread a little on her vulva and mouth at night to help the itching.

I also agree with getting her off wheat and p-b.

How old is she? Did I miss that?

vgloveforlife
11-19-2006, 11:13 AM
Thanks for the suggestions!

I've suspected peanut butter and wheat but we've always eaten these foods and the yeast seemed to get much worse when we wen't high raw 8 months ago. Our fat intake increased big time and I wonder if this has anything to do with it?

She does take a probiotic daily. She is 6 years old.

Fruit is something that we just don't eat much of anymore because the weather is colder and we don't crave it but we did just have a huge papaya this morning. Do you think we should increase our fruit intake?

RowanC
11-19-2006, 12:34 PM
There is a lot of information on Candida overgrowth on the web. Do a google.. then use your intuition as you read through it?

vgloveforlife
11-19-2006, 01:02 PM
Thanks RowanC-I was just hoping I could get a personal experience of someone dealing with the same thing.

Sharon in Colorado
11-19-2006, 01:03 PM
High fat in the blood could be a culprit for sure. It causes sugars to stay in the blood longer which triggers sugar-related problems. You may want to look into food combining, not eating fruit with fat and lowering her fat intake. A lot of people with candida symptoms who tried the high fruit low fat diet have seen their symptoms dissapear.

RowanC
11-19-2006, 01:08 PM
We've had experience with my granddaughter and I've had experience, but I've used acidophilus yogurt as a remedy. I'm not sure if non-vegan items are allowed when used as medicine. Maybe someone should clarify this? It cleared hers right up... Along with that, we took her off wheat, pb, and sugar. We left fruit in, but limited it until the yeast cleared up.

It's possible, also, remember, that going 'high raw' has put her into a cleansing mode and that the yeast is breathing its last breath by this manifestation?

Jaz
11-19-2006, 03:06 PM
Your daughter may possibly be having problems with: grains (such as wheat, rice, oats, etc.) nuts/seeds (challenging to digest and may be contaminated such as fungus from sitting in storage), oils (gone rancid, processed, overloading body with fat), brewers/nutritional yeast, seaweed, and even probiotics as well as food combining issues.

There's a book called Grain Damage by Dr. Doug Graham that has info on why eating grains are unhealthy. Also, he has a new book called 80/10/10 Diet that may interest you. For more info, check out his site:
http://www.foodnsport.com
and his message board if you want to post your question and search the archives:
http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/index.html

Some other things to consider for your daughter's health: mono meals, eliminating fatty foods for a period of time, fasting, getting fresh air and sunlight, exercising, and being in a nontoxic environment

hope this helps

Jaz
11-19-2006, 10:12 PM
Also, consider the personal care/home cleaning products that may be toxic to your daughter. For example, shampoos, soaps, lotions, toothpaste, perfume, shaving cream/gels, tampons, detergents, fabric softeners, bleach, dishwashing soap, perfumed/bleached toilet paper and the list goes on.

juliebove
11-20-2006, 12:46 AM
It's also possible that the culprit is something she is bathing in. My daughter has food allergies and will get a rash if she uses something she is allergic to in the bath. Such as oatmeal, wheat or soy. These are used in some soaps and other kid's bath products.

vgloveforlife
11-20-2006, 07:58 AM
I appreciate all the helpful posts!
We are going to cut way back on fats. I thought children needed fats for development though.

Raw Mom
11-20-2006, 08:21 AM
I seemed to always have itching, before......It was diagnosed as bacterial vaginosis(many women have this, just undiagnosed)....I attributed it to way too much sugar and add the stress factor(cause the dr's diagnosis WAS NOT accurate). Then when I went off of sugar, it still had to come out of me. Detox. So the itching went one for a bit more. I had some natural pill I found on the internet that I took a couple times a week and whenever I had an outbreak. (I never got a rash, only itching in vaginal area). Since I went raw (90-100%), I haven't taken those pills. When I "feel" like it might be coming on, I drink more water, and put wheatgrass in my drinks. I know how hard it is to keep both those areas dry on a child, which doesn't help the situation. Good luck..

Revvell
11-20-2006, 08:26 AM
I agree ~ cheese, wheat AND "Brewers YEAST" and Nutritional "YEAST".

Also, beside acidolphilus get some GSE (grapefruit see extract). Dilute it ~ maybe 3 drops to an 6 or 8 0z glass. Gently pat this on whatever she's got going on.

Jinjee has said when she went 100% raw all her yeast problems disappeared. When she had even a bit of cooked food they came back. This happens to me as well. The fat and the fruit don't matter. Processed/cooked foods do.

Revvell

Rawkinlocs
11-20-2006, 08:29 AM
Vg,

I know you've probably read this of me before, but I have to just reiterate it...I had candida that manifested itself in the form of chronic vaginal yeast infections and oral thrush where I got awful red and/or white blotches on the insides of my cheeks, on my tongue and the inner part of my lips.

The ONLY thing that helped me get rid of that is when I went 100% raw (no restrictions, just raw). If I dare eat cooked things such as grain products or products with sugar, I get a flare-up in my mouth and a not-so-nice reminder for a day or two as after that, ANYthing I eat burns my mouth until the blotches go away.

Just something to consider...

((Revvell, we were typing at the same time...Jinjee and I share almost the same testimony!))

michigan roman
11-20-2006, 08:31 AM
dont have time to read thread to see if this mentioned but i just read about oregano oil being used to treat this , but its distilled thusly not raw .

though maybe a very strong oregano sun tea could be of help .

goodday :)

vgloveforlife
11-20-2006, 09:10 AM
Revvell: Just to clarify-she does not eat cheese but a nutritional yeast "cheese". I remember reading somewhere that yeast doesn't effect yeast in the body?? We don't use these yeasts that often but they are part of our diet.
It is so hard to find bread or tortillas without wheat but maybe it's time to give up bread altogether.

I do have faith in raw and I think we will probably both take the plunge into high raw again and see if that helps. Do you think beans would pose a problem to Candida?

Revvell
11-20-2006, 09:20 AM
I'm confused. Why not go 100% instead of half-stepping and looking for alternative solutions. I would eliminate the yeast-based products and find out for sure if they are causing the problem or not. Wheat/bread is a major cause of many problems/allergies. That and dairy (yes, I read what you said) were the first things I gave up. What an improvement in my health!

Revvell

vgloveforlife
11-20-2006, 09:52 AM
Well because when we were high raw before she was getting sick all the time. This makes me hesitate. We weren't 100% raw though, we were eating bread a lot and maybe that is what was bothering her.
I would like to try high raw again (with lower fat and no bread) with her and see if it eliminates these problems.