best raw protein and fat

[freetarian]

Whats the best raw foods for protein and fat? :confused:

Thanks.


:)

[Nix]

your best source of protein is leafy greens. One standard bunch of parsley has the protein of two eggs...I eat this in a smoothie with fruit each day, although I mix up which greens and which fruit I use, today's was turnip greens and pears.
Fats-easily the best are advocados, coconuts, and various raw nuts (soak these to get rid of the inhibitors first, at least the ones that need soaking).
Omega 3 can be gotten best in flax seed, walnuts and I believe even parsely has some.
Lots of great sources out there!
Nix

[LightLover]

omega-3 highest: flaxseed, hempseed and chiaseed. Works best when some coconutoil added.

LL

[exurb]

One standard bunch of parsley has the protein of two eggs

Nix, check your info, it's WAY off :eek: . What source are you using for that?

Two eggs has approx 13 grams of protein.

A full cup of packed parsley leaves has 1.7 grams

10 sprigs of parsley has 0.3 grams.


though the flax seed you mentioned are high in protein. A cup of flax is 30 grams protein, though it is recommended by studies to keep flax consumption under 50 grams a day, which I think is somewhere around 1/4 cup.

[dreamrawalwz]

Nix, check your info, it's WAY off :eek: . What source are you using for that?

Two eggs has approx 13 grams of protein.

A full cup of packed parsley leaves has 1.7 grams

10 sprigs of parsley has 0.3 grams.


though the flax seed you mentioned are high in protein. A cup of flax is 30 grams protein, though it is recommended by studies to keep flax consumption under 50 grams a day, which I think is somewhere around 1/4 cup.

I'm not sure, but maybe she was referring to the USABLE protein in the egg by the body since we don't use nearly the amount of protein that is really in the eggs...?

[fiddler]

Whats the best raw foods for protein and fat? :confused: :)The best raw foods for protein are fruits and vegetables.
The raw foods having the most protein are nuts and seeds.

The best raw foods for fat are fruits and vegetables.
The raw foods having the most fat are oils.

[Rmiller]

Hi Exurb,

Why have you heard that we should keep our flax seed consumption to about 50g or 1/4 cup??

I've never heard that before at all???

Lisa

[freetarian]

One standard bunch of parsley has the protein of two eggs...I eat this in a smoothie with fruit each day, although I mix up which greens and which fruit I use, today's was turnip greens and pears.


Cool....Ill try the parsley and put it in a smoothie also....I might also add avocado to it, no?


Do you guys eat the flax just like that or do you also put it in smoothies? I dont know anything about flax, or did you refer to the seeds?

I dont eat nuts..they concrete my stomach....so what I need is actually a light form of protein...I guess seeds might be heavy too, tho Ive never eaten any seeds so far. Gotta do some experiments I guess.


Oh uhm....can you tell me what 'leafy greens' are specifically...whats the names of the best 'leafy greens'? (I dont know anything about veggies to be honest...)

[DavidZaneMason]

Some dark leafy greens include: Spinach, Swiss Chard, Kale, and darker lettuces and veggies like Romaine, Bibb, Bok Choi, etc. There are many others.

-David Mason

[freetarian]

Hm thanks...I cant eat salads, theyre not good for me...I need something else I guess....I just dont know what it is that I need....help!

[Missrawdiva]

I have to agree with LightLover with Hempseeds! In my book they are the BEST source of protien and fat! Hempseeds contain 33% Protein, 45% Fat, and 15% carbs. A great source of fat is also coconut oil. (a good book to read is the Miracles of Coconut Oil, very informative.)

[rawfigure]

can you juice Kale with romaine, apple and lemon ? that has a good protein ratio. Add some hemp or hemp powder to boost protein more.

[exurb]

Why have you heard that we should keep our flax seed consumption to about 50g or 1/4 cup??

Lisa, flax also contains hydrogen cyanide. In animal studies flax starts to show negative effects in proportions greater than 3% of the total diet. In another human study the recommendation of 50g emerged as the upper limit, note that this study also recommended that some is beneficial... ie some is better than none, but too much started to show negative effects.

[Nix]

Hm thanks...I cant eat salads, theyre not good for me...I need something else I guess....I just dont know what it is that I need....help!

I actually recommend you blend all of those greens with fruit and rotate around each day with a different smoothie.
As for the source of saying parsley has that much protein, I mean in terms of absorption. Other greens may be just as effective.
Kale, Swiss and Rainbow Chard, spinach all work very well blended into a smoothie and are easily digested this way.
Enjoy!
Nix

[sport]

Lisa, flax also contains hydrogen cyanide. In animal studies flax starts to show negative effects in proportions greater than 3% of the total diet. In another human study the recommendation of 50g emerged as the upper limit, note that this study also recommended that some is beneficial... ie some is better than none, but too much started to show negative effects.
I want to say that this is also my understanding. Do not overdo the flax seed.

[freetarian]

Thanks.

So you need a juicer to juice parsley for example?

I have a thingy that is a centrifuge where you can juice carrots...but I guess thats not the right thing to juice greens??

The thing is...Im still ill and I found out its just a struggle for me to go on fruits alone....I can go on fruits alone in case I eat two eggs per day....so I figure its protein that I need, although Im not sure...thats why Im looking for a substitute for eggs.....I just need the equivalent of two eggs or three per day, the rest is fruit....I dont want to eat nuts cuz as I said, they are just like concrete in my stomach.....I could try to soak them and make almond milk and put them in a banana smoothie, maybe then theyre not so heavy...I dont know, all I know is that Im sick of eggs, lol. I need something better than that.

[freetarian]

I actually recommend you blend all of those greens with fruit and rotate around each day with a different smoothie.

So that means kale, chard, spinach, parsley, and hempseeds, and flax all blended together with fruit?
Or just one type of veggie at one time + one type of fruit?

Maybe I should blend all these veggies to have the highest amount of protein and also put avocado in it so that I only have to drink that once or twice a day? Or maybe that doesnt taste good, lol.

[Nix]

So that means kale, chard, spinach, parsley, and hempseeds, and flax all blended together with fruit?
Or just one type of veggie at one time + one type of fruit?

Maybe I should blend all these veggies to have the highest amount of protein and also put avocado in it so that I only have to drink that once or twice a day? Or maybe that doesnt taste good, lol.

Here is what I do...4 pears, one bunch of parsley a dash of raw honey, blend thorougly, drink.
http://www.emaxhealth.com/14/1182.html
The above website will give you more ideas and information to go on. Ode to a Green Smoothie by Victoria Boutenko (google for it if you can't get the link to work!)
While you don't have to have a Vitamix, a food processors then blend keeps you from burning up your blender like I have mine a few times!
Nix

[Shmoopie]

Freetarian, some say that centrifuge juicers are ok for green leafy vegetables if you grab a handful, roll it up tight - like into a ball - and put it through the juicer. So try that.

However, if you find it affordable and are interested, masticating juicers are great for juicing a wider variety of foods. I have an omega 8005, and there's nothing to date that I've put through it that didn't come out really well juiced. I've juiced hard fruits and veggies, soft ones, leafy stuff; it makes no difference. It turns a LOT slower than a centrifuge juicer (and just works in a different way. All that speed is not needed) and thus gets less heated. Your produce isn't being heated, there's less foam (apples are the only thing I get some foam on, and it's not a lot), and your juice has more live nutrients in it. Or so they say :) Plus, you can make the banana "ice cream" with it, nut butters, applesauce, baby food, pasta (if there are people in your house who eat cooked food. In that case, is also does these things...) grinds meat, makes yogurt, and minces. I think it minces.

I did tons of reasearch before I bought my juicer both on quality and price, and I thought the Omega seemed to make the most sense, plus it has a great warranty. The cheapest price I found for it was on 877myjuicer.com if you think you wanna get one. If not, like I said, try rolling your leafy greens into a ball and putting them through the centrifuge, and it should be fine.

Also, you don't necessarily wanna put all of your leafy vegetables into one smoothie and have that every day. Some say having the same vegetables too often will create an allergy to them. Rotate them. Have one or two one day, than a different one or two the next day, than even a different one or two the next day, and then start over. That way, you're spacing them out and not having them too much. Or have one or two for a couple days in a row, then switch to something else for a couple days, and so on.

[freetarian]

Oki...thanks...will try that.

I really want to get off the eggs. They make my skin look leatherlike and it seems to inhibit digestion...fruit always make me digest well, but Im sick of struggeling...I need to fix that once and for all.

[LightLover]

I want to say that this is also my understanding. Do not overdo the flax seed.


Originally Posted by exurb
Lisa, flax also contains hydrogen cyanide. In animal studies flax starts to show negative effects in proportions greater than 3% of the total diet. In another human study the recommendation of 50g emerged as the upper limit, note that this study also recommended that some is beneficial... ie some is better than none, but too much started to show negative effects.

** Is this the only seed with hydrogen cyanide?

LL

[exurb]

LightLover I understand apple seeds also do, but we are not making recipes with cups and cups of apple seeds, so I think it's negligible and not to worry.

I wouldn't think other seeds we generally eat would be as much of a red flag, if you think of linseed oil = flax oil, we use that to preserve wood, etc., so it's probably a rare one.

Flax is good for you in many other ways, so I'm not saying don't eat flax, I'm just saying that there are credible recommendations to not get into eating crazy amounts of the stuff. When people say to me they are feeling so sick on raw, and I say what are you eating, some are eating a whole cracker recipe with 2 cups of flax every day or two.

thanks sport for concurring. :)

freetarian, trying to get off the eggs, at least don't ever eat raw egg white, I understand that is not good.

freetarian, you could try to buy some good quality hemp nuts (they look like small seeds really). They blend beautifully into your drinks. I much prefer the true food, the hemp seeds, to the hemp protein powder. You can make hemp nut milk really easily without the pain in the butt process of other nut milks, as the hemp will almost dissolve just in the blender, no straining required.

[freetarian]

Yeah thanks exurb. It will be hard to get hemp nuts here where I live but trying doesnt hurt, right. Lol.

Nah I dont eat the eggs raw, lol. I cook them.

The problem is, I dont get clear messages from my body what I need. That means, I do get clear messages, but I cannot live with them.
Its like if you ask me if eggs are fine, then the answer is no.
But the problem is, the answer to veggies is no too! Arrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhh.
The only thing that gets a clear yes is fruit, so all I want is fruit only, but I go crazy on fruit alone, I swear. I always get so dizzy in the second half of the day that Id swear I collapse.
When I ask myself what I need to handle the dizziness then the answer is I shouldnt try to handle the dizziness in the first place!! I should just let it happen, but I swear I lose it when I just let it happen. When I try to let it happen then it usually results in a panic attack because Im so scared I collapse..actually what Im scared of is that when I collapse then they put me in a hospital and drug me up. Im not afraid of losing it, Im afraid of ending up in a hospital. Im really stuck.

As long as I took meds it wasnt really a problem to be on fruits alone...then I quit the meds, and since then I have a hard time...that was almost three months ago.

Another problem is that when I eat fruit only, then I also get more energy, but I still get fainting spells...its like one day on fruit alone is ok, but all subsequent days fruit only are really harsh...and the thing is, I always have to force myself to eat anything else to get rid of the dizziness. If I fully obeyed my body then I would only eat fruits and just go through the dizziness no matter what...but its so scary and thats why I always end up forcing myself to eat something to cut the fainting.

I mean i get a clear negative answer to eggs and veggies....but I want to make a compromise ya know...maybe I can lace the fruitarian diet with something better than eggs...that would be really cool.

[Faithfullyfit]

Hm thanks...I cant eat salads, theyre not good for me...I need something else I guess....I just dont know what it is that I need....help!


Green Smoothies are the easiest way to up those greens if you don't care for salads. My favorite is 4-6 cups of Kale, 2 bananas (frozen) and 1 cup organic blueberries..........YUMMY! ;)

[RawTruth]

Yeah thanks exurb. It will be hard to get hemp nuts here where I live but trying doesnt hurt, right. Lol.

Nah I dont eat the eggs raw, lol. I cook them.

The problem is, I dont get clear messages from my body what I need. That means, I do get clear messages, but I cannot live with them.
Its like if you ask me if eggs are fine, then the answer is no.
But the problem is, the answer to veggies is no too! Arrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhh.
The only thing that gets a clear yes is fruit, so all I want is fruit only, but I go crazy on fruit alone, I swear. I always get so dizzy in the second half of the day that Id swear I collapse.
When I ask myself what I need to handle the dizziness then the answer is I shouldnt try to handle the dizziness in the first place!! I should just let it happen, but I swear I lose it when I just let it happen. When I try to let it happen then it usually results in a panic attack because Im so scared I collapse..actually what Im scared of is that when I collapse then they put me in a hospital and drug me up. Im not afraid of losing it, Im afraid of ending up in a hospital. Im really stuck.

As long as I took meds it wasnt really a problem to be on fruits alone...then I quit the meds, and since then I have a hard time...that was almost three months ago.

Another problem is that when I eat fruit only, then I also get more energy, but I still get fainting spells...its like one day on fruit alone is ok, but all subsequent days fruit only are really harsh...and the thing is, I always have to force myself to eat anything else to get rid of the dizziness. If I fully obeyed my body then I would only eat fruits and just go through the dizziness no matter what...but its so scary and thats why I always end up forcing myself to eat something to cut the fainting.

I mean i get a clear negative answer to eggs and veggies....but I want to make a compromise ya know...maybe I can lace the fruitarian diet with something better than eggs...that would be really cool.A lot of your questions will likely be answered if you're able to get Alissa's book. The first 1/3 of it is basic information. She also has some here on this forum in the section "Need to know more about raw?", especially the section on Protein. Also, to learn about green smoothies (not juice), go to Victoria Boutenko's website www.rawfamily.com and, if possible, pick up some of her books which have decent basic information.

Something to keep in mind is that, as long as you are eating eggs and other cooked foods, your body won't be able to benefit fully from the nutrition and vitality in raw foods. Also, you'll be surprised how, once you're eating only raw, your body will tolerate foods that it didn't previously do well with.

You may also wish to look through older posts that discuss the basics and answers many of the questions you have. This is a wonderful lifestyle you're beginning on.

Best of luck.

[Rmiller]

Interesting info about flax seeds. I had no idea. I guess this just highlights that balance really is key.

[freetarian]

I also thought alissas book might be a good read for me...


Well the case is...I really have a problem with raw veggies....the only raw veggies that I can eat is carrots cuz they taste good...everything else is yuck.

I tried a raw zucchini....I almost spit it out again.
The only way I can eat raw veggies is through smoothies.

Ill try the parsley right now...maybe that tastes better.
Seems like I have to keep on struggling with a fully fruitarian way...I really wonder why this is tough for me, after all ive done it for five months already.

[rawfigure]

I am wondering why you say you need the equivilant of two eggs a day ? are you talking about the protein grams ?

I am a ex Figure Competitor (bodybuilding) and I think our concept of protein needs are distorted. The bodybuilding community is a big offender of pushing protein to point of poor digestive health. This is why I went Raw, retired from shows. This morning my dh told me I have a killer body (he's sweet right ;)) , and he thinks I even look better now that I dropped the high protein from my diet and eating mostly fruit (8-1-1). I went from 125-154 grams a day for 6 years to 30-45 a day now !

You can get you protein from fruits, a few greens in a drink..(add an apple to make it yummy) and add some buckwheat sprouts to your diet, make a cereal/ granola with them, dry them, or eat them freshly sprouted with apple, cinnamon or Whatever ! :D ...and you should be able to get the amino's you need. Buckwheat and lentil sprouts are very good sources and add varity to the diet w/o the salad !!!!!!!!! :p

[freetarian]

Thanks rawfigure...

I said I need two eggs per day because I found out that this is a way to not get dizzy and faintly.....I dont even know if I need the protein or if its just because eggs slow me down a lot....on fruits alone I have three or so bowel movements a day, the eggs slow this down to hardly one...maybe I just need something to slow my metabolism down...I really dont know.

I dont even think I need protein...I just need something to prevent the fainting spells, whatever helps it....

Ill really look into the greens and start experimenting...maybe I can find something that works. Your suggestions sound like it might work that way...I hope it does.

[freetarian]

Buckwheat and lentil is grains right?

Hm....is that any different from other grains? I know for a fact that grains are even worse for me to digest than nuts......

[Sharon in Colorado]

Buckwheat = grain
Lentil = legume

Yes, you don't need cooked animal protein to function. You should try dropping the eggs over the weekend or when you don't need to be working or doing something. Just let the detox happen, and you'll get over it in a couple of days.

[carolg]

hempseeds:
How are you using the hemp? Salads, salad dressings, crackers, smoothies or? I have about 4 bags in my refrigerator I bought through a coop a year ago. Surely their life span and nutrition has changed but I went "overboard" buying. Thanks.
carolg

[LoriL]

From what I've ready, the best natural source is the acai berry, saw it on Oprah, it has the same protein as an egg and essential omega 6 similar to olive oil, I found it on www.mymonavie.com/midwestmonavie

Good luck,

Lori.

[Halo Aglow]

Technically buckwheat is not a grain. It is a fruit seed related to rhubarb. So if you want to stay away from cereal grains, buckwheat is the way to go! With buckwheat there is no gluten.

[freetarian]

Cool...my nutritional consultant even suggested I might have celiac disease..I dont think I have it, but staying away from gluten is always good...Ill try the buckwheat....


Sharon you really think itll be over in a couple days when I just let the dizziness happen?

I feel I have arrived at the last hill of decision..so far when i had problems with the raw stuff I always made an adjustment and could go on...but now Im stuck...its either I make it or break it....but if I make it then I have really made it.
I have pushed the dizziness and fainting spells in front of me for more than a month....and it just keeps scaring me there in front of me...it started mildly and got worse and worse...Ive always tried to prevent it somehow, but its like Ive grown out of all the solutions Ive applied so far....

[freetarian]

This is from oprahs site about health foods (oprah superfoods (http://www.oprah.com/health/beauty/health_beauty_superfood.jhtml)):

Acai fruit
This little berry is one of the most nutritious and powerful foods in the world. It can often be found in juice form in health food and gourmet stores.

Anything in the "Allium Family"
Garlic, onions, leeks, scallions, chives and shallots can all help the liver eliminate toxins and carcinogens.

Barley
This can be used as a breakfast cereal, in soups and stews, and as a rice substitute. Barley's also high in fiber, helping metabolize fats, cholesterol and carbohydrates.

Green Foods
Green foods like wheat and barley grasses can be bought in powder, tablet or juice form, and offer greater levels of nutrients than green leafy vegetables. They also help cholesterol, blood pressure and immune response.

Buckwheat: Seed & Grain
Buckwheat is loaded with protein, high in amino acid, stabilizes blood sugar and reduces hypertension.

Beans & Lentils
You can reduce cholesterol while beefing up on antioxidants, folic acid and potassium. Try kidney, black, navy, pinto, chickpeas, soybeans, peas and lentils.

Hot Peppers
Both bell and chili peppers contain antioxidants, have twice the Vitamin C as citrus fruit and work as great fat burners.

Nuts & Seeds
You can't go wrong with a handful of nuts a day—walnuts, hazelnuts, almonds, macadamia and pistachio nuts contain Omega 3 fats, which are great for your heart. Raw, unsalted nuts and seeds are best.

Sprouts
Numerous varieties of sprouts are great with any meal. They're a great source of protein and Vitamin C. Try adding them to any dish and your immune system will get a boost.

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Seems like buckwheat might be really for me..Im close to diabetes and stuff...the acai berry sounds good too...I guess I have a lot to experiment with now, lol.