Defried beans in Vitamix

[Pierre]

My Vitamix is on the way. I'm thinking of making something like refried beans by grinding lentils and ice together. What I used to do was mix 100 g of refried bean flakes (or 90 g of beans and 10 g of cornmeal or grits) with 200 ml of hot water (except on Friday nights when I used cold water and left the mixture in the fridge). Should I use 200 g of ice, or should I use less to allow for evaporation of hot water and water in the raw tomatoes which will be part of the salsa?

[rawpriestess]

I'd add less water to start, as you can always add more if you need to.

[Pierre]

I tried this:
100 g lentils
200 ml water
2 Roma tomatoes
1/3 of a pickled jalapeno pepper (it's been lying in the fridge in ACV and water for some weeks)
20 g cilantro
1 Hass avocado
2 inner leek leaves
Soak the lentils overnight. Throw everything in the Vita-Mix and blend till smooth (I had to stop several times and pop the bubble).
The result doesn't taste like refried beans and looks more like hummus. Any ideas?

[greenfeline]

Somewhere on this board there was a recipe for refried beans that had some olives in it... I think Zena created it. Anyways, I had the same problem, but with the sunflower seed "refried beans" recipe- it didn't taste enough like refried beans. Then I remembered that post and added a few olives and pureed... Viola! Strange, but true.

[Pierre]

Well I have some olives, but I'm not sure if I'll have any left by Sunday, and can't order any more until Friday, and then they'll take about two weeks to get here. Oh well. At least the lentils will keep till then.

[asil]

The best recipe I've found, for my taste, that has that refried bean taste and texture, in in Raw Food Real World. It's the filling for the tacos, and it uses soaked sunflower seeds and sundried tomatoes as the base. Of course, I altered the seasonings to suite myself (lots of comino!). I've never managed to make the tacos because I always end up snarfling the filling mix as is. :)

[Pierre]

Hmm, maybe I should try some cumin. Anyway, I figured part of the unpalatability was eating beans without grain, so I cooked some rice (I wasn't going to try to figure out how to uncook rice right after a failure trying to uncook lentils), cooled it to 47, and ate them together.

Should I try adding more tomatoes, or make a separate salsa?

[asil]

Honestly, I think it's the beans themselves that are the problem. I just don't really think they're good raw. Just my opinion. But soaked sunflower seeds have much of the same texture as cooked beans. The soaked, sundried tomatoes add a bit of chewiness. I don't recall the exact recipe offhand, but I think you process seeds, tomatoes, a bit of olive oil, and spices until they make a kind of dough, then deydrate, then break up into lumps and dehydrate again. I've only made it to the first dehydrate -- then I just ate it with some salsa and greens. For spices, I used comino, ancho chile, salt, and cilantro. Yumm!!!