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wyjoz
10-13-2006, 10:28 AM
check this out: http://articles.news.aol.com/business/_a/the-organic-myth/20061006095209990001

eatyourbroccoli
10-13-2006, 11:00 AM
thanks for posting :)

i find it funny that the article mentioned organic fruits and veggies only when describing what other organic products Eastbound Farm offered.

to me, this seems like an article written in an attempt to disencourage consumers from ALL organic products, through the use of only a small amount of applicable evidence.

it is from business week..big business trying to keep a financial hold over the food industry, and therefore over the health industry. big businesses with big bosses that purchased stock in pharmaceutical companies and publically-traded offshoots of dairy farming (milk companies, fertalizer companies, etc.)

i expect to see a lot of this over the next decade or so as the health movement swings into full effect.

:)

Pansy
10-13-2006, 11:40 AM
I have often wondered about running Organic products over the scanners :eek: at grocery stores. You would think they could come up with a different way to process these to get out of the store, if they are so concerned about things being Organic, or maybe not! :(

Pansy ;)

Pierre
10-13-2006, 04:34 PM
The scanner is just a light beam swept with a revolving mirror. It's either red or infrared. Being scanned doesn't affect food any more than being on the shelf for a minute in daylight.

Pansy
10-13-2006, 04:55 PM
Everyone has their belief's and that is okay!

:)

Pierre
10-13-2006, 08:29 PM
I worked several years in the barcode industry. What can a barcode reader do to a vegetable that would infringe its organicness?

I can also explain why the guard bars in the middle of a UPC are not a 6, but that's OT in this forum.

Conscious Midwife
10-13-2006, 08:37 PM
I'm not to hung up on the organic craze since in fact the process used to produce and fertilize soil is NOT VEGAN. I'm not to hung up on the Vegan crazy since everytime I think I've got it down pat I realize that a guy in leather boots wearing jeans made in a NOT so fair trade country carts my organic apples in cardboard boxes that don't get recycled, and that are left stacked up against a wall in the market with a frame report showing a health code of 73. :eek:

I try my best, I buy what's reasonably priced, wash it well, pray and hope for the best.

unbitten
10-14-2006, 12:16 AM
i guess the whole system really needs to be reformed. i mean yes, its good that organic is now more universally available here, but at what cost? that organic label means much less now than it used to. there has to be some way to balance availability with principles. i mean wouldnt it be awesome if everyone in america shopped at the farmer's market, and all the farmers were organic? we can only pray that the desire for organic produce and dairy comtinues to grow enough so that this starts to happen. but i think most americans are used to the convenience of going to the store and getting a carton of pasteurized milk, and pre-packaged salad mixes, etc. so its tough to change the trend to make people want to go to the farmers market all the time. and i mean shit, here in san antonio, the only thing they had at the famers market when we tried to go was watermelon and pineapple! which are awesome, but man cannot live off watermelon alone (as yummy as that would be!)

and the thing i find myself weighing in my head is organic (good for my body) vs. buying organic food from across the world, which means more fossil fuels to transport it, and less nutrition because it was probably picked all unripe so as not to spoil before getting in my belly (bad for the environment.)

i dont know. i dont have any answers here. big business sucks, because money is always first in mind. which destroys the heart of the organic movement, but organic is hip now, so someone has to make a buck off of it.

support local farmers! thats the best i can come up with. :)

wyjoz
10-14-2006, 02:10 AM
i guess the whole system really needs to be reformed. i mean yes, its good that organic is now more universally available here, but at what cost? that organic label means much less now than it used to. there has to be some way to balance availability with principles. i mean wouldnt it be awesome if everyone in america shopped at the farmer's market, and all the farmers were organic? we can only pray that the desire for organic produce and dairy comtinues to grow enough so that this starts to happen. but i think most americans are used to the convenience of going to the store and getting a carton of pasteurized milk, and pre-packaged salad mixes, etc. so its tough to change the trend to make people want to go to the farmers market all the time. and i mean shit, here in san antonio, the only thing they had at the famers market when we tried to go was watermelon and pineapple! which are awesome, but man cannot live off watermelon alone (as yummy as that would be!)

and the thing i find myself weighing in my head is organic (good for my body) vs. buying organic food from across the world, which means more fossil fuels to transport it, and less nutrition because it was probably picked all unripe so as not to spoil before getting in my belly (bad for the environment.)

i dont know. i dont have any answers here. big business sucks, because money is always first in mind. which destroys the heart of the organic movement, but organic is hip now, so someone has to make a buck off of it.

support local farmers! thats the best i can come up with. :)

IT SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY ANSWER; WE MUST SUPPORT LOCAL FARMERS AND GROW AS MUCH OF OUR OWN AS POSSIBLE.

I'M PLANTING SPINACH AND SALAD MESCLUM MIX FOR WINTER. GOT A WINDOW BOX FACING THE SOUTH FOR WINTER AND PLAN TO PLAY WITH IT THIS WINTER. SEE HOW IT GOES. NEXT WINTER WILL TRY TOMATOES AND SEE HOW THAT GOES.

OTHERWISE; IM SUPPORTING LOCAL GROWERS AT ALL COSTS. THE BIG GUYS CAN GET THEIR STUFF FROM INDIA AND CHILE! The produce/fruits that are picked green don't and won't serve us right. So many times I purchased peaches from chile in winter months here only to have them thrown out to my compost pile. So no more! Will eat what's available locally and stay healthy and pH alkalined. Will not buy anything in a box, can, plastic, or frozen !!!! Joz