Tell me what to substitute my distilled water with.

[Goldsplinter]

I've been drinking distilled water for about a year, and it sounds like time for a change. Read that it's acidic and blah blah blah http://chetday.com/distilledwater.htm

I usually buy gallons of this water, so i'm thinking, any other kind of water that's not distilled is better. So if theres a very good source of water, that's easily bought at a grocery store or wal-mart or something similar, please state what it is, as, I... only like drinking/eating the best stuff :)

[eatyourbroccoli]

one of my moms friends did his master's thesis on how terrible bottled water is and how much bacteria grows in it between the time its packaged and consumed bc of the small amount of air left in the top between the water and the bottle cap.

...not that i dont drink bottled water sometimes when its convenient.

but yea. maybe not bottled water? what about a filter to put on your tap water?

[luckitri]

no quick answers for you but i wish to thank you for the link. someone told me about the body demineralization that comes with distilled water and the effect on the heart and now I see it in writing. i suspect that alot of bottled water is merely distilled from another source. we have bought something called O Premium Waters that delivers to our house and they have an extensive purification process. it does not taste bad but i don't know how healthy it is. i am interested in living waters....but of course do not want the bad bacteria.

Montezuma's Well . . . a park in AZ. It is a meteor crater that has a spring of water coming up through it. There are caves around the base that people used to live in - well they are more like crawl-spaces although much pottery was found in there. Research has shown that this water contains microscopic life forms that are not found anywhere else on earth. Since ancient times tribes have come from afar for the water - from other countries they come for this water for their ceremonies! How, in ancient times, did they know that this microscopic life is in it? What effect does it have on them?

[alex]

I've been drinking little but distilled water for about five years. Ideally one would distill it onesself.

I do this because it is (suppose to be) pure water - no impurities, no bacteria (in significant numbers - most of the distilled water I have seen is ozonized).

Bottled water can not be trusted (see article below).

Filtered tap water does not remove many of the contaminants including chemotherapy drugs and other prescription drugs which have begun to show up in our water suppy.

No one has been adequately able to explain to me why distilled water would demineralize my body. If my body were a passive system, then that would make sense, but our bodies are active systems which extract the nutrients from food and water, not the other way around.

I do usually add some lemon or lime juice to my water, first to improve the taste, also to remineralize (just in case) and to help alkalize the body (even though lemon and lime is acidic, it is alkalizing in the body - apparently)



The Many Ways the Government Protects the Business of Bottled Water

The bottled water industry currently has annual sales amounting to over $35 billion worldwide, and is the fastest-growing segment of the beverage industry.

Bottled water is often perceived as safer than tap water. But in fact, tap water often adheres to stricter purity standards than bottled water, and 40 percent of bottled water actually begins as tap water in any case.

In one study, a third of more than 100 bottled water brands tested for contaminants were found to contain chemicals such as arsenic and carcinogenic compounds, at levels exceeding state or industry standards.

Gaps in the Regulations

Although the EPA regulates public water supplies, most bottled water is overseen by the FDA, which is allowed to apply EPA's water regulations selectively. Gaps in the regulations could allow careless or unscrupulous bottlers to market unsafe products.

For example, the FDA imposes no specific requirements regarding proximity of bottled water sources to industrial facilities or waste dumps. One brand of "spring water" was at one point actually taken from a contaminated well in the parking lot of an industrial facility.

The FDA also has no official procedure for shutting down bottled water sources if they become contaminated. And while EPA rules specify that there can be no E. coli or fecal coliform bacteria in tap water, the FDA simply sets a maximum allowable level for the bacteria in bottled water. Products such as flavored, carbonated, soda, and seltzer water have even looser standards.

State Standards

Bottled water that does not cross state lines is not even regulated by the FDA, but is subject only to state standards, which vary widely. Forty-three states have one or no government personnel overseeing bottled water regulation. Many states require disinfection, which is sometimes done with chemicals that are potentially hazardous themselves, such as chlorine and ozone gas.

Dr. Mercola's Comment:

The means that the bottled water companies used to become the fastest growing segment of the packaged drinks industry is the same one the drug companies have used: lax governmental regulations that allow them to play a high-stakes poker game with your health. Even when bottled water is "disinfected," it's typically done with chlorine, itself a toxic substance.
Drinking enough pure water is vital to your health. But much of the water available to you, both tap water and bottled water, is tainted with chemicals like chlorine and fluoride.

The filtering process used on bottled water does not remove fluoride, a bone poison that you should avoid at all costs. If you want to know more, I recommend that you read The Fluoride Deception, or review the links in What Your Dentist Isn't Telling You About Fluoride.

Bottled water is also creating an enormous strain on the environment. Not only is it transported over long distances, but enormous amounts of energy are used to created the bottles that store the billions of gallons of bottled water being consumed worldwide.

It's best to use water from your own well or municipal water supply, which you can filter with a reverse osmosis filter to remove the dangerous contaminants.

Here is some info on reverse osmosis:

What is a reverse-osmosis water filter?

A complete reverse-osmosis filter system is an under-the-sink obstacle course, stopping nearly every contaminant that tries to take a ride up your cold-water line. Models vary somewhat, but most units force water first through a flashlight-size "prefilter" that strains out sediment and then through a cellophanelike membrane that screens out even smaller pollutants. Before reaching a special faucet mounted on your sink, the now-clean water gets one last scrubbing from a carbon filter that removes any lingering chemicals picked up along the way.

Who is it best for?

Reverse-osmosis filtering is a good choice if you're concerned about a wide range of contaminants — especially chemicals and heavy metals like lead — and want the convenience and extra ressurance of drawing triple-filtered water directly from the tap.

What does it remove?

A complete system, including a prefilter and a postfilter, strips out lead, copper, arsenic, cadmium, chlorine, giardia, pesticides, salt, trihalomethanes, sulfates, cysts, and nitrates.

The reverse-osmosis membrane can also screen out at least some bacteria and viruses. But because it may contain tiny imperfections that allow a few microbes to slip through, you shouldn't use the filter for protection against these critters.

What are its pros and cons?

A reverse-osmosis system offers these advantages: It creates a three-tiered barrier that few contaminants can penetrate, and it uses no electricity. Its main disadvantage is that it wastes two to four gallons of tap water for every gallon that gets filtered. The less reject water it generates, the shorter the life span of the membrane will be, because reject water helps keep the membrane clean.

How hard is it to install?

Unless you're a do-it-yourselfer and like to spend two hours at a time with your head under the sink, call a plumber.

How much does it cost?


Prices start at well under $200 for the system itself. Also, every two to three years you'll need to replace the membrane. The cost of filtered water is around 7 cents per gallon.


Hope this is helpful


alex

[Conscious Midwife]

Boil your water and move on :)

[Ireland]

Okay, I'll order another one - that'll make it three for me. :) (instead of the two I'd spoken for)

I'd order TONS more if I could financially do it....but three's my limit for now.

[LightLover]

Is it really enough to boil your water in order to destill?

And why do people buy distilled water if they can, very simple, make their
own. Am I missing something..?

LL

[sport]

I was listening to a radio interview with David Wolfe recently and he stated that they have been adding something sinister to the water in the US since the time of the first Bush presidency and they now realise what a mistake it was but can not take it back out.
He states that at this stage it is in the water table so even private wells have been effected and that distilled is the only way to go.
I have a home distiller and drink distilled water.

[LightLover]

I was listening to a radio interview with David Wolfe recently and he stated that they have been adding something sinister to the water in the US since the time of the first Bush presidency and they now realise what a mistake it was but can not take it back out.
He states that at this stage it is in the water table so even private wells have been effected and that distilled is the only way to go.
I have a home distiller and drink distilled water.

* Sport is a home distiller more effective than cooking your water, or is it only needed if you want to spare time?

LL

[Goldsplinter]

http://fashiontribes.typepad.com/main/2005/06/untitled_podcas_5.html

If anything, seems that adding some lemon would alkanize the water or body. :)

[sport]

* Sport is a home distiller more effective than cooking your water, or is it only needed if you want to spare time?

LL
If you boil your water then you are killing the bugs but it has no effect on the other particles and the metals and such things. All of that is still in there and they are worse than the bugs.
When you distill, the steam rises and is condensed back down so all you get is water.

[LightLover]

thanks sport

ll

[Goldsplinter]

...and I dumped a gallon of distilled water down the drain and told my mom to stop buying it.

I might just tell her to keep buying it, but making sure that ALL my gallons have lemon juice in it........

[LightLover]

...and I dumped a gallon of distilled water down the drain and told my mom to stop buying it.

I might just tell her to keep buying it, but making sure that ALL my gallons have lemon juice in it........

---
Gabriel Cousins and Brian Clement advise and use distilled water, but they
revitalise it, but I don't know exactly how, anyone knows?
---
LL

[sport]

---
Gabriel Cousins and Brian Clement advise and use distilled water, but they
revitalise it, but I don't know exactly how, anyone knows?
---
LL
They may be using magnets or letting it sit on a sunny window for a while.
Another thing to do (recomended by The Sproutman) is add a few grains of brown rice or wheat berries to the container after it is distilled. This puts some minerals back in to the water.

[LightLover]

They may be using magnets or letting it sit on a sunny window for a while.
Another thing to do (recomended by The Sproutman) is add a few grains of brown rice or wheat berries to the container after it is distilled. This puts some minerals back in to the water.

--
They told something a little complicated, but I didn't write down
--
LL

[lodestar]

oh for pete's sake...no US president has messed with the water.

now for making distilled water regain some composition David Wolfe did say to add some lemon, sit the water in sunlight, add a sprig of mint...or just about anything else organic.

[DavidZaneMason]

Option / opinion:

-Most fruit is very high in water content.

-David Mason

[luckitri]

Well distilled water is good for the steam iron but I would like to revitalise my water so if anyone knows how that is done I also hope you share.

[eatyourbroccoli]

I was listening to a radio interview with David Wolfe recently and he stated that they have been adding something sinister to the water in the US since the time of the first Bush presidency and they now realise what a mistake it was but can not take it back outi think a lot has gone wrong since the first bush presidency :p hehe

personally..i think that if a type of food is endorsed by a large corporation like coca-cola or mcdonalds, it ISNT going to be healthy. period. coca-cola and pepsi both own bottled water companies, so thats justification enough for me.

that said.. if tap water isnt safe, and bottled water isnt safe, is the only option reverse osmosis machine? and are there ones that you dont have to attach beneath the sink? for those of us who rent?

and wait..you can buy distilled water? but then doesnt it come in water bottles and that whole bottled-water is bad thing starts over?

im sorry..im just really confused about this and i tried reading the thread over a few times and somethings just not clicking tonight.

:confused:

thanks guys

[RawNut]

How about getting your water from a filtered water machine. It usually costs about 30 cents a gallon but you have to bring your own jug. Then there shouldn't be enough time for anything to grow in it.

Craig

[eatyourbroccoli]

oh cool. i didnt even think of that. great idea :)

[misslinda]

Just be aware of those machines and inquire about their service schedule b/c the HFS here, I watched th service guy basically "rag" it and called it clean--I mean he hardly did anything to it....I was so disgusted. By all means, great source and is economical, just make sure they are up keeping it.

Here is one method

http://www.care2.com/channels/solutions/bms/2343

Dr Emoto is one of my favorite water pioneers as well. He has great insight to the subject of water.


Forgot, I'm partial to PENTA water
:)

[luckitri]

It is filtered tap water and I have heard stories of how filthy the insides of the machines are.

Thank you for the link misslinda! I suppose that people who live in areas where the moon never shines for the pollution (or so they tell me) won't get to try this. I am wondering what kind of container he puts it in....probably glass (?)

[misslinda]

It is filtered tap water and I have heard stories of how filthy the insides of the machines are.

Thank you for the link misslinda! I suppose that people who live in areas where the moon never shines for the pollution (or so they tell me) won't get to try this. I am wondering what kind of container he puts it in....probably glass (?)


Hmmm, where do you live Luckitri? Personally, I think glass would be more ideal than plastic. Couple reasons: dioxin is in plastic and is toxic and glass absorbs light better.

:)

[alex]

Glass is unquestionably better than plastic, but of course there is the breakage problem.

Each plastic container has a little triangle with a number inside somewhere on the container. According to a number of sources if the numbers are: 2, 4 or 5, then the container is safe (to the best of our knowledge to date).

There are two safe waters: reverse osmosis and distilled. During my previous career as a scientist, the only water we ever used in any kind of experiments was distilled - pure water. And if we wanted to be absolutely sure of purity (100%) then we would use double distilled.

I have no experience with reverse osmosis, but apparently it is almost as good.

To re-mineralize the distilled water add some lemon or lime juice to it.


alex

[sport]

oh for pete's sake...no US president has messed with the water.

.
Of course he did. He went out himself and added all that stuff in to every well in the country except the ones in Texas.

[LightLover]

Of course he did. He went out himself and added all that stuff in to every well in the country except the ones in Texas.

* Of course he didn't. But he is stupid enough ti could have done it
LL

[Shmoopie]

I didn't read all of the posts on this cuz it's just a lonnnnng thread, but as far as distilled water goes, if someone hasn't said it already, you can charge it by setting the whole gallon out in the sun for an hour. That will stop demineralization.

Someone asked why it demineralizes, and the reason is that the water is a living thing, and it wants nutrients. When you put it in your body (or you cook with it) it steals your nutrients to recharge itself. Or in the instance of cooking with it, it'll take nutrients from your food. I don't know whether that's all true or not, but it's how the theory goes anyway. So like I said, setting the gallon in the sun for an hour will recharge the water. Aside from that, you can buy a liquid multimineral supplement, and follow directions for how much to put into a gallon of water. No biggie.

I would think it's much better to drink distilled - a water that's been totally purified and is free of bacteria and chemicals - that you can simply add to or charge in the sun for free, than to drink water that isn't pure, and has bad things in it that you can't take out.

[Shmoopie]

Ok now I did read this whole thread and I have a question :p

Where does one get distilled water in glass bottles? I know glass is better, but I've never seen glass jugs anywhere. In one healthfood store around here, I saw a lady buy what looked like water in a huge jug, but she paid like $50 for it, so I assume that that's not what it was lol and if it was, I'm not paying that for water :eek:

So...anybody know where to get distilled water in glass jugs?

[Acai]

Revers Osmosis is the best. You can refill a upto a five gallon tank at wal mart.

[sport]

Revers Osmosis is the best. You can refill a upto a five gallon tank at wal mart.
My understanding is that for every gallon produced about 5 gallons are wasted so this is not good for the enviorenment.
Am I wrong

[Goldsplinter]

My understanding is that for every gallon produced about 5 gallons are wasted so this is not good for the enviorenment.
Am I wrong
...

"hey scott, how about we drink the 5 gallons that was wasted instead..."

....cmon

[lodestar]

thanks for a good chuckle :) ya'll

[luckitri]

The 5 wasted gallons go right back into the public water supply possibly in better condition.

Whats the joke?

[sport]

The 5 wasted gallons go right back into the public water supply possibly in better condition.

Whats the joke?
The 5 gallons wasted go in to the sewer. The water supply is a one way system and you can not put anything in to it.

[LightLover]

The 5 gallons wasted go in to the sewer. The water supply is a one way system and you can not put anything in to it.


* Every positive point in the world , also the raw food world, seems to have a negative opposite.

I think the best is to look at the larger picture: reverse osmoses/distilled water is better than "sad-water" even if you accrue the waterloss, just like like blending, with the negative fact of oxidizing, is better than not blending at all, saying that getting in much more gramms of greens and more foods in the same time (many nutrients eaten at the same time will
work together much stronger than eaten solo)is better than the opposite (chewing less foods and less gramms). You always pay I price, the art is to pay as aless as possible

ll