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LightLover
10-09-2006, 02:27 PM
LL :)
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This historic summit was held at the Hippocrates Health Institute in West Palm Beach Florida on January 14, 2006. The summit convened to unify the leadership in the Living Food Movement, establishing scientifically based common standards for optimum health.Leaders from eight countries (with a combined total of 411 years following this lifestyle) agreed on the following standards:(Compiled and Organized by Jameth Sheridan, N.D.)The Optimum Diet for Health/Longevity:• Vegan (no animal products of any kind, cooked or raw)• Organic• Whole Foods• High in nutrition such as vitamins, antioxidants and phytonutrients• Highly mineralized• Contains a significant quantity of chlorophyll-rich green foods• Contains adequate complete protein from plant sources• Contains a large proportion of high-water content foods• Provides excellent hydration• Includes raw vegetable juices• Contains all essential fatty acids, including Omega 3 fatty acids from naturally occurring plant sources• Is at least 80% raw (the remaining to be Vegan, whole food,and organic)• Has moderate, yet adequate caloric intake• Contains only low to moderate sugar and exclusively from whole food sources (fruitarianism is strongly discouraged)• Is nutritionally optimal for both detoxification and rebuildingWe also agree that:• Supplementation with Vitamin B-12 is advised.• The addition of enzyme active superfoods and whole food supplements is also advised.• This way of eating can be further optimized by tailoring it based on individual needs(within the principles stated).• Benefits derived by following these principles are proportional to how well they are followed.INTERNATIONAL LIVING FOOD SUMMITVibrantHealtHtHrougHPlant-basednutritionPage 1 of 2
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• We will remain open-minded, and this information will be updated and expanded upon, if necessary, as new research becomes available.• Diet is a critical piece of a healthy lifestyle, yet not the entire picture. A full spectrum, health supportive lifestyle is encouraged. This includes physical exercise, exposure to sunshine, as well as psychological health. Avoiding environmental toxins and toxic products is essential. Paramount is pure water (for consumption and bathing), the use of natural fiber clothing, and non-toxic personal care products. Also consider healthy options in home furnishings/building materials and related items.All leaders agree that the main objective of eating in the above mentioned fashion is to promote health, and equally to prevent and minimize disease.The following leaders support these principles:(listed in alphabetical order)Solveig Almqvist – Secretary of the Enzyme Swedish Living Foods association - SwedenTommy Axelsson – Secretary of the Enzyme Swedish Living Foods association - Sweden Fred Bischi, PhD – USATamera Campbell – Vision - USARajaa Chbani – Pharmacie L’Unite - MoroccoGabriel Cousens, MD, MD(H) – Diplomat American Board of Holistic Medicine - USABrenda Cobb – Living Foods Institute - USAAnna Maria Clement, CN, NMD, PhD – Hippocrates Health Institute - USABrian Clement, CN, NMD, PhD – Hippocrates Health Institute - USACarole Dougoud – Institute Haute Vitalite - SwitzerlandKare Engstrom – Dietician - SwedenViktoras Kulvinskas – “Grandfather” of the Living Foods Movement - USAMarie Christine Lhermitte – Chemin du mas Magnuel - FranceGeorge Malkmus – Hallelujah Acres - USARhonda Malkmus – Hallelujah Acres - USAPaul Nison – The Raw Life - USAClaudine Richard – Naturopath - FranceMichael Saiber – Vision - USAJameth Sheridan, ND – HealthForce Nutritionals - USADiana Store – Raw Superfoods – UK/The NetherlandsJill Swyers – Living Foods For Health – UK/PortugalWalter J. Urban, PhD – USA - Costa RicaPage 2 of 2
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Pansy
10-09-2006, 02:51 PM
Interesting Article!
Thanks for sharing, LL!
Warm Blessings,
Pansy :)
LightLover
10-09-2006, 03:00 PM
Interesting Article!
Thanks for sharing, LL!
Warm Blessings,
Pansy :)
Pansy, I can't remember having put some smilies ( :( :( ) in the article. :confused:
Must have been done without knowing...
LL
sport
10-09-2006, 03:09 PM
I was going to post that they had failed to mention the items that we should leave out of our diet such as salt but I guess the fact that we should just be having whole foods covers a multitude.
sport
10-09-2006, 03:11 PM
Where did you get this article and is there any more related info. I would like to know more.
luckitri
10-09-2006, 03:40 PM
Why do I never hear of anything like this on radio, TV, or newpaper news? Very important! Thankyou!
LightLover
10-09-2006, 03:56 PM
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Where did you get this article and is there any more related info. I would like to know more.
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~ It is in the newest magazine of Hippocrates institite
or:
www.treeoflife.nu/dl/livingfoodsummitstatement.pdf ---
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~ I am also happy with the definition of whole foods (for example: many vitamins of "Solgar" are made of petroleum, I guess not a whole food)
But they also have herbextracts and maybe these are better. Or not.
but: what is a whole food? Where is the limit: are bee pollen?
And if they are being sold uncooled and become rancid?
And also important is how the product is offered. Which products have to be offered cooled, and which not?
Is an extract a whole food? Because to get the belonged/required effects of a whole food, manytimes an extract is offered, and not the whole food.
Is this mentioned on the packaging? Which criteria have to be mentioned
on the packaging?
If this is being worked out, maybe a certain "label" is possible.
Less than being 100% clear is not allowed
But there is hope: Brian clement is working on a kind of "whole food criteria/bible/law", i hope it will be extensive, forgot to ask more about this.
And than everyone has alt least references and knows where he is standing.
He is also doing this to be able to go in court against industries, which
are the reason that you are not allowed to say that natural product can heal.
At least we will have a book, every faith needs a kind of bible.
The world will turn a lot easier, because we will feel no longer the need to push her anymore... :)
LL
Pierre
10-09-2006, 04:49 PM
Pansy, I can't remember having put some smilies ( :( :( ) in the article. :confused:
Must have been done without knowing...
LL
The smileys are accidental. The article has a colon immediately followed by a left banana. This happens to be the code for a sad face. If you edit it and insert a space between them, or an empty tag, it won't be a smiley anymore. Look at the following (hit the quote button and the code will come up):
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Brianna
10-09-2006, 05:46 PM
I was there! I work at HIppocrates and I helped with the summit. There's going to be another one in April. I think it's going to be a yearly thing.
LightLover
10-10-2006, 06:52 AM
Hi Brianna, how do you look like? Maybe I did see you..
You mean they are returning in Amsterdam in April? Together?
Would be great.
Am I correct that Brian Clement is working on the book I mentioned about supplementstandards/rules? Would be good news.
Thanks for the wonderfull time and hope you will be back :p
LL
Pansy
10-10-2006, 07:02 AM
LL,
The universe works in strange ways sometimes!
;)
LightLover: This is absolutely critical information!!!
I hope you don't mind, but I have tried to make it a little easier to read below:
International Living Foods Summit
This historic summit was held at the Hippocrates Health Institute in West Palm Beach Florida on January 14, 2006. The summit convened to unify the leadership in the Living Food Movement, establishing scientifically based common standards for optimum health. Leaders from eight countries (with a combined total of 411 years following this lifestyle) agreed on the following standards: Compiled and Organized by Jameth Sheridan, N.D.
The Optimum Diet for Health/Longevity:
Vegan (no animal products of any kind, cooked or raw)
Organic
Whole Foods
High in nutrition such as vitamins, antioxidants and phytonutrients
Highly mineralized
Contains a significant quantity of chlorophyll-rich green foods
Contains adequate complete protein from plant sources
Contains a large proportion of high-water content foods
Provides excellent hydration
Includes raw vegetable juices
Contains all essential fatty acids, including Omega 3 fatty acids from naturally occurring plant sources
Is at least 80% raw (the remaining to be Vegan, whole food, and organic)
Has moderate, yet adequate caloric intake
Contains only low to moderate sugar and exclusively from whole food sources (fruitarianism is strongly discouraged)
Is nutritionally optimal for both detoxification and rebuilding
We also agree that:
Supplementation with Vitamin B-12 is advised.
The addition of enzyme active superfoods and whole food supplements is also advised.
This way of eating can be further optimized by tailoring it based on individual needs (within the principles stated).
Benefits derived by following these principles are proportional to how well they are followed.
We will remain open-minded, and this information will be updated and expanded upon, if necessary, as new research becomes available.
Diet is a critical piece of a healthy lifestyle, yet not the entire picture. A full spectrum, health supportive lifestyle is encouraged. This includes physical exercise, exposure to sunshine, as well as psychological health. Avoiding environmental toxins and toxic products is essential. Paramount is pure water (for consumption and bathing), the use of natural fiber clothing, and non-toxic personal care products. Also consider healthy options in home furnishings/building materials and related items.
All leaders agree that the main objective of eating in the above mentioned fashion is to promote health, and equally to prevent and minimize disease.
The following leaders support these principles (listed in alphabetical order)
Solveig Almqvist – Secretary of the Enzyme Swedish Living Foods association - Sweden
Tommy Axelsson – Secretary of the Enzyme Swedish Living Foods association - Sweden
Fred Bischi, PhD – USA
Tamera Campbell – Vision - USA
Rajaa Chbani – Pharmacie L’Unite - Morocco
Gabriel Cousens, MD, MD(H) – Diplomat American Board of Holistic Medicine - USA
Brenda Cobb – Living Foods Institute - USA
Anna Maria Clement, CN, NMD, PhD – Hippocrates Health Institute - USA
Brian Clement, CN, NMD, PhD – Hippocrates Health Institute - USA
Carole Dougoud – Institute Haute Vitalite - Switzerland
Kare Engstrom – Dietician - SwedenViktoras Kulvinskas – “Grandfather” of the Living Foods Movement - USA
Marie Christine Lhermitte – Chemin du mas Magnuel - France
George Malkmus – Hallelujah Acres - USA
Rhonda Malkmus – Hallelujah Acres - USA
Paul Nison – The Raw Life - USA
Claudine Richard – Naturopath - France
Michael Saiber – Vision - USA
Jameth Sheridan, ND – HealthForce Nutritionals - USA
Diana Store – Raw Superfoods – UK/The Netherlands
Jill Swyers – Living Foods For Health – UK/Portugal
Walter J. Urban, PhD – USA - Costa Rica
Alex
LightLover
10-10-2006, 10:06 AM
Hi Alex, I asked Gabriel about the algae (Dr young says these are acid)
and he says there is no proof for that.
I think only the sugarpart of dr young makes sense.
In 2 weeks Paul Nison is coming to Amsterdam (see list of the conference)
so maybe you also have some important questions left?
ll
LightLover:
Even according to Dr Young - we need some acid forming foods in our diet.
After reading the excellent online book on chlorella and spirulina:
http://www.chlorellafactor.com/
and a number of other sources, I have started taking these.
I also like the lecture by Paul Nison:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=221362955412797330&q=raw+food&hl=en
I like a lot of Dr Young's work because he backs his diet and lifestyle up with hard evidence:
urine and saliva pH
blood examinations
which are definitely lacking in many other researchers. I noticed that you started a thread about the saliva pH of 80/10/10 the other day. I would have to check, but I don't think you got much of a response.
I am patiently waiting for Dr Graham's book to come out to see if he has any hard evidence for his 80/10/10 diet.
There are studies out there that back up just about every theory ever thought of, so if one picks the studies with care every theory can be supported.
I have been studying human health for four years - nutrition for the last two years very extensively. From the thousands of artilces, books and hours spent, I agree with the Hippocrates summit conclusions. For me, sugar is bad for the body no matter what form it comes in - the white crystals on the table of every restaurant or inside an orange or other high sugar fruit.
Just my opinion though.
If I think of anything to ask Paul Nison I will let you know - thanks for asking!!
Take the best care
alex
D'vorah
10-10-2006, 12:45 PM
I can't say from my vantage point that I think this is a good idea, yet.
There are too many different lines of thinking among the raw food "gurus" and too many places where they radically diverge from one another. High fat, low fat; super foods and suppliments, NO suppliments at all; grain-inclusive, no grain. . .etc, etc, etc. I think when you narrow it all down to common denominators there aren't enough commonalities to create balance with the arguments that exist between the "gurus." Additionally, I've seen unity movements wind up doing little more than create an attempt to manage the followers.
I don't think we need unification, I think we need hard and fast research; people with the knowledge, drive and skill to pull of long-term research of the type by Drs. T. Colin Campbell, Dr. Dean Ornish, Dr. John McDougall in the cooked vegan realm. That's the one thing that keeps the raw food movement from solid credibility, is lack of viable, reliable, consumable research. By and large, what we have to offer is anecdotal in nature, which is enough for me, but not enough for the world.
In my opinion, all of the energy being poured into a meeting of this nature is cart before horse thinking, when there is no definitive research to support any singular, particular application of raw.
At this stage of the game, not all leaders in the movement agree on many things. One stated objective: “Includes raw vegetable juices.” Not all “gurus” will agree to juicing and the removal of fiber. Obviously this panel did, but they can’t speak for all in the raw movement.
“Contains only low to moderate sugar and exclusively from whole food sources (fruitarianism is strongly discouraged)” – many in the community will not accept this guideline. Graham, Boutenko and Patenaude aren’t fruitarians, but they suggest a diet strong in fruit. The impact of fruit on the diet is very different in a high fat vs. a low fat application of the diet.
“The addition of enzyme active superfoods and whole food supplements is also advised.” – there are those in the raw food movement who are thriving on a whole-foods supplement-free diet. Some in the movement advocate superfoods and supplements and some do not, instead, advocating diet alone used along side other factors of healthy living.
Additionally, some of the language is vague. “Adequate protein from plant sources” is nice, but what does that really MEAN? It’s not clearly stated.
“Contains a large portion of high-water content foods,” again, vague, not well defined. A great concept, but how do we apply that and teach it to our friends and families? How large is a large portion? 50%? 70%?
“Has moderate, yet adequate caloric intake” – define moderate, and adequate for whom, under what conditions?
Unity meetings of this nature make me uncomfortable on several levels. We need research and until research is in place we, as a community, need to accept one another in our varied approaches to raw. Some on this message board want more fat than others. Great. Some want grains, fine. Some include superfoods. Wonderful. I'm not like all of you, and all of you are not like me in approach to what is already a difficult lifestyle to sustain. A unity movement of this nature can actually devide more than unify, as it singles out those not in compliance with the chosen guidelines of the "panel of experts." I would not be accepted within that panel on several points that to me are significant. And that is not unifying, that is dividing.
Additionally, the choice of location was hardly impartial, IMO.
Just my two cents.
Gosia
10-10-2006, 04:16 PM
Good points, D'vorah. I see the above event, contrary to its pledge, as uniting only a fraction of the leaders in the raw food movement, specifically, those who agree on the ideas summarized in it. It is appropriate for me to mention that there has been another Summit (which is still happening, see the link below), which offers an alternative perspective on the raw food diet to the one suggested above. All fruit lovers are warmly invited! :D
Gosia
Conscious Midwife
10-10-2006, 04:23 PM
Hmmm
I wasn't invited....
;)
LightLover
10-11-2006, 07:00 AM
D'vorah, I agree warmly with a lot of your statements, but it doesn't matter which group will put there points on paper, objections like yours will always be possible, also when high fruitarians, fatlovers etc.. sum up there toughts. (points are to short, or are to long , are vague, and go on..)
There will be always space between our lines, we will never end up explaining, describing. This is meant as a summing up, not as a book. And nobody says that the purpose to unify includes also the purpose to divide from other groups. Starting from different points of view we can grow to eachother, but only if the differences will be made clear.
Nobody denies there will be different approaches, nobody will be excluded, it's just that only when you put a certain approach on paper, all different directions will be visible, and a basis for research is stated. You can't include all directions in the beginning, you have to start somewhere and hope
you will end up with including, nor is there a possibility to research everything at the same time. Nothing is worse than stating nothing and doing research based on no direction at all.
And you need groups to fund/organize research.
Science needs organization built on statements, also in the rawfood world.
The most important is that you stay open-minded to all knowledge of the other directions. (Well, I certainly do..). And a honoust fight between the directions. At least this group is beginning to make itself vulnerable
with points they will be attacked on, and that has my sympathy, others
earn money with solostatements which are highly vague
I don't think we need the dense unity of the "SAD world", but
a beginning is needed to attract people, when someone thinks it can be done better, make a start, that is the way we will progress.
And if there is another summit with alternative perspective that is great, together we will see everything, and learn from eachother. :)
LL
D'vorah
10-11-2006, 10:09 AM
Nobody denies there will be different approaches, nobody will be excluded, it's just that only when you put a certain approach on paper, all different directions will be visible, and a basis for research is stated. LL
That's not at all how this treatise reads, though; it IS exclusive, and as this group continues to meet to represent the all of us, I would only expect that exclusivity to become further defined.
In a perfect world, what you describe is how it might be, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. I want that acceptance for all that you describe, it's a good thing. But it's not what this paper is about.
Deborah
LightLover
10-11-2006, 12:00 PM
Agree..Agree
But the world is not perfect..yet..
I wonder if such a "non-excluding paper" like you are longing for exists at all
in this world.
(which says nothing about the qualities of your arguments).
The most important is that this group , and every group, keeps "open-minded" and give alternatives a honest chance.
As this is very difficult for most people, the chances are not that high.
LL
D'vorah
10-11-2006, 02:53 PM
Agree..Agree
But the world is not perfect..yet..
I wonder if such a "non-excluding paper" like you are longing for exists at all
in this world.
(which says nothing about the qualities of your arguments).
The most important is that this group , and every group, keeps "open-minded" and give alternatives a honest chance.
As this is very difficult for most people, the chances are not that high.
LL
No, such a paper doesn't exist at this stage, I don't think. But this message board comes close to being a living example of what could be. :-)
Thanks for your thoughts.
Deborah
LightLover
10-11-2006, 03:09 PM
No, such a paper doesn't exist at this stage, I don't think. But this message board comes close to being a living example of what could be. :-)
Thanks for your thoughts.
Deborah
So true. People leave so much space on this board for other toughts. :)
They have learned this, because they have re-adjust their believes many times based on new experiences and information,and know this will go on and on, and also have the value of different approaches (sad and non-sad)
LL
Lay-Lay
10-11-2006, 03:12 PM
sniff....sniff....:/
Brianna
10-11-2006, 05:50 PM
Others who do not agree with those who attended the summit,were invited. Dr Graham and Roz were invited but they were unable to attend. Maybe they will be able to make it in April. There were also many others invited who were not able to make it.
LightLover
10-12-2006, 04:22 AM
Others who do not agree with those who attended the summit,were invited. Dr Graham and Roz were invited but they were unable to attend. Maybe they will be able to make it in April. There were also many others invited who were not able to make it.
* Maybe it has use to add this essential info to the protocol itself (as a statement that also people which don't agree have been invited and will always be invited in the future).
* When done, people will no longer look to the protocol as a paper
that has the possibiity of excluding others. :)
LL
I view this as an important first step in trying to find the truth.
As they themselves state: they will continue to be openminded and will modify the information as new evidence becomes available.
I would be more concerned with us RAW vs the cooked SADers then the differences in the RAW comunity.
alex
Brianna
10-14-2006, 08:44 AM
* Maybe it has use to add this essential info to the protocol itself (as a statement that also people which don't agree have been invited and will always be invited in the future).
* When done, people will no longer look to the protocol as a paper
that has the possibiity of excluding others. :)
LL
That's a good idea.
carolg
10-14-2006, 09:49 AM
Brianna,
What do you do at Hippocrates? Met Brian last year in NY, got the fabulous magazine, but never got another one. Going to call and see if I need to again be put on a list. I have never been there, but surely would love to when in Pembrooke Pines for the drive. I was hoping Paul Nison and I would get together when I was in Fla. about 3 years ago but didn't happen. I have helped host/promote him in CO where I am.
carolg
LightLover
10-14-2006, 03:23 PM
Brianna,
What do you do at Hippocrates? Met Brian last year in NY, got the fabulous magazine, but never got another one. Going to call and see if I need to again be put on a list. I have never been there, but surely would love to when in Pembrooke Pines for the drive. I was hoping Paul Nison and I would get together when I was in Fla. about 3 years ago but didn't happen. I have helped host/promote him in CO where I am.
carolg
Carolg, I will see Paul Nison in Amsterdam next week..
If you have an important questions for him , or if anybody else has, I can
pass this question to him I hope..
LL
Lightlover:
Ask Paul if he would kindly tell you everything he eats on a typical day??
Thanks
alex
LightLover
10-15-2006, 12:08 PM
Lightlover:
Ask Paul if he would kindly tell you everything he eats on a typical day??
Thanks
alex
Good idea: and also what his opinion is about so called "natural vitamins"
(see my thread; there origin is synthetic..) ;
further if a book can me made
based on the gathering/protocol that has been formed (see other thread);
what his opinion is about blending (I think that what you loose by oxidizing is much less than what you winn by the fact that you can get in 20 foods at one time. Many nutrients strenghten eachother forces when combined)
Maybe some questions about Dr Young. etc...
LL
I know Paul is very much in favour of blending.
He talks about it a little in this video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=221362955412797330&q=raw+food&hl=en
alex
LightLover
10-16-2006, 07:39 AM
I know Paul is very much in favour of blending.
He talks about it a little in this video:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=221362955412797330&q=raw+food&hl=en
alex
By the way: Alex, do you receive the newsletters of
www.phmiracleliving.com?
(from Dr Young)
LL
Yes I receive the pH newsletter - there have been a lot lately. I skim through them - most are all the same - problem is acid, stay away from suger!
His 'Strongest Dad in the World' one was superb!! What a great story!!
alex
LightLover
10-16-2006, 02:30 PM
Alex, this could be something for you, or I think you are already there..?
http://www.energiseforlife.com/phpbb2
LL
Thanks - I will check it out!!
alex
LightLover
10-17-2006, 01:06 PM
Thanks - I will check it out!!
alex
Look out! there is already an Alex active there! :D
ll
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