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JEN
10-03-2006, 03:46 PM
My dad had colon cancer last year and went thru chemo, radiation and surgury to get better. He has been doing ok but is struggling with his hemoglobin and white blood count. He was rushed to the hospital this morning after passing out (still waiting on results to see whats wrong) and so far all I know is his white blood count is really low. Any suggestions on what he can eat or juice that might help him get his white blood count up. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks.....Jeannie

rawbeliever
10-03-2006, 04:21 PM
I would check into Ann Wigmore, Brenda Cobb, & wheatgrass. I don't think there's anything out there that will raise white blood cell count specifically, but for a quick fix of vitamins and amino acids, nothing's better than wheatgrass.

Lay-Lay
10-03-2006, 04:22 PM
I agree with the above. Check out this website: www.livingfoodsinstitute.com

eatyourbroccoli
10-03-2006, 04:40 PM
wheatgrass id guess

Lay-Lay
10-03-2006, 04:45 PM
coconut milk may assist but I am not for sure on that.

JEN
10-03-2006, 05:13 PM
Thanks for your suggestions everyone!! Wheatgrass was the first thing that came to mind for me too. I have a friend who mixes her wheatgrass in her coconut water. She says she gets and instant buzz!!

JustMe
10-03-2006, 05:45 PM
check this site out:

www.chlorellafactor.com

chlorophyll raises your blood count. i think it was ann wigmore that said when you drink it, it's like an instant blood transfusion because the cells are alike except for one thing which is the nucleus i believe. i can't remember what the difference was, but i'm sure if you go to the website that information is there.

at this site i gave you, there is a part that talks about patients taking this stuff when they are on chemo, etc. and it helps to keep their blood count up and their survival rate up as well. check it out. it's cool!

Brianna
10-03-2006, 05:51 PM
WHeatgrass, green juices, greens, algaes (such as E3 Live).

JEN
10-04-2006, 12:28 AM
Thanks for your help everyone and thanks Lay Lay and Just me for the great sites.

Queen Shelley
10-04-2006, 12:51 AM
Carrot Juice!!!

exurb
10-04-2006, 08:56 AM
scientific studies which we often quote here show that cooked food will raise your white blood count.

those studies are usually quoted that to show that our body is raising an immune response to the cooked food.

I think just try to get good overall restorative nutrition, but enough iron is also imperative.

Best wishes to your dad for recovery!

rawnora
10-04-2006, 09:23 AM
Jeannie,
White blood cells are the body's bouncers. They escort troublemakers out. With your dad's permission, the medical profession has pumped his body full of poisons and subjected it to known cancer-causing procedures (i.e., radiation, etc.). His white contingent just couldn't keep up. The body doesn't have an infinite ability to eliminate poisons. It is the overwhelming of the body with poisons, the outstripping of its abilities to get rid of them as fast as they're coming in, that kills people, not cancer. There are actually very few people who truly die of cancer, and those are the ones whose cases are very far advanced before they discover how to remove the cause. The remaining 95-99% of cancer deaths are caused by the treatments. One study that was done a few years ago found that people who subject to cancer treatments live an average of 3.5 years, but people who choose to do nothing in response to their cancers live 12 years.

If your dad believes his cancer had no cause, there isn't much you can do for him. The procedures he's just submitted to are cancer-causing in healthy people, so so-called secondary cancers or the 'return' of the cancer is a very real problem for people who are already sick. However, if he's willing to consider the idea that if he removes the cause of his problems, his problems will go away, there is a very good chance his cancer will not return.

Removing the cause is very simple. It took decades of egregious abuse to create his cancer. To stop creating it, he just has to stop eating junky cooked foods and start eating fruits, tender greens, nuts and seeds. There are no magical foods that assist this or that bodily function. To reverse her cancer, Dr. Lorraine Day adopted a regimen that included lots of juicing (especially carrot juice), so she now advocates juicing. It wasn't the juicing that did the trick, however, it was the fact that she was no longer doing the things that cause cancer. She could have eaten only apples or oranges and gotten better results. Her cancer most likely would have gone away even if she'd eaten only Lara bars and Igor burgers. :) Cancer takes a lot of creating. Even in little kids who have cancer, repeated, flagrant violations of the laws of nature are to blame. It just doesn't take as long in some people. Cancer doesn't just happen, as the medical profession wants us to believe, it always has a cause. Anything that has to be caused can be stopped simply by removing the cause.

If your dad is open to drinking wheat grass juice (ew:)), it should be no problem getting him to observe a few simple healthful practices that would *truly* help him, like eating only fruit in the morning and not combining cooked starches and cooked proteins. Every time he eats bacon and eggs in the morning, a ham sandwich for lunch or fish and rice for dinner, his body has to send out an inordinate number of bouncer cells to deal with the poisons that are produced by such practices. If he wants his body to have more white cells available to do their jobs, he needs to stop overworking them.

Your dad will never be told these things by his doctors. Doctors do not consider causes, they only suppress effects. That's their job.

I'd be happy to assist further if you or he are interested. I wish for your dad the speediest recovery possible.

Warm wishes,
Nora
www.RawSchool.com

alex
10-04-2006, 09:55 AM
Very well said RawNora!!

There is no specific food that will increase health - it is almost more what we don't eat then what we do eat.

Two 'facts' which seem to be true are these:

1) cancer can not grow in an alkaline environment

2) cancer can not grow in the presence of high concentrations of oxygen

Therefore the question becomes: How can I create an alkaline environment in my body as well as increasing the concentration of oxygen??

Very simply: vegetables - the darker green the better - kale, spinach, collard greens, beet greens, turnip greens, romaine lettuce, swiss chard etc

The fastest way to get the nutrients into ones body is by juicing!

(I have not checked this, but I read the other day that if chlorophyll is injected into the bloodstream, it will be converted to blood and can in fact be used instead of blood in transfusions).

Therefore: juice greens - in your dad's case, 1 glass probably three times a day.

Please do your own research.

Take the best care


alex

rawnora
10-04-2006, 09:53 PM
Very well said RawNora!!

...How can I create an alkaline environment in my body as well as increasing the concentration of oxygen??
Very simply: vegetables - the darker green the better - kale, spinach, collard greens, beet greens, turnip greens, romaine lettuce, swiss chard etc

The fastest way to get the nutrients into ones body is by juicing!

(I have not checked this, but I read the other day that if chlorophyll is injected into the bloodstream, it will be converted to blood and can in fact be used instead of blood in transfusions).

Therefore: juice greens - in your dad's case, 1 glass probably three times a day.
alex

Alex,
Thanks for the compliment.

It's true that cancer needs an acidic, oxygen-deprived environment in which to thrive. However, in order to not create this kind of environment, a person need only stop eating acid-forming foods, and replace these with biologically appropriate foods of all kinds. A diet comprised mostly of fruit with the addition of green leafy vegetables (if desired) and nuts in small quantities would be optimal, and would create the ideal internal environment for healing.

That greens contain some substances that are chemically similar to human blood does not automatically render them optimal foods. Following that logic, the best food for humans would be the blood or flesh of other humans. In considering which foods are best, the most important factor to take into account is digestibility. Many of the tough greens that you mention are difficult to digest due to their cellulose content. It is often claimed that juicing is the answer to that dilemma but the problem there is oxidation. Blended, juiced and otherwise processed foods decompose very rapidly. In addition, when we eat foods whole the presence of fiber slows down absorption to a normal level. When foods are devoid of fiber, the body is overloaded and is not able to properly utilize nutrients. In all of our lengthy history, humans have never had access to foods that were juiced or otherwise processed. Therefore, juiced foods couldn't possibly be superior to foods in their whole, natural state.

It is not true that chlorophyll can be used as a replacement for blood when transfusions are needed. The body can only convert foods to blood if the foods are eaten, digested and assimilated in the natural, normal way. I'm not quite sure what would happen if a person was injected with chlorohphyll but I do know that the body would not be able to make use of it and would have to eliminate it like any other foreign substance.

Best wishes,
Nora
www.RawSchool.com

JEN
10-05-2006, 01:03 AM
Nora and Alex thanks so much for all the information. I will pass it on to my dad. Ultimately I know that it must be his decision to want to change his diet and lifestyle. He is back home tonight but now they need to look closer at a spot on his liver and one on his brain. Its such a shame that the docs dont reccommend a diet change since he seems to believe everything they say. Thanks for yor help everyone!

lissomllama
10-05-2006, 01:48 AM
Rawnora said it all, as usual :) I've been trying to get people to understand the same thing. People could seriously heal themselves if they would just live a natural lifestyle.

LightLover
10-05-2006, 06:46 AM
Great story Nora, I was wondering what your opinion is on all the different
vegetables and theit digestability, for example: I find watercress hard to chew on, just like broccoli, should I belnd/juice it.?
gardencress for exapmle is easy to chew

Is there somewhere a table with more info (more info than: do what you feel..) about what is the best processingmethod for the most important vegetables?
(chewing/juicing/blending)?


many thanks, LL

alex
10-05-2006, 07:32 AM
An excellent book to read is: How I Cured Cancer Naturally by Edie Mae.

She went to Ann Wigmore at the Hippocrates Institute which is now run by Brian Clement.

May I also suggest listening to the interview with Brian Clement on: rawveganradio.com

To live 'naturally', would mean living as a hunter-gatherer since we did that for a couple of million years!!

The food available today is very different from what has been available to us throughout our evolution - even fruits, and veggies.

To get around the juicing question: one tip that I picked up was to juice the greens, immediately drink the juice and then eat most of the pulp as a 'porridge' in water. This provides the maximum nutrients (important especially for a cancer patient) as well as the fiber which slows things down to make it more absorbable.


alex

rawnora
10-05-2006, 08:36 AM
Great story Nora, I was wondering what your opinion is on all the different
vegetables and theit digestability, for example: I find watercress hard to chew on, just like broccoli, should I belnd/juice it.?
gardencress for exapmle is easy to chew

Is there somewhere a table with more info (more info than: do what you feel..) about what is the best processingmethod for the most important vegetables?
(chewing/juicing/blending)?


many thanks, LL

There is a table on my website which rates raw foods. It's here:
http://www.rawschool.com/bestrawfoods.htm

If you like the taste of certain veggies that are hard to chew, juicing or blending is fine as a transition tool. Eventually, however, people who are pursuing the very pinnacle of health stop processing food with any regularity. I still juice occasionally (a few times a year) and I know other long term raw fooders who do this as well, but it's not necessary or desirable. When I do juice, the only greens I use are lettuce and celery, not the denser greens. I stopped juicing dense greens in about my 2nd year of being raw, when they started making me nauseous. Juiced romaine has all the positive aspects of any juiced green without the harmful substances contained in the bitter-tasting greens like kale and collards.

Generally, vegetables are wildly over-rated as foods. They should be eaten only to the extent that they truly taste, smell and feel good. When we allow our senses to guide us, vegetables cannot compete with fruit for raw, unadulterated appeal. What our bodies need most is sugar and water. Compared to fruit, vegetables fall short. My recommendation is -- eat them, but only if you like them.

Regards,
Nora
www.RawSchool.com

LightLover
10-05-2006, 11:48 AM
I rememeber I have looked at that table before, very interesting!
I guess that the focus on chlorophyll is also looking a little overdone/over-rated to you?

Regards, LL

wyjoz
10-05-2006, 02:32 PM
Read these:

http://www.alkalizeforhealth.net/cancerselftreatment.htm


http://www.4nutrition.com/bcnchapter_7.htm


another important factor is we do not 'breath' deep enough.
Stay RAW excercise do deep breathing (we should do 6 breaths per minute) I just learned that 3 weeks ago in our Depression Class! WOW it must be deep and slow.

Read "The Cure is in The cause" Dr. Ruza Bodganovich, N.D.