question about stress and pain

[kellibelli]

I am stressed out...had a poopy day. When I get significantly stressed out my jaw hurts and I usually take a max dose of Motrin (800 mg) to take care of the pain and tension. Does anyone know how I can help relieve the pain without the drugs??? Any help would be much appreciated. :confused:

[misslinda]

Hey Kellibelli,

I hear ya on this topic......

Do you think it may be more beneficial to deal with stress differnetly to "prevent" pain? Meanwhile, are you shoulders tight too? Magnesium is said to be one of the first nutrients to get depleted under stress etc.

;)

[kellibelli]

This pain is pretty much specific to my jaw. I had jaw surgery when I was a child and now I have TMJ and arthritis and whenever I get super stressed the pain kicks in. There is no pain in my shoulders at this point, though. Do you think magnesium would help??? I know it is tension/stress related because this only happens when I have been crying basically and that only happens when I am super stressed out. What foods would you suggest that have magnesium in them? Also as far as preventing the stress...I believe this particular stressor will be out of my life pretty much as soon as I can get the crying and pent up emotions out of my system, but as far as preventing the other stressors that come along in life I will most definitely do my best to avoid them...hmm...yikes...sounds kind of hard to do though...I would accept any help on that front as well!!!

[misslinda]

This pain is pretty much specific to my jaw. I had jaw surgery when I was a child and now I have TMJ and arthritis and whenever I get super stressed the pain kicks in. There is no pain in my shoulders at this point, though. Do you think magnesium would help??? I know it is tension/stress related because this only happens when I have been crying basically and that only happens when I am super stressed out. What foods would you suggest that have magnesium in them? Also as far as preventing the stress...I believe this particular stressor will be out of my life pretty much as soon as I can get the crying and pent up emotions out of my system, but as far as preventing the other stressors that come along in life I will most definitely do my best to avoid them...hmm...yikes...sounds kind of hard to do though...I would accept any help on that front as well!!!

oh goodness, I am so so sorry you are dealing with something that is out of your control for now.....take your time.

I'll throw a number of suggestions.

Massage the back of head around toward the sides and bottom of ears.

slow stomach massage---upper on both sides have triggers to salivary glands that react when crying.

Massage big toes

Meditation with deep breathing exercies---yoga cobra position allow breath to fill the body and open up blockages.

Warm bath with candles,lavendar oil

Sandalwood oil a powerful healer--calming

If you want to supplement in times of need, Dr Giliham's CALM is a high grade patented powder form of magnesium.

Always rest after crying and have some water to hydrate ---never eat right after a strong emotion attack.

Endless and boundless baskets of love and healing to you...... :)

[kellibelli]

Thank you! So many suggestions and thank you also for the well wishes. I am going to put your suggestions as an icon on my desk top so that I can refer to them in the future too...Again, thank you so much!!! Can you describe the stomach massage so that I do it right, because I get the feeling this particular massage may really help me out this time in particular? Thanks a TON. :)

[misslinda]

Thank you! So many suggestions and thank you also for the well wishes. I am going to put your suggestions as an icon on my desk top so that I can refer to them in the future too...Again, thank you so much!!! Can you describe the stomach massage so that I do it right, because I get the feeling this particular massage may really help me out this time in particular? Thanks a TON. :)

If you get to the point of your stress that you end up with pain, don't try to fight it....instead, allow it to be there and observe how it flows.

Do slow semi deep massage around the chin.

Massage in slow circular motion starting upper left (as if you are looking at your stomach lying down). Work all the way around toward the upper right. My jaw pain tend to come from these to points but that is b/c I have an infection in my salivary glands.......if your source is differnet, you may also try massaging the scapula (wings) on both sides of your back.

Deep breathing blowing your stoamch if you were pregnant looking and slowly let it all out.

;)

[kellibelli]

I will do that when I get finished working tonight. Thanks again for your help.

[misslinda]

oh I forgot, there is an excellent chart for foot andhand reflexology, let me find that and post it for ya.


Yur welcome and nothing but healing.

[misslinda]

http://www.ofesite.com/health/reflex/chart/


:)

[kellibelli]

Hey, that would be terrific. I look forward to getting that chart...no doubt it will be another icon for me to put on my desk top to refer to!

[Pierre]

Try any or all of BioSil, MSM, vitamin C, and sunlight. Your body will tell you which you need. Don't just take it when your jaw hurts; take it all the time, to heal your jaw.

[kellibelli]

I dont spend a lot of time AT ALL in the direct sunlight...always inside all day working, etcetera. I will make it a point to spend time outside daily even if it is only for 10 minutes or so. I can start immediately. I will also look into the other supplements you mentioned...just the thought of healing and being pain free is not something I ever thought could be possible, but I am hopeful that this too can be obtained...thank you Pierre.

[DavidZaneMason]

Opinion:

-Great advice from Misslinda and others!

-Forward momentum in your life can often be gained by bringing 'ok-ness' and acceptance to what IS - rather than trying to prevent it or cover it up with medications. What I am saying is: When you bring true attention and ok-ness / acceptance to even physical pain.....the causes of it become apparent.....and the physical symptom will diminish and eventually disappear. Accepting ALL symptomology (without judging it / condemining it) is the first step to all true healing.

-The two pathways are mutually exclusive - you cannot have true attention / presence...AND pain at the same time. You cannot fully accept pain.....AND feel pain at the same time. Try it!

-David Mason

[sport]

I had jaw surgery back in 1982 for TMJ but it did not help me.
I suffered on for years until I discovered the Semi Supine Position in the Alaxander Technique.
Now as soon as I feel a pain starting I lie on the floor with my knees up and a stack of magazines under my head.
I remove magazines until I am comfortable (it will not be the same hight all the time).
I push the stack pack enough to apply a little tension to my neck.
I lie there watching the news on the telly or relaxing and as soon as I am totally comfortable again I move the magazines (and my head) back a little further to get the strain back.
After 20 minutes I get up slowly.
By using this I have avoided all but the slightest pain for the past 10 years or so.

[exurb]

very interesting post sport, thanks for mentioning that.

I am currently considering Alexander or Feldenkrais, time/effort is limited.

Can you tell me more about Alexander technique, or anything you know about either? It would be greatly appreciated!

Next question, tongue in cheek, how do you watch the news and relax at the same time?! :eek:

[Lay-Lay]

I have TMJ also. I have noticed some help with eating 100% raw foods over time. Mine hurts worse when stressed too. I do relaxation techniques and it really helps. Hope you feel better soon!

[sport]

very interesting post sport, thanks for mentioning that.

I am currently considering Alexander or Feldenkrais, time/effort is limited.

Can you tell me more about Alexander technique, or anything you know about either? It would be greatly appreciated!

Next question, tongue in cheek, how do you watch the news and relax at the same time?! :eek:
I think that the alaxander technique is amazing if you have a good practicioner but I think that there is so much to learn to be good that a lot of them just pick up the basics.
I have attended a bad one and a briliant one and the difference was huge.

I can relax watching the news or listening to rock music or doing a lot of things but I could not relax if there was a soap on the telly or music like Frank Sinatra came on the radio as they annoy me and I would have to switch them off. I guess it is all a matter of what you are used to.

[Lay-Lay]

Excuse my ignorance but what is the Alexander technique?

[exurb]

thanks sport!!! I think I will try to find a really good practitioner per your advice.

LL, maybe this answers some of your question...

www.alexandertechnique.com