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stiletto
09-24-2006, 11:17 PM
Ugghh..
I've been eating SAD... soup! the minute the weather cooled off a bit. I just don't feel like being raw. what do it do. I don't feel like it. I wan't coffee, soup, bruschetta... help!!!! I don't think I can do this.
Stiletto
Tangerina
09-24-2006, 11:34 PM
yeah, its been getting all cold and autumnal here too so I have been making heavier, spicier foods.... I live near the Canadian border in the Pacific Northwest and it gets very chilly and rainy here, but so far so good, the heavy food ad spices really helps me.... maybe that could work for you? Make things like herbal tea and miso to enjoy hot along with your raw foods, that helps. And try more traditionally autmnal recipes... like today I made the mashed potatoes and gravey from Alissa's book... I was skeptical at best that they might be remotely good, but holy moly, it was awesome and filling and salty like the real thing, amazing! Try a recipe with lots of cinnamon, like some sweet potato pie (ask me if you need the recipe) or maybe try Alissa's broccoli soup (also AWESOME!) but add a bit of cayene and curry, thats what I did and it made me feel warm inside. Get into sprouting, buckwheat is especially easy because it only needs to be soaked and I made a cereal out of it today (dehydrator recipe from Raw Food Real World) with maple and cinnamon... I'm going to eat it with almond milk.... and tomorrow I'm going to use my sprouted barley and wheat to make the zuccini and cinnamon raisin breads from Alissa's book..... as I write this I'm having some hot blackberry tea with a bit of lemon, agave and sake in it (leave out the sake if you aren't doing wine) and it is really warming me up.... basically, the point is that when you do the heavy and spicy foods it has the same effect of warming you up and filling your tummy in that satisfying way even though technically they are cold.... you can also use a dehydrator to warm soups and breads and things like that.... keep eating those fresh fruits and veg because they are so essential, but maybe try some of this stuff....
Goldsplinter
09-24-2006, 11:48 PM
Ugghh..
I've been eating SAD... soup! the minute the weather cooled off a bit. I just don't feel like being raw. what do it do. I don't feel like it. I wan't coffee, soup, bruschetta... help!!!! I don't think I can do this.
Stiletto
You have a choice, if you want to be raw than be raw, if you want to eat other stuff, than eat it. If you wanna do both, then do both.
Gosia
09-25-2006, 12:07 AM
When I really feel that I can't do raw anymore, then I let myself eat cooked until I realize that what I really can't do is cooked.
Gosia
misslinda
09-25-2006, 12:09 AM
Have you tried warming up your raw soups in the dehydrator or crock pot? You can even use warming spices if you are into that OR is the thought of raw during the colder months getting to you?
:)
Ginger
09-25-2006, 12:34 AM
Yup raw soup can be heated up a bit.
Bruschetta is raw. Easy peasy.
Coffee heh heh heh.. I make my own raw coffee! I make sesame milk & add a dash of organic coffee extract! I can totally justify this because I also use vanilla extract in some recipes. heh heh heh.. YUM btw it makes awesome coffee frappuccinos too! :D
rawpriestess
09-25-2006, 12:49 AM
I make warmed tea, and warmed soups, and warmed flat breads, and I use alot of garlic, and onion, and ginger and cayenne, makes things taste hotter than they are.
I love the fall, and eating this way, mmmmmmmmm pumpkin and squash and nuts and grapes and apples and spiced warmed cider, and and and mmmmmmmmmm
Sharon in Colorado
09-25-2006, 12:54 AM
When I really feel that I can't do raw anymore, then I let myself eat cooked until I realize that what I really can't do is cooked.
Gosia
This is true for me too. I will eat "healthy" cooked, then it goes to garbage-y cooked and I start feeling really bad and back to raw I go. You'll probably do the same thing Stiletto.
Adrian
09-25-2006, 10:51 AM
yeah, its been getting all cold and autumnal here too so I have been making heavier, spicier foods.... I live near the Canadian border in the Pacific Northwest and it gets very chilly and rainy here, but so far so good, the heavy food ad spices really helps me.... maybe that could work for you? Make things like herbal tea and miso to enjoy hot along with your raw foods, that helps. And try more traditionally autmnal recipes... like today I made the mashed potatoes and gravey from Alissa's book... I was skeptical at best that they might be remotely good, but holy moly, it was awesome and filling and salty like the real thing, amazing! Try a recipe with lots of cinnamon, like some sweet potato pie (ask me if you need the recipe) or maybe try Alissa's broccoli soup (also AWESOME!) but add a bit of cayene and curry, thats what I did and it made me feel warm inside. Get into sprouting, buckwheat is especially easy because it only needs to be soaked and I made a cereal out of it today (dehydrator recipe from Raw Food Real World) with maple and cinnamon... I'm going to eat it with almond milk.... and tomorrow I'm going to use my sprouted barley and wheat to make the zuccini and cinnamon raisin breads from Alissa's book..... as I write this I'm having some hot blackberry tea with a bit of lemon, agave and sake in it (leave out the sake if you aren't doing wine) and it is really warming me up.... basically, the point is that when you do the heavy and spicy foods it has the same effect of warming you up and filling your tummy in that satisfying way even though technically they are cold.... you can also use a dehydrator to warm soups and breads and things like that.... keep eating those fresh fruits and veg because they are so essential, but maybe try some of this stuff....
Stiletto, :) Go to East Coast and See Mike(can't remember his name) and have him make you some soups or warm me up dishes :)
Anyway, I would just say, you have to decide what you want to do and go for it. It might not be 100% raw, or maybe not just right now. Like others have mentioned, when you start feeling like crap, or once you've eaten too much SAD, then maybe you will be ready to go back Raw.
Wishing you well in whatever you chose to do, but try to hang in there. It's hard sometimes, but hey... all we can do is try!
Adrian
Tangerina, Can you send the Sweet Potato Pie recipe. I could use some. :)
Just get creative and as Revvell says "always play with your food." Ive been wanting something warm in the mornings so Ive been soaking raw oats overnight, drain, put in vitamix and add water to the oat line, dates, and blend until warm. It makes a great oatmeal and add agave, cinnamon, and raisons if you wish. Theres also a couple chai recipes here somewhere and they are great as well.
Pumpkin bread and pumpkin pie are sounding really yummy right now too. Cant wait to make some.
Tangerina
09-25-2006, 11:15 AM
Adrian,
Here is the recipe as it was written on the website I got it from:
Raw Sweet Potato Casserole Recipe #151259
Creamy, slightly sweet casserole topped with walnuts. Yes, it's made with raw sweet potato and the texture isn't exactly like your typical sweet potato casserole, but I love it! Tweaked the original recipe from Herbs for Health magazine, which called for dehydrating the nuts. Prep time does not include soaking the nuts overnight.
by yogi
6 servings
30 min 30 min prep
1 1/2 cups pecans or walnuts, soaked overnight, then drained (let dry a bit on a paper towel)
4 cups peeled and chopped sweet potatoes
1/2 cup water
1/2 cup dates, soaked for about 20 minutes
1 teaspoon cinnamon
1 teaspoon vanilla (this is not a raw product)
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/4 cup honey
Put potatoes, 1/2 C nuts, dates, cinnamon and vanilla in processor and puree till smooth.
Pour into a casserole dish.
In another bowl, mix the remaining 1 C nuts with salt and honey, and sprinkle over the potato mixture.
I enjoyed this at room tempurature, but still good straight out of the frig.
*****
It is really good!!! My ex ate half of it in one sitting and he was kind of skeptical about raw food being yummy... I added a bit of agave since the amount of dates I used didn't make it quite sweet enough, but you can adjust.
Adrian
09-25-2006, 10:04 PM
Adrian,
Here is the recipe as it was written on the website I got it from:
Raw Sweet Potato Casserole Recipe #151259
Creamy, slightly sweet casserole topped with walnuts. Yes, it's made with raw sweet potato and the texture isn't exactly like your typical sweet potato casserole, but I love it! Tweaked the original recipe from Herbs for Health magazine, which called for dehydrating the nuts. Prep time does not include soaking the nuts overnight.
by yogi
6 servings
30 min 30 min prep
1 1/2 cups pecans or walnuts, soaked overnight, then drained (let dry a bit on a paper towel)
4 cups peeled and chopped sweet potatoes
1/2 cup water
1/2 cup dates, soaked for about 20 minutes
1 teaspoon cinnamon
1 teaspoon vanilla (this is not a raw product)
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/4 cup honey
Put potatoes, 1/2 C nuts, dates, cinnamon and vanilla in processor and puree till smooth.
Pour into a casserole dish.
In another bowl, mix the remaining 1 C nuts with salt and honey, and sprinkle over the potato mixture.
I enjoyed this at room tempurature, but still good straight out of the frig.
*****
It is really good!!! My ex ate half of it in one sitting and he was kind of skeptical about raw food being yummy... I added a bit of agave since the amount of dates I used didn't make it quite sweet enough, but you can adjust.
Thanks Tangerina for the recipe. I will let you know how I like it once I make it. (Probably not right away, maybe in a few weeks).
SedonaSun
09-25-2006, 10:17 PM
This is true for me too. I will eat "healthy" cooked, then it goes to garbage-y cooked and I start feeling really bad and back to raw I go. You'll probably do the same thing Stiletto.
Here I thought I was the only one! Seriously... it seems all the veterans of the board are generally "totally raw" and it's the newbies who talk about the problems staying raw. I've felt like a stinkin' loser sometimes because I get drawn back to the "healthy cooked" which leads to french fries, which leads back to raw again eventually.
Cinnamon
09-25-2006, 11:53 PM
Ahhh... Kelly and Sharon! I am right there with you. After years of doing this I still fall into the "healthy" cooked, followed by junkie cooked, and then always head right back to raw. All within a few days and then I am fine again till that cooked food monster strikes again. You are not alone, I am right there with you!
mongomango
09-26-2006, 12:19 AM
Many people are raw for health reasons..raw is the healthiest way to eat, the natural way to eat, etc.
But I believe it's more than that. And sometimes thinking about the more can give us the strength to hold on that one more day that gets us over the hump...or brings us back on course if we've somehow headed in another direction. This thinking has always helped me to overcome certain things when I would really focus on in and think about it, and I hope it might be of some small help to you.
All around us in the air are libraries of information. Every radio show, every tv show, every satellite transmission, every cell phone call..etc. From the very first one to the very last. Right there..all we need is a way to access it and you would be able to tell your neighbor about his bank transactions.
Likewise, creator beams his love, his guidance to us and it surrounds us every second of every day. All we need is a way to access it. But he has given us a way...and it is our body. Your body is not just a vehicle, it's a receiver. When the body is in a pure state, transmission comes though loud and clear..even as it's moving to a purer state, people begin finding clarity in their lives and values and ideas changing spontaneously. Life is in the blood it is said. In even the healthiest cooked food diet, the blood is filled with toxins and I liken it to sludge...transmission can be slowed down and even stopped. Our minds become less clear, less focused, our body struggles to maintain itself under the assault it is coming under...and it's true purpose, imo, has been thwarted. Anyhow, these are my thoughts .. and what I believe to be true. I am considered something of a woo-woo by most people, lol, so take it for what it's worth, but it is a reason besides health ..which I can sometimes toss out the window..to be raw.
CarlaVeg
09-26-2006, 08:13 AM
Hello everyone!!
I'm really new to raw foods.... I'm a vegetarian trying to incorporate more raw foods inmy diet little by little....
How can you eat raw sweet potatoes or potatoes???? doesn't give you stomachache????? I would be very afraind to try this as I have mild IBS...
Has anyone have problems with eating raw sweet potatoes or potatoes?
pinkglttr
09-26-2006, 08:19 AM
I tried to bump up a thread about winter foods for you, but it seems it has been lost again. I will bump it again. There were lots of tips about getting over this. Good luck!
The_Breatharian_One
09-26-2006, 11:35 AM
Hello everyone!!
I'm really new to raw foods.... I'm a vegetarian trying to incorporate more raw foods inmy diet little by little....
How can you eat raw sweet potatoes or potatoes???? doesn't give you stomachache????? I would be very afraind to try this as I have mild IBS...
Has anyone have problems with eating raw sweet potatoes or potatoes?
Yes, not least the fact that they taste like sh#t.
If you want to eat them then just boil them or something, taste better and easier to digest.
One other thing - why is it that so many on here equate not raw with SAD ???
mongomango
09-26-2006, 11:41 AM
Sweet potatoes are very good raw imo!
rawfigure
09-26-2006, 02:55 PM
When I really feel that I can't do raw anymore, then I let myself eat cooked until I realize that what I really can't do is cooked.
Gosia
Well said Gosia ! I do this myself...one day will make me think RAW RAW RAW !!!
pinkglttr
09-26-2006, 09:12 PM
Breatharian-
We do not promote cooking foods (standard american diet), because we prefer to eat raw. If a food is not appealing in it's raw state, you probably should just not eat it. Is raw meat appealing? Does it make you salivate? I mean, uncooked with no sauces? NO IT DOES NOT. And if other vegetables do not make you salivate in their raw form, you probably can avoid them.
rawfigure
09-27-2006, 06:54 AM
One other thing - why is it that so many on here equate not raw with SAD ???
Breatharian...I think that it is because the highest % of the population eat a SAD ! It is a small % of the population who actually eat a healthy cooked (vegetarian) type diet that is not SAD. Even cooked vegan/vegetarians eat alot of the junk type diet so maybe that would be SVD ..standard vegetarian diet !
I used to eat the SBD ..standard bodybuilding diet and thought i ate healthier than the average, but still it was nothing close to RAW ! :D
star1919
09-27-2006, 08:02 AM
Hi... This is a helpful thread... I'm glad I read it! Thanks all... :D
Being high raw... is still a very healthy way of eating. Most of all, I was thinking how I've sometimes made things harder for myself... by striving too much for the perfection of something... the all or nothing... and sometimes giving up... if I didn't arrive at my perceived ideal...
I'm learning to soften and simplify my approach to things... to allow, to grow... and to not wait for or expect perfect circumstances in what I am doing... I'm finding it better to simply live more freely...
And, in this... my life is more vibrant... open... and amazingly... more accomplished... and more fun...
The_Breatharian_One
09-27-2006, 08:03 AM
"We do not promote cooking foods (standard american diet), because we prefer to eat raw."
I gathered that much.
If a food is not appealing in it's raw state, you probably should just not eat it.
Why ?
1) I eat what I deem fit.
2) Give me some reliable scientific evidence that cooking food, conservatively of course, makes it bad for your health.
Is raw meat appealing? Does it make you salivate? I mean, uncooked with no sauces? NO IT DOES NOT.
I'm not really a fan of meat, raw or cooked. And I do believe we're not meat eaters.
And if other vegetables do not make you salivate in their raw form, you probably can avoid them.
Very few vegetables make me salivate, period.
Do you find any raw vegetables delicious on their own with no dressing, combinations etc ?
Then maybe we aren't designed to eat those either.
Breatharian...I think that it is because the highest % of the population eat a SAD ! It is a small % of the population who actually eat a healthy cooked (vegetarian) type diet that is not SAD. Even cooked vegan/vegetarians eat alot of the junk type diet so maybe that would be SVD ..standard vegetarian diet !
I used to eat the SBD ..standard bodybuilding diet and thought i ate healthier than the average, but still it was nothing close to RAW !
What about those that eat a very healthy diet with mostly raw food, some cooked food ? Why are those people branded as "SAD" ? Can you prove to me that 100% raw is more healthy than about 80% raw, for example ?
A lot of raw fooders be like "oh my gosh, I just ate a freakin' baked potato, I'm infested with SADness, now I'm like one of those...common, SAD folk !!! How will I ever live with myself!!! Pass me the paracetamol!!
You get the picture.
Revvell
09-27-2006, 08:18 AM
A lot of raw fooders be like "oh my gosh, I just ate a freakin' baked potato, I'm infested with SADness, now I'm like one of those...common, SAD folk !!! How will I ever live with myself!!! Pass me the paracetamol!!
You get the picture.
LMSSSAO! Yuh!
I have friends who eat what, to them, is healthy. All the physical training they do is done in nature ~ qigong, militay training, martial arts, etc. and they eat lots of raw yet, quite a bit cooked, all vegan. They've got more energy than any two or three other people I know.
I agree. A lot of people who are vegetarian/vegan eat junk because they don't do it for their own health, they do it for "ethical" reasons. I use to attend a vegetarian dining club and the stuff they ingested... oh my! How much can I drink? It's vegetarian, isn't it?
I come from a different background. Been vegetarian for my health since '86 which lead me to raw (via the folk I mentioned above) and find raw works for me.
Yet, don't assume that everyone who doesn't eat totally raw go directly to SAD ~ many do yet, many don't. They may go back to cooked vegan/vegetarian. Who knows? Who cares? What others eat is up to them. They'll find what works and what doesn't. Choice is good ~ long as we play with our food. :D
Revvell
Sharon in Colorado
09-27-2006, 09:06 AM
Do you find any raw vegetables delicious on their own with no dressing, combinations etc ?
Yes - absolutely :)
Guppy
09-27-2006, 10:02 AM
Me too! Here is a list of vegetables that I love naked: w/o any dressing, sauce, anything:
-Tomatoes (ya, it's a fruit, I know, lol)
-Cucumbers (ditto!)
-Romaine lettuce
-Carrots!!!!!!!!
-Red Peppers
-Celery
-Broccoli
-Corn
-Mushrooms
-Fennel
-Arugula
-Mesculun
-Baby Spinach
Hmmmm...what else?
pinkglttr
09-27-2006, 10:42 AM
Do raw foods make me salivate? Oh let me count the ways...
Cucumbers (plain)
tomatoes (plain)
nuts (plain)
brocolli (plain)
carrots (plain)
homemade guac (avocado, tomato, cilantro, lime)
bell peppers (sliced only, no sauce)
celery
all fruits (obviously plain)
bananas
pears
apples
strawberries
mangoes
nectarines
plums
apricots
oranges
dates (oh, yum!)
blueberries
raspberries
watermelon
pineapple
... you get the point!
If you went long enough and got hungry and cleaned out your system, maybe you would find yourself craving fresh foods. The smell of a pear's skin was the most amazing thing to me at first. I had never smelled any fruit so wonderful. What other animals cook their foods? What giraffe has been given gastric bypass? To me it's obvious after watching other animals. Even chimps, who eat raw, don't have the weight problems we do. It comes right down to our diet.
Science is great and all (trust me, I minored in research) but it has it's limits. Even medicine is so often errored, so I can trust my instincts as best as any medicine or even more so! I have been vegetarian and found that most of my foods consisted of pasta, rice, potatoes, bread, etc. I am overweight after all of this, monitoring calories and everything! My weight is now starting to drop off since I cut out corn syrup, partially hydrogenized oils, and COOKED foods. That's my personal experience and I keep trying to think of how I would eat with only the foods given by God. I will admit the occasional treat slips in, but that's not the point. We are arguing what is "best" for us, and this is no doubt what is best.
The following are excerpts from this article (www.rawfoodlife.com/science_of_raw_v__cooked.htm)
Humans have been on earth for millions of years. Prior to mastering fire perhaps less than 10,000 years ago, humans thrived on a diet of nothing but fresh, live, unfired foods as furnished by nature in their whole unadulterated state.
Shifting from a conventional diet to an uncooked vegan diet reversibly alters fecal hydrolytic activities in humans, according to researchers, Ling WH, and Hanninen O, of the Department of Physiology, University of Kuopio, Finland. Results suggest a raw food uncooked extreme vegan diet causes a decrease in bacterial enzymes and certain toxic products that have been implicated in colon cancer risk.
According to research performed by cancerologist Dr. Bruce Ames, professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at University of California, Berkeley various groups of chemicals from cooked food causes tumors: ï· Nitrosamines are created from fish, poultry or meat cooked in gas ovens and barbecues, as nitrogen oxides within gas flames interact with fat residues; ï· Hetrocyclic amines form from heating proteins and amino acids; ï· Polycyclic hydrocarbons are created by charring meat; ï· Mucoid plaque, a thick tar-like substance builds up in the intestines on a diet of cooked foods. Mucoid plaque is caused by uneliminated, partically digested, putrefying cooked fatty and starch foods eaten in association with protein flesh foods; ï· Lipofuscin is another toxin: an accumulation of waste materials throughout the body and within cells of the skin, manifesting as spots in the liver as liver and in the nervous system including the brain, possibly contributing to ossification of gray matter and senility.
As for 80% versus 100%, just start up a thread asking about it and see what you get. No one here profits from raw (except maybe Alissa ;) ) but anyway, you will no doubt get honest information, just as good as any science evidence until there is some.
Gosia
09-27-2006, 05:58 PM
No one has to prove anything to anyone here. Want a proof? Get off your lazy bum and get it. I say it with love. : )))
Gosia
rawfigure
09-27-2006, 10:05 PM
What about those that eat a very healthy diet with mostly raw food, some cooked food ? Why are those people branded as "SAD" ? Can you prove to me that 100% raw is more healthy than about 80% raw, for example ?
A lot of raw fooders be like "oh my gosh, I just ate a freakin' baked potato, I'm infested with SADness, now I'm like one of those...common, SAD folk !!! How will I ever live with myself!!! Pass me the paracetamol!!
You get the picture.
What about those that eat a very healthy diet with mostly raw food, some cooked food ? Why are those people branded as "SAD" ?
Who branded them as SAD ????
Can you prove to me that 100% raw is more healthy than about 80% raw, for example ?
No plans to spend time proving anything to anyone..sorry. Eveyone is different and there is no best way/ cookie cutter way to do anything ...is there ?
A lot of raw fooders be like "oh my gosh, I just ate a freakin' baked potato, I'm infested with SADness, now I'm like one of those...common, SAD folk !!! How will I ever live with myself!!! Pass me the paracetamol!!
A lot of raw fooders say this ???...hmmm... I think more say..tomorrow is another day..............
Is you glass half full or half empty ?
spicyfull
09-27-2006, 10:41 PM
I wish you everything you need to Stay RAW...........
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 07:30 AM
Do raw foods make me salivate? Oh let me count the ways...
Cucumbers (plain)
tomatoes (plain)
nuts (plain)
brocolli (plain)
carrots (plain)
homemade guac (avocado, tomato, cilantro, lime)
bell peppers (sliced only, no sauce)
celery
all fruits (obviously plain)
bananas
pears
apples
strawberries
mangoes
nectarines
plums
apricots
oranges
dates (oh, yum!)
blueberries
raspberries
watermelon
pineapple
... you get the point!
Most of those are fruits - my question was regarding vegetables.
And I'm talking about the vegetables on their own (with no other vegetables), which is how you're likely to find them in nature.
Are you honestly telling me that raw broccoli, on its own, makes you salivate ?
Get the hell out!!! - I don't care how "clean" your insides are !!!
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 07:34 AM
Can you prove to me that 100% raw is more healthy than about 80% raw, for example ?
"No plans to spend time proving anything to anyone..sorry. Eveyone is different and there is no best way/ cookie cutter way to do anything ...is there ? "
In other words, "no".
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 07:36 AM
Yes - absolutely :)
Which ones ?
Sharon in Colorado
09-28-2006, 08:44 AM
What is your goal here Breatharian One?
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 09:32 AM
What is your goal here Breatharian One?
None in particular, just interested to see whether people can actually back up what they say.
Can you answer my question ?
Revvell
09-28-2006, 09:43 AM
Are you honestly telling me that raw broccoli, on its own, makes you salivate ?
Get the hell out!!! - I don't care how "clean" your insides are !!!
LMSSSAO! Salivating at the thought of raw broccoli. Ohhhhh, ick! :D
Conscious Midwife
09-28-2006, 09:46 AM
AVACADO MAKES ME SALIVATE ;)
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 09:53 AM
AVACADO MAKES ME SALIVATE ;)
It's (technically) a fruit, I'm talking raw, singular, vegetables.
Rawkinlocs
09-28-2006, 09:54 AM
Breatharian (aka X-Minded), as it's been said, NO ONE HERE HAS TO PROVE ANYTHING TO YOU OR ANYONE ELSE!
I mean ...you asked if there were any vegetables that people liked to eat with nothing on them and some wrote down some. Yeah, they might have also listed some non-sweet fruit that we all know have been USED AS veggies, but they also listed some that are truly veggies. But was that good enough for you? NOOO, it wasn't. You asked for "some" veggies, not a whole exhaustive list of veggies.
People like what they like and who are you to come and tell people whether or not they salivate over certain (undressed) veggies?
You asked if 100% raw is healthier than 80% raw...have YOU tried it for yourself for any given period of time beyond a month to see for yourself? Probably not. Can you prove that 100% is NOT healthier than 80% raw? Probably not. We are not going to get into a cooked vs. raw debate here because this is a RAW FOOD FORUM where people are striving to eat raw. No one is categorizing eating a baked potato or some steamed veggies with being on a SAD...however, some people DO end up downward spiraling to EATING a SAD once they get any taste of cooked food be it "healthy" or not. So for some, being 100% is healthier.
But you really need to stop. THAT seems to be your main goal and focus here... to stir folks up. Take that somewhere else. If you want to participate on this forum, then do it without all the hidden agenda...if you're here just to cause trouble, then step - 'cause it ain't gonna continue happening here.
You already know what this forum is about and what the main goal of it is, so I don't have to bother pointing you to the mission statement or anything like that.
But there is a certain level of peace we like to keep around here...if you want drama, to question everyone's motives and constant debate, then there are other raw (and other) forums out there that will fill your desires...but RFT is not the place for that.
Conscious Midwife
09-28-2006, 10:11 AM
DITTO Moderator R :D
Ummmmhhhh so are bell peppers veggies cause I like those plain too ;)
Sharon in Colorado
09-28-2006, 10:12 AM
None in particular, just interested to see whether people can actually back up what they say.
Can you answer my question ?
Cherie and Raw Figure said it - nobody needs to back up or prove anything. That is not what we are here for - we don't come on here to convince others of anything.
If you don't like broccoli, then don't eat it. I love greens, celery, many root vegetables and many other vegetables plain. Too many to list.
If you feel the need to drench your vegetables, go ahead. I don't.
Then again, if you are a breatharian, you shouldn't be concerned about eating anyway.
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 10:16 AM
People like what they like and who are you to come and tell people whether or not they salivate over certain (undressed) veggies?
My question about veggies was in response to this:
We do not promote cooking foods (standard american diet), because we prefer to eat raw. If a food is not appealing in it's raw state, you probably should just not eat it. (talk about telling people what to eat ???) Is raw meat appealing? Does it make you salivate? I mean, uncooked with no sauces? NO IT DOES NOT.
Does not the same logic apply to veggies as it does to meat ?
Can anyone honestly tell me that any raw vegetable, on its own, makes their mouth water with anticipation ?
I must say that I do eat 85-90% raw food, it's just that some people's logic puzzles me.
Revvell
09-28-2006, 10:21 AM
I must say that I do eat 85-90% raw food, it's just that some people's logic puzzles me.
... and your problem with that is?
Not to mention, calling oneself a breatharian who eats 85-95% raw puzzles many of us I'm assuming. Either you're a breatharian ~ or, you're not. What's the other 5-15%?
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 10:21 AM
Cherie and Raw Figure said it - nobody needs to back up or prove anything. That is not what we are here for - we don't come on here to convince others of anything.
If you don't like broccoli, then don't eat it. I love greens, celery, many root vegetables and many other vegetables plain. Too many to list.
If you feel the need to drench your vegetables, go ahead. I don't.
Then again, if you are a breatharian, you shouldn't be concerned about eating anyway.
1) You seem to be missing the jist of what I'm trying to get at, read my post above.
2) The breatharian thing is a p!sstake.
Rawkinlocs
09-28-2006, 10:22 AM
My question about veggies was in response to this:
We do not promote cooking foods (standard american diet), because we prefer to eat raw. If a food is not appealing in it's raw state, you probably should just not eat it. (talk about telling people what to eat ???) Is raw meat appealing? Does it make you salivate? I mean, uncooked with no sauces? NO IT DOES NOT.
Does not the same logic apply to veggies as it does to meat ?
Can anyone honestly tell me that any raw vegetable, on its own, makes their mouth water with anticipation ?
I must say that I do eat 85-90% raw food, it's just that some people's logic puzzles me.
And my point to you is that, for some, it does! I mean, not everyone (clearly...myself included) salivates at veggies...but there ARE some who truly do and it's not up to me nor you to tell them they're lying.
Victoria Boutenko even said that after drinking green smoothies for so long, she began to salivate at the sight of greens. Who am I or who is anyone else to tell this woman she's a liar just because it's not OUR experience?
That is my point. Even if the veggies don't make them salivate, there ARE plenty of people who do enjoy eating certain veggies with nothing on them. Heck, I like carrots and celery with nothing on it. My husband used to eat (ironically due to recent events) spinach by the bag a few years back along with slaw mix (cabbage and carrots) by the bag...with NOTHING on it.
But as the person you quoted said, I rarely see anyone who (salivating or not) actually enjoys eating meat (cooked or raw) with no salt, no seasoning, no hot sauce, no...nothing on it. But veggies, even if they don't make us salivate, there are some who do love eating them in plain, natural state.
Revvell
09-28-2006, 10:24 AM
My husband used to eat ...... slaw mix (cabbage and carrots) by the bag...with NOTHING on it.
*salivating* I do that ~ the slaw mix I mean. LOVE IT!!! Nothing on it, right out of the bag.
Revvell
mongomango
09-28-2006, 10:25 AM
I love raw broccoli
and raw cauliflower
raw cabbage
raw beets
raw greens of all kinds,
etc.
Your taste buds change as your body clears itself of toxins. Foods you may have hated in the past begin to taste very good to you. When I first started with raw, wayyyy back in the 80's I went from worse than SAD...I ate fast food for EVERY meal, no joke...and went right into raw 100% because I read a book and I saw it as truth. I hated just about every vegetable except carrots. I love them now. You can believe it or not, but the only way to prove it to yourself is to go raw, 100%..for at least a year. You can rail about whatever you want and p*ss against the wind all you like, but you will never know the truth of the matter regardless of what anyone tells you or what you think yourself unless you do it. So instead of challenging these good folk, and demanding something that they can't possibly give you, why don't you try it for yourself. In fact, here's a fast track for you.
Go to www.sproutpeople.com
Buy their amber waves of grain,
One of their bean mixes (beanie's awesome is a good one)
One of their greens mixes (French Garden is good)
And their long life brassica mix.
Sprout the grains and the beans together, 1/4 cup each and sprout the greens and the brassicas together 2tsp greens, 1/4 tsp brassicas
Eat only that for one month without any dressing.
Eat it 2 or 3 times daily. The beans and grain sprouts give you enough calories, and you will be amazed at how little you need to eat.
And then see what the result is in how your body feels. You want proof, go get it.
Sharon in Colorado
09-28-2006, 10:28 AM
Breatharians really thrive better on fresh air, from what I've heard and read. If this is correct, you may be getting too much recycled air.
Maybe it's a good idea to take a break, take a walk, get in some fresh air, get a hug, pray etc. I think you'll feel better. :)
A healthy lifestyle isn't limited to diet. There are many factors here. Stress and peace of mind play a huge part as well.
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 10:28 AM
Who am I or who is anyone else to tell this woman she's a liar just because it's not OUR experience?
"Is raw meat appealing? Does it make you salivate? I mean, uncooked with no sauces? NO IT DOES NOT."
Not my words.
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 10:33 AM
A healthy lifestyle isn't limited to diet. There are many factors here. Stress and peace of mind play a huge part as well.
No doubt.
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Sharon in Colorado
09-28-2006, 10:33 AM
*salivating* I do that ~ the slaw mix I mean.
Okay which is it Rev, salivating or eating slaw mix? Make up your mind Sheepie! :p
I think there is some importance to salivating. Or maybe drooling. And I'm not talking about nap-drool on your pillow.
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 10:35 AM
Your taste buds change as your body clears itself of toxins.
Is that from experience, hearsay, or do you have any actual evidence to back it up ?
I'd consider myself pretty "clear of toxins" but I could murder a pizza !!
Revvell
09-28-2006, 10:37 AM
Okay which is it Rev, salivating or eating slaw mix? Make up your mind Sheepie! :p
I think there is some importance to salivating. Or maybe drooling. And I'm not talking about nap-drool on your pillow.
Ummmm, both it seems. Well, all three. On the pillow as well dreaming of packaged slaw.
:rolleyes:
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 10:54 AM
... and your problem with that is?
Not really a problem, it's just that I have a strong urge to inform people when they're talking crap!!
Anything wrong with that ?
Isn't that the point of discussion boards - to discuss ???
It'd be rather pointless and boring if everyone just agreed with each other, no ??
Not to mention, calling oneself a breatharian who eats 85-95% raw puzzles many of us I'm assuming. Either you're a breatharian ~ or, you're not. What's the other 5-15%?
Erm... love, light, PEACE, ASCENSION, YIPPEE!!!
(I'm joking if you haven't realised)
Minimum letters, blah, blah
mongomango
09-28-2006, 11:12 AM
Is that from experience, hearsay, or do you have any actual evidence to back it up ?
I'd consider myself pretty "clear of toxins" but I could murder a pizza !!
Experience.
No one is clear of toxins. Even people who's diet is pristine are still loaded with toxins in today's world. But the more carefully you eat, the clearer you get as the food you eat supplies the body with the necessary components to cleanse itself and repair damage done. All food causes damage to your body, and I actually believe that we can become breatharians...the sun gives energy to the plants, and the plants act as a conduit for us for the energy that the sun gives. We would need to find a way to bypass the conduit. There are also the minerals that the plant receives from the earth too..and I haven't given that much thought as I'm spiritually lazy and not even up for taking energy from the sun part...but anyhow, all food causes damage, releases free radicals...and it's a matter of choosing the food that does the least damage while also supplying the antioxidants necessary to combat the free radicals.
As I said, no one can prove this to you. Only you can do that. You can demand your evidence, you can demand proof and explanations, but it's sorta like trying to explain water to someone who's never experienced it. You have to experience it for yourself. So it's up to you. Time to put up or shut up, imo. Either do it, follow a stringent raw diet for a bit and see the changes that take place, or continue to wallow in the mindset of one who needs their hand held. Of course, if you're only here to stir the poo, well... congratulations..you have just wasted my time...and yours. Time is really ALL we have, and it is a foolish thing to waste.
Revvell
09-28-2006, 11:29 AM
Yanno, I thought I knew everything when I was 17 as well ~ and felt I had to keep calling peoples' bs. Now, I mostly don't waste my time ~ unless they're paying me.
Breathy_one ~ nice someone thinks about these things. Thing is, the way you're going about it, you're alienating folk ~ "trying" to make them wrong ~ which means you are "trying" to make yourself right. *shrugs* What to do huh? That's what 17-year olds are apt to do.
Revvell
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 11:33 AM
Experience.
No one is clear of toxins. Even people who's diet is pristine are still loaded with toxins in today's world. But the more carefully you eat, the clearer you get as the food you eat supplies the body with the necessary components to cleanse itself and repair damage done. All food causes damage to your body, and I actually believe that we can become breatharians...the sun gives energy to the plants, and the plants act as a conduit for us for the energy that the sun gives. We would need to find a way to bypass the conduit. There are also the minerals that the plant receives from the earth too..and I haven't given that much thought as I'm spiritually lazy and not even up for taking energy from the sun part...but anyhow, all food causes damage, releases free radicals...and it's a matter of choosing the food that does the least damage while also supplying the antioxidants necessary to combat the free radicals.
As I said, no one can prove this to you. Only you can do that. You can demand your evidence, you can demand proof and explanations, but it's sorta like trying to explain water to someone who's never experienced it. You have to experience it for yourself. So it's up to you. Time to put up or shut up, imo. Either do it, follow a stringent raw diet for a bit and see the changes that take place, or continue to wallow in the mindset of one who needs their hand held. Of course, if you're only here to stir the poo, well... congratulations..you have just wasted my time...and yours. Time is really ALL we have, and it is a foolish thing to waste.
You don't actually buy that breatharian bullsh!t do you ?
<laugh><laugh><laugh>
(why is there no laughing smiley ?)
"Either do it, follow a stringent raw diet for a bit and see the changes that take place, or continue to wallow in the mindset of one who needs their hand held. "
I've already said, I eat 85-90% raw food and feel fine with it, so I have no reason to change.
mongomango
09-28-2006, 11:43 AM
I believe many things are possible Breatharian, perhaps not possible for all people at all times, but possible nonetheless.
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 11:44 AM
Yanno, I thought I knew everything when I was 17 as well ~ and felt I had to keep calling peoples' bs. Now, I mostly don't waste my time ~ unless they're paying me.
Breathy_one ~ nice someone thinks about these things. Thing is, the way you're going about it, you're alienating folk ~ "trying" to make them wrong ~ which means you are "trying" to make yourself right. *shrugs* What to do huh? That's what 17-year olds are apt to do.
Revvell
Are you insinuating that you think I'm 17 ?
Whatever gives you that impression !?
Revvell
09-28-2006, 11:48 AM
Are you insinuating that you think I'm 17 ?
Whatever gives you that impression !?
I'm not "insinuating" X_Minded, I'm saying.
Revvell
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 11:49 AM
I believe many things are possible Breatharian, perhaps not possible for all people at all times, but possible nonetheless.
So do I.
The key word being "many".
And another thing - why would you even want to be a breatharian ?
It's just another form of self-deprivation that so many in religious/ new age circles seem so keen on promoting.
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 11:51 AM
I'm not "insinuating" X_Minded, I'm saying.
X-minded ?
Me ?
Get out!!!
Revvell
09-28-2006, 11:54 AM
X-minded ?
Me ?
Get out!!!
Yeah, that's what he says.
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 11:56 AM
Yeah, that's what he says.
What ?
That he's not himself ??
Strange character!!
Revvell
09-28-2006, 11:59 AM
http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/search.php?searchid=574226
Like many other "auto immune" conditions as candida falls into......
the leaky gut is the culrpit......
Heal the stomach lining--takes about 10 days
10 days ? Get out - I've been trying for two years.
Revvell
09-28-2006, 12:00 PM
Strange character!!
Yes, you are.
Revvell
mongomango
09-28-2006, 12:02 PM
So do I.
The key word being "many".
And another thing - why would you even want to be a breatharian ?
It's just another form of self-deprivation that so many in religious/ new age circles seem so keen on promoting.
LOL!
I am not new age, but I am a christian.
Why would I want to be a breatharian? My goodness!
Why would I want my survival to be dependant upon food? If there was a way that I could be healthy without it, I would certainly be interested in it from a self sufficiency standpoint.
It is also a less harmful existence.
As for self deprivation, you are deceived, lol. The purpose of food is not to titillate my taste buds and give me enjoyment..altho that is a nice benefit. The purpose of food is to maintain my body's healthful condition. Taste should not even factor into that.
It is you who is practicing self deprivation with a pizza or other cooked foods. You are depriving yourself of greater health and well being. We practice a kind of madness and self deception every day...along with self deprivation... when we do things counter to our well being. And then we reverse it and say that those who do things for their well being are practicing self deprivation. This is a world of deception, it helps to break things down into their most basic components to see the truth! Although at 17 I guess that's not a lot of fun, eh? (more deception!) ;)
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 12:03 PM
http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/search.php?searchid=574226
I didn't know that there's only one person in the world that uses the phrase "get out" !?
Revvell
09-28-2006, 12:11 PM
I didn't know that there's only one person in the world that uses the phrase "get out" !?
But only one person uses the same isp.
....and, you've not denied it outright.
Revvell
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 12:15 PM
LOL!
I am not new age, but I am a christian.
Why would I want to be a breatharian? My goodness!
Why would I want my survival to be dependant upon food? If there was a way that I could be healthy without it, I would certainly be interested in it from a self sufficiency standpoint.
It is also a less harmful existence.
As for self deprivation, you are deceived, lol. The purpose of food is not to titillate my taste buds and give me enjoyment..altho that is a nice benefit. The purpose of food is to maintain my body's healthful condition. Taste should not even factor into that.
It is you who is practicing self deprivation with a pizza or other cooked foods. You are depriving yourself of greater health and well being. We practice a kind of madness and self deception every day...along with self deprivation... when we do things counter to our well being. And then we reverse it and say that those who do things for their well being are practicing self deprivation. This is a world of deception, it helps to break things down into their most basic components to see the truth! Although at 17 I guess that's not a lot of fun, eh? (more deception!) ;)
When did I say I eat pizza ? I said I'd like to.
The cook foods I eat are fairly healthy - i.e steamed veg.
How is that self deprivation ?
"The purpose of food is not to titillate my taste buds and give me enjoyment..altho that is a nice benefit. The purpose of food is to maintain my body's healthful condition. Taste should not even factor into that. "
Maybe that's your reason, who's to say other people can't have other reasons for eating ? Maybe some people don't consider maintaining a 100% perfect diet their number one aim in life, and they think they can be perfectly healthy without it. A lot of the times the stress that comes with trying to perfect your diet is far more damaging than the food itself.
Also, you may want to look further into those who promote such bizarre concepts as breatharianism, and their reasons behind it. A lot of these people be cultish.
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 12:19 PM
But only one person uses the same isp.
....and, you've not denied it outright.
Revvell
Jeez, somebody's done their homework !!
I never knew you were so interested in my escapades !!
mongomango
09-28-2006, 12:21 PM
lol...I didn't mention anyone's reasons. We all have reason's for eating as we do. I said the *purpose* of eating. We can all find reasons to eat any way that we want, just as people can find reasons for doing any number of things that are detrimental to themselves.
I am not in any danger of being hoodwinked by a cult, but thank you for your concern!
imported_X_MiNdeD
09-28-2006, 12:28 PM
BREATHARIANS CAN DO IT ALL
A breatharian is someone who gets all of their nourishment from air and light(love). A few thousand strong, worldwide, they are forerunners of what all of us will one day become -an immortal and self-sustaining humanity. When you stop polluting your body with food and drink a cleansing and healing process takes place restoring you from the animal state(anything that eats or has sex) to your original divine or angelic state(non-eating/non-copulating). In this pristine and higher vibratory state, all of your powers are augmented tenfold, and you become a superhumam; your thought processes become computer-like, your psychic senses unfold, and you will have enough strength to lift ten times your own weight. You will require little or no sleep and will easily resist extremes in temperature. You will never get sick and will have stopped or even reversed the aging process. Perhaps best of all, you will always be happy and confident and clear as to who you are or where you are going in life. While not everyone can become a breatharian just yet, it will become an increasing trend in this 21st century. Breatharians can do it all! Important note: Never try to become a breatharian in a cold, polluted, or negative environment, or if you are on medication, or are seriously handicapped or limited in some way.
TOXICITY CAUSES SLEEP AND TIREDNESS
We were not meant to sleep or get tired. In its original and untampered state the human body is a ceaseless dynamo of energy and activity. Only when we began eating, and eating badly, did we become slow and lethargic. This in turn led to the polluting of our environment. Much of our energy is spent eliminating all of the poisons we eat, drink, breathe, or absorb on a daily basis, and the best way for the body to do this is to put you to sleep so it can do its work uninterrupted. We're not even supposed to be in the sitting position or touching the ground with our feet. At full power, your aura or energy field lifts you a foot or two off the ground and you hover about as Adam did before his fall. When he began to pollute his body with food, this light or energy field almost shut down and he fell into a sleep. Sleep allows us to recover from our daily sins or indulgences and saves us from certain death. Sleep is in fact a temporary form of death. The fact that we recover at all is testimony to the body's remarkable resiliency.
INNER HEAT IS THE KEY TO HEALING
All healing occurs when there is an abundance of the life force flowing within us which is generally quick-moving, bright and hot. The less physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual impediments there are in the person, the faster the flow and the brighter or hotter the life force will be, burning all the dross or excess in the being which can develop into disease or give discomfort. If the heat is strong enough, it can actually meld broken bones or damaged tissue back into place almost immediately. Natural healers do this by concentrating their heat or energy in their hands, and then passing them over the blocked or afflicted areas. All blockages, whether they be physical, mental, emotional, or spiritual, slow down the life force which condenses itself as our blood. Sin is a cold force which contracts and stifles, as water does when it turns into ice. Living a simple, clean, natural, and ethical lifestyle is the key to generating enough heat and energy to heal you or keep you free of almost any disease or imfirmity. The two most powerful methods of self-healing or empowerment are fasting and prayer/meditation.
SEX IS AN INTOXICATED STATE
Sex is the natural result of an intoxicated state. A diet rich in meats and delicacies and wine and liquor and sweets will go a long way in bringing the sensual beast out of any teen or adult. This is because all of these foods are highly stimulating and intoxicating, as well as highly chemicalized, lowering the mental and spiritual vibrations and giving way to base or carnal desires. Of course, some of us are more naturally susceptible to sensuality than others(Capricorn and Scorpio rising signs are the champs), but in general, rich(chemicalized)foods=sex. Fruit, on the other hand, is the highest vibration food there is, and tests have shown that an exclusive diet of fruit will greatly diminish or even fully negate your desire for sex.
FOOD AND SEX
Food(drinking included) and sex are two of the greatest pleasures of man/woman, yet at the same time they are also two of our greatest destroyers. Eating starts the degeneration process which leads to sex, and finally death. Sex or reproduction is how the species attempts to save itself from extinction. The more unnatural or chemicalized our diets are -the earlier we start the death process and the earlier we become sexual beings. Due to our increasingly artificial diets and environments, adolescent and even pre-adolescent sex is becoming more common all the time. The first orgasm is said to release the death hormone in the body and the age at which it occurs, multiplied by 5.1, often determines the lifespan. The long-lived pre-flood patriarchs didn't generally marry or have sex before reaching the century mark because they were basically fruitarian and lived in a paradisical environment. Even today, a fruit diet in warm climes will retard aging and sexuality. Unless they're eunuchs, anyone who lives and eats in our modern society and says they've never had any sexual urges is a hypocrite and a liar. Food and sex are inseparable. Eating is in fact a kind of sex and vice versa. In sex, however, we do not go all the way like some of the dracs and "eat" or consume our partner. This actually makes sex less evil or sinful than the eating process itself. Both food and sex bring about sleep which is a temporary form of death. Sleep allows us to recover from the debilitating effects of both food and sex.
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The truth!!!!
:D :D :D
Rawkinlocs
09-28-2006, 12:29 PM
X-Breatharian-Minded,
No, not everyone here is always in full agreement about all things (that is evident many times in many threads) but you are not the resident "BS-Police"...we don't want nor need one here.
I will reiterate what I said to you before... if your primary reason for being here is to start sh*t and nit-pick with every person you "think" is talking BS or what have you, then you can pack your knapsack and go play someplace else, hon.
If you are going to be a part of this forum then don't let your main focus be to call yourself calling people out on things. Offer some information and/or advise and support for a change rather than throwing people's comments back up into their faces with your snide sarcasm.
I understand (some of) the points you try to convey, but the way in which you do it is becoming quite annoying and borderline rude and obnoxious.
mongomango
09-28-2006, 12:37 PM
hmm, well I don't believe all the postulates put forth in that c/p, however, I do believe it is possible for us to exist without eating. Obviously a child must eat or they will starve, so for them to say that eating brought us to a place of diminished energy cannot be correct as we start out eating from neccessity. I believe it to be after much work on oneself that it may be possible to forgo eating and even then to be difficult to accomplish because eating is an ingrained habit in us.
All food really is, is energy. Think of this rock we live on spinning in space and the energy that is generated by that..of all the energy from the sun...the energy is there for the taking, we just have to learn how.
imported_X_MiNdeD
09-28-2006, 12:38 PM
X-Breatharian-Minded,
No, not everyone here is always in full agreement about all things (that is evident many times in many threads) but you are not the resident "BS-Police"...we don't want nor need one here.
I will reiterate what I said to you before... if your primary reason for being here is to start sh*t and nit-pick with every person you "think" is talking BS or what have you, then you can pack your knapsack and go play someplace else, hon.
If you are going to be a part of this forum then don't let your main focus be to call yourself calling people out on things. Offer some information and/or advise and support for a change rather than throwing people's comments back up into their faces with your snide sarcasm.
I understand (some of) the points you try to convey, but the way in which you do it is becoming quite annoying and borderline rude and obnoxious.
Okay my friend, we'll play nice from now on :D
Rawkinlocs
09-28-2006, 12:42 PM
Okay my friend, we'll play nice from now on :D
Yeah, we'll see...we'll see...
Stilleto, I am SO sorry your thread has been hi-jacked, turned inside out and all jacked up!
Hopefully from here it can/will get back on track for you!
mongomango
09-28-2006, 12:45 PM
Oh yes! Stiletto I apologize for my part in the thread drift! I completely got lost in the drift and please forgive me for helping to move it away from your purpose. I'm sorry!
The_Breatharian_One
09-28-2006, 12:45 PM
BREATHARIANISM
What do you think about breatharianism? There is an interview with a person who claims to live on nothing but air and distilled water!
ANSWER: There are a lot of people claiming a lot of crazy things! Personally, my experience with these so-called breatharians has not proven me that living on nothing but air and water is a possibility.
I believe it's possible for a person to get to a state where they actually need to consume very little food, but I don't believe this is a healthy practice, nor that it is possible to actually live on air.
I meant my first breatharian in California about 7 years ago, and the person in question is probably the most famous breatharian at the moment.
She seemed frail and was actually fighting a cold when I met her. She got paid pretty decent money (over $5000) to give a one-day talk on living on light, with all expense paid. She had just bought a new house and seemed to be doing well being a breatharian guru.
I was pretty shocked when she said that this lifestyle was great for teenagers because with all the money they saved by not eating, they could spend more on clothes!
The whole thing seemed pretty ludicrous, especially when she revealed actually eating chocolate cookies, tea with soy milk, pasteurized orange juice and other non-foods just for the taste and not for the nutrition.
My belief is that these breatharians simply get by with eating very little, but eventually, all of them end up eating.
This famous breatharian has actually accepted in 1999 to be challenged by Australia's 60 Minutes. She was willing to not eat and drink for one week to prove her methods.
After just a few days, she became severely dehydrated, listless and gaunt, and lost a tremendous amount of weight. She experiment was aborted for health reasons.
The breatharian of course blamed it on polluted air that prevented her from getting the nutrients. What a joke.
I also met another famous breatharian, actually probably the most famous of all, Wiley Brooks. He greeted me like this, Hi, I'm Wiley Brooks, the breatharian.
From what I gathered from people who knew him personally, Wiley has no problem eating a hamburger once in a while, and was actually caught more than once entering a fast food joint.
He claims that this food is simply to fulfill his need for pleasure and taste and is not what keeps him alive.
To finish the topic, I know several people have died when trying to become breatharians. Closer to me, I have met several people who have gone to these extremes of purity in their diet, and one of them actually died.
In my opinion, breatharianism is a complete fraud and anyone promoting this idea should really look at the potential harm it's doing to its followers.
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Another thing is that when you say food = toxic, people then think more food = more toxic, so they then feel guilty for eating, end up eating very little, therefore malnourished, etc.
imported_X_MiNdeD
09-28-2006, 12:47 PM
Breatharianism is the truth baby!!!
One piece of fruit a day should suffice, for now :D
imported_X_MiNdeD
09-28-2006, 12:48 PM
Yeah, we'll see...we'll see...
You know me baby :D
Lay-Lay
09-28-2006, 01:06 PM
Hello everyone!!
I'm really new to raw foods.... I'm a vegetarian trying to incorporate more raw foods inmy diet little by little....
How can you eat raw sweet potatoes or potatoes???? doesn't give you stomachache????? I would be very afraind to try this as I have mild IBS...
Has anyone have problems with eating raw sweet potatoes or potatoes?
they give me a bad stomache. Even dehydrated. I just avoid them.
Gosia
09-28-2006, 05:10 PM
40-year-olds never feel insulted when being called 17-year-old (you can call me that any time :D). 17-year-olds do though.
Quote (I wrote it myself, a minute ago, ha ha ha!):
"Who do you want to be in your life: a passenger or a driver? A passenger asks for a proof and waits for others to sort the things for them. A driver finds the answers herself/himself."
Gosia
KindnessToAllCreatures
10-01-2006, 10:49 PM
40-year-olds never feel insulted when being called 17-year-old (you can call me that any time ). 17-year-olds do though.
Terrific insight, Gosia... How true it is!
"Who do you want to be in your life: a passenger or a driver? A passenger asks for a proof and waits for others to sort the things for them. A driver finds the answers herself/himself."
Love the quote! :)
eatyourbroccoli
10-01-2006, 10:55 PM
ive added a lot of cinnamon and vanilla to everything i make. seems to warm it up. ive also been using more honey and flax and oil to make everything more dense. this has helped me a lot.
good luck with whatever you decide is best for you
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