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09-24-2006, 11:38 AM
juicefasting & Bowl Movements numbers... ?
Dear forum, I was wondering, I am juicefasting right now, and I searched
with the banana-function on " Fasting & Bowl Movements" and I did found
that it is normal to have less BM while fasting, but it didn't explain which kind of fasting, so I am happy if you have ideas on the following:
- What is a normal Bowl Movement Tempo (numbers) while juicefasting[/B]?
(one a day, once in two days, once in 3 days...?)
- If one is below the normal tempo, should one take stuff like "psyllium"
to strengthen the movements, or just keep going without it and trust on the body?
Many thanks, LL
09-24-2006, 12:35 PM
I have had this discussion with others on another board. As far as I know, there is no "normal" rythm for bowel movements, regardless of your current diet. What you should be concerned about is if you have irregularly textured bowel movements, are becoming constipated, etc. I wouldn't worry about taking any supplements unless you are experiencing ill side effects such as pain, hardening of stool, etc.
09-24-2006, 12:47 PM
during fasting, your giestive system is shutting down and there is no "bulk" to give you consistent BM's so decrease is expected. However, some will experience "enhancedment" of their bowels while fasting b/c of cleansing,repairing .....all in all, it is very normal to have less if not none. During the different stages of fasting, you may experience an oset of sudden bm's--that is normal too.
Some don't believe in using an eliminator while fasting but personally, as toxins are drawn down to the colon, I like the idea of extracting them out thru home enemas. so there is increase in blood flood (that is neccessary for functions) I don't believe in laxative teas like senna.
09-24-2006, 01:01 PM
Miss Linda, you always are there when needed: female cavalry!
I am on day 4 now of juicing, and my BM-ratio = 1/4
* I am wondering if you, with your expericence, believe in psyllium-fibre, while fasting?
Also I like to add a drop of citrus-essential oil to my Mastercleanjuice, these are lifting the taste, your whole glass is flowering (lemon-, red mandarin-, green mandarin-, bergamot- or clementineoil or even a drop pepermintoil).
* Have you ever used these oils while fasting?
Good spirits to you and your fasting :)
09-25-2006, 11:07 PM
Lightlover, my good friend,
I read your other post earlier today and pondered. My answers are simply my own opnions drawn by reading,experience and trial&error--not intended to be the "right" answer......
IMPO,I don't like the idea of ingesting psysillium husk b/c it is a fiberous bulking agent and the digestive system that has been dormant, I feel is then "shocked" by this agressive presence. To me, that is harsh.
Mmmmmmmmm essential oils......I love the food gradeable ones (Oshadhi) but I have never used them while fasting. I wanna think about this one over nite.
Please share your experience with fasting with essential oils in your juice. :)
09-26-2006, 03:54 AM
Hi Dear Linda, always nice to see you always changing face around!
I think you have also read my thread
"Fasting and cleanse and insoluble fiber" ?
** After I have written the thread you are reading right now, I found out that psyllium is soluble fiber, and soluble fiber is not my current problem, because I think I am detoxing enough, no what I did not point at is that I really need insoluble fiber, which sweeps the intestines and moves
everything to the "exit"
** It's now day 6 of my juicefasting and till now just 1 BW.
So this morning I did take 2 tablespoons of chiaseed (soaked one night)
which is very high in insoluble fiber, and I will do this every morning
** I will write in this thread my coming experiences with this seed
- I take the essential oil just for the taste, it's difficult to say if there are any effects.
Ciao, LL :D
09-26-2006, 10:30 AM
Wowsers. Psyllium husk is actuallly both insoluble and soluble fiber as I just read. I guess by the texture, I usually see it as fiberous.
I take it you are not big on enemas or teas for elimination?
I suppose I see the husk and other "fiberous" means as [food] which to me, hinders the principe of fasting (abstaining from food).
The essential oil idea is interesting......i'll have to read up more on it.
09-26-2006, 11:38 AM
~~ I did read it in a reply from "askcassyfirst" that psyllium is 90% soluble and takes up tp 40 times its wight in water... (see below) so good for detoxification, but not so for brushing in the intestins.
( I started to document the most important foodfacts, because
somtimes you can't remember these, and the rawfood books are not so complete with basic info)
~~ I do use tea now, (yogi tea, the "detox tea": I can't buy the tea that you are using Linda ("fasting tea")
~~ most delicate taste of essentail oils has "clementine oil" ("citus deliciosa")
~~ I agree that husks and so are food and effecting the fastingresults.
So is it an idea to take flaxseed or chiaseed a few days before the fast begins, instead of while fasting ?
I am not a big fan of psyllium...I recommend Flax Fiber. That is because flax is almost a 50-50 blend of soluble to insoluble fiber. (meaning it will both absorb water & toxins creating bulk from the soluble, as well as provide roughage with the insoluble.) Psyllium is actually 90% soluble, so it can absorb up to 40 times its weight in water...and can actually gel inside your bowels causing dehydration from the swelling. (It can be taken safely, but it is not so easy.) Psyllium is known for being a cheap source of fiber, since it is not cost effective to grow organically. Many companies will use it to "bulk up" a fiber product. I think it is possible to use, but I don't advocate it. Try mixing some in a glass of water and let it sit for a bit...you can actually watch it gel and thicken into sludge rather than a soft gel like flax does. (That is why soluable fiber is used in recipes to thicken stuff.)
Glad to be of assistance. Anytime.
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