Fall Equinox Fasting Spet 23rd 2006

[misslinda]

New season starts Sept 23rd.

Fall is here

and so is another fasting ---on juices/water.


OMG, I cannot stand the sight of food right now......I want to gauge everytime my mouth chews. Anyone who would like to join the transition into Fall, is more than welcome.

I would love to hear your ideas and what you intend to fast on....... :)


My plan
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First 3 days only lemon water until 5 pm and then last juice of celery,apple and parsley.

First 3 days of AM enema (using grapefruit/lemon and powder magnesium).

Day 4 Water until noon and then light green with apple, last juice lemon water

[livingatthetop]

why do you fast so much?

[misslinda]

why do you fast so much?


and here I thought I was gonna have company :rolleyes: :D

LATT, I begun the last one but couldn't make it thru then I had the horsey slip........plus I still have these swollen salivary glands from over a year ago and it makes me feel like I'm choking---. I want to get this done and over with. Wanna join?? :D in other words,,,,,,,,



I'M DESPERATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[PDMagnusen]

misslinda, I'm so glad you sent this post! I'm in! :D
I will probably start on a water fast the first few days, then green juice (cucumbers, kale, celery, parsley). I'm looking forward to it!

[livingatthetop]

fasting never works for me. Because I am bipolar and after the third day it washes out my meds and i am feeling the symptoms of my illness.

So Misslinda althouth I would like to fast I will not try it until I wean off of my meds completly.

However it seems to be working for you but be careful as you know.

But I believe that rawfood is a gentle fast that works best for me.

[livingatthetop]

You are gourges

[PDMagnusen]

Oh, thank you SO much. I really appreciate the compliment! You are very beautiful as well. :)

[misslinda]

You are gourges


I was just going to say the same thing....PDM, you are VERY GORGEOUS.......WOW!

LATT, I wish I could stay just eating raw but every time I eat, my glands swell up more, I feel uck, flu like everyday---so this is my last hope! :)

PDM, thank you for joining.....I'm excited and looking forward to new fall changes :)

[PDMagnusen]

Aww...thanks, misslinda. You are one of my favorite 'hotties' on this forum! :D

Yes, I'm excited too! Do you have a timeframe for which you plan to fast, or just planning to take it day by day?

[Rainbow]

Hi Misslinda,

I hear you! I am on my second month of juice fasting. I am feeling healing day by day. From today, it is the first day of fasting of Hundu (My idea colleague told me) and tomorrow is the first day of Ramada. It is really good time to do cleaning. One of my friend was forced by body to do fasting. Because he cannot digest anything only some fruits for already more than two weeks. I believe our body need fasting during this period.

Misslinda, like you I did many fasts this year. Only when we fast, our bodies can have energy to heal what it should heal.

I am reaching the point that I feel the juice is so thick to me. I almost force myself to drink everyday. Do you think it is a signal that body told me to do water fasting. I have never done water fasting. I remember you switched from juice to water once. I believe I should do so. If you have any good suggestion, let me know.

I pray for you Misslinda always, for you to reach your optimal health to enjoy
what we God give us.

Peace, love and blessing to you!!! :)

[MagicalDaze]

Misslinda, I would love to join in on this - only problem is, I have a lot of greens & fruit on hand that I really don't want to waste...... so I thought maybe I could do a "liquids only" type fast, including green smoothies for a few days, then continuing with water & juices - does that count?!

I did a 3 week juice fast in the spring, and I feel like I should have continued for awhile longer. I've been thinking I'd like to do some more fasting before the weather gets cold....... and the changing of the seasons feels like a perfect time!

Rainbow - congrats on being into your second month! That's impressive!!

[Mary]

I would also like to do a cleansing fast to begin fall. I've been 100% raw for almost 3 months now, but still feel like I need to do a deep cleanse to help me progress in feeling better and weight loss.

How do you recommend starting? I'm a bit concerned about doing an extended fast, as I have two disabled children and have to keep my energy up.

Would it be safe to start with blended drinks, like smoothies and then move to juices and water only, or should I just go for it?

What juices are particularly energizing so that I can keep moving? I am thinking of doing it for at least a week, but haven't done this before.

Please give me some tips when you have the chance.

Thanks!

Mary

[Day Dreaming Renee']

I am with you MissLinda! This is my sixth day on the MC (Master Cleanse) and I have released 12.5 pounds thus far! I am so excited. My co-workers think that I am crazy and told me yesterday that I had been on the MC long enough. They have wonerful intentions but they also think going Raw is pretty nutty so what can I expect. I have a long abusive life with food and I long to exist in a place where I get to live and not live to eat. Before I started this fast 7 days ago I ordered a large pie and I consumed it all and that was just the last meal of the day and I had plenty of other crap earlier in the day as I went to a street festval where I live in NYC. That was yet another dark day in my life and I pray that I am beginning to put those demons behind me.
Since this is only my secnd fast I am taking one day at a time but my goal is to 10, 15 or 20 days. :eek:



Start weight 230 1 /2
current weight 218

[Day Dreaming Renee']

I would also like to do a cleansing fast to begin fall. I've been 100% raw for almost 3 months now, but still feel like I need to do a deep cleanse to help me progress in feeling better and weight loss.

How do you recommend starting? I'm a bit concerned about doing an extended fast, as I have two disabled children and have to keep my energy up.

Would it be safe to start with blended drinks, like smoothies and then move to juices and water only, or should I just go for it?

What juices are particularly energizing so that I can keep moving? I am thinking of doing it for at least a week, but haven't done this before.

Please give me some tips when you have the chance.

Thanks!

Mary
Congrats Mary!
You are doing an excellent job! I can't offer any sound advice to you, as I too am very new to this. There is a MC book; very thin about 50 pages ($6.50) that I made copies from a friend maybe this can begin to help you. Honestly I feel that I want to eat food all the time on this fast and I do feel week a good amount of time. On the other hand, I am a closet eater that will order food and sit in my bed and eat large pizza pies with Ben and Jerry's ice cream and do it all over the next day. So I realize that I have probably stretched my stomach way out and it may take some time for me to not want to eat a lot. Whenever I am hungry I just make another lemonade. The MC consists of 12 ounces of purified water, 2 tablespoons of lemon, 2 tablespoons of Maple B syrup and a pinch of cayenne pepper. I also try to drink a lot of water as well. After the fast I plan to go Raw for 30 days but I am just concerned with the Raw Recipes I have yet to make one that I am really crazy about resides Almond Milk and Cereal. I have tired sun burgers, chicken fingers with BBQ sauce and a raw tuna (I think) and they did not come out that great. Any advice in that area-making the food taste good? I follow the recipes to a t and I don’t know they don’t taste edible and I am using Alissa’s book. I have a Breville Juice, Food Processor and of course a dehydrator.
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[misslinda]

Good morning Fall Fasting Friends!

WOW, what an exciting vibrant groupie we have here!!!! :) :) :)

I have to leave here so I'll answer any of the questions when I get back.......

I'm shooting for 21 days so I can tackle the brain healing :rolleyes:

For those that have concerns for energy levels or fear related to lack of food, by all means, don't feel bad with having smoothies as your "fasting plan." The only reason why I would discourage it, is b/c fasting on water or juices is a time to abstain from food which allows your digestive system to rest and divert all it's enzymes towards healing.......

This time around, I am going to keep Gabriel Cousens words to heart---combining regular fasting and spiritual fasting.....



excerpt:
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According to Dr. Cousens, . . . fasting in a larger context, means to abstain from that which is toxic to mind, body, and soul. A way to understand this is that fasting is the elimination of physical, emotional, and mental toxins from our organism, rather than simply cutting down on or stopping food intake. Fasting for spiritual purposes usually involves some degree of removal of oneself from worldly responsibilities. It can mean complete silence and social isolation during the fast which can be a great revival to those of us who have been putting our energy outward.

end of article.
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I anyone needs a run down on fasting and guidelines, here it is

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13308

[MagicalDaze]

Hi, everyone! Misslinda: "I'm shooting for 21 days so I can tackle the brain healing" - can U please explain this? Very curious......

Mary - feel free to join me in easing into the fast: I will be including green smoothies for 2 or 3 days since I have a ton of food on hand......... last spring when I did a juice fast I actually did a few days of green smoothies beforehand as a gentle transition so that it was less of a shock to my system - I feel like it is a nice way to ease into it.

Juice fasting doesn't drain your energy like water fasting does. From my understanding water fasting is best done when U are able to really do nothing but rest in bed. I think most people find a juice fast to be energizing. Unfortunately I am a very low-energy person (adrenal issues) and my energy seems to stay the same whether eating high raw, all raw, or juicing... even 4+ months @ 100% raw has not increased my energy - so I still have that to look forward to! But when I did 2 days of water fasting (after 18 days of water & diluted juice) I could barely even walk around the house & was completely wiped. So even starting with a low-energy person, just small amounts of juice & water didn't lower energy - if that's any help! (long explanation!)

[misslinda]

Hi, everyone! Misslinda: "I'm shooting for 21 days so I can tackle the brain healing" - can U please explain this? Very curious......





Hey Magical,

My last post has a link to the general chronology of healing during fasting. Scroll down to day 20 or 21 and it talks about healing on the brain level.

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Lemon water

Penta

Went for a 2 hour walk/prayer.

drank 64 oz Penta water

Incredible release on left side with lots of pain,discomfort and breathing changes.

Did deep breathing and got some release. Lots of dialogue between left lower stomach area and shoulder.

[misslinda]

Hi Misslinda,




I am reaching the point that I feel the juice is so thick to me. I almost force myself to drink everyday. Do you think it is a signal that body told me to do water fasting. I have never done water fasting. I remember you switched from juice to water once. I believe I should do so. If you have any good suggestion, let me know.

I pray for you Misslinda always, for you to reach your optimal health to enjoy
what we God give us.

Peace, love and blessing to you!!! :)

Rainbow !!! My fasting buddy, long time no talk! I know what you mean, I had to go away from eating food b/c even biting into an apple made me want to throw up. Nothing taste good. If you feel juice is too think, try to water fast hour by hour. Always prayers to you my good friend. :)

[misslinda]

Hey Friends,

Here is an idea of what I am doing :D Today was weird detox up until 2 pm. Managed to do a mile of running. I figure since it is the first day, I can get some cardio in. :)

[MagicalDaze]

Thanks forthe reply misslinda - appreciate it. Wow - U go girl! U really accomplished a lot today!

I won't be participating this time after all........... all the food in my kitchen is practically screaming at me: "not a good time for a fast!" But I wish U all a magnificent fasting journey, & hopefully I'll catch ya another time around!

[PDMagnusen]

Hi, everyone. The first day of my water fast was tough. My boyfriend and I attended a wedding tonight so I was stuck looking at food most of the night. I went for a 3 mile run when I woke up which felt great, but I think I'm done with the running until after my fast. I do plan to do some walking, though. :)

[misslinda]

I hear ya PDM, I did cardio the first day just to rev it up but by tomorrow our BP will drop so we'll definately enjoy our brisk walks and yoga :)

Good for you for not caving into the food! ;)

[Rainbow]

Hi everyone,

I am very happy to visit this site to see so many high spirit in juice/water fasting in this transition period.

This morning, I had very bad smelly urine and elimated some hard stuff. My energy is very good and I am feeling better day by day.
Misslinda, thanks for your reply. I will start to do water fast hour by hour to see how it goes. Are you reading " concious eating"?

For those who are concerned about extended fast on juice, I know a person called LivingWater in other forum, She fasted for 145 days on juice. She is the longest days I have ever known.
blessing to you all,

[misslinda]

I had yurination all night....didn't get much sleep ;)

Rainbow, 145 days !!!!!!!!!!! I'm shooting for no more than 30 days but I'll see how I feel at day 21. How bout you? How is your psoriasis?

:)

[meinleben]

doug grahams opinion on fasting is:

fast as long as necessary, and as short as possible......

i love that, it totally makes sense to me....

[Rainbow]

Hi Misslinda,

I wish you go through well for first 3 days of fasting. I know that is the toughest time.

I can regards myself on day 37 now. It is going well. I have experienced cleaning and healing cycles a lot on the spine and uterus. I wish to clear up this through this fast.

I am reading her 105-days fasting blog now. This is very inspring and encouraging. Her blog is the real guidance for me to go extended fast. I am not afraid if someone say it is dangous to do such a long. I said I know someone who did 145-days. :D.
I now read her blog everyday to get more guidance.. amazing, wonderful.

Check here:
http://curezone.com/blogs/f.asp?f=598


blessing you and all,

[Rainbow]

Misslinda, I forgot to tell you my psoriasis.
I disappears almost. Only very tine of bit (size of rice) on the elbow. i am confident that it will go when liver is totally cleaned.

I drink two watermelon juice. Feel good.

Wish you well and keep strong,

[Ginger]

Can I just jump in & post my fasting experiance so far? So neat to know I have company! I started my fast on Sept. 22nd equinox & plan to go till the harvest moon on my birthday Oct. 6th! I have been keeping it in my journal here (page 8 & 9) and so far have been drinking water only.

[misslinda]

Can I just jump in & post my fasting experiance so far? So neat to know I have company! I started my fast on Sept. 22nd equinox & plan to go till the harvest moon on my birthday Oct. 6th! I have been keeping it in my journal here (page 8 & 9) and so far have been drinking water only.


Yipeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! WOW, I have yet to gravitate toward water only. I'm in awe of you RVM!

PDM, how are you doing?

Rainbow, I read her blog. She kinda scares me--3 different types of eliminator in a week timefrane and post fast, she ate SAD. :eek: that can cause SHOCK (death even) to the body for fasting that long by eating like that all of a sudden. I think she has over 200 pds to lose b/c even at 145 days, her main goal was weight---that is a recipe for bad habits.......yo-yo fasting. I wish her well. I read some other ones and same thing......yo yo fasting--really dangerous to the digestive system.

I really like to think about Grabriel Cousens when fasting.......be away from everthing and clear the body and mind. Today, I avoided people, I didn't want to be stimualted of feelings and outside emotions. I want to develop and release what is within me already. Usually by day 12, I am on another planet :p

[Ginger]

This fast, so far i'm only on my 3rd day, has been incredible! I so do not even feel like i'm fasting! I excercise everyday on my elyptical & ab-lounge & now also do yoga in the evening. I was out & about all morning today. I seriously don't feel like i'm fasting & especially water fasting! This is my first fast that I actually started out on water only. Normally I do about 3 days of juice fasting & lead into water only. But even then I will have lemon or spearamint in the water. Not this time. I find to make water fasting a bit more interesting I eat ice or make hot 'tea' with no tea bag lol! I also make ice popsicles for fun too!

[Shan]

Hi Everyone!

Hope things are going well for you all on your fast. It sounds like everyone's doing great!

I'm on day 10 of a 30 day juice fast (although if I get to day 30 and think I can manage it, I'm going to try for 40 days. I'll see how I feel). Things are going well. The first three days were a nightmare. I've never had such a bad yeast infection.... talk about PAINFUL. It still hasn't gone away, but it's not so uncomfortable. I keep wanting to only water fast, but I end up feeling so terrible by the end of the day I give in and have a glass of juice. It's just too hard to feel so terrible when I still have my daily responsibilities. I hope I get through at least thirty days... I'm already starting to obsessively think of food and what I'm going to eat after the fast. The weightloss is keeping me going- I've lost 15 pounds in 10 days which I'm happy about.

Good luck everyone!

[PDMagnusen]

Hi, everyone! misslinda, thanks for checking in on me. Day 2 was much better than Day 1. I spent most of my day doing things around the house. I also took some time to meditate. I'm feeling good :). How are you???

[misslinda]

Greetingz Fellow Fasters.....

Rawveganmom, I'm doing alot let juice and more water this time around although the last extensive fast I did, I wheened into water only fast......I've managed to do all water until 2-3 pm and then detox hits me hard. I hope to hear more about your detox....

Shan, great to have you and Yippe on day 10!

PDM, great to hear day 2 shining for you !!!!! Is this your first time water fasting??

The reason I cannot water fast alone, is my detox gets so intense, I feel like I am having a hysteria, my blood rushes, I feel like I am dying so I do lite celery and apple by 5 pm.........my former ND says it may have something to do with history of extreme blood sugar abuse in the past.

Today was chronically up and down....every minute changed with detox. I look forward to that day when the "doors of enlightenment" illuminate that glowful feeling.......

;)

[PATH301]

misslinda and everybody else,
Does this artcle fall in line with this fast and meditaion and any type of auxillary feelings or sensations that you all may be experiencing? :
http://www.religioustolerance.org/fall_equinox.htm

[Angeline]

I don't have much experience in fasting, but I had a dream on Thursday the 21st and then Friday the 22nd that I was being instructed on how to fast. I started on the morning of the 22nd with carrot, celery and tomatoe juice. I think I want to experiment with green juices during this week. I plan to listen to what my body is telling me and quit fasting when it wants to. I'm a little afraid of the detox I've read about, but I think the end results will outweigh whatever I have to go through.

Peace be to all of you.

[misslinda]

Angeline, great to have you for fall fasting!

Path, I'm read the article. I don't have religious rituals to the Fall Equinox but I simply honor it as another transition from one season to another---entailing change in diet,body organ transition,change in goals,hope and dreams etc.......a kind of spiritual/cultural awarenss in [my] life. I don't want to speak for anyone but that is my take.

;)

[misslinda]

Well it is 10 ish PST and I promised to myself I would meditate into sleep so my immune system can replenish and my body more time to do its job.

Getting a little dizzy and overwhelm as my kidneys keep flushing. cucumber juice was a treat tonite.

Be well and see you tomorrow. :)

[Ginger]

Interesting Path! I just always seem to naturally fast on the autumn equinox or my birthday. No idea why.

I'm not really getting many cleansing reactions yet.. my breath smelled funky for like a day but smells normal now. I definitly lost some weight too. Not sure how much because I don't have a scale. I also stopped weighing myself because I got reeealy fat this past year on fast food.. was too depressing & made me eat more. Oh I do have that acid feeling in my throat that really bugs me. Had it most of my last fast too. Very unpleasent.

I went for a hike on Sunrise Mountain this evening & boy did that feel wonderful! I can't stand being inside all of the sudden! And my body CRAVES movement & excercise like never before! I was up on that mountain a couple months ago (on cooked food) & that thing kicked my butt! I was so out of breath! Tonight I felt like I coulda hiked forever!

[misslinda]

I couldn't sleep so I came back.

Wow what an experience RVM!!!! :)

[Ginger]

Oh yeah & I am itching all over to the point where I am brushing my skin raw with my skin brush! How could I forget that lol! :eek:

Yeah I was wondering! I thought you were out for the night!

[misslinda]

Oh yeah & I am itching all over to the point where I am brushing my skin raw with my skin brush! How could I forget that lol! :eek:

Yeah I was wondering! I thought you were out for the night!



Good Morning Peoples! Day 3 of our fasting mode.

WOW, I bet that was exciting! I had the hives last night all over my hips. did ya finally get to sleep? Itch all night? :D

[Sunshine9]

HEY!! I would love to jump in here... I had been mentally debating a short fast around the equinox, and last night I got the guidance to start NOW. So here I am. My intention is to fast for 24 hours, and after that I am going to look within and see if I feel strongly to go further. I am new-ish to fasting. My plan is lots of water, some lemon, lots of green juices, and maybe a little bit of amazing healing herbal tea. I would really like to go for a week if my body wants to....

this thread is so inspiring!! It reallly got me excited to jump in and FAST for FUN!~!

[Ginger]

Welcome Sunshine! :D Your plan sounds awesome! I do the same thing.. I set a goal but listen to what my body wants above all.

Yes MissLinda I have been non stop itching for a couple days now! For some reason once I get to sleep I am ok but if I am concious.. I cannot stop!! :eek:

I have been starting every day by laying naked in the sun & then taking a shower after. I have been ending each day with skin brushing & meditation. I excercise durring the day on my elyptical & ab-lounge & am starting to add yoga to my evenings now. I try to remember to breathe deep whenever I think about it throughout the day.

I wash myself & my hair with Miracle II Soap only. I brush my teeth with toothsoap & a natural bristle toothbrush. The only other 'product' I use is this wonderful deoderant I got from Go Raw Cafe.. check it out: http://store.gorawcafe.com/sdb-deodkbrst4.html

Since I have grown back my chipped tooth from switching to toothsoap & going raw awhile back.. my next goal is to heal my cavities I had filled as a kid. I have 3 silver fillings in my molars. The fillings have started falling out around the last time I was raw. Another chunk fell out last night. It looks very healthy underneath & I have no doubt it is healing.

[misslinda]

Sunshine9 great to have you join us!!!!!

Rawveganmom, LOL,you poor thing.....are you drinking any water to neutralize it in the middle of the night/ Doin okay today?

I've had nothing but intense emotional/mental detox. Sat by the pond next to the pagoda at the beach and UGH*#(*)#_@*@^@^@^@&&&!^@^& I must have had 10,000 conversation all at once!!!!!!! A few people walked by and stared at me like I was mental. You know those vibes you feel when someone is in deep emotional angst????? Well multiply that by 100 :p


Never fails, whenever 3 pm hits, detox is ready to attack.

[star1919]

Hi... I'd like to join in, if I may... starting back in with water fasting... :)

[misslinda]

Star1919, you don't even have to ask....you are so more than welcome to hop in!

yur right,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,LOVE is always the answer :)

[misslinda]

Rawveganmom, amazing testimony on yur teeth. please keep us posted on the development! :)


My fasting has been 99% water and a little 4-8 oz juice that is dilluted with water.

I lost 5 lbs so far. Hair is falling out,4-5 bumps around my lips,face skin is getting softer.............

[Angeline]

Wishing everyone strength and peace on the closure of day 3 of fasting.

Today was hard to get through for me. I didn't realize how much I crave sugar. I always have my grapes and apples in the morning that seem to carry me through without craving sugar. Today I really noticed it. I didn't give in to the craving though, instead had a glass of raw cucumber juice twice, and a lemon and ginger juice tonight. Drank lots of water, did a lot of walking and also made it through a session of Bikram yoga.


Peace be to all and Goodnight. :)

[star1919]

Hi all... Hi Miss Linda... I'm glad to be joining in... Have a beautiful day! :D

[PATH301]

RawVeganMom,

I wash myself & my hair with Miracle II Soap only. I brush my teeth with toothsoap & a natural bristle toothbrush. The only other 'product' I use is this wonderful deoderant I got from Go Raw Cafe.. check it out: http://store.gorawcafe.com/sdb-deodkbrst4.html

Since I have grown back my chipped tooth from switching to toothsoap & going raw awhile back.. my next goal is to heal my cavities I had filled as a kid. I have 3 silver fillings in my molars. The fillings have started falling out around the last time I was raw. Another chunk fell out last night. It looks very healthy underneath & I have no doubt it is healing.
This is great :D . I checked out this store that you gave but they don't have the tooth soap. What type is it and where do you get it. I tried to email you from your site but it's not working for me.
Did you noticed more increase of this type of healing after your fasting periods or during them?

[misslinda]

Greetings Fall Fasters,

I am amazed at how much [time] there really is when fasting. My perception of time is being altered and more clear while fasting.

I hope you all find your place of "quietness" when the detox gets tough.

I drempt pretty weird last night but woke up with less swollen salivary glands.

:)

[Rainbow]

Today, I am feeling very very sleepy, almost sleep on my desk.
And I also feel some pain quite intensive and now is gone.

I wish go home soon to take rest.. .

Pray to all mighty, all love....to let me pass alls ups and downs during the healing..


If I am on retreat in the montain, it will be very easy to do water fast. I heard an European artist who did retreat on the high montain and she ate almost nothing.

I am taking train, meeting a lot people.. taking a lot enegy out.. I will try to do water fast on weekend, juice fast on week.

Misslinda we were all SAD before. weren't we? :rolleyes: She is the only living person I know who did such long fast. She really gave me the right guidance. She is a gift from God to help me to pass my serval extended fast.. I really thank the grace.

I wish you go well and pray always for you,

[PDMagnusen]

Hi, everyone. I feel better now that I did this AM when I first woke up. I had a really bad headache, but I couldn't sleep in. I'm at work now and by body is really craving the sun. I really need the warmth and the Vitamin D. I enjoyed my drive in today -- took my time and let the sun shine in the windows on my face and upper body. My energy level is okay today, so I think I will try to go for a walk after work. I'm feeling very peaceful today.

[misslinda]

Rainbow,sleeping at the desk.... Hopefully your boss is understanding? I wsh you all the strength for allowing your body to heal. Stay warm and at peace with it. :)

Yes, I agree, she did a long fast but I was "scared" by her abrupt eating....it made me feel bad for her b/c she was so desperate. Actually, our member Lay-Lay, did a 160 day or more water fast when she was very sick. She is still a member here.....

PDM, I know, I had to sit in the sun all day yesterday cuz I was cold and it felt like a set of warm hands wrapping around me...I'm glad you brought that up. I almost opted to stay in my room but the sun is a great idea. POWER BALL. :)

[Ginger]

Path it is called perfect prescription toothsoap. I am noticing now that fasting is making a difference durring.

[misslinda]

Rawveganmom, I love your new avatar!!!!!!

OMG, I feel like jumping outta my skin everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DETOX DETOX DETOX............................CRY ME A RIVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(



,......and this too shall come to pass :: shut up misslinda :: :)

[Ginger]

Thanks! Is it that 3 o'clock detox again? :eek:

[misslinda]

yep

.......it started at 3 but I can feel it in course around 12-2pm. for some reason, 3 pm is it folks. I wonder if this has anything to do with growing up as a child.......

our dinner was at 3 o'clock and we were not allowed to eat past this time. I hated eating ( during my struggles with anorexia) and always felt "knotted up" and angry during this hour!!!

perhaps I answered my own question doc :cool:

[star1919]

Hi... Interesting about the 3pm... I have some training in body healing work... and it is amazing how the body remembers... and how strong the emotion/body connections can be...

As for me... I woke up especially early this morning... had a slight headache... (I'm eager for detox... until it happens! grins) I did some acupressure... and it's gone. Yea!

Thought about doing some Tai Chi... but am not that inspired just yet... :rolleyes:
I've decided to take my pups for an early walk... so now we're waiting for the sunrise... :p

I love how light and energized my body is feeling with fasting...

Have a great day... all! :D

[Shan]

That 3pm thing IS interesting. I did really well with Raw for like two or three months, but soon it got harder and harder. I noticed I would do fine, but then 4pm would hit and I would just start to eat junk. When I was a kid I would get home from school at 4pm and always eat junk then (which was probably emotional eating). Makes me wonder if it's linked.

I'm Day 13 and not having such a good day. The last two days I switched from juice to water and things were going well. Not today. My heart has been beating so fast and I've been feeling like passing out. I ended up having a tomato/celery/cucumber juice which seemed to fix that stuff, though I still feel SOOOOOO tired.

I hope I feel that 'clear' feeling soon. So far I still have a bad vaginal yeast infection and I'm so weak it's so hard just to climb a flight of stairs. I've been forgetting everything! Everything I read says you're supposed to suddenly get all this energy, peace and clear-headedness. I hope I get it soon!

[misslinda]

Grrrrrrrrrrrrr I everyone, yes that "time" pattern is interesting to me as well. I also could smel certain foods my mother cooked when I was a child. I literally felt I was back there and I am reliving those emotional angsts (again ).

Rawveganmom, I love accupressure to --I do alot on my face! Enjoy your walk and plenty of rest too.

Are you able to rest Shan? Resting is when the body can heal and restore.

Have you considered grapefruit seed extract in your water to kill the candida? Day 12-15 is always the hardest for me too.....it feels like I am on the verge of crumbling.......keep us posted Shan.

[star1919]

Hi All... :D

That is cool you do the acupressure on your face... is that like the face exercises... using the acupressure points?

Hey Shan... You're doing so well! You've been going for a lot of days... Congrats! Hope your day gets better... ((hugs))

[PDMagnusen]

Hi, everyone. I made it one more day! I know it's still early in the evening, but I'm getting ready to go to bed soon, so I'm pretty sure I will make it :D.
Today was a good day. I went for a 30 minute walk this AM before work and I've been feeling good all day. I still have a bit of a headache from yesterday, though.

[Day Dreaming Renee']

Hello Everyone,

I am new to this site and I am sooooooooooo happy to be here. This is the 10th day of my MC (Master Fast) and I have lost a total of 17.5 pounds. I am now watching the Biggest Loser, which has inspired me to exercise with them while watching the program. Tonight I have did about 150 jumping jacks (not consecutively) and I was on my Nordic track for 15 min. After 10 days I am proud of myself because quite frankly this is the hardest thing I have ever did. However I am receiving a lot of pressure from my coworkers, mom and roommate to end this, they think that I am overdoing it and will pass out at any minute. I have discoved that they secretly text each other to make sure I don't appear to be dieing. LOL When I told them I was going to 15 days instead of just 10 man you could not get them to shout up with concern. They mean well but they are not helping. Anyway I am still always dreaming of food especially pizza and then avocado, red hummus and the blue chips that I get from the organic store. No one of this is raw except the avocado but I am gong to really try to make my food raw. I have done so in the past but my food does not turn out tasty and I don’t know what I am doing wrong. Yes I have Alissa’s book and I have use 3 or 4 recipes. But my question for is when am I going to stop being so hungry most of the time and yes I am drink water along with the MC. More importantly what can I do to keep this weight off? I mean I plan to do the 30-day challenge will that be enough to keep this off?

1. Has anyone lost significant amount of weight on a fast and keep if off? Please please give me the hope

2. 2. When am I going to have a spiritual awaking that everyone else has?

3. What do you east the first 1-3 days after your fast is complete. In the MC book it says the first day should be orange juice but that seems like a lot of acid on your stomach.

Adivse please.

Day 1 MC-231.5
Day 10 MC 213 (today!)

[star1919]

Hi All... Hey PD and Renee... great job! :D

As for me, this afternoon I had really strong hunger pangs... to the point I was thinking of food... uh huh... it lingered... so I drank some water... that helped. But, I was still thinking about eating... finally I realized it was more emotional hunger... being in the habit of eating. It felt like a little breakthrough for me... to be able to discern the difference between emotional hunger and 'real' hunger.

Once I realized that, I thought about the food... and realized that if I did eat it right now... it wouldn't give me what I really want. The fast is doing that. This felt so good... rather than feeling deprived by not eating... I felt so positive staying with the fast. Such a shift in how I view fasting.

I'm learning... and feeling so free and empowered with this recent fasting. And, my body is feeling so energized and light! I'm lovin' it... :p

[misslinda]

PDM, wonderful to hear you've made it thru another day! * throws confetti *

Renne, Hi and welcome! Congrats on your 10th into the MC. I just wanted share a bit of info with you and everyone else......

I know it seems majority of us are feeling up to "exercising" but I think it is also [very] important to emphasize that since the blood pressure has dropped, we need to be real gentle....it is during the time of rest that healing takes place. these are not my own opinions but words I've come across from various fasting pioneer doctors. For the sake of our health and for healng at the same time. Dont' want to see anyone get hurt.

Going back to your concerns Renee, I'll share my opinion with fasting and weightloss. Weightloss is a reward on fasting.........fasting itself is a focus of "revamping" the body close to what is ought to be. To cleanse,detosify,digest and eliminate more efficently. To be at peace with your body......sure the weightloss happens but one thing is for sure....

POST FAST will make all the difference. How you eat and exercise. Grant it, some will gain a few pounds back and level off,,,,,,,,some will not gain any and may stay the same,,,,,,some will not gain any and lose........depends on each person.

When I ended my fast in April, I lost another 3-4 lbs and I was 100% raw. Mind you, I was a simple eater and worked our regualry---although I worked out 1/3 of the time compared to when I was high raw before I discovered this site.........

Dont' worry about the weight,,,,,,,,,,notice all the changes you are experiencing: glowy face,energy,softer hair,better diegstion etc etc a cleaner and healtheir body is a more efficient body which equals weightloss.

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Today has been a interesting day. I am moving more slower and time appears to be alot longer than ususal. Everyone seems "toxic" to me and the smells are aggrivating. I find comfort in humming today and drinking plety of water..............living water :)

[Ginger]

Renee I love your energy & your passion for what you are doing! Nice to meetcha! My tip I learned today is that when people freak out over you fasting & ask when you plan to stop: don't tell em! Just say oh I don't know i'll see how it goes. I'm listening to my body! :D Shuts em up a bit! LOL

1. Has anyone lost significant amount of weight on a fast and keep if off? Please please give me the hope
As long as you don't return to eating 'normally' you wont go back to your 'normal' weight! Eat raw & excercise! :D

2. 2. When am I going to have a spiritual awaking that everyone else has?
Have you just sat in nature quietly & observed the world around you
? Have you looked deep withing yourself? It's really different with everyone but for me it just kinda just happens.. I become very connected & well psychic too!

3. What do you east the first 1-3 days after your fast is complete. In the MC book it says the first day should be orange juice but that seems like a lot of acid on your stomach.

SMALL PORTIONS (very important because your stomach shrunk alot) of fresh juicy not so acidic or heavy fruits. Then move on to simple salads & simple foods with not alot of ingredients. Worth repeating to keep portions small.

[Ginger]

So day 5 for me.. i'm finally feeling like i'm fasting!!! I worked out at the gym for 40 minuts on the weights & actually weighed myself for the first time in over 6 months! I LOST OVER 20 POUNDS!!!!!!!!! :D

[misslinda]

So day 5 for me.. i'm finally feeling like i'm fasting!!! I worked out at the gym for 40 minuts on the weights & actually weighed myself for the first time in over 6 months! I LOST OVER 20 POUNDS!!!!!!!!! :D


Yahoooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DIng Ding.................... * fire works * :)

[Ginger]

Thanks!! :D

I guess I should include that I got the game dance dance revolution today also & I can't stop playing it!!! Boy do you work up a sweat too! They said on the website that it's not uncommon to lose hella weight & there is even a workout mode!

[star1919]

Hi All... :D Rawveganmom... wow... you have me inspired to get more movement in my day!

I'm finding a positive strength in fasting... As I'm pushing through the limits of what I thought I could do with this... I find I'm looking at other areas of my life too... :p

[Shan]

I know it seems majority of us are feeling up to "exercising" but I think it is also [very] important to emphasize that since the blood pressure has dropped, we need to be real gentle....it is during the time of rest that healing takes place. these are not my own opinions but words I've come across from various fasting pioneer doctors. For the sake of our health and for healng at the same time. Dont' want to see anyone get hurt.


I wish I felt up to exercising. I feel too weak to do any more than slowly exercising on my recumbant stationary bike for ten minutes. I'm trying to just to get the blood/lymph moving and get the toxins out, not really to lose more weight. Though I have noticed on the days I do ride the bike, even for 10 minutes it must ignite my metabolism because I end up losing a pound or so more.

You guys are all doing so great! I'm waiting for that spiritual awakening too Renee :)

I'm pretty thrilled because today is my two week fast- anniversary! :D My husband is even impressed and says on Monday he wants to go on a two-week juice fast with me! That way we'd end at the same time. Though I'm a little worried. He has improved his way of eating since I discovered Raw, but (like most of us, especially me) he has a hard time sticking to eating well. That's ok if you're eating Raw then fall off the wagon, you might feel a little sick. However if he's Fasting and then suddenly decided FORGET IT and mows down on a burger or something like that without slowly breaking his fast over a week or more, he will get really ill. I'm worried he's doing this just to lose weight, and I think it's really hard to do a fast unless you have a deep commitment and reason to do it. My main reason is to clean out because we want to try for another baby in three months. That's what's keeping me going.

MissLinda, you mentioned grapefruit extract drops... you mean like pure essential grapefruit oil? I have been taking oregano oil everyday.... that's supposed to be good for killing candida. But this yeast infection is STILL here after two weeks and I'm starting to get worried about having it for so long. I'm finding it hard to have faith that the Fast will clean it out of me.

[misslinda]

MissLinda, you mentioned grapefruit extract drops... you mean like pure essential grapefruit oil? I have been taking oregano oil everyday.... that's supposed to be good for killing candida. But this yeast infection is STILL here after two weeks and I'm starting to get worried about having it for so long. I'm finding it hard to have faith that the Fast will clean it out of me.


:eek: OMG everyday?

oregano oil like ultra potent and does a good job of detstroying good bacteria in stomach ( could be a possiblity and reason for on going yeast infection). Did you already have the yeast infection before you started this fasting? How long have you had candida? how were your bowels before fasting?

Are you doing any type of eliminator while fasting?

[Ginger]

Grapefruit seed extract is not an essential oil. Google it for info. I get mine at Whole Foods Market. That is so cool about your hubby! Congrats on your 2 weeks!! :D

As for excercising while fasting you have to listen to your body above all. Some people hike mountains while fasting (Paul Bragg for example) or walk through deserts & stuff. Others have to really take it easy. In this fast I can't sit still it feels like i'm dying & my legs feel poisoned if I take it easy. My body is literally screaming at me to get up & move! My daughter & I woke up this morning & usually I jump right online till I can wake up a bit.. today we shot out of bed & made a dash for the DDR game!! We've been taking turns all morning! I come online in between rounds :D

Oh & I checked my blood pressure last night & it's the highest it's ever been in my entire life!!! Whats up with that?!! Freaked me out a bit but I trust my body. Usually i'm like 111/70 now i'm 132/83!!!! aaaaahhhhhhh! help? any thoughts?

[Ginger]

HELP!!! All I can think about is eating a hot dog & a bratwurst!!!!!!! I want to break my fast now just to eat these things!!! I am going INSANE with wanting them!!! I've been wanting them even before I went raw again but now it is SO INTENCE!!!! :eek:

[Svadhyaya]

Shan, try douching with tea tree oil and lavender (about 4 drops of each) in about 16 oz. water. Do this about every 3 days till your symptoms are gone....it may only take one time to feel better.

Also, you may want to add probiotics to your diet if you aren't already taking them. Yeast overgrowth often necessitates a replenishment of good bacteria into your body to keep it from happening again.

Also, don't eat mushrooms and you may go easy on fruits and carrots for awhile. Sugary foods feed yeast.

[PDMagnusen]

RawVeganMom, how are you doing?? Were you able to stick to the fast and work through the cravings?

star1919, I'm glad you worked through your hunger pains and are feeling good! Good for you!

Shan, Congratulations on your two week fast!

misslinda, how are you today?

I'm actually feeling pretty good today. I was able to sit outside today and get some sun and I spent a lot of time just relaxing and reflecting on life. My BF has been eating a lot of yummy foods since I started my fast, so for some reason I'm a bit annoyed with him. HAHA, it's bad - I should not be annoyed with him for eating! :D
Anyway, I think I have to break my fast tomorrow AM. I'm travelling to NYC this weekend to see David Wolfe at The Plant in Dumbo and I will need to start incorporating smoothies and light foods back into my diet. Today makes day 6 and I feel great! I didn't experience as many detox symptoms as I did during my last 7 day fast in March, but I still feel wonderful. I'm ready to begin the emotional, spiritual, and physical changes that are coming about due to the Fall.
You are all doing wondeful and keep it up!!!

[Shan]

HELP!!! All I can think about is eating a hot dog & a bratwurst!!!!!!! I want to break my fast now just to eat these things!!! I am going INSANE with wanting them!!! I've been wanting them even before I went raw again but now it is SO INTENCE!!!! :eek:

DON'T DO IT RAWVEGANMOM, DON'T DO IT! You'll feel so sick and be destroying all this hard work and discipline. Go say a prayer or meditate. Think deeply about the reason you started this fast. You know those foods won't satisfy you. You'll only feel guilty afterwards. I'll be thinking of you and hoping the best!


OMG everyday?

oregano oil like ultra potent and does a good job of detstroying good bacteria in stomach ( could be a possiblity and reason for on going yeast infection). Did you already have the yeast infection before you started this fasting? How long have you had candida? how were your bowels before fasting?

Are you doing any type of eliminator while fasting?

Am I not supposed to be taking Oregano Oil everyday? From everything I've researched it's one of the oils you can take everyday (the back of my bottle says 3 drops under the tongue up to three time a day) without a break. Have you heard differently? I didn't know it killed the good bacteria too! Scary. Kind of funny because for the last week I was taking three doses a day, but yesterday and today I didn't take it at all. I felt repulsed by it, and I'm not sure why.

Yes I had the yeast infection before the fast. I've had the Candida... actually I think it started to show it's face during my pregnancy with my son nearly four and a half years ago. I had never had a yeast infection in my life until I was pregnant. I also developed this rash which the doctor said is just a reaction to shampoo and perfumed type products. But it never really has gone away.

As for my bowels, when I'm SAD it's once a day. When I'm Raw it's twice a day. I've never had a problem with being constipated. I'm slightly concerned that since I've been fasting I only have a TINY amount of diarhea-like stool (sorry if that's too much info). I don't feel constipated or anything though.

What's an Eliminator???

[Day Dreaming Renee']

Thank you Raw Vegan Mom, Star 1919, Misslinda and everyone else. I really appreicate the words of wisdom. This is day 11 of my fast and I am going strong to day 14 which will be Sunday.Today I worked out with Billy Blanks (Bootcamp Video) for about 15 min and I reminded myself per the emails to take it easy. With God and your support I will get there.

Smooches from Renee' :cool:


Day 1 MC -230.5
Day 10th -213
Day 11 -did not weight myself
Goal: Making it to Day 14, staying Raw and reaching 150 pounds

[misslinda]

PDM, I how terrible that you have to break your fast to [see] David Wolfe :D Pleas tell him Mr. Hottie that we said "HI!" Thank you so much for fasting with us---it's been inspirational !!!!!

Rawveganmom I agree the Renee NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T DO IT.......IT'S EVIL! DOGGIES ARE NOT WORTH IT......MECHANICALLY TRANSFERRED MEAT IN HOT DOGS........READ THIS:


WASHINGTON - Machines that extract the last bits of meat from animal bones are extracting "non-meat" from the central nervous system that could transfer diseases to humans, according to a consumer group.

The Center for Science in the Public Interest says it is filing a petition with the U.S. Agriculture Department this week to ban animal backbones and neck bones from being put through "advanced meat recovery" machines in order to keep central nervous tissues out of food served in the school-lunch program.

In the United States, advanced meat recovery produces an estimated 45 million pounds of beef and 141 million pounds of pork each year, worth from $100 million to $150 million. The Agriculture Department says hot dogs and sausages can contain up to 20 percent of mechanically separated meat, and it is used in other products like hamburgers, luncheon meats and canned meats.

Shan, from what I have researched and discussed with folks in the alternative healthcare industry, oils themselves are such high potency that should be used real conservatively even though the "general" dosages say "3-4 drops."

I only offer suggestions and personal opnions so please don't think you have to take the suggestions but I've noticed thru research that grapefruit seed extract seems to be a well liked and result oriented approach to kiling the yeast but keep in mind that that is only one facet of this "condition." Did you read the link I provided in the previous page? What I find interesting with the issue with leaky gut is that it is intricate and makes the battle multidimensional in its healing approach......

I would definately suggest a high grade probiotics (non diary source) and meanwhile, do a home enema or eliminator using red clover extract into tea....some people use a laxative tea which I don't care for but if it suits you, try it and powder magnesium is a good reamer cleaner.

Reason being, if you have been using the oregano all this time. Still with the yeast etc, it's a good idea to draw out some of those toxins that may be building up in the colon and bloodstreamn that's where we get the flare up of symptoms for those of us with autoimmune symptoms.

Renbee great to hear that your fasting is going well....continue your inner peace!

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Divine experience:

Well today was a blessed day. Spent the day with my sister at the beach park. Did some peaceful slow walking and breathing exercises. Prayed for guidance of my salivary gland issues. Few minutes later, I received information which points of my body the "disturbance" is occurring. I found 2 pts on the back of my head, 2 points back--scapula,2 points lower back. I was able to see and feel the pattern. I began to have some draining where alot of pressure has been built up for months and month ---its' been over a year. Fasting takes me to these quiet and still moments when I can hear my body speak and hear my creator speak..........it's truly amazing how fasting takes you there.

:)

[misslinda]

btw, Star1919, Congrats on finding your strength in fasting!!!

Svadhyaya, hi and great to see you here! what does your avatar character mean?

[Shan]

Shan, try douching with tea tree oil and lavender (about 4 drops of each) in about 16 oz. water. Do this about every 3 days till your symptoms are gone....it may only take one time to feel better.

Also, you may want to add probiotics to your diet if you aren't already taking them. Yeast overgrowth often necessitates a replenishment of good bacteria into your body to keep it from happening again.

Also, don't eat mushrooms and you may go easy on fruits and carrots for awhile. Sugary foods feed yeast.

Thanks so much for the advice Svadhyaya... I went and bought some lavender today.

I also decided to take the 'Florify' probiotics. I have, although I read that it's not good to take supplements while fasting because your body just reads it as a toxin and works harder to get rid of it. But I'm going to try anyhow.... nothing's working so far.

I really appreciate everyone's advice. You're all so helpful.

[Svadhyaya]

Good luck.
I've been there, and it can make you miserable!


Miss Linda....
My avatar reads "peace."

[star1919]

Hi All... :D

Hey PD... Congrats on completing your fast! Have a great trip!

Hey Renee... You're doing so great... and almost there... yea you!

As for me, I am focusing on drinking more water... I don't think I've been drinking enough. I was a bit tired earlier... but went outside and sat in the sun... I feel energized again... :)

[Ginger]

Ok so i'm no longer fasting.. broke it with a sip of cantalope juice & a few bites of cantalope. Then a little later had the water from a coconut. Then later I went out to dinner with my family & had the most amazing salad bar! Even had jicama on it! It was awesome! I won't tell you what else I had but I feel great! I didn't overeat either!

I absolutely love fasting but I hate the burning in my throat & the horrible painful acid burps I get all day! My spit is gone & all I have are hundreds of tiny foamy bubbles & if I swallow I have to throw up burning acid bubbles! I think I will have to stick to juice fasting in short spurts but more frequently for awhile.. It is so horrible that if it keeps happening I will actually have to give up the idea of fasting.. Did I mention I love fasting? Any advice?

[misslinda]

Headache for most of the day. The evening has been more intense and throbbing but enjoying it. Prayed and did alot of affirmations. Tomorrow will be challenging as I have a hair appointment for 3 hours--the smell is going to make my stomach feel queasy.

Drank Penta all day and this morning a few drops of lemon juice. Aromatherapy with speariment.

exerpt:day 3-7 general stages of detox
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The body embraces the fast and the digestive system is able to take a much-needed rest, focusing all of its energies on cleansing and healing. White blood cell and immune system activity increases. You may feel pain in your lungs. The cleansing organs and the lungs are in the process of being repaired. Periodically, the lymphatic system expels mucoid matter through the nose or throat. The volume excreted of this yellow-colored mucus can be shocking. The sinuses go through periods of being clogged, then will totally clear. The breath is still foul and the tongue coated. Within the intestine, the colon is being repaired and impacted feces on the intestinal wall start to loosen.

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The intensity of detox in my sinuses are accelerating as of today. I feel calmness in my stomach and I have most desire to be in quietness.

:)

[Shan]

RawVeganMom, I'm glad you enjoyed your meal! I'm especially glad you didn't feel sick.

MissLinda, I hope your headache has passed. By the way, I noticed that cool excerpt from a stage of Detox. Can you find a list of those stages online? I would love to read them all.

Last night I decided to do a Liver/Galbladder Flush I did a few months ago and it worked great! You wouldn't believe how many stones that came out....wild. I got it from RowanC: http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12850&highlight=galbladder

Though I have to say so far there don't seem to be anywhere near the amount of stones this time. Maybe because I've been fasting... and the diahrea has been bad, I guess because there's nothing solid already in my bowels. But I was hoping to clean out my galbladder so that getting rid of all these toxins was easier on my liver.

Happy Fasting everyone!

[mindlikewater]

HI EVERYONE!! i am new here, but i decided this was the best place to start since i am beginning a fast in two days. before going raw i struggled with IBS, and though i have gotten much better, but i still i think my digestive system needs a good rest. i am shooting for 40 days with water only. fall is such a good time for renewal and i am looking forward to some spiritual/mental healing as well. i am really going to need encouragement and support, not because i crave food or anything, but because the first week is so hard with the headaches and slowed mental state, especially for me as a college student who needs her brain for studying eight hours a day! i am particularly going to need help to drown out the little voices that tell me i am doing something bad to my body.
i wish that i could just stay on some reclusive mountain, and sit in silence like the buddha without all the distraction of city life for as long as i needed. yet at the moment this is impossible since i am on a scholarship which is akin to being a slave to school until i have some degree in my hand. my body however cannot wait until hermit state is attainable, so i will just make the most of the current situation.
anyways, sorry for being so long-winded, but i would truly appreciate all support for these next few weeks. i will keep you updated with feelings and insights. your fellow traveller on the raw path,
mindlikewater

[misslinda]

Welcome mindlikewater (great SN name btw),

Best to you on your fasting.

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Today is going to be challening as I mentioned yesterday that I have a hair appt to attend. I am in the "zone" and wish to be alone in quietness. Simplicity is most attractive to me. Fasting is such a [simple] approach to healing. Not too many things to choose from. I was worried that I didn't have enought variety for juices or water but it's more desireable to keep it simple. I have stuck with Penta in the morning and night---during the day distilled. Lemon juice or grapefuit juice dilluted if needed.



Do an enema every 3-4 days now. Lots of rest can't get this enought with healing and deep breathing. It's been a wonderful 8 days yet it feels like a LIFETIME --meaning, all of my sense is experiencing LIFE without the clutter.

:)

[star1919]

Hi All... :D

Hey, RawVeganMom... nice to share some of the journey with you!

Hey, Miss Linda... I hear you about the simplicity... and the quieter moments... Hope your day goes well...


As for me, I've noticed that my awareness of things has shifted a bit... not sure how to express it... but my senses are more alive... to the colors, smells, sounds, energy... and almost a sense of stillness I'm feeling...

I'm focused on drinking more water... and appreciating the sunshine so bright and radiant in the sky this morning... feels good to be outside... :p

[Ginger]

Thank you guys! I miss fasting with you already!

MLW that is totally what I was hoping to do! Maybe I can live vicariously through you! :D

[Shan]

HI EVERYONE!! i am new here, but i decided this was the best place to start since i am beginning a fast in two days. before going raw i struggled with IBS, and though i have gotten much better, but i still i think my digestive system needs a good rest.

Welcome Mindlikewater! Let me know how your IBS is. My husband suffers with IBS and I would love to hear how you feel during/after fasting. We're all here to support you. I'm halfway through a 30 (or 40 if I can manage it) day Juice Fast (with the odd day that I make a Water Fast). Looking forward to your insights and feelings. I really wish I could plain water fast, and I had a couple of ok days doing it, but then the fatigue and weakness got too much. I just wasn't able to keep up with my four year old and my daily responsibilities. Good luck to you!

[misslinda]

Shan, I'm sorry I missed your questions earlier. Here it is for you

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13308

Rawveganmom, it has been a great pleasure and honor to be fasting with you! I wish you well and please feel free to "company" even though you are not in fasting mode.

Star1919, yeah, I feel like my body is filtering out interference around me so it can be heard clearly. I'm glad you are having your quietness as well.

[misslinda]

I've been rereading Hering's Law of Cure and following the pattern to apply it to my symptoms. I am detoxing very fast and I feel even accelerating in stages.

Today, I've been having vivid memories of childhood illness,symptoms and events that I have been repressing. As I started to have stomach pains, I had a clear color visual of my ED days of swallowing packages of laxatives. I clearly remember swallowing 3 packages and having no response. That would be the mark of colon/stomach issues. I then remembered most of my life as a child even into my highschool years, I would tilt my head to the right. A sign of melancholy,depression etc........later in this present life, the left side of my neck is injured. There are more vivd memories but I will keep it at this......

It's like the feeling of old dormant/dying cells rebirthing and recharging.

Tonite I am in mourning for my Creator. Listening to "With All I Am" Surrendering the deepest parts of me b/c I am open and "thirsting for water."

:)

[misslinda]

my latest healing technique......

massaging the inside of my mouth :)

[mindlikewater]

ok, so today is my weaning off day to jump into the fast. i had my last meal of fruit this morning, and might snack on vegatables through the day depending how i feel.

i am much more prepared for this than i thought. food is not at all appealing to me at the moment. i am excited, though still a bit apprehensive. i know the higher power will bestow grace on me as long as i remain humble and pray for strength.

you go on with your bad rebirthing self, misslinda!!

i've been listening to bob dylan all morning, and i already feel uplifted myself.
(well, some people consider dylan a religion)

love and thanks to everyone for their kind words yesterday.
peace,
mindlikewater

[star1919]

Hi All... :D

Hey MLW... good to have you with us!

Hey Shan... how wonderful you have a 4 year old... what a great age that is! And, special you're considering another baby... best with all of that!

Hey Miss Linda... what a profound process of healing you're in... in some of the healing training I've taken... it is amazing how the body holds memory... it can be such a deep healing proccess...


As for me, I was at a big birthday bash last night... I was hoping to fast through it... but realized while there, it would draw too much attention away from the celebration... so I pushed food around my plate... and ate a little... my body didn't respond that well to it... but am through it.

And, so glad to be back to fasting this morning... it feels good...
Have a beautiful day all... :p

[misslinda]

Star1919, glad you made it thru and best to you on the cont'd fasting.....


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I've been weak, tired and lots of pre anxiety panic like syptoms. I thought I was going to have to go the hospital.....but i realized that these are symptoms I use to have several years ago..............I knew I would get past it. The sensations would follow by yurinations.........I'm getting intense cleasning in my kidneys. My emotions are up and down today but I feel a float.

[Angeline]

Still going strong on this fast. I'm noticing that I'm getting extra sensitive to smells, and enjoy the smell of food so much I don't mind not being able to eat it. I'm also getting extra sensitive to vibrations of energy around me. I tried to explain this to my husband and I think it sounded strange the way I described it, but it feels like the energy of living things are moving through me. I know that sounds really strange, but I'm not sure how else to describe it.

I found this link to info on fasting if anyone is interested. It helped to answer some questions I've had.

http://www.falconblanco.com/health/fasting.htm#Preparation%20for%20Your%20Fast

Sending good energy to everyone who is trying to make it through another day of fasting.

Goodnight. :-)

[misslinda]

Hey Angeline, Great to see you making it thru this far also. I see we are both fasting and doing October Challenge!

I'm heading to the point where I don't ever want to stop fasting--ya know what I mean? By day 12, I am in excruciating detox so I am preparing myself......never fails at day 12 for me.

Last night was a bit difficult emotionally as well this morning. I am feeling pains just about in every unusual place--physically and emotionally. Today I have a very exclusive wine event to attend and I don't feel like going but RSVP's were fulfilled :rolleyes: I can't go in sweats and be comfortable b/c of location and the hosts are in tuxes......... * heavy sigh * I [really] dont want to go.......I can't wait til it's over so I can curl up ina fetal position and cry.

Pumpkin season. If I fast 40 days as I think that would be a wonderful symbolic duration,it will end Nov 2. That's several weeks before Thanksgiving day.

:)

[star1919]

Hey Angeline... sounds like your fast is going great!

Hey Miss Linda... hope all goes okay at the wine event... sounds like you're in some deep healing... ((hugs))

As for me... a good day on the fast... I'm thinking to go longer too... :rolleyes: if my body continues to respond well... I'll continue on...

A good and gentle day to all... :D

[mindlikewater]

ok so the mind-body battle begins!!

i have gotten over the initial hardest part where my i am very foggy headed, and now a more calm and clear focus has started creeping it's way in.

'hunger' pains have not ebbed though, but i know they probably won't completely go away for another couple of days. i just have to use 'mind over matter' for a while. my stomach says gimmie some fruit!!! my brain says, not now.
somehow i know that the emptiness i feel at the moment is hint of the hunger that is actually in my soul, which i tend to neglect on a regular basis because my life is so 'busy.'

i am using the time i would normally eat to pick at my old dusty guitar. they say that music is 'food for the soul.'
peace

[star1919]

Hey MLW... hope your day has gone well!

Love the thought of you with your guitar... :p

[Angeline]

I don't know how to do that cool thing where you can copy what someone else posted earlier...so I'l just go by memory here and hopefully Miss Linda will know what I am talking about,

Miss Linda I agree with being at the point where you don't want the fast to ever stop. The energy you feel is so great and peaceful. I hope that it stays like this for the rest of the fast. I think it may ebb and flow...I don't really know it's the first long fast for me. I know today during Bikram yoga I felt this energy that was very focused and peaceful. On the drive home the leaves on the trees were extra vibrant looking in colors, and it reminded me of being 8 again when everything seemed so new and vibrant.

Wishing energy and peace to all of you!

Goodnight :)

[misslinda]

hee hee Angeline, you are in good vibes with your fasting--it's very inspiring. I know what you mean by the colors of the leaves even more brighter.........I feel like the sloughing of garbage from my body mind and soul is allowing the more true and real perception of my environment.

btw, if you ever want to quote what someone has posted, before you clikc on "reply," look to the far right, you will see a button that says "quote" once you hit that, all the words will appear what they said, you can delete any portion that you dont want. Then proceed with your own posting.

:)

[Shan]

I am in complete awe of you guys. You all seem to be experiencing this clear headedness, and increased spirituality. I myself am going through a second dose of detox. I'm breaking out again, my yeast infection has gotten worse and I feel downright grumpy and close to the end of my rope. I'm started to feel like like this is pointless. I don't feel like my body is healing at all. I have no energy at all.

Mindlikewater, I hope your mind wins! Playing the guitar sounds like a nice idea.

Angeline, Star1919 and MissLinda you're all doing great too. It's nice to come and read your posts. Makes me think this fast will take a turn for the better sometime soon. I'm worried that my body is so sick it won't heal by Day 30 (I'm on Day 19) and I honestly don't know if I can go for much longer than that.

[star1919]

Hi All... :D

Hey Angeline... loved your description of leaves and seeing things new... so cool! I know what you mean... I have a different sense of colors, sounds, scents, energy... and a deeper sense of stillness and inner peace.

Hey Shan... you're doing so great... so many days on your fast already! I hope your body will continue with the deep healing you're in... and that it will be soon a gentler journey for you.

As for me, it is a good day... and I am so glad to be doing this!

A gentle good day for all...

[misslinda]

I am in complete awe of you guys. You all seem to be experiencing this clear headedness, and increased spirituality. I myself am going through a second dose of detox. I'm breaking out again, my yeast infection has gotten worse and I feel downright grumpy and close to the end of my rope. I'm started to feel like like this is pointless. I don't feel like my body is healing at all. I have no energy at all.

Mindlikewater, I hope your mind wins! Playing the guitar sounds like a nice idea.

Angeline, Star1919 and MissLinda you're all doing great too. It's nice to come and read your posts. Makes me think this fast will take a turn for the better sometime soon. I'm worried that my body is so sick it won't heal by Day 30 (I'm on Day 19) and I honestly don't know if I can go for much longer than that.


Shan, I 'm sorry you are at "ropes end as I know what that feeling is like in iterms of dealing with healh issues that seem endless...

Did you read the intial link I gave you about candida/leaky gut?

I strongly wonder if the fasting is allowing you to deal with [more] toxins than you are able to bodily deal with right now?

Are you doing any of the probiotics etc?

Yeast is one of those conditions that harbor in moist environments.....juicing is rather dampening to the system. Are you doing any green juices?

Well I'm down with "bronchitis" symptoms, slept all day. no appetite for even water. Had some yellow dock and feel more alive right now.

[misslinda]

Doing alot of cobra position (yoga) with feet elevated on bench instead. I just had a BM tonite--must be the probiotic I took along with yellow dock today.

I feel anxious about fasting today and almost tempted to quit--I konw that I will not. Alot of mind conversations and going back and forth.

there is fear that my health issues I have been fighting, will not heal entirely.........how long can I deal with them? howlong can i handle this strangling sensation in my neck day after day?

Tonite I will do my best to meditate in my throat chakra with my soldalite stone. :cool:

;)

[PATH301]

So misslinda,

Doing alot of cobra position (yoga) with feet elevated on bench instead.In this cobra position how far are you able to spit, just like cobra's do? :D

[misslinda]

So misslinda,
In this cobra position how far are you able to spit, just like cobra's do? :D


How bout a visual......I'm not feeling well today.......I'm in a pair of really cool white long johns and sprawled on the floor like one of those cobra snakes coming out of a woven basket. Hisssssssss hissssssssssss. Remember, I'm "enzyme"........have the ability change things ;)

[PATH301]

Yeah, but you need me snake girl coz I'm the water off life :D

[star1919]

Hi All... :D

The weather has shifted a bit where I am... Brrrr.... I decided to have some hot tea... and that made all the difference! Woke up today feeling good with the fast and going on. If need be, I'll have more tea to warm up.

A gentle and good day to all...

[misslinda]

Hi All... :D

The weather has shifted a bit where I am... Brrrr.... I decided to have some hot tea... and that made all the difference! Woke up today feeling good with the fast and going on. If need be, I'll have more tea to warm up.

A gentle and good day to all...


Greetings Star1919 and other fasters out there,

Been a rought couple of days but today is improved in this "bronchitis" episode....

Water

Celery juice

1.5 walk

Cried off and on

Talked with my sis about my health issues.

* I hope that you are all finding serenity in your fasting walk. I delight in your strength and willingness to keep going b/c it inspires me. *

;)

[mindlikewater]

hey everyone! you all are so inspiring to me. i've actually had a rough couple of days (feel your pain shan/misslinda) but thinking of the strength that everyone has shown so far was the only thing keeping me moving.

i've had so much nausea, i feel like i'm pregnant!! yesterday i felt so week i had to force myself to walk.

i am feeling a little better now, but i gotta hunch detox will drift in wave by wave. at least the nausea fights off food craving:>

stay strong shan. thnk about more of the overall benefit, which doesn't necessarily have to be 100% healing this time. any amount of healing is always worth striving for. in other words...
No Pain No Gain!! (XOXOXO)

don't know what that whole 'cobra' thing was about....

luego chicas

[misslinda]

Oh Star1919, I do the cobra position for deep breath work thru out the body but this time I elevated my feet. It just felt better this time.

Today was like a "wave" of pain and emotions. I felt like I was on a conveyor belt and riding all the memories of the past that I repressed for so long, I"m recalling events that are being dipicted in chronological order of what had evoloved in my life and of me. I felt blinded by these images and I felt I needed shades to dim the effect. I found myself squinting at these memories. One that I can recall today........

I'm about 4-5 years old and I remembering holding my father's hand.......we are in Cananda if I recall. I can see the cement sidewalk we are walking on.....I am jumbled in my head/mind b/c trying to keep up with my father's pace, I am unable to skip the line that divides the first cement square to the next. I remember having to do this---I would be frantic and panicky if I didn't....at one point my whold body felt jagged and I pulled away from my father and ran back to skip this line.........the last thing I remember is looking up at a billboard sign. This is something I had done for years and with other lines on other objects.....

I know this sounds strange but I'm recalling strange/unusual events that has brought me to where I am now in my health. A kind of repatterning that I am experiencing. I hate it---I feel I want to scream and hide but it's in my mind so I can't shut it out. Deep breathing sounds like a good thing today.

[Shan]

Well guys, I broke my fast on Tuesday night. My energy was just getting lower and lower instead of better. I was starting to get depressed because I wasn't able to keep up with even my most basic jobs around the house. I'm a slob, but the mess was getting way overwhelming. I was also starting to get tingly fingers. That has happened a few times in my life, and when I've gone to the doc it's always been that I had a deficiency in one of these things: iron, folic acid, or B12. So I said a prayer and I felt at peace with breaking it. At least I made it 19 days. That avocado with salt and pepper was like HEAVEN... seriously, nothing has ever tasted so good.

MissLinda, I quickly read your post on Leaky Gut, but I'm going to read it again. I do think it was just too much for my body all at once. I also rarely juiced any greens because I have a terrible juicer and couldn't afford all the greens it would have costed to make even a 1/4 of a cup of juice. So mostly I drank fruit juices. The thought of vegetable juices makes me want to throw up. A few times I made a sort of V8 juice and even then I wanted to vomit. But at the same time I was actually craving the WHOLE vegetable. Strange I know. All the fruit juice couldn't have been good for my Candida, but I figured fruit juice was better than not fasting.

Anyhow I want to thank you guys for all your support and advice. I wish you all great success on your fasts! See you around the boards!

[star1919]

Hi All... :D

Hey Shan... Congratulations on your 19 days! That is a wonderful accomplishment! Wishing you all the best with your healing and your beautiful family!

Hey Miss Linda... the practice of yoga is wonderful! As for the fast... your healing is deep. I appreciate the process you're in... it is amazing what the body/emotion recall is. Your deep breathing sounds wise... and honoring what is coming up. Wishing you a gentle day...

As for me, it was chilly here... so more hot tea. That helped me warm up... I am going to start some juices for a few days... over the weekend. I'm needing a little boost in energy with all I'm doing right now.

A bright and beautiful day...

[Angeline]

Shan give yourself a big hug, you gave yourself a great gift with 19 days of fasting!

Miss Linda I'm sorry you are going through a rough spot. I hope you feel better very soon.

I've been down for the count with a severe migraine that won't let up. Haven't been able to keep much down so keeping the fast hasn't been hard these last three days. I pray tomorrow will find some relief of pain. Husband wanted to take me to the ER but convinced him it was a bad idea. Going through a lot of old memories laying in bad fighting this migraine. Seems like my mind is racing with old dusty forgotten things ( I wanted to forget) I decided to let them play out in my mind while just observing it all. Then I imagined opening a window at the top of my head and letting it all float out into space.

Wishing everyone peace and positive energy to continue their fast.

[star1919]

Hey Angeline... so sorry to hear about your migraine... hope you're feeling better soon... :)

[misslinda]

OMG Angeline !!!!! ME TOO......I started a MIGRAINE as well. It's been along time since i've had one of these. It was the kind, that lead me to road rage,cranky cranky cranky..........it started late this afternoon and it's now 8:45 pm and it's lingering so I just had some yellow dock and feel 90% better. You will get thru this, do some pampering to yourself if you can! Massage,hot bath,brisk walk etc.

Star1919, you sound at peace and I wish you well on your cont'd fasting. I have been indulging in warm tea myself. WHat ones do you use?

Shan, I admire your willingness to follow your heart. There are much more benefits to eating the [whole] food rather than juicing. That's why fasting is questionable. I use it as a last resort depending on health circumstance. I would love to hear your progression so keep us posted! Are you taking probiotics?

:)


Well fasters and friends, Today was a challenging day of allowing a MIGRAINE to take it's course. I've been listening to Dr Wayne Dyer's Awakened life over and over. I figure while I am less toxic and [open] while fasting, this would be a good time to welcome new thoughts.

[PDMagnusen]

misslinda, just thought i would pop in and check in on you guys. Are you still fasting? how many days for you so far? I'm sad I had to leave you guys - it's been about a week now! I was doing so well, too!

[misslinda]

misslinda, just thought i would pop in and check in on you guys. Are you still fasting? how many days for you so far? I'm sad I had to leave you guys - it's been about a week now! I was doing so well, too!


PDMAGNUSEN!!!!!! don't feel sad at all, you did awesome and you are more than welcome to pop in anytime even if you want to water fast every few days...........even if you dont' fat, you are more than welcome to be here!!!!

Yes, I am still fasting. Tomorrow will be day 14--WOW, hard to believe :eek: I thought it was day 10 or so.......

Thank you for stopping by and keep in touch with us :)

[star1919]

Hi All... :D

Hey Miss Linda... tea sure helps doesn't it? when, the cold sets in... as for kinds of tea... some green tea... and a variety of flavored teas I use for suntea. Hope your day is going well...

As for me, I'm feeling great today. In the last few days I was quite tired... not feeling as well. Finally, I realized that I had probably caught a virus that has been going around. So, I took some Colloidal Silver for a couple of days and it is gone! (that stuff is amazing... it has worked like that for me, other times too) I get it at the Herbal Healer site just in case anyone wants to check it out.

Anyway, I feel so good and energized today! Had some time in the sunshine too. Love that!

A gentle and good day...

[Angeline]

Thought I'd send out a quick post to send some good energy to those fasting. :-) You can't see the energy I'm sending, but believe me I'm sending it out.

Miss Linda I hope you are feeling better today and you are out of pain.

[Alwaystriving]

Thought I would jump in here and introduce myself. Misslinda, you're the greatest. Loved the 101 thread. I'm doing a five day water fast. Thursday and Friday were days one and two. The work I do is very physical: climbing, lifting, pulling, hammering etc. Previosly I was a bit scared of fasting while working. I've decided to use vacation time on Monday and Tuesday. I didn't need any enemas on day 1. Day 2: minor BM. Tomorrow, I'll do either the colema board in the morning or an enema. I will continue the colema board &/or enemas till day 5 when I'll get a colonic. I would like to start fasting four times a year, with the change of seasons. I wonder if I could do a longer fast--not this time--and continue working my job. Really tired now. G'night.

[misslinda]

Thought I would jump in here and introduce myself. Misslinda, you're the greatest. Loved the 101 thread. I'm doing a five day water fast. Thursday and Friday were days one and two. The work I do is very physical: climbing, lifting, pulling, hammering etc. Previosly I was a bit scared of fasting while working. I've decided to use vacation time on Monday and Tuesday. I didn't need any enemas on day 1. Day 2: minor BM. Tomorrow, I'll do either the colema board in the morning or an enema. I will continue the colema board &/or enemas till day 5 when I'll get a colonic. I would like to start fasting four times a year, with the change of seasons. I wonder if I could do a longer fast--not this time--and continue working my job. Really tired now. G'night.


Your most welcome Time and welcome aboard the fasting crew! It's interesting, I was just noticing your screenname at the bottomw of the log in list and thought, "What an inspiring sn" and here you are.....

I hope that you will find peace and strength in every moment.

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Today was better than the last few days. I went for a 2.8 mile talk/walk --a kind of self introspection/dialogue with mymind/body and spirit. Lots of left side stomach responses.

Had plenty of water and yellow dock. A serving of celery juice with water and more water tonite after foot and neck massage. I"m going to close tonite with focused meditation on my neck/jaw and left side of face. Cranial path.

Enjoy discovering you bodies language and love yourselves :)

[star1919]

Hi All... :D

Welcome Tim... Wonderful the fast you're doing!

Hey Miss Linda and Angeline... Hope all is going well for you. I've sure enjoyed the journey we've shared... Thank you!


As for me, a busy day... I'm doing well. I added some lime juice to my water a few times... but chose to keep it simple. I feel energized and light... and enjoyed an afternoon outdoors.

On Monday I am going to transistion into juices and raw soups. Then, I'll fast again in awhile. It has been a joy to share the journey with you... and has made a difference in my focus and success with all of this.

Thanks for everything! Would love to share another fast sometime... :p

Brightest Blessings and Joy...

[misslinda]

Hi All... :D

Welcome Tim... Wonderful the fast you're doing!

Hey Miss Linda and Angeline... Hope all is going well for you. I've sure enjoyed the journey we've shared... Thank you!


As for me, a busy day... I'm doing well. I added some lime juice to my water a few times... but chose to keep it simple. I feel energized and light... and enjoyed an afternoon outdoors.

On Monday I am going to transistion into juices and raw soups. Then, I'll fast again in awhile. It has been a joy to share the journey with you... and has made a difference in my focus and success with all of this.

Thanks for everything! Would love to share another fast sometime... :p

Brightest Blessings and Joy...

YES! Today is a better fasting day in terms of detox....

Most admiration to you on completing your fasting and ending when you feel is right. I will always be greatful for your presence and encouragement. Be well and see you again!!!!! :)

Angeline, are you still alive? :D

[misslinda]

* rise and shine *

Gray outside today but will go for a meditation walk.

Penta water

Freeeezzzzing so I will bundle up!

[star1919]

Thanks Miss Linda... :D

Today is the last day of my fast... it's chilly here too. So, I've put on a few layers and am toasty warm... :rolleyes: sure helps... and hot tea!


Here's to successful fasts! Wishing you a beautiful day...

[misslinda]

Thanks Miss Linda... :D

Today is the last day of my fast... it's chilly here too. So, I've put on a few layers and am toasty warm... :rolleyes: sure helps... and hot tea!


Here's to successful fasts! Wishing you a beautiful day...

* cheers *

Good times Star1919, best to you on this closing day! THe excitement begine tomorrow :D
--------------------------------

I'm starting to feel a little anxious as the first ten days went by fast. It's day 15 and 15 more days until thirty but 40 days was what I had tucked in the back of my mind b/c of spiritual reasons. I will take it day by day.

:)

[star1919]

Hey Miss Linda... I'm cheering you on! You're awesome with all of this! :D

40 days is something I've wanted to do... for the spirit too. I plan to fast again in awhile... and if I go that long... I'd be so excited!

Hope you keep posting... I'll be checking in to see how you're doing... :p

[misslinda]

eh eh eh, i'm procrsatinating this walk cuz it's so cold!!!!!!!!!! Fating doesn't make it any warmer either :rolleyes: Yes, thank you for the cheers, I know I'll be needing it.........Grrrrrrrrrr I've been thinking about food today. Sniff sniff.

For sure STAR1919, I will post as I go along. Ya know, these months go by so fast, before you know it, winter is here and another transition. Will you be fasting during seasonal transitions?

:)

[mindlikewater]

hey there, i know i've been missing, but school has really been weighing me down this past week:( my body has just been so weak that i have no desire to move much less focus all the attention i need to on my studies.

this week, however, has allowed for much needed self-reflection and insight. i will be vague so as not to bore you with details, but i realized just how unhappy i am where i am at and that i do not have to me stuck somewhere that will leave me empty.

i realized that i have not been following my own heart, but a whole slew of other things i thought i should be. already it seems a more clear path has emerged for me and hopefully soon i will be able to leave behind this wrong turn and be involved with what i am passionate about.

thanks angeline for your energy last week!!

and misslinda, you continue to inspire me every day.

love, peace, n' afro grease.

[misslinda]

hey there, i know i've been missing, but school has really been weighing me down this past week:( my body has just been so weak that i have no desire to move much less focus all the attention i need to on my studies.

this week, however, has allowed for much needed self-reflection and insight. i will be vague so as not to bore you with details, but i realized just how unhappy i am where i am at and that i do not have to me stuck somewhere that will leave me empty.

i realized that i have not been following my own heart, but a whole slew of other things i thought i should be. already it seems a more clear path has emerged for me and hopefully soon i will be able to leave behind this wrong turn and be involved with what i am passionate about.



Is the fasting overwhelming you Mindlikewater? I would love to hear about this development of self intorspection and what is evolving.......are you talking about what you want to do in life in reference to schooling?

btw, where are you attending school and what are you studying?

So glad you stopped in to chat! :)

[PATH301]

How many days is now for you misslinda? :confused:

[misslinda]

Today is day 16 and I have 3 hours and 49 mis until day 17

[Angeline]

Star 1919 congratulations on finishing your fast!

I didn't post yesterday because I kept making my laptop shutdown with my energy. I have been blowing out lights and freaked out a U-scan at the grocery store yesterday. I gave up on being near electronics for a bit. Today seems like my energy is in balance and my laptop likes me again.

I had my usual carrot and ginger juice yesterday and today. I also had a tomato, celery, kale, carrot, parsley juice yesterday. I've been increasing my water intake with cell-food infusion.

I was able to do Bikram yoga today and yesterday and I'm challenging myself to do a session of it everyday for the next 60 days. We'll see....

Dealing with feeling like ice liquid is running down my spine and I can't get warm. I've been meditating in front of the fireplace to warm up. I think the cooler weather has brought this on.

I don't know if I should mention all the increased kundalini energy from fasting in my system. I've been conditioned to keep that topic to myself.

Sending out peaceful energy to all of you.

Good night.

[misslinda]

Angeline, you use the Cellfood drops also? The little white bottle?? I love this stuff. ;)

You had some interesting experiences! Do you often experience those elector magnetic changes in general or only during fasting? :)

[Angeline]

Angeline, you use the Cellfood drops also? The little white bottle?? I love this stuff. ;)

You had some interesting experiences! Do you often experience those elector magnetic changes in general or only during fasting? :)

Misslinda, yep we are using the same cellfood drops. My Bikram Yoga teacher recommended their usage when I told her I was fasting. Good stuff, huh? :-) ( btw-thank you for tutoring me on how to do that quote thingy)

As far as the zapping electronics I've had that problem since I was 8. It happens off and on. I feel this energy thumping in the top of my head and it's prickly feeling. The two areas I have to guard while around electronics when I feel like that is my hands and my head. The top of my head tends to blow out lights, and my hands take out the electronics that I touch. On a regular basis I demagnetize credit cards, hotel room keys and anything with a sensor if I touch them. I am hoping this fast, and staying 100 percent raw will help to channel the energy in my system better so I don't have this problem.

Stay warm tonight and I hope you have a lovely day tomorrow. :-)

[misslinda]

On a regular basis I demagnetize credit cards, hotel room keys and anything with a sensor if I touch them. :-)


AMAZING!!!! how are you able to be on the laptop without totally intefereing with the electro mag waves?

Good nite and see you tomorrow :)

[Angeline]

AMAZING!!!! how are you able to be on the laptop without totally intefereing with the electro mag waves?

Good nite and see you tomorrow :)

When I feel that energy in my head I stay away from electronics. It's only credit cards and other cards I hold in my hand that seem to be a regular nuisance. Typing fast and not leaving my hands or fingers on the keys for too long seems to work.

[star1919]

Hi All...

Thanks Angeline... By the way, I have a friend that occasionally jams up electronic things... especially if she has been doing a lot of healing work.

Hey Miss Linda... doing seasonal fasts sounds great!

Wishing you all a peaceful and beautiful day... :p

[misslinda]

Goooooooooooooooorgeous day today! Blue skies,fresh crisp Autum air and bright changing colors of the trees.

What is both of yours take on the energy interference with electro mag waves. What do you believe is happening or why it happens?

:)

[PDMagnusen]

misslinda, can I send an email to your personal email account?

[misslinda]

"you got mail"

;)

[star1919]

Hi All...

Hey Miss Linda... it is probably just as you described... some sort of an energy interference. There was a study done with infra red technology that showed... that many nurses and doctors had more concentrated energy in their hands than other people tested. It was indicated that it may have been healing energy. Imagine if they had tested other types of healers as well.

Einstein talked about the energy of the universe. As did Stephen Hawking (author of A Brief History In Time). A variety of Quantum Physics scientists have been writing that everything in this world and universe is made of energy. Perhaps it shouldn't surprise us that things like that happen.

For me, I am sensitive to energy as well. My interests are in the healing arts and the spiritual side of things. And, many sages through the ages have spoken of the soul and energy etc. So, I don't have the answers... but do have the interest and heart for this.... like many of us.

Hope it has been a good fasting day... such a great path to be on!

Blessings and joy... :p

[Angeline]

Goooooooooooooooorgeous day today! Blue skies,fresh crisp Autum air and bright changing colors of the trees.

What is both of yours take on the energy interference with electro mag waves. What do you believe is happening or why it happens?

:)

I could give you the long version of what my take is on it, and explain the way my father explained it to me ( he's a retired college physics teacher who is now a college president) but it would be long and boring and I'm not really sure I understand it well enough. The shortened version is something to do with being so charged with energy that my system will attract ions and when it does it zaps things. Seems to be more intense when the energy outside changes quickly between storm fronts and during full moons and new moons also. I know it sounds strange, and I've come across many skeptical people in my life, but once they see it for themselves their minds open up a bit.

The short version of my take on it is that everything in creation is energy and we are all apart of the same energy. We resonate at different frequencies and are attracted to like frequencies and repelled by the opposite. I think maybe my system likes to soak up the energy around me a bit too much. In summary it's all phenomena and I just observe it, not worry about it.

Back to fasting.....it was a gorgeous day today. Clear sunny weather, windy and perfect temperature. I fasted on cucumber juice today water and did a 3 hour hike in the gorge. Did one session of Bikram yoga, kundalini yoga. I'm finding that meditating is getting deeper and time goes by very fast. I think that this fast is creating a clarity that I am getting addicted to. I may change my mind in a few days, but right now I'm at a high point that I hope will last.

Good night everyone and peace be to you.

[misslinda]

I could give you the long version of what my take is on it, and explain the way my father explained it to me ( he's a retired college physics teacher who is now a college president) but it would be long and boring and I'm not really sure I understand it well enough. The shortened version is something to do with being so charged with energy that my system will attract ions and when it does it zaps things. Seems to be more intense when the energy outside changes quickly between storm fronts and during full moons and new moons also. I know it sounds strange, and I've come across many skeptical people in my life, but once they see it for themselves their minds open up a bit.

The short version of my take on it is that everything in creation is energy and we are all apart of the same energy. We resonate at different frequencies and are attracted to like frequencies and repelled by the opposite. I think maybe my system likes to soak up the energy around me a bit too much. In summary it's all phenomena and I just observe it, not worry about it.

Back to fasting.....it was a gorgeous day today. Clear sunny weather, windy and perfect temperature. I fasted on cucumber juice today water and did a 3 hour hike in the gorge. Did one session of Bikram yoga, kundalini yoga. I'm finding that meditating is getting deeper and time goes by very fast. I think that this fast is creating a clarity that I am getting addicted to. I may change my mind in a few days, but right now I'm at a high point that I hope will last.

Good night everyone and peace be to you.


Star1919 & Angeline, thank your sharing your insight. I 'm always curious to know what other's peoples interpretation is on the "energy" issue. I find it fascinating how [sensitive] it is for some people in your case Angeline and your friend Star1919. Myself, I am hypersenstive to other's energies to the point of dizziness and can be in a dark room with no windows and feel when the sun is breaking thru clouds or shining real bright. Haven't demagnetized my cards yet ;)

I know what you mean by the clarity with fasting Angeline. It is to me the feeling of lifting off up to the highest sense of knowing,being and feeling. Sometimes I feel like I"m outside and watching the world from this feeling.....in a way able too.

Lately, I can sense someone's thought before they talk b/c like we were all talking about, we are energetic matter and the vibrations in these thoughts, process and manfest into words which I believe is a source of energy. So, then I feel that progression.........at least that is my take on what has been going on.

Today is a gentle day.....blue skies and crisp Fall Day. :)

[Angeline]

. Myself, I am hypersenstive to other's energies to the point of dizziness and can be in a dark room with no windows and feel when the sun is breaking thru clouds or shining real bright. Haven't demagnetized my cards yet ;)

I know what you mean by the clarity with fasting Angeline. It is to me the feeling of lifting off up to the highest sense of knowing,being and feeling. Sometimes I feel like I"m outside and watching the world from this feeling.....in a way able too.

Lately, I can sense someone's thought before they talk b/c like we were all talking about, we are energetic matter and the vibrations in these thoughts, process and manfest into words which I believe is a source of energy. So, then I feel that progression.........at least that is my take on what has been going on.

Today is a gentle day.....blue skies and crisp Fall Day. :)

Misslinda thank you for bringing that up about being hypersensitive to the point of dizziness when you are around other people's energy. I've tried explaining that feeling to my husband and he is very open and understanding, but if you don't mind I would like to be able to show him this thread so he can see I am not the only one. Yes, exactly, you are right about energy being in our thought processes that manifiest as words. You can feel the energy behind the words that are posted too. ( I hope that made sense) I hope you are out enjoying your gentle beautiful fall day.....and maybe find that perfect pumpkin.

As far as fasting today.....I am spiraling down into a severe migraine. I tried the cucumber juice this morning, and some lemon ginger juice this afternoon. Pain started to get worst so in a panic I made myself clean the whole house and get groceries for the family while I could still function. Now I'm feverish and think I am going to remind myself of all the benefits of fasting, and how I'm getting healthier. A bit ago I was thinking negatively that I am not making progress and these migraines should magically be healed forever. Then my mind started to sound like a spolied 5 year old whining about how I just wanted to be able to do Bikram yoga today and feel like I did yesterday. I went outside and sat in the sun, petted my kitty and breathed. There are worst things to deal with than a migraine, and I can get through this one too. I know healing is a process and takes times. I better have more patience with being patient.

I did decide to start the master cleanse as soon as this migraine leaves and see what results come from that. I'm thinking of the juice fasting I've done so far as a primer to the next phase. I hope that I am correct in that thought process. We'll see.

[misslinda]

Me too Angeline,,I have a migraine as well!!!! Oh boogerz :(

Yes, fasting has such climatical variances that make me feel on edge sometimes..."oh on another migraine?............now i'm itching.......dizzy!" then PLOP,next day I feel like a CHAMP.

Have you treated yourself to a nice body massage or cranial massage? Well deserved!!!!

You are so more than welcome to show your hubby that other people experience the same as you. what does he believe you are suffering from? I think for years I appeared to be a hypocondriac b/c when I came across people, I could sense the energies and depending on each person, I would feel good one minute,sick the next,happy or sad all in varying moments.

YOur right, we need to remind ourselves of the healing we are going thru even when it doesn't feel like it.

:)

[mindlikewater]

[QUOTE=misslinda]Is the fasting overwhelming you Mindlikewater? I would love to hear about this development of self intorspection and what is evolving.......are you talking about what you want to do in life in reference to schooling?

btw, where are you attending school and what are you studying?[Quote]

i am attending USF in tampa. i am a junior in biomedical sciences and i am working towards med school. i transfered from orlando, which is a nicer and much less compact town than tampa, so in part i've just been singing the homesick blues because i feel claustrophobic here, plus i've been having roomate issues.

i've also been feeling mainly just frustrated that in order to make the impact that i invision my life will be, i must take such a such a long road to get there, especially when much of what i'm learning seems so unimportant.

i've always had this desire to save the world (i'm an aries, what can i say?) and so i feel as if i must know everything and be perfect and do it NOW. this gets me into a lot of trouble with my emotions. lately for some reason i've had this sense of urgency like i am wasting so much time sitting around all day reading textbooks.

the vision i have for my life is to help bridge the gap between alternative and western medicine. to use raw nutrition as a means for healing and make the knowledge accesible to the general public; people who trust medical doctors and take their word on a dime, and who can't afford thousand dollar retreats to unlearn the nutritional lies made by our govenment.

it seems things are becoming more illuminated, but right now all i want to do is run through the hospitals and screem to everyone to quit taking medicine and start eating raw foods! last week i was about to hop on a plane to california and see what kind of job i could get in the movement there so i could start doing something, but i took a train to orlando instead. that was good for me and i walked around a park with my best friend planning ways we could put an end to GE foods and overthrow big corporations.

i guess for a while anyways i am stuck where i'm at because i realized that nowadays all my enthusiasm is worthless without a degree to back it up, so i'll just have to be patient because i suppose one cannot rescue humankind overnight.

(sorry if that was too much info or too radical, but i already gave you the short version.)
btw, i really enjoyed the energy talk, but i can't say any more right now b/c i've run out of my own energy.
peace

[Angeline]

Woke up this morning feeling nauseous, severe pain and pressure in my left eye and pain going down my neck and shoulders from bracing against a night and day fighting pain. Something strange happened....I didn't let my mind enter into the feeling of this pain. I sat still after waking up and let the pain talk to me. I didn't try to shut it out, or distract my mind from it. I felt like I immersed into it and there was this calm in that immersion. Something about fasting I'm finding is that there isn't anything to grasp onto. There isn't food, or sugar, things to distract my mind with when I am feeling pain or uncomfortable, stressed, irritable....the list goes on. I think that feeling this morning was surrender and I stepped out of myself and observed. I went through the day like this and it's still continuing. I went through Bikram Yoga and was close to passing out from pain and exhaustion but I just kept watching from outside and realized things were shifting inside not just physically but mentally, and spiritually. I closed my eyes after Bikram class and laid in savastana with the 105 degree heat wrapping around me like a blanket and I felt this peace I have never in my life felt before that brought me to tears. I felt my heart chakra pumping and prinkling and this heat went through it and up to my head making the pain increase in my head. I didn't feel self conscious, or ashamed of the tears streaming down my face because they were releasing this energy and I wasn't crying out of pain or sadness, but because I felt so much peace and my heart wanted to touch every living thing and hold it in that space and let them feel it. I don't know how long this feeling is going to last, but I'm not going to hold it tight, but just watch it and remember it.

Misslinda, I hope that your migraine is feeling better today. I thought about you more than a couple of times of today and wished you peace and good energy. After one day just drinking the lemon water from the master cleanse I feel a big difference. I didn't realize how much harder it is not to have the raw juices I've been doing these last weeks. Wow, I have respect for how you've been fasting.

[star1919]

Hi All... :D

Just checking in... Lovely the sense of peace you experienced, Angeline. Hope it has been a good day, Miss Linda.

MLW... Your passion is wonderful. As you pursue your present goals, it surely seems in time... you'll find inspired and valuable ways to combine it with your passion and dreams.

A peaceful beautiful day...

[misslinda]

:) Star Star, there you are! Great to see you as your illuminating presence is so warm. Are you eating raw or wht has post fasting been like for you?

Another migraine today folks. Today was with a slight fever and I am riding on up and down emotions.

:) Mindlikewater, do you think maybe the choice of school may be a factor? I hope you find peace wherever you are and know that no matter where you are, you are valuable and significant to that time and place. Keep in touch.

:) Angeline, I hope you are feeling better. I'm doing my best to send you vibrant exhilirating light.


~_~ Me, while meditating

[star1919]

Hi All... :D

Hey Miss Linda... Thanks... Hope you're feeling better today... detox seems to be a process... wonderful your commitment to fasting!

As for me... juices and fruits... but am missing the fasting. Am thinking to return to it.

A beautiful peaceful day...

[misslinda]

Hey peoples!

Boy does detox get interesting..........

I'm heavily detoxing in my head and my vagnial area (sorry to be so abrupt). I feel like everything is moving up or down :p My femer that I broke when I was 5 years old, radiated a pulsating pain.

I wish you all joyous adventures !


:)

[misslinda]

Today was a better day. More on the mental/emotional side of detox/healing.


I hope you are all finding Harvest season colorful and ever so changing during your fasting endeavors...... :)

[star1919]

Hey Miss Linda... :D

Hope your day is going well... you're doing great!

go Miss Linda... go Miss Linda... go Miss Linda...


Have a fun and peaceful day! :p

[LightLover]

Today was a better day. More on the mental/emotional side of detox/healing.


I hope you are all finding Harvest season colorful and ever so changing during your fasting endeavors...... :)


* the colours change, while the leaves loose their chlorophyll.

Will we also have less need for this stuff?

LL

[misslinda]

* the colours change, while the leaves loose their chlorophyll.

Will we also have less need for this stuff?

LL


.... you intrigue me LL! I believe nature is a reflection of our own proscess....we will always need it ;)

Grazie Grazie Star1919, as I needed it today!!! :D

Had an onset of "emotional detox" and I felt it stirring up inside ( I was literally shaking inside and becoming jittery and ansy)....well I had a visitor this morning and @^$&*%)(%!%)_)%^ yeah, it was intense.

I eventually let in an onset of tears and went for an hour walk and absorbed the sunlight.

Back and now feeling :: open :: ~:~:~~::~: listening to "Fairy Heart Majic" by Gary Stadler. My favorite energy healer introduced these songs to me and it has the incredbile tones and rhythms to help faciliate that peaceful linear pattern inside.

:)

[LightLover]

.... you intrigue me LL! I believe nature is a reflection of our own proscess....we will always need it ;)

Grazie Grazie Star1919, as I needed it today!!! :D

Had an onset of "emotional detox" and I felt it stirring up inside ( I was literally shaking inside and becoming jittery and ansy)....well I had a visitor this morning and @^$&*%)(%!%)_)%^ yeah, it was intense.

I eventually let in an onset of tears and went for an hour walk and absorbed the sunlight.

Back and now feeling :: open :: ~:~:~~::~: listening to "Fairy Heart Majic" by Gary Stadler. My favorite energy healer introduced these songs to me and it has the incredbile tones and rhythms to help faciliate that peaceful linear pattern inside.

:)


* MissL My point was: in the winter nature seems to have less need for chlorophyll is it so that humans also have less need, as we are supposed to follow nature?,
but it is much more interesting if you say that nature is reflecting our
state of needing less chlorophyll. It is just:

a) do you find this world extreme?
b) if yes, dare to be extreme!! :eek: :cool: :rolleyes: , because you will become the counterweight and turningpoint on which the world will glide
to more normal proportions. So thanks for being extreme... :D

[misslinda]

* MissL My point was: in the winter nature seems to have less need for chlorophyll is it so that humans also have less need, as we are supposed to follow nature?,
but it is much more interesting if you say that nature is reflecting our
state of needing less chlorophyll. It is just:

a) do you find this world extreme?
b) if yes, dare to be extreme!! :eek: :cool: :rolleyes: , because you will become the counterweight and turningpoint on which the world will glide
to more normal proportions. So thanks for being extreme... :D



Double YES! I believe once we restore our own natural state and survival mechanisms, we wil not need that much food and nutrients to sustain.

I also believe there are other souces of nourishment that sustains us to create this balance like LOVE,spiritual/religious rituals etc,touch,thought/perception.......

How do you feel about this issue LL?

:)

[LightLover]

Double YES! I believe once we restore our own natural state and survival mechanisms, we wil not need that much food and nutrients to sustain.

I also believe there are other souces of nourishment that sustains us to create this balance like LOVE,spiritual/religious rituals etc,touch,thought/perception.......

How do you feel about this issue LL?

:)

I feel a lot about this issue ML, will try tomorrow, but it is 1:00 local time, I have to go to bed, I am very late, the birds have been waiting for hours for me.. and they wonder where I am..in the morning they will complain.. :)


"Come forward into the light of things"
"Be slowly the bird's song becoming light"

LL

[misslinda]

See you tomrrow LL! Sleep well :)

In case any of want to hear the "Fairy Heart Magic" CD, here is a link to sample. I love tracks 4,5, and 12. My energy healer use to always start our sessions with #4. I'm so glad he introduced me to Gary's music. Number twelve is my personal favorite of how I feel about my life journey.

http://www.amazon.com/Fairy-Heart-Magic-Gary-Stadler/dp/B00004Y6OZ

;)

[misslinda]

Angeline, hope you are doing well. :) Was thinking about you on my walk today.

[rawgirlie]

just dropping in to give you all support!

you all are doing so wonderful!

[star1919]

Hey Miss Linda... Hope your day is going great! :D

As for me, I started another fast today. After looking over the holidays and other things coming up... I realized that it would be months before I could do the longer fast I'm wanting to do. So... I will get this one in just under Thanksgiving... I hope it goes well. I've been wanting to do this for a couple of years... I'm excited to get it in before the year is out!

Thanks for the link to Fairy Heart Magic... It is lovely... I ordered one for myself and a couple for stocking stuffers... loved it!

A bright and beautiful day... :p

P.S. Hey Rawgirlie... how thoughtful!

[misslinda]

Rawgirlie, sooooooooo sweet of you to give us the CHEER! Muah backatcha :)

Star1919, Hoooooooooray, now I don't feel so lonely, I agree, the holidays are coming and this fasting will keep us on the calmer side. Tell me what you plan on doing or what you tend to do differently.

You purchsed the Fairy Heart Magic.....which track is yur favorite so far?

---------------------------------

Today I spend about 3-4 hours meditating and sleeping. Lot so emotional movement and kidneys flushing more.

[Angeline]

I haven't been able to give much support here lately, but so glad to see that you are doing ok Misslinda and that star1919 is joining us again. :-)

I've been in bed with severe migraine, since .....too many days to count. I don't see any end to this pain. It's relentless. I also feel like I have the flu. I'm not sure if it's detoxing symptoms or the flu or maybe a bit of both. Too tired to walk up and down the stairs or barely get out of bed. Sorry for the negativity. I don't mean to be negative at all. I don't feel negative inside, mostly just observing this process and I do know it will end. It's much like a pendulum that is swinging back and forth. One end of the spectrum feels like a fasting high and then it swings to a low. The low point means healing is happening and that is the whole point of this. I can't wait to rest in the balance of the middle and stop swinging.

I've been following the recipe for the master cleanse since last Wednesday. The last two days I've been too tired to make the lemon juice so I've been drinking lots of distilled water. I have to get some energy back and feel the desire to make the juice. I haven't had any desire for anything but sleep and meditation. I don't want to quit no matter how hard it gets.

I hope that everyone has a peaceful day tomorrow.

[misslinda]

so glad to hear from you Angeline, was getting concerned.

I don't want to discourage what you have been doing but have you tried something "invigorating" like ginger juice,red clover or dandelion. I'll offer those incase you decide to experiment.

I realllllllllllly admire your patience with fasting...........I wanted to give up so bad the other day but TA DA, another day...................and another day..............and another day :rolleyes:

[Angeline]

so glad to hear from you Angeline, was getting concerned.

I don't want to discourage what you have been doing but have you tried something "invigorating" like ginger juice,red clover or dandelion. I'll offer those incase you decide to experiment.

I realllllllllllly admire your patience with fasting...........I wanted to give up so bad the other day but TA DA, another day...................and another day..............and another day :rolleyes:

I think ginger juice with the lemon sounds like a great idea. I've never tried dandelion but I'm open to experimenting.

We are both tenacious, we'll get to the other side of our fast and walk in the sunshine.

Ahh yes.....I know that mantra of "on to another day, and another"

Good night and hope you sleep well Misslinda.

[star1919]

Hey Angeline... Hope you're feeling better soon... you're sure hanging in there... Congrats with that! And, your meditating...

Hey Miss Linda... Wow... you're clocking some time with this fast! You're such an inspiration! Yea Miss Linda!

As for me, it feels great to be back fasting! This time I will be focusing on drinking more water throughout the day... I'm looking foward to the journey... and love that I'm enjoying fasting... so positive!

As for Fairy Heart Magic... I listened to the online demo for the songs... I ordered it via Amazon... so it hasn't arrived yet. Loved the demo... Thanks for mentioning it!

A bright and beautiful day... :p

[misslinda]

Star, great to hear you are in high "spirits" .....Angeline and I could use a
dose of that beaming light you radiate! :)


To all the fellow fasters,

Boy, today marks the MOST intense emotional/mental detox. I am in a very vulnerable position and find myself needing to sit quietly and be away.

Pains seem to be alot in my forehead,left side and face

I hope you are all finding inner strength to accept your body's healing. :)

[star1919]

Hi All... :D

Hey Miss Linda... Hope it is a great day! I was reading another post... you are so knowledgable and quick to help. You're awesome... and make such a difference to this site! :p

As for me, it is a chilly day... light snow falling. I am so glad to be drinking some tea... and warmed water with cayenne. It makes such a difference. I'm glad to be fasting... And, enjoy all the seasons of nature... each has it's own special beauty and gifts.

A bright and beautiful day...

[LightLover]

Double YES! I believe once we restore our own natural state and survival mechanisms, we wil not need that much food and nutrients to sustain.

I also believe there are other souces of nourishment that sustains us to create this balance like LOVE,spiritual/religious rituals etc,touch,thought/perception.......

How do you feel about this issue LL?

:)
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* I feel the following MISSLINDA, about this issue:

The heart has to be full, the stomach and mind have to be "empty", or better said: they have to be "at range" or do you say "at distance" ? (the mind has to be as less as the little laserlight you are shining with on your sheets to point to the object you want to focus attention on, when giving a desktop presentation. It is like what the budhists call: "taming the elephant":
most of our toughts go at the same time in all kind of directions, we have to "bring the elephants home", where our focus is).

Only when circumstances are like this, there is enough room/space for the spirit (the spirit, I don't mean the consiousness, but I mean "the one" that is expressing itself and which is both the dancer and the dance) to move and connect everything. Then we come closer to ourself and to everything else.

I believe in being emty: the whole universe's chord has been created out of emptiness.

My main interest is to put on one line the lessons I learn from reading physics and literature and Budishm etc.., and from my own writing and own living.

It is not easy, it's changing every minute, but if you can bear this ever changing stuff, it is worth doing and interesting :)
---
LL


---
LL

[Angeline]

Another low key day. I'm still doing the master cleanse phase of this fast. Finally able to catch up on some housework, artwork, writing and some gardening. I can't wait to get back to Bikram yoga. Not much eventful happening as far as physically. Spiritually and emotionally things are evolving in ways I don't know how to describe. I'm falling into deep meditation when I sit still and feeling the energy of life around me like a pulse.....it pulses inside my heart and rises into the top of my head, and then I lose time and identity. Then a thought comes and pushes me to come out of it and into action. I feel like it's not me doing the action. It feels like the action is being done through me, like this body is the tool or something. I really don't know how to describe it.

At 7 pm I do my peace meditation and that is when I am sending out energizing but peaceful energy to all who are fasting. I'm hoping, praying we all find the healing and evolution to what we are supposed to be no matter how hard this process is.

[misslinda]

Another low key day. I'm still doing the master cleanse phase of this fast. Finally able to catch up on some housework, artwork, writing and some gardening. I can't wait to get back to Bikram yoga. Not much eventful happening as far as physically. Spiritually and emotionally things are evolving in ways I don't know how to describe. I'm falling into deep meditation when I sit still and feeling the energy of life around me like a pulse.....it pulses inside my heart and rises into the top of my head, and then I lose time and identity. Then a thought comes and pushes me to come out of it and into action. I feel like it's not me doing the action. It feels like the action is being done through me, like this body is the tool or something. I really don't know how to describe it.

At 7 pm I do my peace meditation and that is when I am sending out energizing but peaceful energy to all who are fasting. I'm hoping, praying we all find the healing and evolution to what we are supposed to be no matter how hard this process is.


LOW key is it Angeline,,,,,I so konw what you mean, i feel I need to be "away"

You described exactly what I have been experiencing off and on (if I am understanding you ).....it's in some way, kind of l ike being outside of yourself yet it is not you.....like being in two places at once. I feel divided. :confused:

Lightlover, WOW, I need to read your post over again. what kind of work do you do btw?

Star1919, * thank you for the sweet words * I couldn't do this without any of you. It's one complete circle.........never ending :) Glad to hear you are feeling peaceful!

[LightLover]

MISSl, I do support for traders a bank, but try in between to dream and think etc...

I want to ask you , Angeline and others: don't you loose a lot of weight fasting for so long?

I did fast for 10 days and my surrounding was saying that I was really beginning to look thin. My face also was diminishing, so I stopped, altough I felt good while fasting Don't you have this (local) weightloss ?

LL :)

[star1919]

Hi All... :D

Hey Angeline... seems your sense of energy and spirit is key right now... wishing you blessed experiences... also thanks for the peace meditations for those fasting... seems there are quite a few fasting at this time.

Hey LightLover... I can't answer your question for the longer fasts... as I am in process of that. Prior to this, my experience is with shorter fasts. I like what you shared... About the heart being full... the stomach and mind being empty... That the Universe's chord has been created out of emptiness... very inspiring!

Hey Miss Linda... interesting what you shared with Angeline ... fasts sure seem to shift one's awareness... and loved what you said about the circle of life and all... beautiful!

As for me, I am still surprised by how much keener my senses are... in vibrancy of colors... sounds seem much louder... sensing energy on more subtle levels. Today I've had some emotional clearing... part of the detox... it seems I've shifted into the fast process more quickly this time.

Wishing you a blessed and beautiful day... :p

[LightLover]

Hi star1919, let me know if you are more progressed in your fasting what you think about the "weightissue" , I am curious.
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I like your bottom-sentence: I guess if love would be always the answer
there are no stupid questions...? :D :D
--

ll

[mindlikewater]

Hello beautiful people!!!

Sad to say, i am forced to sign off this fast...something was said about emptiness...but i am not in a position that allows me to have that empty mind, and fasting has become an unhealthy stress right now...i am very dissapointed, but chemistry just looks like garble with a brain that feels of mush...(Kb*1/Kw=Nx10HCl^-3339%@????)...

i am glad to have fasted though... even in a couple weeks and with far too much distraction one does learn so much...

another note on emptiness...which by the way is much more difficult than we realize...some buddhists spend their entire lives trying to truly understand how exactly to leave behind all association of a self...in fact one cannot even say "I am emptying myself" b/c the moment you refer to the 'I' or 'me' you have really just filled yourself...so do not forget that emptiness is not just what you can do to your OWN body and mind, but it also calls for action of sacrifice on the part of the self in order to fill up others...

i remember a nice Bible passage from when i was younger and religious that puts it well...
"Is not this the fast that i have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and to break every yoke? Is it not to give your bread to the hungry, and that you bring the poor that have been cast out to your house? when you see the naked, that you cover him; and turn not away from your own flesh and blood?
Then shall your light break forth like the dawn and your health shall spring forth speedily..."

Have strength for your fasts, everyone...and though i will not fasting physically with you, i believe i will contiue to fast in different ways...

mucho muchoXOXOXOXO
MLW :)

[star1919]

Hi All... :D

Hey MLW... Congrats on what you accomplished! All the best, with your wonderful goals and passionate heart. You have bright roads ahead! Enjoy the journey and all that you are!

Hey LightLover... I would think weight loss varies greatly depending on where a person is, when they start a fast. I'm enjoying the simplicity of water fasting right now... and appreciate the value of a longer fast... for deep cellular cleansing. And, the spiritual journey of an extended fast. I would think other types of fasting could provide these benefits as well.

Miss Linda is so wise about fasting and may be able to offer more insight.

What you shared... about the universe creating from emptiness... has me intrigued! I am considering clearing even more of my activities as I'm able... to seek even more simplicity and quiet... during this fast.

Brightest joys and blessings... :p

[Angeline]

Help......please if anyone can give me insight I'd be so grateful. I feel like I am breaking down big time today over and over. Crying off and on and feeling very scared about symptoms that started today. I've never had a candida outbreak before so I wasn't really sure what was going on, but now I am certain. What I am hoping is that since doing the master cleanse it is discharging out of my system at a fast rate. What I am fearing is that something I am doing is causing this to happen and maybe making it worst. All that I am ingesting is distilled water, juiced organic lemons with cayenne and raw blue agave to sweeten as per the recipe on the master cleanse (actually they call for maple syrup) I also started taking a liquid probiotic of acidophillus and the rest of the strains. I started taking parastroy supplement to help my system combat any parasites while doing this fast. My question to anyone who might have experience or knowledge regarding this is could you please tell me if I'm doing something to make things worst, or if I'm causing a rapid sugar, yeast die off and it's coming out too fast. Does having such an intense release of it mean that it's just trying to leave your system at a fast rate? I am hoping this is the case. It's also causing some internal bleeding and pain in my lower right quadrant of my stomach. Feels like intestinal cramping or something.

I was supposed to go on a dinner cruise with my husband tonight for a company thing. It was a big deal to him and very upscale dining, with piano player singing, and drinks. I have a monster of a migraine tonight. I was honest with him. I told him I'm trying with 110 percent of all my will to heal my system and to have to sit with all of these formally dressed people and watch them eat and drink alcohol while I sit with an empty plate and glass of water is really not going to be fun. I usually force myself to do things with a migraine no matter what because I hate to disapoint the people I love. It was overload of too much to deal with tonight. I disapointed him badly. I haven't been able to stop crying all night. I should have been stronger and put him first. I feel wretched about it all inside. I'm scared about this candida and how to make it stop. I read the article you put up a few weeks ago Misslinda and I'm grateful for that imformation.

I hope I didn't bring any negative energy to anyone with this post, or make anyone think that fasting is a bad thing. It's hard and the symptoms you go through are a testament to why it is so needed to bring balance to your health.

I wish everyone peace, and again I apologize for this negativity. I'm just scared and confused about what is going on.

Lightlover to answer your question about losing weight on long fasts...I was 122 pounds starting out and now I'm at 108. I'm 5'3" and half inches so that is not a low weight for me. From research on this subject I believe what you are losing is all damaged cells, superflous matter and stuff you really didn't want in your system to begin with. When the white coating on your tongue disapears and your appetite returns that is the point the body might start digesting healthy tissue that you don't want to lose. I'm sure that if I go lower in weight a good portion will come back on once the fast is over.

Wishing everyone peace!

[misslinda]

[COLOR=DarkRed]Crying off and on and feeling very scared about symptoms that started today. I've never had a candida outbreak before so I wasn't really sure what was going on, but now I am certain.

I also started taking a liquid probiotic of acidophillus and the rest of the strains. I started taking parastroy supplement to help my system combat any parasites while doing this fast.

My question to anyone who might have experience or knowledge regarding this is could you please tell me if I'm doing something to make things worst, or if I'm causing a rapid sugar, yeast die off and it's coming out too fast.

Does having such an intense release of it mean that it's just trying to leave your system at a fast rate?

I am hoping this is the case. It's also causing some internal bleeding and pain in my lower right quadrant of my stomach. Feels like intestinal cramping or something.

haven't been able to stop crying all night. I should have been stronger and put him first.

I hope I didn't bring any negative energy to anyone with this post, or make anyone think that fasting is a bad thing. It's hard and the symptoms you go through are a testament to why it is so needed to bring balance to your health.



Hey Angeline,

Warmest hugs there my good friend. Peace with you and know that you are not alone.....

I know what you mean by "fear" of symptoms, I myself have been experiencing ones that made me want to quit or freak out :o The last few days with "hard to breathe" issues...........

Nonetheless, lengthy fasts that go past 20 days, need to be taken day to day as dealing with detox can be overwhelming to "us" and to our "bodies." So please don't feel pressured in any shape or form.

How long ago did you have Candida?

I myself do not have Candida....but what I have read and experienced in terms of my own personal symptoms, an abrupt onset of a past condition etc more than likely "residue" of that condition/disease, releasing. I say that in terms of general outline of fasting. Sonds like stage three.

Did you have Candida years ago? How do you know it is Candida?

What do you mean by internal bleeding?

When did the stomach pains start in relation to this parasite stuff?

How long has this migraine been going on?

What kind of parasite killer? How long have you been using it?

Are you taking the probiotics at night or morning and what source is your PB?

Have you tried red clover Angeline?

Did the crying just happen or does it only happen when you are thinking of something?




You have offended noone, this is what we are ALL here for Angeline, fasting is intense and I use to notate "Fast at your own discretion" b/c it can be just as what we are experiencing ;) .

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Lots of left side ab pain and I'm getting slight diarrea :cool:

[Angeline]

Hey Angeline,

Warmest hugs there my good friend. Peace with you and know that you are not alone.....

I know what you mean by "fear" of symptoms, I myself have been experiencing ones that made me want to quit or freak out :o The last few days with "hard to breathe" issues...........

How long ago did you have Candida?

Did you have Candida years ago? How do you know it is Candida?

What do you mean by internal bleeding?

When did the stomach pains start in relation to this parasite stuff?

How long has this migraine been going on?

What kind of parasite killer? How long have you been using it?

Are you taking the probiotics at night or morning and what source is your PB?

Have you tried red clover Angeline?

Did the crying just happen or does it only happen when you are thinking of something?

Lots of left side ab pain and I'm getting slight diarrea :cool:

Misslinda, I re-read my post and I wasn't clear in what I said. I said I've never had candida before. What I meant to type was that I haven't had any before this fast. I've had one other outbreak when I was 26 11 years ago. My doctor gave me diflucan to take but it didn't help. I cut out all sugar, starches, carbs and sugar while taking acidophilus supplement and I rid of it. I wonder if I ever got rid of it and it's been in my system, just not noticeably to me. I re-read the article that you linked Shan to and I've had the symptoms of candida for years, just not with any external symptoms to take note of.

To answer your questions I am taking acidophilus called Continental acidophilus. It is a liquid that you take one tablespoon of in the morning and at night. It has all of the strainsd in it. I started taking parastroy last thursday because I thought it would be a good thing to do while fasting. The ingredients in the parastroy are too many to list so here is the link to it. http://www.cliffscott.com/parastroy.htm.

The crying started today. I think it's because I'm tired and I don't want to go through another 4 days of migraine pain and nausea like last week. All of this boils down to my thoughts getting away from me and letting fear take over. Not a good combination. I do know that this won't last and that the spiritual aspects of this fast makes all of this physical misery worth it. What I am going through physically won't last. I am hoping that this is what they call a healing crisis and all of these symptoms showed up at once with such intensity because the candida is dieing off fast. The stomach pain, intense discharge, and bleeding all started today.

I hope that your symptoms alleviate for you soon. I remember there were two days for me last week where it was hard to breathe for me. It felt like there was something constricting my lungs and it felt heavy in my chest. I'm sorry you are feeling that. It's a scarey feeling. If you get overwhelmed or need to cry or vent to anyone during the rest of this fast feel free to email me. I don't have as much know edge or experience in the area of fasting as you, but I have an open heart to listen and care with.

Thanks again Misslinda!

[misslinda]

Angeline, when did the stomach pains start?

This is only my opinion, but I really think as potent as the Master Cleanse is on it's own, I belive adding the Parastroy may be too much for you. Some of the ingredients actually have the capability of destroying our good bacteria. I'm assuming your PB is a non diary form.....I would suggest taking it before bed so it has time to work thru your gut.

Another thing, this internal bleeding?

This is eastern thinking but migraines are associated with the LIVER. I really think you are experiencing TOXIN over load. If you want a suggestion, I would try red clover. Yogi tea has a great tea called FASTING or you can get alcohol free red clover extract and mix it in warm water.

Oh, that article, what's common is some of the symtoms are also linked with leaky gut syndrome --qualifying Candida as a auto immune condition.

I really believe that you are experiencing DETOX overload and would suggest stopping the parastroy while doing this fasting on Master Cleanse since that in itself is very POTENT.

It's challenging b/c during fasting, we are sensitive to movement yet we need vigor to keep our main toxin filtering organ --LIVER happy so like ginger,dandelion,red clover are a few essentials we can use.

Those are only my personal opinions Angeline. At any time you feel really uncomfortable, don't feel pressured continue. Take it day by day.......

I will email you directly tomorrow. :)

[star1919]

Hi All... :D

Hey Angeline... hope you're feeling better soon...

Hey Miss Linda... sorry about Zeus... so hard to lose a cherished pet... gentle grace with that...


As for me, I was going to start a 30 day internal cleanse to go with my fast... but am thinking it's best not to do that now. Don't want to overload the liver and all. Will just let the body clear at it's own pace naturally.

I'm going to channel my extra energy into some creative projects while on this fast... enjoying time away from news, TV etc. I look foward to unfolding in a quieter creative time.

Wishing you a gentle good day... :p

[misslinda]

I look foward to unfolding in a quieter creative time.

:p

Thank you so much for the loving words Star1919.

Sounds good to me about the "unfolding in a quieter creative time." :) I have some projects that came up as well and will be focusing on those as well.

Angeline,please keep us updated.

I will be back later.

:)

[LightLover]

[COLOR=DarkRed]Lightlover to answer your question about losing weight on long fasts...I was 122 pounds starting out and now I'm at 108. I'm 5'3" and half inches so that is not a low weight for me. From research on this subject I believe what you are losing is all damaged cells, superflous matter and stuff you really didn't want in your system to begin with. When the white coating on your tongue disapears and your appetite returns that is the point the body might start digesting healthy tissue that you don't want to lose. I'm sure that if I go lower in weight a good portion will come back on once the fast is over.

Wishing everyone peace!
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* Thanks Angeline for your remarks: "
When the white coating on your tongue disapears and your appetite returns that is the point the body might start digesting healthy tissue that you don't want to lose".
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I will try to remember the tongue stuff for my next fast, didn't look at it at the previous one.

Wishing you and all the others a smooth fast!

LL
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[LightLover]

Hi All... :D

Hey MLW... Congrats on what you accomplished! All the best, with your wonderful goals and passionate heart. You have bright roads ahead! Enjoy the journey and all that you are!

Hey LightLover... I would think weight loss varies greatly depending on where a person is, when they start a fast. I'm enjoying the simplicity of water fasting right now... and appreciate the value of a longer fast... for deep cellular cleansing. And, the spiritual journey of an extended fast. I would think other types of fasting could provide these benefits as well.

Miss Linda is so wise about fasting and may be able to offer more insight.

What you shared... about the universe creating from emptiness... has me intrigued! I am considering clearing even more of my activities as I'm able... to seek even more simplicity and quiet... during this fast.

Brightest joys and blessings... :p
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* In fact I was not so precise star 1919, because emptiness doesn't exist (that is the place where all the buddha's are living..)

A better word is "space", meaning the absence of form.
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LL

[LightLover]

Thank you so much for the loving words Star1919.

Sounds good to me about the "unfolding in a quieter creative time." :) I have some projects that came up as well and will be focusing on those as well.

Angeline,please keep us updated.

I will be back later.

:)

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* MISSL: you are an wise old soul with a youg face :)
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LL

[LightLover]

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* MISSL: you are an wise old soul with a youg face :)
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LL

I can't live with these spellingerror's!:

* MISSL: you are a wise old soul with a young face :)

LL

[Angeline]

Misslinda, How are you doing today? I had to find out who Zeus was, and found he was your fish. I'm so sorry he passed. I understand, I've fallen in love with many goldfish. They are companions and I've always missed and cried for them when they passed.

I found some redclover in a detox tea and had some this afternoon. I also contacted my doctor who was able to fit me into a late appointment. He did an ultrasound on the area that was most painful on my lower abdomen. He found an ovarian cyst that had grown large and looked to be partially ruptured. It's a bit painful, but at least I know now what the source of pain and bleeding is coming from, and also why I was so emotional yesterday. ( hormonal upheaval from hormones entering bloodstream from the cyst. I decided that the best thing to do is not stop this fast while it's trying to heal itself from this candida. I'm just going to take it day by day and listen to what my system is telling me to do. I prayed that this fast would help me to become nothing ( free of ego ) and I think that going through these physical symptoms is part of the process of the ego being scrubbed away.




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* In fact I was not so precise star 1919, because emptiness doesn't exist (that is the place where all the buddha's are living..)

A better word is "space", meaning the absence of form.
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LL
Exactly! I think of emptiness, or maybe better said experience emptiness as absence of form, absence of mind (thoughts, especially ego) absence of all identity. It's that space of consciousness that is all light, all love, and the face of your true Self (God consciousness) staring back at it's own self. (all of creation) I hope that made sense. This concept is one of those that are hard to put into words to describe because words can't hold or convey it.

I hope that everyone is having a relaxing night, wishing you all peace.

[misslinda]

Angeline, first, I"m am so happy you found out what was causing the pain. What does that mean for you, will you still be able to fast under those conditions.........I take it a ruptured cyst is a good thing? Meaning, it is breaking down?

Are you feeling a little better today?

:)

[misslinda]

Lightlover, I was actually quoting Star1919 who said "unfolding in a quieter creative time...."

I missed your question about fasting and weightloss. The first week, typically 2 lbs and then curtails to half to a pound a day. then slows down as the fasting progresses.

:)

[PATH301]

Hey LL,
everybody will be different,
The first fast I did as a RAWbie I lost 10 lbs
csecond fast I think it was another10 -12 lbs :D

[star1919]

Hi All... :D

Gentle healing for you... Angeline

Wishing you a wonderful creative day... Miss Linda


It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood (as Mr. Rogers used to say). Sunlight sparkling through the trees... warm blue skies... just enough breeze to hear the magical song of wind chimes...

I've been thinking about formless energy... the point of creation and creating... attracting...

It's a busy day... yet I am so glad I gave myself this time... I feel renewed... Fasting is such a gift... in the simplicity of it... I find myself more open... more aware...

Today I'm focusing on staying in the moment... not having my thoughts rush ahead of where I am... and the day feels different with this focus... which shows me how often I am not in the moment... :rolleyes:

A bright beautiful day to all...

[Angeline]

Angeline, first, I"m am so happy you found out what was causing the pain. What does that mean for you, will you still be able to fast under those conditions.........I take it a ruptured cyst is a good thing? Meaning, it is breaking down?

Are you feeling a little better today?

:)
I'm feeling really peaceful and sleepy today. Decided to give myself the morning and afternoon off and rest. That cyst rupturing is a good thing, just not a fun thing and it is breaking down. I think it was this fast that caused it. I think I'm on the right track and will continue to fast until my system tells me otherwise. I don't have a goal of losing weight, or any reason other than wanting to help my health and gain more spiritual clarity. If I take it day by day and listen to what my body is telling me I think I'm doing the right thing.

How are you feeling today?

[Angeline]

Hi All... :D

Gentle healing for you... Angeline

Wishing you a wonderful creative day... Miss Linda


It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood (as Mr. Rogers used to say). Sunlight sparkling through the trees... warm blue skies... just enough breeze to hear the magical song of wind chimes...

I've been thinking about formless energy... the point of creation and creating... attracting...

It's a busy day... yet I am so glad I gave myself this time... I feel renewed... Fasting is such a gift... in the simplicity of it... I find myself more open... more aware...

Today I'm focusing on staying in the moment... not having my thoughts rush ahead of where I am... and the day feels different with this focus... which shows me how often I am not in the moment... :rolleyes:

A bright beautiful day to all...

Sounds like you are having a peaceful day star1919. :) I hope the whole day continues like this for you and through the weekend.

[LightLover]

[QUOTE=misslinda]Lightlover, I was actually quoting Star1919 who said "unfolding in a quieter creative time...."

I know..It doesn't change the situation :)

ll

[star1919]

[LightLover]---
* MISSL: you are an wise old soul with a young face :)
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I second that! ...of being a wise old soul, Miss Linda

...and very intelligent too... :p



Hey Angeline... what a deep healing process you're in... so much is possible with spirit and the body's capacity to heal... hoping for a gentle journey for you in the coming days... and joy for your beautiful spirit...

[misslinda]

:~:~::~:~:~::~:~:~::~~:~:~:~:~:~:~

Friday Fever. You know, I'm still in search of the right pumpkin and I just realized that TODAY is already October 20th and Halloween is in 11 days. :p here I thought, I had at least another month to prep.......

Greetings fellow fasting friends.....


I take that as a compliment Lightlover and Star191 ;) I almost feel like I should grow a white long beard.

How is Lightlover doing these days? Are you afraid of fasting b/c of the weightloss part? What type of fasting are you planning on? I hope all is well adn that your days are adventurous :)

Star1919, have you ever read any of Jon Kabat Zinn's books. He is one of the four meditation gurus in the USA that focuses on the "moment" :)

It truly is amazing how much we live in the past and the future. Thank you for addressing this as I have been living in the past these few days.

Angeline, AWESOME to hear. I wish you continued healing and peaceful reprise.

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these past few days, I have been having migraines,hives and slight bm's.

[LightLover]

[QUOTE=misslinda]:~:~::~:~:~::~:~:~::~~:~:~:~:~:~:~


I take that as a compliment Lightlover and Star191 ;) I almost feel like I should grow a white long beard.
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How is Lightlover doing these days? Are you afraid of fasting b/c of the weightloss part? What type of fasting are you planning on? I hope all is well adn that your days are adventurous :)
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* I am very fine misslinda, I am glowing, feeling like a fish in an aquarium,
and the water is refreshed everyday. :) I am hyperactive .

I Hope you feel my strength a little and can join the flow.


* I stopped fasting: everyone was saying I was better looking before fasting, one girl said" you were looking mich nicer before", and
I am very sensitive...what would you do?

* i miss the spiritual support of fasting, I felt like my head was painted white inside, like an undescribed paper so light and clean and promising, but now I have done it and experienced, my imagination will help me call back all these benefits whenever i need these

* my next plans: a) follow a 4 week very low sugar diet, high in greens and whole food supplements, high alkalizing, with quality fats and after that
b) a 4 week high sugar fruit diet. And then I will be able to compare these 2 diets. Sounds good..?

* I am gonna start a thread very soon: "metabolic types" , need you all there,
it is about the question if the factor with "metabolic type " you are is more important for the efect of a food, than the food itself!

* gonna start a thread, in a few weeks, about spirituality, love, mysticsm, (quantum-) physics, mindfullness, and everything we can connect to this.
Would be nice to see you all there!

* I need an english word for " something that is not made from matter/dust, like the spirit soul etc..., someone knows a better word than "unmaterialized"?
must be 1 word, not 2.

* taking a long white beard won't protect you against our compliments,
we will look deeper than this.. :D

[LightLover]

* gonna start a thread, in a few weeks, about spirituality, love, mysticsm, (quantum-) physics, mindfullness, and everything we can connect to this.
Would be nice to see you all there!

* Anyone knows a nice name for this thread?

LL

[Angeline]

* gonna start a thread, in a few weeks, about spirituality, love, mysticsm, (quantum-) physics, mindfullness, and everything we can connect to this.
Would be nice to see you all there!

* Anyone knows a nice name for this thread?

LL

You will see me there Lightlover. Quantum physics, and mysticism are two great interests that I relate to and love to read on. As far as a name goes all I can think of is Cosmic Consciousness maybe or cosmic energy. I'm sure you will come up with a good name. :-)

Misslinda how is your migraine doing? I hope you are having as beautiful of weather as I am today and can get out and enjoy it.

Are you having another peaceful day Star1919?

I am outside on my patio listening to the windchimes, the wind blowing through the fir trees and leaves on the trees. In the distance one of my neighbors is practising their bongos. A few houses down there is the sound of construction going on, that makes a nice beat, timing in with the bongos. When you close your eyes the smell of fall leaves, the feel of the sun, and the symphony of chimes, wind, bongos and construction makes this cascade of electrical energy rise to the base of my skull. It stays there for a while and prickles, then another cascade rushes in again. I'm not sure what that is, but I like the sensation. The energy around me can rush through me, past me and all around me. I can sit for hours and let it without my mind having to step in. It all just is, and so am I.

My daughter and I are going to the ballet tonight. Rachmaninov, Franz Listz, and Mozart are the featured composers that the symphony will be playing. The choreography is going to be from George Balanchine. I am excited about the stimulus from the music, the lights and watching the ballet. It will be fun. For now I have my own little symphony to listen to and enjoy. :-)

Wishing all of you the same beautiful day and peace I feel.

[star1919]

Hi All... :D

Hey Angeline... loved your description of sounds blending together... with the energy moving through, past, and around you... The ballet sounds like a lovely evening with your daughter!

Hey Miss Linda... did you find the 'right' pumpkin? :rolleyes:
Oh, I found an audio book by Jon Kabat Zinn on Amazon... Thanks for mentioning that!

Hey LightLover... your spiritual energy thread sounds very interesting!

As for me, I had some detox stuff last night... so I was up a bit. There was an early snow... a light fluffy snow that covered the ground... and shimmered in the moonlight. There was such a stillness... a quiet timelessness. I stood outside for quite awhile... it was beautiful...

Wishing you a magical peaceful day...

[star1919]

Hey All...

A family emergency has come up... don't know when I'll be back.

You've done sooo great... with such long fasts! Hope the coming days are good for you... I've sure enjoyed sharing the journey... :p

Brightest Best...

[LightLover]

Hi Angeline, I wonder how the ballet was?
Reminds me of a text from the "Ruckert Lieder" , put on music by Gustav Mahler. Do you know these?
I will try to translate:
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"I have turned away from the world
And find rest at a place of silence.
I am alone, in my love,
in my world, in my song".
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This is about fasting and many other things, isn't it..? :)

Star&Linda, : don't bother to much: if love is always the answer, who cares for the questions?

LL

[misslinda]

Did someone say Gustav Mahler??? I remember playing in the symphony ---"The Planets!"

Hello Lightlover,Star1919 and Angeline!

I need to catch up on everyone's posts

[LightLover]

* Do they speak German in the U.S.: :D

this is the text of one of the "lieder":
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ll
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Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen

Ich bin der Welt abhanden gekommen,
Mit der ich sonst viele Zeit verdorben;
Sie hat so lange nichts von mir vernommen,
Sie mag wohl glauben, ich sei gestorben!

Es ist mir auch gar nichts daran gelegen,
Ob sie mich für gestorben hält.
Ich kann auch gar nichts sagen dagegen,
Denn wirklich bin ich gestorben der Welt.

Ich bin gestorben dem Weltgetümmel
Und ruh' in einem stillen Gebiet!
Ich leb' allein in meinem Himmel,
In meinem Lieben, in meinem Lied!

[misslinda]

good morning fellow fasting friends!

So great to see you all gracefully handling fasting. It really is a "treat" away from EVERYTHING. I hope all is well and you continue to discover the emotional,mental,physical and spiritual dynamics that take place---I'm amazed at some of the changes I have been too.............

Star1919, I *hope* your family emergency settles well......my most warmest thoughts and prayers are with each and every one of you. Be well!

Angeline, I"m excited that the cyst is breaking down and I am so in awe of your emotional and physical threshold. Most to your healing...

Lightlover, I look forward to fating with you one day!!! I know very little German,,,,,which I am ashamed b/c my cousins are half German. I do know one phrase "Mein gebiss ist zer brokhen." I may spelled a few wrong....

I made a mistake........Gustav Mahler did not compose The Planets, that was Gustav Holst. However, there is a wicked---very wicked symphony by Gustav Mahler that is horrbile to play!

BTW, I'm taking a small break from the boards to focus on some work/personal projects. I find that this is the time to do that and fasting has brought me to this................please share your fasting experiences and I will be sure to catch up when I return.

:)

[LightLover]

[QUOTE=misslinda]good morning fellow fasting friends!

Lightlover, I look forward to fating with you one day!!!
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* Anyone know what "fating" means? :confused:
I have no idea, it sounds English, but also Chinese to me..
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LL

[PATH301]

LL,
misslinda meant "fasting"
Some times her fingers move faster than her mind.......LOL :D

[LightLover]

LL,
misslinda meant "fasting"
Some times her fingers move faster than her mind.......LOL :D

Path, I am glad for you see is away and can't read your text :D

[LightLover]

Lightlover, I look forward to fating with you one day!!! :)

- Do you mean sharing "fate" ? :D


ll

[LightLover]

[QUOTE=misslinda]
BTW, I'm taking a small break from the boards to focus on some work/personal projects. I find that this is the time to do that and fasting has brought me to this................ :eek:



please share your fasting experiences and I will be sure to catch up when I return. :)

LL

[Angeline]

Hi Angeline, I wonder how the ballet was?
Reminds me of a text from the "Ruckert Lieder" , put on music by Gustav Mahler. Do you know these?
I will try to translate:
---
"I have turned away from the world
And find rest at a place of silence.
I am alone, in my love,
in my world, in my song".
--
This is about fasting and many other things, isn't it..? :)

Star&Linda, : don't bother to much: if love is always the answer, who cares for the questions?

LL

I am familiar with that quote. :-) Llewelyn Vaughn Lee who is a Sufi writer made reference to it in one of his books. It truly does pertain to fasting. Turning away from the world, fasting out the external stimulus, cravings and desires that keep us from delving into the heart where all is silent, where the love song of divine consciousness can be heard and felt. I really like that quote, thank you for sharing it.

The ballet was absolutely wonderful! Music performed perfectly as well as the dancing. My daugher loved it and so did I.

Misslinda, I'll be sending you good energy while your gone. We will miss you til then.

Hope everyone has a good night!

[Angeline]

Feels like a vacant room now on this thread. I hope that everyone is doing well.

Still taking it day by day, trying to get as much sun as I can before the endless days of rain come.

Take it easy all, and peace to you.

[LightLover]

It is not totally empty out here..

LL :D

[Angeline]

Thanks for peeking in and saying hi Lightlover!

Hope you are having a peaceful night. :-)

[misslinda]

quick "hi"

still fasting and take care!!!!!!!

:)

[LightLover]

quick "hi"

still fasting and take care!!!!!!!

:)

* Ah, Misslinda, she is painting our white paper with all her colours... :)


LL

[LightLover]

Read with Attention: this proves: fasting makes you not only grow
in spiritual ways, but also in physical ways.

www.newscientist.com/article/dn10386-fasting-may-boost-recovery-from-spinal-injury.html


LL

[PATH301]

very interesting article LightLover - thanks :)

[Angeline]

Lightlover-my browser won't allow that article to pull up for me. I'll have to copy the address and try a different computer. It looks interesting though.

Today I ended this fast. My tongue is pink, appetite is back with a craving for protein. I had a tomato, celery, carrot, parsley, and spinach juice mix this morning. Had some more carrot, parsley, and spinach juice this afternoon. Tonight I had a creamy carrot cilantro soup. I'm craving cucumbers, but that will have to wait til tomorrow. I have to break this fast slowly, and so for now will keep to juice and soups until my system is ready to digest again. Had a lot of energy today, and feeling in high spirits.

My neighbors are having a very loud, very intense vibration of party for an early halloween celebration. My husband and I were invited but neither of us like the drinking and smoking pot scene with loud music. They are having fun and I'm trying to focus on calm thoughts. Tomorrow maybe I will get to sleep some.

Hope everyone is having a great weekend!! :-)

[LightLover]

Angeline, here is the text:

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Fasting may improve recovery from spinal cord injury, according to a new rodent study.

Injured rats that were only fed on alternate days showed half the spinal cord damage compared with their normally fed counterparts after several months. The findings add to a growing body of evidence that calorie restriction can boost recovery from a variety of injuries.

Ward Plunet at the University of British Columbia in Vancouver, Canada, and colleagues created lesions in the spinal cords of a group of rats. Half of the animals were able to eat whenever they wanted, while the other “fasting” half were fed only every other day.

Over the course of these two months following the initial spinal injury, fasting rats showed slightly better improvement in their ability to complete a ladder-climbing task than their counterparts. Inspection of the rodents’ spinal cords then revealed that the lesions were 50% smaller in the fasting animals than the control animals.

Overzealous cells
Other studies have shown that a calorie restricted diet started several months before an injury such as stroke can protect neurons from dying. This is the first to show that calorie restriction can help after injury too, Plunet believes.

He suspects that fasting helps because it dampens the body’s immune system, causing fewer overzealous immune cells to reach the site of spinal injury. These cells sometimes block off the site of injury to such an extent that they prevent nerve regeneration.

Calorie restriction appears to make the cells in the spinal cord more sensitive to growth-promoting proteins, Plunet adds. Spinal cord biopsies from the animals in his study showed that the cells of fasting rats had more functional copies of a receptor that responds to a chemical that boosts nerve growth.

Profound changes
The study findings may seem counterintuitive, since people who are sick are often encouraged to eat more to help their body heal, Plunet admits.

“The findings challenge conventional medical protocols for severely ill, traumatised patients,” says neurosurgeon Michael Fehlings at Toronto Western Research Institute, Canada.

However, he says, patients with spinal cord injury have undergone a major trauma to their body, which can result in profound metabolic changes that potentially leave them at risk of malnutrition, which fasting may exacerbate.

“Nonetheless, the current research is of major interest and suggests a novel therapeutic approach for spinal cord injury,” Fehlings adds.

Plunet presented the findings at the annual Society for Neuroscience meeting in Atlanta, Georgia, last week

[tinystrawberry]

MissLinda, how long have you been fasting? You are amazing :D

[misslinda]

I'm facing some deep challenges with fasting right now.....

I feel like the curtain is wavering between what is and what "if"

Major migraines have appeared again and pain, pain and pain.

Work is keeping my busy and "emotional" but much to appreciate as fasting has given me the threshold hold to be focused more.

It is towards the end.......but we shall see.


Happy Halloween...... :)

[LightLover]

Work is keeping my busy and "emotional" but much to appreciate as fasting has given me the threshold hold to be focused more.

It is towards the end.......but we shall see.


Happy Halloween...... :)
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Focus MissLinda, just try, there is always a way back:

Be that burning piece of wood thrown into the dark night.
Don't be more, but certainly don't be less :)
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LL

[star1919]

Hi All...

Hey Angeline... Congratulations on a successful long fast! Hope your transition goes great too!

Hey Miss Linda... Thanks for your kindness and prayer regarding my family... actually it was my Dad.
Big congrats with your ongoing fast... you're awesome! Hope you're feeling better today... and enjoying your time.

As for me, I wasn't able to sustain fast last week... but will be starting another fast soon. It's such a change for me... that I enjoy fasting now. Love that!

The fairy magic cd arrived while I was gone... I look foward to hearing it. Hope you found a great pumpkin... and are having a chance for some creative things... and all you enjoy.

Wishing everyone a festive and fun halloween! :D

[misslinda]

Warning: Content maybe triggering emotionally/physically


Hi Fasting Friends......

:( :o I'm in a different world these days. Perhaps the fasting is "opening" up all my channels and exploring the issues I never faced fully before. Fasting has ended and I've transitioned into apple/celery juice with a few apples a day.

To be quite honest, I've been experiencing all kinds of feelings on many different levels while fasting and "reconstructing" my life since injuries/illness/depression. Is RAW right for me?

As I am coming out of my shell, I am forced to face the questions regarding my social,cultural,spiritual,physical and emotional adaptations with RAW life. Can I completely dismiss my asian upbringing? Cooked rice,hot barley tea drunken for decades after decades,old remedies that involve the use of heat? How intimate can it be in a room full of family members if I cannot par take in a traditional ritual of a special cooked tea that signifies unity?

So then I am looking at my asian face (well have hawaiian in me but not dominant ) and wonder if I am giving up my "heritage" in some way,shape or form..............isn't it like a Christian who doesn't carry his/her own cross??? A doctor who doesn't wear a lab coat? A soldier who isn't wearing camaflouge? Then the light bulb goes on...............

Well isn't that true, we know we are RAW b/c we eat raw and have rituals that display us as a raw fooder---right? So, then I hear my "self" saying....."Who am I ?" If I am giving up many foods that are a [significant] parts of my cultural influence then what?

Here's a thought.....I cannot walk into a Asian tatami room bow and kneel down with family to sip tea...........*disruption* change and explanation if I interrupt the respectful moment to rummage thru my bag for a alternative for the tea................

Rebuilding my life. Work is busy. Many of my business contacts are people that burn money and have more to burn. The typical conversations involve the latest great wines they sipped at a friend's wine bar. They talk about some of their favorite exotic foods........again, this is part of their culture! All I can say is "Oh no, I do not eat that" end of discussion. Why would I give my feedback to something I don't know about and why would they want to share when I cannot understand? There is a level of clear [disconnection] and less common ground to walk on.........

I'm not saying RAW is bad or not right for me BUT right now, I am evolving,changing and struggling to "fit in." Part of me feels right to wake up tomorrow and have hot barley tea and a bowl of rice for lunch.........THEN the other part of me fidgets and shakes at thinking about cooked food. NO WAY! Cooked is not good.

What is my purpose of RAW? Health? Am I intending to want to live to be past 120 yrs old? Maybe I don't want to live past 65,78 or even 80????? If all that matters is the very moment, then why not live as it is?

I needed to share my thoughts b/c I belive my fasting is shedding some deep layers of my thinking ability,inability and imagination/realities.

I think RAW is like true LOVE...........intimate and forever and quite honestly, I have never been in love. I do not know what it means to be with something forever. I have always "run away" from everything. Nothing is permament...........

The only intimate relationship I was ever in, I walked away from without notice. I can't own a few a pair of shoes and wear them out.....so I stock over 82 some pairs to keep changing them (on and on) .......my toothbrush color changes weekly b/c the same color makes me feel enclosed........I rearrange my room everyday to make me feel like I'm somewhere else.....the theme, changing,a transient.........b/c I am shunned by permanency/COMMITTMENT. Commitment to life? Living?

I don't know. I'm tempted to go back into fasting mode.......as the edgedy--nervousness of my old "ed" days have been haunting me. *cringes* I feel like an " in the closet" backsliding ED head. Sick thoughts and behaviors have slowly creeped up again. I cannot stay still or stop counting calories for every little thing and divide portions after portions until their is nothing to divide. I have to admit, I've been engrossed in a completely unrealistic mindset of what healthy is. I think back to my ED days and I feel somehow "relinquished" and proud and I do not know why. All I know is, I am there again. perhaps this is deep healing.

[pause]

:confused:

[LightLover]

Hi Miss, I know that feeling: you stare into the abyss, and the abyss stares
back. :eek:

I will come back to you, it's to heavy to react spontanously :)


In love and light
LL

[star1919]

Hey Miss Linda... Congrats on your loooong fast! :p

Sounds like you've been thinking about some deep and important things... and that you're in some deep healing as well.

So many layers for many of us... such a process isn't it?


Wishing you gentle days in your healing journey...

[misslinda]

* chuckles and sighs *


I knew that during [post] fasting, the toxin release can be even more intense and it seems alot is taking me on an emotional/,mental enterprise. Last night, I finally made headway.

I dreamed that I am looking out at a sunset and saying "I am going to make it and one day,I will make that call,walk away and do it. It's going to happen."

I eliminated my licorice and red clover for now......too many phytoestrogens --perhaps. ;)

[star1919]

Hi Miss Linda... :p

[LightLover]

good morning fellow fasting friends!



Lightlover, I look forward to fating with you one day!!! I know very little German,,,,,which I am ashamed b/c my cousins are half German. I do know one phrase "Mein gebiss ist zer brokhen." I may spelled a few wrong....

I made a mistake........Gustav Mahler did not compose The Planets, that was Gustav Holst. However, there is a wicked---very wicked symphony by Gustav Mahler that is horrbile to play!


:)

* MISS: before you leave please explain what you would like to do with me:
"fating" is not in my beloved vocabulaire...?

* And remember: you can go away, but you can never, never leave us... :)

LL

[misslinda]

* winks at Star *

Feel like my head has been put thru a ringer......

Lightlover, I'm am so sorry!!! I meant "fasting" not fating. My typing skills are too efficient.

[LightLover]

missL: In that case: we will definitely do that if you like!. In any case a short fast, I am not yet sure about doing longer,
..but I will make it up with more words. :) .

LL