What's the most nutritious food??

[dreamrawalwz]

I'm just looking for your opinion! I've read recently on the thread about bananas that they're one of the most nutritious foods for you or the "perfect" food. Well, I've read that about A LOT so...which one is correct? Heck, they say fish and dairy are "perfect" foods. I've also heard about blueberries, flax seeds, olives, algae, seaweed, ect. I'm just cuirious as to what YOU think!

[pinkglttr]

ORANGES/ORANGE JUICE!!!! Yum! :p

http://www.sunkist.com/healthy/oranges.asp

[Nini]

baby coconuts

[misslinda]

MY #1 most nutritious food ....

FOOD for the soul!


then an apple



I mean but seriously, I dont' believe in one type of food being the most nutritious. :)

[Draginvry]

The most nutritious food is arguably human breast milk. Although that may not be true once you are out of puberty.

[Sunshine9]

SUNLIGHT!

otherwise the nutritious food would probably have the most minerals.. soo

Wheatgrass.

[GreenPrince]

The origin of bananas as the "perfect" food is old ad campaigns from the big internationally market dominating banana company.
They didn't tell the true as you can see if you compare the ads with analysis data of the contents of a banana.

Green leaves is the perfect food (mineral profile, amino acids and vital substances).

Combine with energy dense food (calories).

Btw, why not with some bananas? The dominating content of the wild chimpanzees' diet.
SCD - Standard Chimpanzee Diet.;)

[Narz]

Chocolate is the most nutritious I've found - look at the minerals : http://nutritiondata.com/facts-B00001-01c21QF.html

Keep in mind also that nutritiondata is measuring conventially grown chocolate. I'm sure organic would be much higher in many nutrients.

[GreenPrince]

You are kidding!:D

Chocolate isn't a food, you can only use a small daily amount of it.
Otherwise you will completely smash your health!

The cacao tree was spread northward from Amazonas by human beings
and animals who only ate the fruit pulp, but spitted out the cacao beans.

[X-Minded]

I'm just looking for your opinion! I've read recently on the thread about bananas that they're one of the most nutritious foods for you or the "perfect" food. Well, I've read that about A LOT so...which one is correct? Heck, they say fish and dairy are "perfect" foods. I've also heard about blueberries, flax seeds, olives, algae, seaweed, ect. I'm just cuirious as to what YOU think!

No food is perfect... all food is poision... fruit is just the LEAST harmful...

[X-Minded]

All food is POISON... I eat 1 piece of fruit a day... my body is all the better for it, having reached my ideal weight of 98 lbs at 6'3... I'm now contemplating breatharianism... I'll weigh up my options upon completion of my 52 day purification fast... I think I've transcended the desire for such mundane and worldy things as FOOD and SEX... I laugh at these SAD eaters with their plates of DEAD flesh and UNNATURAL sexual urges (any is probably too much). Even most raw foodists eat MUCH more than they actually need!!! ADDICTED to PLEASURE!!!

- Love, peace, light and ASCENSION!!!

- X-Minded

[sport]

All animals eat. We need a comparable amount of food to other animals our size.
There is nothing wrong with sex and sexual urges are natures way of insuring the continuation of the species.

[Seren]

:eek: If food is poison then why do we need it to live? Yes, in excess, nothing is good for us but raw food is GOOD for us, not poisonous.

Seren xXx

[X-Minded]

You only NEED to eat because you THINK you need to eat, you've been conditioned to think that way...

[dreamrawalwz]

You only NEED to eat because you THINK you need to eat, you've been conditioned to think that way...

Then why do those that don't get enough to eat starve to death and die?

[rawfigure]

I like the chocolate idea...but from my viewpoint it is the dark leafy greens and Kelp.

[X-Minded]

Then why do those that don't get enough to eat starve to death and die?

Because they THINK they're gonna die, it's a mental thing...

[sport]

And have all other animals been conditioned to think that they need to eat and who started it all.
Tell me who it was and I will punish them for it. How dare they influence every animal that ever lived.

[Seren]

X-minded, people who get anorexia don't think they are gonna die, they think that if they lose enough weight then they will be happy, not die. Plus, thinking you are gonna die doesn't kill you....it's your physical state that kills you.

Seren xXx

[Seren]

And another thing, if we aren't meant to eat, what's our digestive system for huh?

[X-Minded]

"thinking you are gonna die doesn't kill you....it's your physical state that kills you"

One influences the other...

[Seren]

Have you ever met anyone who is a breathatarian and lived more than a few months?

[sport]

I recall that a few years ago a woman in Scotland died as a result of thinking that way.
That was the first time that I heard the word breatherian.
This is not an urban myth that just gets carried about. This was covered by all the news channels and papers over here because there was talk of bringing charges against the movement leaders in Germany that had influenced her.
You have got to start realising that every creature (animal or plant) needs food and always did.

[dreamrawalwz]

All food is POISON... I eat 1 piece of fruit a day... my body is all the better for it, having reached my ideal weight of 98 lbs at 6'3... I'm now contemplating breatharianism... I'll weight up my options upon completion of my 52 day purification fast... I think I've transcended the desire for such mundane and worldy things as FOOD and SEX... I laugh at these SAD eaters with their plates of DEAD flesh and UNNATURAL sexual urges (any is probably too much). Even most raw foodists eat MUCH more than they actually need!!! ADDICTED to PLEASURE!!!

- Love, peace, light and ASCENSION!!!

- X-Minded

I don't see how breatharianism works....the human body is 73% water. You can die after 3 days of water...sometimes it'll stretch into a week, but it's dangerous in my opinion. Your weight and height worry me, actually.

[X-Minded]

Yes, but you don't read about it in the newspapers or hear it on the news because the SERPENT controlled media won't want you to know about it... they rely on people's DESIRES to control them... through FOOD, SEX, ENTERTAINMENT etc...

[sport]

I want to live so I am going to eat.

[dreamrawalwz]

And another thing, if we aren't meant to eat, what's our digestive system for huh?

EXACTLY! All of our organs are used for something and put there for a reason. Fruit is grown on tress for a reason....to be eaten. If they were never picked we'd be overrun by fruit all over!!

[X-Minded]

I'm not saying don't eat... just that most people eat much more than their BODY (not taste buds) actually NEEDS...

[sport]

I'm not saying don't eat... just that most people eat much more than their BODY (not taste buds) actually NEEDS...
I think that we would all agree with you on that one.
The sad thing is that half the world are starving to death while the other half are killing themselvs with too much food.
Sad that we can not find a mid point where everybody would have enough.

[X-Minded]

I'm joking by the way... eat what and when you want... food is good...

98lbs at 6'3, LOL!!!

[sport]

I'm joking by the way... eat what and when you want... food is good...

98lbs at 6'3, LOL!!!
we want to see a recent photo as proof.

[sport]

I'm joking by the way... eat what and when you want... food is good...

98lbs at 6'3, LOL!!!
If you were joking then Monkeyboy is going to be very upset.
He is the one that does the jokes around here and you will have to face him in a joke off for the throne.

[Seren]

There is no living person that has been a breathatarian for longer than a few months without dying. What does that tell you??

[X-Minded]

Chill out, eat, whatever...


Got to go...

[dreamrawalwz]

I'm joking by the way... eat what and when you want... food is good...

98lbs at 6'3, LOL!!!

Didn't sound like a joke to me b/c you kind of kept going on about it (not the height/weight, but that food is poison and bad).

I agree that half the world is starving while the other have (Western!) is killing themselves with too much. I think calorically they human body needs less than what is said. Thing is I think the body on a raw diet will slowly work down to needing less food as the digestive tract heals and food is better assimilated.

[vgloveforlife]

There is no way that x-minded could have been serious.

[sport]

There is no way that x-minded could have been serious.
I do not think that it is out of the question and I am concerned for him. It was true about the lady in Scotland so I know that it is possible for someone to develop this kind of misguided belief.
I hope that you are right. Maybe it was monkeyboy in disguise.

[dreamrawalwz]

ANYWAY, back to the most nutritious food!? lol

[X-Minded]

To clarify, I WAS only joking earlier.

To anyone with a history of eating disorders or anything like that, I was speaking a load of bollocks!!! Don't stop eating!!! LOL.


98lbs at 6'3 ? 52 day purification fast? Get the hell out!!! How could you fall for that ?!


I was just mimicking some of those pseudo-spiritual, New-Age zealots who use diet as a way to put themselves on some kind of holy pedestal. These things I found quite funny.

http://www.beyondveg.com/nicholson-w/29reasons/29reasons.shtml (no. 26 lol)

http://www.beyondveg.com/tu-j-l/toxic-foods/toxic-foods.shtml




About the over/undereating stuff -



SHOULD WE UNDEREAT?

“What do you think of “undereating”?

“Dr. Gabriel Cousens writes, “The most important single rule in nutrition is undereat!" He continues “This rule takes precedence over all other dietary advice… In experiments with animals, the undereaters 'in general, were more youthful, vigorous, and energetic, when compared to normals, and showed minimal to no chronic degenerative diseases.'”

ANSWER: First of all, let's define OVER-eating. I think pretty much agrees that overeating is eating beyond one's needs. So using the same definition, UNDER-eating just means eating below one's needs.

Is that good? How could eating less food than what the body needs be healthy?

In fact, it is not.

What these authors mean when they talk about “undereating” as being a healthy practice, they simply refer to eating less concentrated and refined food. It doesn't mean eating less fruits and vegetables or restricting oneself on the quantity of fruits and vegetables eaten.

Most of the experiments that concluded that undereating increases lifespan were done on laboratory animals. The wrong conclusion of these studies is that eating less of EVERYTHING is somehow good for health.

If you're a lab mouse and you're being fed the kind of diet that lab mice get, then you're probably going to live longer on half of the stuff!

If you're a human on a standard American diet then you're also probably going to live a lot longer if you just cut the quantities of food in half.

However, if most of what you eat is fruits and vegetables, then you'll need to eat MORE. Why? Because fruits and vegetables are not very concentrated in calories, but they are concentrated in nutrients. So to get enough energy you eat more food, but at the same time get more nutrients.

This concept is called “nutrient density.” It just means that it's healthier to eat foods that give you more nutrients per calorie “dollar.” So 1000 calories of fruits and vegetables are going to give you a lot more nutrients than 1000 calories of bread and meat.

With whole fruits and vegetables, it would be very hard to overeat, since those foods are nutrient-dense. However, it's quite common to UNDEREAT and thus be hungry all the time, lose too much weight, and so on. This kind of under-eating is certainly not a good thing.

But a standard diet is so toxic and concentrated that just by reducing the amount of food you eat you are certain to improve your health.

ON FRUGAL EATING

“Your best-kept secret from last issue was very interesting. But I keep thinking that the greatest health secret is the one exposed by Cornaro: eat and drink as little as possible. Cornaro consumed one liter of liquid per day and one pound of food. He ate of everything (eggs, meat, etc.). But the principle of frugality seems to be very important to me, even of prime importance. What do you think?”

ANSWER: Regarding frugality, it helps those who have an unhealthy diet. The consequences of the traditional diet lessen when one practices frugal eating. They can then live longer and in good health. But someone eating mostly fruits and vegetables will need to eat much more. Those foods are not concentrated, so we need to eat more to fulfill our needs. If we try to restrict ourselves, we may well fall into worse mistakes. Not eating enough is a common mistake of people who attempt to follow a raw diet. It's important to eat enough for our energy needs. But with a regular diet, I agree that frugal eating helps.


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Though I am a strong believer in the power of thought, hence some people I know eat what most here would consider to be rather poorly, but they do it joyfully and without worrying that the food is less than perfect, etc, so they stay fairly healthy. Better to do that than obsesss. I'm currently in fairly poor health, but I believe that's largely down to my psychological state of mind, not diet as some idiots had me believe.


To answer the original question, mango is the king, period!!!

[X-Minded]

Here's some interesting stuff:

No natural system needs to be moderated because moderation was never a part of any natural system. What's a moderate amount of bullet in the head anyway? Any amount of bullet in the head is an excess amount of lead. Any amount of cooked food is an excess amount of cooked food because it's all bullet in the head! Is there an excess amount of watermelon or avocado? Of course there is but there's no need to moderate raw foods as they are part of natural systems. As you hone your true body your true body will tell you how much you need to eat. Until then know that your can handle any load you're able to cram down your throat. The body has no problem of any kind. Overeating the right kinds of raw foods probably won't even slow you down a bit. Just think about all the cooked food everyone eats everyday! Your body has to work really really hard to process cooked food through your system but the body recovers quickly from even the worst raw food combo abombo's. Compare that with ripe fruit. Ripe fruits are already predigested for you. To process them your body doesn't have to struggle at all. They are the human design. Exclusively living off perfect fruit is the biggest secret for maximum longevity. This is the exaggeration I like using. "Sit on the toilet and eat so much fruit you're poohing and peeing as your eating!" Don't stop and don't limit your intake until your body and mind come together and just says, "No!" Watermelon is the best because it makes you pee the most. I'm not going to the bathroom anymore I'm making room for more watermelon! Go to the store this very second. Buy two big watermelons (or enough of whatever fruit is in season) and eat them exclusively throughout the day. Eat in the day when you can see. Don't eat at night. At night you can't see fruit on the tree which is a hint it's best not to eat at night. Systematically shove two watermelon's down your throat. The time to go berzerk on watermelon (or on any fruit) is when it's in season. Go on a mono diet of watermelon for it's entire season. Every perfect fruit is perfect nutrition. Variety is not necessary. The best nutrition plan is to choose one type of fruit and eat it exclusively for as long as it is in season. Take massive raw foods action. Start eating perfect fruits and don't stop! Live life in abundance not in scarcity. There are thousands of oranges on an orange tree not dozens or hundreds; thousands. Don't live your life in scarcity. Live life more abundantly by modeling success. It's okay to eat fruit! It really is. Don't forget there are people in the world who weigh a thousand pounds and are still alive somehow! Not exclusively feasting on fruit is the cause of all disease conditions. For some that's a revelation. Fruit starves all disease. Fruit sugar is the only thing that will forever overcome blood sugar imbalances such as diabetes, candida and hypogycemia. If you're still afraid of fruit go raw on massive salads and other green things for a couple weeks, get massive doses of sun and then it's back to fruit! Anyone telling anyone not to eat fruit for any reason is a moron who has no idea what they are talking about. Telling someone, "Don't eat fruit," is committing a crime. It's a criminal act. Oranges and tomatoes may aggravate arthritic pain and swell the joints so, in ignorance, arthritis sufferers are told not to eat them. Removing the "s" from swell spells well! The swelling is a sign your body is healing. If you're not into pain then just switch to fruits that don't cause it. When I first went raw oranges would swell my fingers to double the size so I switched to grapefruit. What's so complicated? Now I eat oranges no problem. Every fruit is perfect. Nature made no mistake. They are all equal cleansers. I smile when I listen to people discussing the cleansing effects of wheatgrass juice. Have they ever heard of aaap-ple!? Stick your face down into a tray of wheatgrass, take a big bite and pull up. Notice the grass breaks off at the base. You don't get mouthfuls of dirt and you don't kill the plant. Nature designed everything perfectly and it didn't design us to graze on grass. I don't see any kid with natural inclinations to stick their face toward the ground and start grazing. We're frugivores not herbivores. Raw foodism is a systemless system of success. Nothing complicated or fancy just don't eat cooked food. There is never too much fruit around the house, especially with active youngsters running about creating havoc. Moderation is the mating call of the cooked herd mentality. Raw Courage World knows no moderation. Only Cooked Coward World understands moderation because it's very survival depends upon it.

http://www.tierversuchsgegner.org/RC-Dini/Raw-Courage-World/chapter-12.html

The author is a racist (unt, but some of his stuff is interesting...

[sport]

To answer the original question, mango is the king, period!!!

I was discussing the mango with an oriental friend yesterday and she told me that the chineese consider it unhealthy.
She said " you know that scum that you sometimes get when you boil cabbage, well they think that it is full of that scum".
Do not ask me for an explanation as I do not have one I am just repeating.

[Brianna]

Most nutritious food of the land: sprouts
Most nutritious food of the sea: seaweeds
Most nutritious food of freshwater sources: algae

[druid]

Watermelon!

:p

[Narz]

You are kidding!:D

Chocolate isn't a food, you can only use a small daily amount of it.
Otherwise you will completely smash your health!
Smash my health? Not really. Anything we can eat and absorb is a food. My digestion is not dependent on your erroneous beleif systems (fortunatly).


[b][color=#006400]The cacao tree was spread northward from Amazonas by human beings
and animals who only ate the fruit pulp, but spitted out the cacao beans.
Where'd you get that information from? Source please.

[Narz]

having reached my ideal weight of 98 lbs at 6'3... I'm now contemplating breatharianism... I'll weigh up my options upon completion of my 52 day purification fast... I think I've transcended the desire for such mundane and worldy things as FOOD and SEX... I laugh at these SAD eaters with their plates of DEAD flesh and UNNATURAL sexual urges (any is probably too much). Even most raw foodists eat MUCH more than they actually need!!! ADDICTED to PLEASURE!!!

- Love, peace, light and ASCENSION!!!

- X-Minded
I really hope you're kidding. :eek:

If that's your real height, weight and goals you'll be dead soon and I think someone should seek help for you.

[Draginvry]

And have all other animals been conditioned to think that they need to eat and who started it all.
Tell me who it was and I will punish them for it.

God.

You'd better start punishing. I heard He could take quite a beating.

[sunflowery]

MY #1 most nutritious food ....

FOOD for the soul!

I'm agree, and add wheatgrass and alfalfa :D

[X-Minded]

I really hope you're kidding. :eek:

If that's your real height, weight and goals you'll be dead soon and I think someone should seek help for you.

Yeah mate, I was dead serious :rolleyes:

[Lay-Lay]

***anyways, ignoring x-minded and moving back to the topic of the thread*** just kidding! :D

I know many people agree and diagree, but I think wheatgrass is an awesome nutrious food.

[lissomllama]

I would have to say that dark leafy greens are the most nutritious food, along with coconuts.

[lissomllama]

All food is POISON... I eat 1 piece of fruit a day... my body is all the better for it, having reached my ideal weight of 98 lbs at 6'3... I'm now contemplating breatharianism... I'll weigh up my options upon completion of my 52 day purification fast... I think I've transcended the desire for such mundane and worldy things as FOOD and SEX... I laugh at these SAD eaters with their plates of DEAD flesh and UNNATURAL sexual urges (any is probably too much). Even most raw foodists eat MUCH more than they actually need!!! ADDICTED to PLEASURE!!!

- Love, peace, light and ASCENSION!!!

- X-Minded



I'd like to know what is unnatural about sex? Sex is one of THE most natural things. And so is pleasure. Our bodies are built with millions of nerve endings that make us sensitive to sensual touch and we have pleasure receptors in our brains. We have sensitive reproductive organs meant for great sex and no matter what you say or do, the human body becomes aroused when IT wants to.

As far as eating goes, also a very natural thing. We hae complex digestive tracts and much of our body's design relies on the nutrition from food. Without food, you eventually die. It is as simple as that. Transcendance is not about not eating or not having sex. It is about moving to a higher plane of what is natural existence, so really, great, pure sex and pure raw foods are the real transcendence. Breatharianism is just another way of depriving onesself and hindering a person's innate right to sexuality and food, two of the most basic and primal things we have. Transcendance and spirituality are awesome but without balance you cannot survive. No matter what you may think, you are a human, you are bound to this earth until you die and it is a good thing. You are not a celestial body or a gust of wind and maybe you might reincarnate as one but you are a flesh and blood creature of the precious Earth and if you deprive yourself of what you need you will only cause imbalance and frusration. Live on the Earth, she loves you.

Oh, and did you seriously come to a raw, vegan support board to tell us all how wrong we are? I doubt that anyone here will agree with you because this isn't the place for it. Maybe there are bretharian forums full of people who at least think the way you do on this. Though I doubt that would help anyone.

ETA: X-minded, I see that you were kidding. Man, you really had us going there! The internet isn't the best place for kidders because there is no inflection so we often can't tell. Anyway, I'll leave my statement up there just in case there are some confused breatharians who happen to wander on the boards.

[X-Minded]

I'd like to know what is unnatural about sex? Sex is one of THE most natural things. And so is pleasure. Our bodies are built with millions of nerve endings that make us sensitive to sensual touch and we have pleasure receptors in our brains. We have sensitive reproductive organs meant for great sex and no matter what you say or do, the human body becomes aroused when IT wants to.

As far as eating goes, also a very natural thing. We hae complex digestive tracts and much of our body's design relies on the nutrition from food. Without food, you eventually die. It is as simple as that. Transcendance is not about not eating or not having sex. It is about moving to a higher plane of what is natural existence, so really, great, pure sex and pure raw foods are the real transcendence. Breatharianism is just another way of depriving onesself and hindering a person's innate right to sexuality and food, two of the most basic and primal things we have. Transcendance and spirituality are awesome but without balance you cannot survive. No matter what you may think, you are a human, you are bound to this earth until you die and it is a good thing. You are not a celestial body or a gust of wind and maybe you might reincarnate as one but you are a flesh and blood creature of the precious Earth and if you deprive yourself of what you need you will only cause imbalance and frusration. Live on the Earth, she loves you.

Oh, and did you seriously come to a raw, vegan support board to tell us all how wrong we are? I doubt that anyone here will agree with you because this isn't the place for it. Maybe there are bretharian forums full of people who at least think the way you do on this. Though I doubt that would help anyone.

Jesus Christ, how many times do I have to say, I was taking the P!ss !!!

Chill out, go eat, have sex, knock yourself out, I do it all the time...

Edit - just read the text in red

Peace.

[lissomllama]

Yeah, I just edited that in there. Didn't catch that post the first skim through.

What do you expect when you make strong statements like that? People are going to make a whole bunch of knee jerk reactions, if you can't handle it, don't make jokes. We're not the ones freaking out here, BTW. The internet isn't good for being quickwitted. Go back and read my ETA part.

This is icky, peace to all of you.

ETA: Ahh, edit edit edit. That's ok, we all know where we stand now.

[X-Minded]

Food Is Good...

Sex Is Good...

Mmm... Pleasure...

[lissomllama]

Yay for pleasure!

[Lay-Lay]

I only can say one thing "Pot Stirrer" LOL ***rolling eyes***

[GreenPrince]

Smash my health? Not really. Anything we can eat and absorb is a food. My digestion is not dependent on your erroneous beleif systems (fortunatly). If you are not an alien... I'll bet my belief system is based on the same biochemistry as you digestion... :)

Historically, cacao has never been a food for natural tribes, only a
potion for medical or ritual/ASC-purposes, and later the cacao "beans"
as money/coins. ASC = Altered state of consciousnes.

If you study the chemistry of cacao and the substances the Aztects put
together with cacao in their ritual drink you will get a hint of an advanced insight.

Not even the chocolate bar, invented in Europe during the 17th(?)
Century, was used as a food. They only put small pieces in hot water
for a drink.

The western people today are alienated from the nature as we can see
in the massive abuse of tobacco, coffe, cacao and somewhere mate, maca
and other substances with alkaloids and adaptogens.
This abuse is not only a blockage for a possible higher, spiritual
development, whose existence they are not aware of - so you can say
it doesn't matter.

Well, what matters is that their cellmembrans build "forests" of
receptors on their surfaces. These receptors crave for the substance,
the blue print of their eixtence. The transmittor system of the brain is
disturbed. Results: tired, sleepy, irritated, unfocused, unhappy people.


Many people in the raw vegan movement are not into it primary for
their health, but for an overweight connected more or less to food
addiction. Many of them are catched in the raw chocolate trap with a
detoxlike strain on skin, hair, kidney, liver, intestines - villis and the
first outpost of the immune system: cell islands in the wall.

Chocolate is big business. If you go into it, you can make a lot of bucks.
But you can do something on a higher level. Give the raw vegan
movement knowledges and tools, books and kithen machines. There are
much more to do. Check out the factory prices in China and retail
prices in the US. You will be suprised.

But... don't listen to much to me, choice your own path. I can "see" that
you are a clever person, creative, open-minded and flexible. You know
how to build up a neat-work of able-bodied persons. Find the right
companion/companions. :)



Where'd you get that information from? Source please.
Wikipedia, not the best source, but the level is raising for each
month. I did a translation:
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakao (http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakao)