No Way! Must be out of their minds!

[Rawzula]

Here's the scoop. Tell me what's wrong with this:

Pediatricians Say Dairy OK for Lactose-Intolerant Kids

By Ed Edelson
HealthDay Reporter Tue Sep 5, 7:02 PM ET


TUESDAY, Sept. 5 (HealthDay News) -- The American Academy of Pediatrics has a new attitude about consumption of milk and milk products by children with lactose intolerance: Hey, give it a try.

New guidelines say the academy "supports use of dairy foods as an important source of calcium for bone mineral health and of other nutrients that facilitate growth in children and adolescents." Specifically, it does not recommend eliminating dairy products to treat lactose intolerance.

In practical terms, said Dr. Melvin B. Heyman, a member of the committee that wrote the guidelines, the new advice is for parents of children with lactose intolerance, in collaboration with pediatricians, to "test the system and see how much milk, cheese and ice cream they can tolerate."

One reason for the new advice, said Heyman, who is a professor of pediatrics at the University of California, San Francisco, is that "we have more information about what people will tolerate. We know that children who have lactose intolerance have a tendency to tolerate some dairy products."

At least an equally important factor is the need for the calcium in dairy products, he said. "Young people have to get as much calcium as they can to lower the risk of problems with bones as they get older," Heyman said.

The new guidelines were published in the September issue of the academy's journal, Pediatrics.

An estimated 30 million to 50 million Americans have some degree of intolerance to lactose, the main sugar found in milk and other dairy products. They have a shortage of the enzyme lactase, which breaks down the sugar, and can experience unpleasant symptoms, including nausea, cramps, bloating, gas and diarrhea if they ingest too much lactose.

The condition is relatively rare in whites, but as many as 75 percent of blacks, 90 percent of Asian-Americans and nearly 100 percent of Native Americans suffer from it. Symptoms generally start appearing after the age of 2.

When symptoms do appear, the first step should be to make sure that they are not caused by another condition, such as irritable bowel syndrome, celiac disease, an infection or parasites, Heyman said.

If lactose intolerance is the problem, it's important to remember that the condition does not do bodily damage, however unpleasant the symptoms might be, he said. Careful testing can help determine which products affect an individual and which are a lesser problem. "Some people might tolerate yogurt but have problems with milk," Heyman said.

The important point is that young people get an adequate amount of calcium, he said. The guidelines note that the National Medical Association, an organization of black physicians, "recently recommended that black people consume three to four servings a day of low-fat milk, cheese and/or yogurt."

"If lactose-free diets are used for treatment of lactose intolerance, the diets should include a good source of calcium and/or calcium supplementation to meet daily recommended intake levels," the guidelines state.

More information

Visit the U.S. National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases for more on lactose intolerance.
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Milk is NOT good for lactose intolerant kids. Anything with MILK in it is NAAASTTY. See the look on my avatar's face...that's how I felt when I read that story. :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[spicyfull]

They, more than likely, will have something different to say Tomorrow. Something is good today and bad tomorrow. You must remember too that they are talking with a different mind set. They do not have as much RAW knowledge as you, even though they might have a PHD Degree..........

[juliebove]

This is nothing new. I'm 47. I remember hating milk and fighting my parents over having to drink it. I also hated ice cream, whipped cream, cream cheese and other dairy things. Oddly, cheeses like parmesan and cheddar did appeal to me. I had an upset stomach and gas all my growing years. I remember getting upset when I'd see people smiling and I'd think... How can they be smiling when they're in so much pain? I just assumed everyone hurt like I did!

Then my face began to break out. Nothing seemed to help. My mom took me from Dr. to Dr. and finally one of them told my mom that I might be lactose intolerant. Told her to stop giving me milk. She did. My face cleared up. I still had some stomach pain but not like I'd had. Foolishly, we belived that milk cooked in something was fine and cheese was fine.

Fast forward to last winter where I was finally diagnosed with allergies to dairy, eggs and almonds. Well, duh! I hadn't been lactose intolerant after all. It was an actual allergy. Just like the allergy I had to milk when I was a baby. Guess I'd never outgrown it. I detoxed for about two weeks then I couldn't believe how much better I looked and felt. All the stomach bloating was gone. I lost weight seemingly overnight.

My daughter is also allergic to dairy among other things. Now cheese no longer appeals to us. We gag when we see it.

[Rawzula]

I ate some ice cream and cake last year at my son's birthday. I got really ill and felt like I had a fever. Not too long after that, I put a tablespoon of milk in my cofee and again felt ill. I stopped drinking milk after realizing I didn't like feeling sick to my stomach when I drank it. I seldom drink soymilk, and if I do, it's Eden Soy and NOT Silk....I think it's worse than milk:eek: Gives me the same queasy feeling as cow puke(milk):eek:

[SedonaSun]

"see how much ice cream they can tolerate"?????

ARRRGGGHHHHH!!!

[dreamrawalwz]

ARG!!! that's all I have to say. I wonder how much the Dairy Industry is behind this...or their scientific data??

[Sharon in Colorado]

"see how much ice cream they can tolerate"?????

ARRRGGGHHHHH!!!

I am surprised they didn't suggest taking a lactaid pill before hand (or did they, I didn't read the whole thing).

[SedonaSun]

Sheesh, is this next???.....


TUESDAY, Sept. 5 (HealthDay News) -- The American Academy of Pediatrics has a new attitude about consumption of peanuts and peanut products by children with peanut allergies: Hey, give it a try.

[Sharon in Colorado]

Thursday, September 7, 2006 The Nitwit News - Research shows that giving your kid as much junk food as they desire will help them to make wiser food choices in their future. So do not limit the amount of candy bars, sugar cereal and full fat ice cream in your kid's diets.

[SedonaSun]

You know, this kind of crap really makes me want to start something to educate parents and to make them open their eyes and think for themselves instead of letting money-hungry corporations and government think for them. Feels like a one-handed, blind David fighting an army of Goliaths, but as David said, "Is there not a cause?"

[cassidy]

Sharon -
You can change nitwit news to Dateline (20/20... one of those). A few years ago they had a segment on two different study groups. One group of children were of parents who allowed them to have candy and other junkfood... basically the typical SAD. The other group were children whose parents did not allow them candy EVER. They put these kids together in a room filled with bowls of candy to see what they would do. The kids that were allowed the candy didn't bother so much. The other group, the kids who were never allowed candy, went straight to the candy like a trough.
OK - so this is interesting...
See! It is OK to give your kids fried pig lard and chemicals after all. Dateline said so.

[dreamrawalwz]

Sharon -
You can change nitwit news to Dateline (20/20... one of those). A few years ago they had a segment on two different study groups. One group of children were of parents who allowed them to have candy and other junkfood... basically the typical SAD. The other group were children whose parents did not allow them candy EVER. They put these kids together in a room filled with bowls of candy to see what they would do. The kids that were allowed the candy didn't bother so much. The other group, the kids who were never allowed candy, went straight to the candy like a trough.
OK - so this is interesting...
See! It is OK to give your kids fried pig lard and chemicals after all. Dateline said so.

sorry to go off topic, but this conversation came up today briefly. Somehow it was about special needs children and autism. I said "i think it's interesting how diet can affect it sometimes." and she blatently said "no it doesn't! there's a boy i work with that isn't allowed gluten. He's practically starving! It's sad because he laways steals the other kids' food. Another boy i work with went to a homopathic place and got drugs. He seems worse now then before!" Now, this girl is about 19. I didn't want to get in an argument, so I didn't say anything else, but...ahh! Also, drugs and homeopathic medicine don't seem to go together...haha. Here's a heading:

" Research shows that the chemicals in foods don't cause cancer. Feed your children all the preservatives, dyes, and additives you wish!"

[juliebove]

My daughter and I were having a conversation about food allergies. She brings her lunch because she is allergic to most everything they serve in the school lunches. What she can't understand is that the girl who sits next to her has almost all of her same food allergies plus a few more. But this girl buys her lunch. She can't understand it and neither can I. The girl's mom said she just lets her eat whatever and then gives her an herbal supplement to take away the symptoms if it gets too bad. She suggested that I do the same. I was like... Say what? I have nothing against herbs, supplements or even meds when you need them. But why eat something you know you shouldn't, get sick, then take something to feel better. Seems like the better choice is not to eat the stuff to begin with!

[Sharon in Colorado]

Sharon -
You can change nitwit news to Dateline (20/20... one of those). A few years ago they had a segment on two different study groups. One group of children were of parents who allowed them to have candy and other junkfood... basically the typical SAD. The other group were children whose parents did not allow them candy EVER. They put these kids together in a room filled with bowls of candy to see what they would do. The kids that were allowed the candy didn't bother so much. The other group, the kids who were never allowed candy, went straight to the candy like a trough.
OK - so this is interesting...
See! It is OK to give your kids fried pig lard and chemicals after all. Dateline said so.

It is a little interesting, that my kids, although I have not restricted them completely from junk, will do the same. They get around it and it's like "PAR-TAY!".

Every so often I will get them some of the more naturally made, "health" junk food, which I feel is a better choice, if they are going to eat it anyway.

So they are not completely off it by any means. Yet they still act like they have been deprived from it when they are around other folks homes, with the processed junk (Hamburger Helper at an in-law's home, junky desserts at another's home for instance).

[luckitri]

I was just like juliebove as a kid regarding not wanting the milk. My parents battled with me to drink it but they wouldn't let me put chocolate in it and the taste of milk just disgusted me....so it was a battle. However I inhaled sharp cheddar cheese. My parents tried to raise us vegetarian and I have rebelled against it as I was never very healthy and none of us kids teeth came in right. Our parents have beautiful fully formed teeth growing up on SAD and we don't. My teeth are an embarassment to me. My little sister even had a deformed tooth. I have had on again off again lactose intolerance but now I don't have to worry about it! Enjoyed your humor above!

[Tangerina]

hmm.... that milk thing is pretty appalling... especially since all humans are at least slightly allergic to cows milk.... if they are going to push milk, goats milk is much more digestable, but there isn't a bazillion dollar goat industry...

as for the other issue....
I had a friend growing up who wasn't allowed to watch television at home, ever, and as a result she would go to friends houses and the only thing she would want to do was watch tv... and she did not even care at all what the program was, she just wanted to be watching tv... I think often putting concrete restrictions for kids can have the opposite of the desired effect (look at our society's attitudes about teen sex vs. what really goes on vs. how teens who are educated without shame conduct themselves) I think a lot of education and then freedom to make some mistakes is a hard thing to do with your kids, but ultimately they grow up into individuals who are confident with themselves and their lifestyle choices because they are their own. I don't think parents should just buy their kids gooey icky treats any time they want them, but making candy completely off limits takes away all opportunities for kids to learn about food on thier own (ie if they eat all their halloween candy they will be sick) and the learning people really do for themselves is what sticks.... setting a good example and providing many opportunities for kids to really enjoy healthy food and not showing them any anger or disappointment when they do their own thing but rather using it as a learning experience seems the best way to me.

[Sharon in Colorado]

I was just like juliebove as a kid regarding not wanting the milk. My parents battled with me to drink it but they wouldn't let me put chocolate in it and the taste of milk just disgusted me....so it was a battle. However I inhaled sharp cheddar cheese. My parents tried to raise us vegetarian and I have rebelled against it as I was never very healthy and none of us kids teeth came in right. Our parents have beautiful fully formed teeth growing up on SAD and we don't. My teeth are an embarassment to me. My little sister even had a deformed tooth. I have had on again off again lactose intolerance but now I don't have to worry about it! Enjoyed your humor above!

This is how my mother got me to drink the milk. She put chocolate chips (they called 'em bits back then) in the glass so I had to drink it to get to the bits. I wasn't smart enough to think of using a spoon, but later on in life I had my milk and bits that way, it was so good.

Need to figure out a raw version of that.

Hmmm...on second thought...this could have been the exact thing that catapulted my milk chocolate addiction. :rolleyes:

[dreamrawalwz]

I never liked milk either. I started resisting when I was about 4 (got spoiled milk and was terrified since that to try it plain). She got sugar free Quick to put in it to make it taste chocolately. Let's just say "do you want milk with your powdered chocolate?" haha. My parents knew I was lactose intolerance since I was born, yet they thought it was a necessary for strong bones and calcium. I tried one plain sip of milk years later and it was SO gross! Yuck. Turns out I also have an allergy to milk. I don't even want to know what would happen if I had a sip ::shudders::

[Rawzula]

I won't even touch milk. Everytime I think about milk, I want to hurl:eek:. And powdered non-fat milk is even worse. Tastes like sawdust, cardboard and chalk:eek:! My mom likes it, but I don't.

[Spectatrix]

I actually loved milk growing up... until my mother decided, for a few years, that she was going to buy powdered milk (that stuff is ridiculously nasty) rather than the real stuff. When I got into college, I started buying milk for myself and was going through about 3 gallons a week... it wasn't until about a year ago that dairy was part of the reason I had congestion in my lungs all the time.

Regarding having strict rules on what your kids can do/eat/whatever, I agree with Tangerina. I credit my parents' attitude towards alcohol as the reason why I've never been interested in college "come hang out and get smashed" parties. Growing up, they let me have tastes of alcohol whenever they had some (which was infrequent) and so I never equated drinking alcohol with a rite of passage, like so many high school and college students do. Have rules, be firm with them, but *explain* the reason for the rules to your kiddos and allow occasional exceptions (depending on what the rule is, of course).

[portiz]

Regarding having strict rules on what your kids can do/eat/whatever, I agree with Tangerina. I credit my parents' attitude towards alcohol as the reason why I've never been interested in college "come hang out and get smashed" parties. Growing up, they let me have tastes of alcohol whenever they had some (which was infrequent) and so I never equated drinking alcohol with a rite of passage, like so many high school and college students do. Have rules, be firm with them, but *explain* the reason for the rules to your kiddos and allow occasional exceptions (depending on what the rule is, of course).

I was the same way growing up. My Dad always let me have a sip of whatever he had at the moment. My favorite was peppermint schnapps. I had my drunk moments in college but they weren't the norm (every day of the week for some it seemed). I can count how many times on one hand during those years.

[cassidy]

hmmm... I felt the need to chime back in. I plan on raising my daughter with junk food in her life... at the appropriate times. Halloween, birthdays, Grandma's house etc. I think Dateline (or whatever it was) was exploring the extremes. I don't plan on being extreme in rasing my daughter. I want to give her all the knowledge she will need to make her own informed decisions. I don't plan on forcing anything on her (milk) or letting her have anything and everything she wants.
My parents raised me on the typical SAD diet - a little junk here, healthy there... right in the middle was where we were at. And I ended up with an eating disorder.
On the alcohol issue - my parents always let me have sips of whatever they were having as well. However, with me, it didn't work. All I ever wanted to do with my friends was drink.
But every kid is going to be different and you just have to be the right parent for that kid.
I think it also has to do on how you are as a family. I want to raise my daughter in a healthy happy loving home. Spend lots of time outdoors, sports, friends and enjoying life. Eat healthy to facilitate our active lifestyle.
OK - I am deffinantly rambling now. This isn't even what the original post was about! Sorry Kilik!!!!

[dreamrawalwz]

hmmm... I felt the need to chime back in. I plan on raising my daughter with junk food in her life... at the appropriate times. Halloween, birthdays, Grandma's house etc. I think Dateline (or whatever it was) was exploring the extremes. I don't plan on being extreme in rasing my daughter. I want to give her all the knowledge she will need to make her own informed decisions. I don't plan on forcing anything on her (milk) or letting her have anything and everything she wants.
My parents raised me on the typical SAD diet - a little junk here, healthy there... right in the middle was where we were at. And I ended up with an eating disorder.
On the alcohol issue - my parents always let me have sips of whatever they were having as well. However, with me, it didn't work. All I ever wanted to do with my friends was drink.
But every kid is going to be different and you just have to be the right parent for that kid.
I think it also has to do on how you are as a family. I want to raise my daughter in a healthy happy loving home. Spend lots of time outdoors, sports, friends and enjoying life. Eat healthy to facilitate our active lifestyle.
OK - I am deffinantly rambling now. This isn't even what the original post was about! Sorry Kilik!!!!

I think I will raise my children raw. It is when they do eat cooked of their choice that they'll see the affects and not want it again (that's my hope anyway haha, unless my chldren are always raw). I'd like to hear from those that do have raw children 8+ years old to see what their thoughts are. I think it was Revvell that has a teen age daughter that's raw? I wonder if her daughter wants to rebel or whatever.

Alcohol. I've only had a few drinks here and there, but I know I won't drink, ever again. I'm 19, I guess I'll miss all the parties hwen I transfer to a university...darn! :p

[Goldsplinter]

At least an equally important factor is the need for the calcium in dairy products, he said. "Young people have to get as much calcium as they can to lower the risk of problems with bones as they get older," Heyman said.
Those dairy companies sure know how to make money. :) I give them props for that.

[Lay-Lay]

yuck...grosses me out when I see milk being drunk.

[Conscious Midwife]

COWS MILK :eek: :confused: :mad:

Is for er huh ummmmmmmmm....


COWS

How utterly (pun intended) stupid of them!!!

I prefer to get my calcium from COLLARD GREENS AND BROCCOLI, plus hang out in the sun forthat proper VIT D synthesis factor!!!

Moooving right a along :p

[Lay-Lay]

Got Puss! :(