Ph (alkalizing water) Anyone makes this?

[LightLover]

Ph (alkalizing water) Anyone makes this? :confused:


Has anyone experience with making his own alkalizing water, for example by adding baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) to (distilled water), also other addings are possible (described in : the ph miracle, by Robert Young)

- What is your favorite stuff to add to the water?

- What is your health experience?
- Are there things to avoid?

Lightlover :p

[Lay-Lay]

the only thing I add to my water sometimes is lemons. I feel like I really detox when I do this.

[juliebove]

I do the lemons too. I usually get a big bottle of water then cut up a lemon in small pieces and push it into the bottle. I do of course drink some of the water first so it's not a full bottle. I'll drink two or three of these for a few days when I'm not feeling well. Sometimes I'll add lime to the water as well. Makes me feel a lot lighter and more energetic.

*Note to self* Pick up more lemons at the store today!

[LightLover]

Yes, I use these, see also the thread "alkaline foods, does it work?", where Alex says that baking soda is not tasting that fine. I never tried but can imagine :p

(Also grapefruit juice is fine and will work)

Lightlover

[Graciebeliever]

Trinity water is high on the alkaline spectrum.

I have been using this water for many years and I am very happy with thier product :)

http://www.trinitysprings.com/default.asp

The yellow label is 9.6 and it is sold as a natural mineral supplement.

The Blue label is partly distilled to lower the mineral content and then they can sell it as bottled water.

:)

[LightLover]

Great ! :p

"I have been using this water for many years and I am very happy with thier product "

- Which one have you been using for many years the blue or the yellow label?
- What about the high fluoridecontenct in the yellow label?

lightlover.

[Graciebeliever]

I use both. The blue label is newer and my health food store has just started carrying the blue.

I will drink 1/4 liter a day of yellow label but I don't use it every day.

The blue label was designed for higher intake so I will drink a liter or so every other day.

This is not my regular water intake I typically drink distilled but this is what I use to help my body stay lower on acid.

[alex]

Ultimately, it is the food you eat that is more important than alkaline water. As long as the water is neutral pH and pure (distilled, reverse osmosis) that is excellent and eating 80% alkaline and 20% acid forming foods is crucial - at least in the beginning. Once your body is consistantly on the alkaline side there is more leaway.

I use the lemon or lime water as well, and that works very well and is alkaline forming in the body.


alex

[LightLover]

Alex, have you also read the book ""alkalize or die""?

And is it good?
I just ordered it secondhand.

lightlover

[rawlapalooza]

I've never made alkalizing water but I drink Fiji whenever I can as it's ph is 7.5

[alex]

Lightlover: I have not read that one (Alkalize or Die). Our library system does not have a copy. Please let me know what it is like after you read it.

I read at least one, often two or three books a week and I just can not afford to buy them all. Fortunately our library system here is excellent and carries most of the books I want to read.

Unfortunately, Alissa's book is not one of these so I have not yet read hers. I'll get around to it one day, but right now I have over 50 books on hold, so these will be first.


alex

[LightLover]

Hi Alex,

- the bookshop said to me it could take a month for the book to arrive(I don't know why and didn't ask).

- Is there any information about "ph" that you like to share which is not in the books of Dr. Young? I would be delighted to read your text, I share the same fascination with you for these processes and do think it is the most important.

- Always appreciate your dens threads, if you have new views I am glad to read

- Nice detail: I couldn't buy a new example anymore of this book. I could look in the system of the bookshop and there were 2 or 3 old ones, all with judgements about the state they were in. The one with the best state was about 40 or 50 USD. I bought the cheepest one, the contents is wat matters.


Lightlover

[greeninloanageles1]

I tested with strips my tap water- 7.something and reverse osmosis water(that type you refill in the your bottles at the market)-5.0! A little shocking!
That does not for sure means that when you drink it, it leaves the same reaction inside, does it?

[luckitri]

Don't know about the water and yes your results are shocking. After reading this post I went and bought some lemons and will start putting them in my water again. Years ago a holistic healer told me never to drink stripped water - you know like distilled - he said that nutrients that you need attach to the stripped linkages in the water (think chemistry class here) and leave your body leading to heart attack. Well I have been drinking the stripped water - (various types - various processes) all these years because I can't handle the taste of the chemicals. I used to buy those liquid mineral supplements at the health food store and put a few drops in the water but I got a very strange real sick with orange urine and much pain and the doctors had no clue what it was. I think it was the liquid minerals so I quit it but now (I hate to claim this) but now the heart is in trouble. If anyone knows any research on this please advise.

[alex]

When I frist got those pH strips, I also wanted to test the water I was drinking and was shocked when I tried it. I phoned the company that makes the strips and asked them about it. They told me that the pH strips CAN NOT be used to test water - that they are specifically designed only for urine and saliva.

I don't really have more information on acid/alkaline balance. Most sources are confusing and contradictory especially when it comes to fruits - most sources seem to indicate that fruits are alkaline forming, but I believe Dr Young is correct and that they are acid forming with the exception of limes, lemons and grapefruits.

There are three things that I do not like about Dr Youngs alkalarian diet:

1) not 100% raw

2) the many supplements - I do agree that taking some supplements is essential primarily due to the lack of minerals in the produce these days due to the demineralization of the soil, acid rain, early harvesting due to shipping time etc. Taking all of Dr Youngs suggested supplements would not only be expensive, but would take up a good part of your day.

3) the amount of water he recommends consuming - by his formula I should be drinking about six liters a day and if I did that I might just have to spend my day in the washroom. I think the more raw you eat that the less water you need as the food contains the best water of all. I also dont feel like it's natural, we did not evolve drinking massive amounts of water - if anything, the hunter gatherers probably had a hard time finding water at times. So, yes, I think water is very important, but I feel Dr Young takes it a little to the extreme.


alex

[LightLover]

When I frist got those pH strips, I also wanted to test the water I was drinking and was shocked when I tried it. I phoned the company that makes the strips and asked them about it. They told me that the pH strips CAN NOT be used to test water - that they are specifically designed only for urine and saliva.

I don't really have more information on acid/alkaline balance. Most sources are confusing and contradictory especially when it comes to fruits - most sources seem to indicate that fruits are alkaline forming, but I believe Dr Young is correct and that they are acid forming with the exception of limes, lemons and grapefruits.

There are three things that I do not like about Dr Youngs alkalarian diet:

1) not 100% raw

2) the many supplements - I do agree that taking some supplements is essential primarily due to the lack of minerals in the produce these days due to the demineralization of the soil, acid rain, early harvesting due to shipping time etc. Taking all of Dr Youngs suggested supplements would not only be expensive, but would take up a good part of your day.

3) the amount of water he recommends consuming - by his formula I should be drinking about six liters a day and if I did that I might just have to spend my day in the washroom. I think the more raw you eat that the less water you need as the food contains the best water of all. I also dont feel like it's natural, we did not evolve drinking massive amounts of water - if anything, the hunter gatherers probably had a hard time finding water at times. So, yes, I think water is very important, but I feel Dr Young takes it a little to the extreme.


alex

* Dr young's book is not very complete (and the index is also very short)
What do you think of agave nectar (not in the book)
- Is it acid in the body, because there is a high sugarcontent?

* there are contradictions: on one page sunflower oil is among the best oils,
but in another PH-tabel/diagram it is among the worst acid stuffs;

AT 2): it's a bit like David Wolfe: the basis is terrific, but they would sell
there mother in law to you if you like to pay, wat to commercial, see the website: no emailadress for questions & no answers = no communication

at3) your body can't process more than a certain amount water in a certain time. Only a fish can swallow his targets.

LL

[alex]

I've never tried agave - if I have to sweeten, I used stevia, which I believe is illegal in the U.S. as a sweetener, but legal as a food supplement (if memory serves).

Sunflower oil - I don't know about being acid or alkaline forming, but I think it has too much omega6 and not enough omega3 to be a desireable oil to consume.

Dr Young fills in information in his other books:

The pH miracle for Diabetes and
The pH miracle for Weight Loss

But I know what you mean. I believe there is still work to do in this area and there is a lot that is not known yet or been confirmed by others. I don't think Dr Young, or the theory of acid/alkaline balance is that well known yet - aren't very many books that even mention it.

I do know that Dr Young was interviewed by Tony Robbins - if Tony promoted it, then that would be a pretty big boost.


alex

[LightLover]

- Same with Stevia in the netherlands, not for sale as a food, but only for sale as a kind of medicine! But it is not tasting well for my sweet mouth...

- Dr. Young is very much promoting omega-6, so does Udus I think, but other people do not advise this, strange all this opposite points, isn't it?

lightlover

[Tirza]

I use fresh lemon juice every day in various recipes, one of my smoothies, for one. Would you think it is really necessary to add it to water as well in that case? I like lemon water, but how much lemon and in what form do I really need it? If you are just dropping pieces into the water, you aren't really getting all the juice from it are you? When I use lemon juice I ream all the juice and pulp out from the shell.

I also make this incredible Lemon Relish:

1 c. skinless almonds (or not skinless)
Grind these a bit in the food processor
1 lemon, sliced thinly with skin on.
Pick out the seeds, then chop the slices into chunks
1/2 c. green olives
Grind all down to a relish consistency
Enjoy as a relish. Will keep several days in the fridge.
I think I remember using a little olive oil in this as well. But not usually. I don't really see the need.

That's all!

[alex]

I am pretty sure that they both promote omega3s, but healthy fats in general. Both say that the SAD diet is way to high in omega6.

http://www.udoerasmus.com/firstscreen.htm


alex

[greeninloanageles1]

Well, I know they say, that their strips are not good to test water, but it works for me. Today I measured reverse osmosis water with lemon in it and it is even more acidic than without it - 4.5. But after drinking it my saliva rose from 6.00 to 7.2. I did not eat or drink anything else before measuring. So Water PH does not mean that it will be the same in your body after it reacts with digestive juices. Tommorow I will try to drink pure reverse osmosis water and see how my saliva ph will change.

[alex]

Saliva pH should increase throughout the day as a result of the food we eat.

That is why first thing in the morning is best to get a more accurate pic. But you can measure at other time if measured consistently apparently.

I also ream my lemons or limes: juice and pulp of 1/2 lemon or lime to 1 liter of distilled water.

I do this because there are quite a few people that believe that distilled water leaches minerals from the body. Personally I am not sure that I believe this - I think the body is much smarter than that and hangs on to what it needs. But, just in case I am wrong...

I also do it for the alkalizing effect


alex

[RawNut]

Ph (alkalizing water) Anyone makes this? :confused:


Has anyone experience with making his own alkalizing water, for example by adding baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) to (distilled water), also other addings are possible (described in : the ph miracle, by Robert Young)

- What is your favorite stuff to add to the water?

Lightlover :p

Actually, I did this before going raw or hearing anything about Ph. I used to use Alka-Seltzer for indigestion but the plain kind without acetaminaphen was harder and harder to find. I looked at the ingredients and lo and behold - it was citric acid and sodium bicarbonate. So, I started using baking soda and lemon juice in a glass of water. It worked and tasted better.

Today I make lemon water and add just a little baking soda to take the edge off the sourness. Sometimes, when I'm working hard on a hot day, I'll make lemon water with some sea salt. It quenches my thirst better than Gatoraid or plain water.

Craig

[luckitri]

Yes, when I was a kid I thought baking soda water was for upset stomach.

[greeninloanageles1]

Alex, I understand that saliva responds to foods we eat or even smell, that's why I do my little experiments in the morning before i ate or even looked at food.
Well, today my saliva was 6.00 in the morning(as always) and after drinking reverse osmosis water(no lemon this time) was still 6.00. So lemon does work! Even though it makes water even more acidic, but in the body it turns alkaline. So now I wonder if that alkaline water turns your saliva more alkaline or not. Can anyone using it test your saliva in the morning the way I did with reverse osmosis.
I did not test distilled water, but I doubt if it causes diseases, because Paul Bragg drank it from age sixteen or so, and he lost his life in his middle nineties while surfing... His bloodvessels were as 18 yearl old's. Not today's 18 year old, because now even kids are all toxic. He was like 70 percent raw,but he was fasting very often.

[LightLover]

Actually, I did this before going raw or hearing anything about Ph. I used to use Alka-Seltzer for indigestion but the plain kind without acetaminaphen was harder and harder to find. I looked at the ingredients and lo and behold - it was citric acid and sodium bicarbonate. So, I started using baking soda and lemon juice in a glass of water. It worked and tasted better.

Today I make lemon water and add just a little baking soda to take the edge off the sourness. Sometimes, when I'm working hard on a hot day, I'll make lemon water with some sea salt. It quenches my thirst better than Gatoraid or plain water.

Craig

Craig,

* in which kind of shop do you buy your baking soda? Is it the same stuff you can use for cleaning etc...?

* Is it tasting ok with water&lemon/lime,
* and did you ever test your saliva after drinking
this combination baking soda &lemon/lime?

LL
LL

[LightLover]

[QUOTE=greeninloanageles1] Can anyone using it test your saliva in the morning the way I did with reverse osmosis.

Green, do you mean with "it" : lemon & baking soda, as you tested yourselve
lemon & water?

LL

[rawpriestess]

fresh mint and a bit of agave' nectar

[Scoobiedoo]

No. My wife is an InnerLight distributor and we just add the InnerLight pH Drops to our water. Fast, easy, no mess. Packs well to for work and travel.

[alex]

To the best of my knowledge, Innerlight is a multilevel marketing company that sells all of the supplements recommended by Dr Young.

Personally I would never get involved with another MML company.

I am disappointed that Dr Young's products are distributed in this way because for most people it turns out to be all about the money rather than the health or for helping others.

The best way to alkalize the body is with green vegetables and green juices.

Ideally, nature has provided all the necessary nutrients for us to maintain near optimum health without the use of any supplements.

I do believe that it is essential however to take a few supplements because we humans have altered the balance of nature, demineralized the soil, caused acid rain to fall etc.

A good multivitamin/multimineral along with some trace elements, I believe is a necessity these days to counteract the environmental damage.

By adding baking soda to water that contains lemon or lime juice, all one is doing is neutralizing the the water. You might as well just drink the water by itself. An acid added to a base will produce a neutral substance (if added in correct proportions)


alex

[LightLover]

By adding baking soda to water that contains lemon or lime juice, all one is doing is neutralizing the the water. You might as well just drink the water by itself. An acid added to a base will produce a neutral substance (if added in correct proportions)


alex


:eek: Sounds logic, better keep it simple without the soda!

By the way: has there ever been a discussion between Dr Young (or his followers) and Dr. Graham, about the arguments of 80/10/10?
Because they are thinking in opposite ways
Like to know

LL

[Scoobiedoo]

- Same with Stevia in the netherlands, not for sale as a food, but only for sale as a kind of medicine! But it is not tasting well for my sweet mouth...

- Dr. Young is very much promoting omega-6, so does Udus I think, but other people do not advise this, strange all this opposite points, isn't it?

lightlover

My wife and I have met Dr. Young at his seminar's and read all his works. he is an extremely brillant Microbiologist - and yes, Tony Robbin's is good friends with Dr. Young. We also crew for Tony Robbins' functions as well and each year our community sponsor's a BASKET BRIGADE event as well.

[Scoobiedoo]

- Same with Stevia in the netherlands, not for sale as a food, but only for sale as a kind of medicine! But it is not tasting well for my sweet mouth...

- Dr. Young is very much promoting omega-6, so does Udus I think, but other people do not advise this, strange all this opposite points, isn't it?

lightlover

My wife and I have met Dr. Young at his seminar's and read all his works. he is an extremely brillant Microbiologist - and yes, Tony Robbin's is good friends with Dr. Young. We also crew for Tony Robbins' functions as well and each year our community sponsor's a BASKET BRIGADE event as well.

[alex]

Now that I would like to see (and hear!!!!!)

Dr Young in a debate with Dr Graham


alex

[LightLover]

"Now that I would like to see (and hear!!!!!)

Dr Young in a debate with Dr Graham"


alex


:D :D :D

Maybe scoobiedoo could arrange this discussion, than we don't have to talk about this anymore!

Let the sources talk....

It will be something like the discussion between Andrew Wiles and Gabriel cousins on newstarget.com

Maybe something for newstarget.com, anyone connections there?

LL

[Scoobiedoo]

I'm not familiar with who Dr Graham is, etc.

[LightLover]

- Dr Graham is supporting the 80/10/10 diet (80% of your calories should be carbohydrates, maximium 10% should be fats, and maximum 10% should be proteines) A high % of the carbohydrates come from fruit

- Dr Young ( book: ph miracle) is just the opposite: he advises
1) much vegetables (of which much greens);
2) a good % high quality fats
3) low-sugar fruits and not much/avoiding high sugar fruits

It would be interesting if these two would debate with eachother

LL