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dreamrawalwz
08-20-2006, 03:32 PM
Hey everyone.

I havn't received word back from Bristol, but as of now her mother will not allow her on the computer anymore. She's lost some weight and her doctor is sending her to Renfew inpatient program. I have her address and if anyone would like me to tell her something please let me know. I don't want to put her address up here for her privacy, but I'll ask her if I can give it out to a select few if she'd like to maintain contact with any of you.

I'm sure she'll be put on a waiting list and who knows how long that will take. Hopefully she can change her parents, therapist, and doctor's minds. Please keep her in your thoughts.

luckitri
08-20-2006, 03:57 PM
Yes, there is much that I wanted to say to her but didn't due to her age and her fragile position. That state probably has some pretty progressive laws that can take things out of her and her parents control and I was fearful that this would happen. I did not want to worry her as I doubt that there is little that she could have done to change things. Please send her my best wishes and to hang in there because there will be an end to what they are trying to do. Please tell her not to antagonize them by doing anything that can be perceived as self-destructive (other than eating healthy). Weight gain from Rx can hardly be considered healthy weight....what can they be thinking? I know that she is a very intelligent girl and what they are doing is shocking and terrifying and even if she is held incommunicado that she has friends that are thinking good thoughts and sending prayers her way.

Rmiller
08-20-2006, 03:58 PM
Hi,

I just posted a message to Luner*Fey this morning just going into a LOT of different tips and suggestions that have helped me in my terrible fight with anorexia. Many of my forced hospitalizations were the worst experiences of my life so I know that I would have appreciated the extra support!!!!

Also, please give me her contact info so that I can call/mail etc her!!! You can e-mail me at lisamadam@gmail.com

I know that I couldn't sleep for a reason last night. I was worried all night that something like this was going to happen to her any day now.

Thanks so much for helping me keep in contact,

Lisa

P.S. Please let her know that she is in my prayers.

Coriander74
08-20-2006, 05:22 PM
Please send my regards. I fought eating disorders as well, and it was extremely difficult at my age (late 20's, early 30's). I can't imagine how it is for her, at her age.

Lots of love to LunarFey... may she find what she needs spiritually, emotionally and physically. I look forward to her return, and I hope that she knows how much she's cared for here on this forum.

Thank you Dream, for passing this on to us. Hugs.

startootsie
08-20-2006, 05:32 PM
That is sad...I hope she is okay!

JennaBoBenna
08-20-2006, 05:41 PM
poor girl! :( Please let her know I'm thinking of her!

GreenPrince
08-20-2006, 11:27 PM
Many of you have an experience of your own eating disorders. You know the hard struggle, the loosed years. You know there is a worm's eye view, a”frog’s perspective” in the current Medicine with a focus on weight and eating, and somehow you sense or know that this isn't the real core of the problem.

Of course a weight belowe a critical level may lead to loss of menstruation and endocrine disturbances with secondary effects, a spiral of interconnected mechanisms, delaying the recovery of the health and growing.
And that's one reason for the profession to focus there. Plus the stress from the surrounding, co-workers and the patient's well-meaning relatives. Many people know that an extreme weight reduction below the ”normal” weight often is an outer sign of a serious disease.

In the western world a MD has about 1-2 weeks education in nutrition, a veterinary often a couple of months. Best educated are nutritionists and the best of them are those with their own private interest in nutrition, not only as a 9-5 job.

The scientific knowledge of nutrition is deep, but narrowed and very fragmentary, based on analysis of a few substances. A biological cell from, for example, a green leave may carry thousands of chemical substances in an intricate balance. The superior knowledge of practical nutrition many people have with a personal experience of living on different diets. That's the real stuff, the holistic experience.

So please, don't blame those around Lunar*Fey. They are doing their best, more or less frustrated of a fragmentary situation, locked into their roles.

Don't worry about Lunar*Fey. She is very special, sensitive with an unusual intuition. She still is a young teenager with all belonging turbulence, but she may already have insights most of us never will get. Sometimes she reads between the lines.

She will carry it out. One day she is back on the path whatever she choices for the future. Her parents will be proud of her.

rawpriestess
08-20-2006, 11:46 PM
Please send her my love and blessings.

spicyfull
08-21-2006, 01:23 AM
My Prayers are with her........

karenbeel
08-21-2006, 02:51 AM
Please send her my thoughts and prayers, I was wondering why I hadn't seen her on the board, thank you dreamrawalwz for keeping us updated.
Blessings to you Lunar*Fey
Karen

fallenangel
08-21-2006, 06:05 AM
Having experienced near fatal anorexia in my family my heart goes out to Lunar Fey and her family who must be so worried about her to take the steps they did. I hope she gets well and that her family understand her RAW path too. Dreamrawalwyz thanks for keeping us informed and she is lucky to have such a caring friend. xxxxxxx
blessings
Yvonne

rawredbone
08-21-2006, 07:41 AM
My prayers are with her as well

Cinnamon
08-21-2006, 09:04 AM
Please let her know that I am also thinking of her.

Nenyath
08-21-2006, 11:36 AM
Please do sent her my love and support! I really hope this works out for her!

Fly forever free!

EmeraldGlow
08-21-2006, 12:33 PM
Thank you Dream for posting this. Did her mom find out about the forum? I was going to send Bristol an email a few mins ago but something told me to go here and check some things first.

I don't even know what to say. I really... it saddens me. Please tell her that I would love to stay intouch! And tell her I am praying for her and I am always sending her my love and thoughts. :) Shes a strong warrior and I know she will be able to get through this!

Much love to ya Dream! Again, Thanks!

Summerloco
08-21-2006, 02:33 PM
Will you please send her my love, and that I am so sorry that she had to go back into an inpatient program, and everything will be ok. Please?

She and I often talk on IM, since we are both anorexic's (in recovery), I was wondering why she hasn't sidned on in a few days, I thought maybe she was visiting her grandparent's in Maine again....

Dimond
08-21-2006, 02:44 PM
Tell her I'm sending good thoughts her way and hope things work out for the best.

Sharon in Colorado
08-21-2006, 02:46 PM
Please send her my wishes to hang in there, enjoy life as much as possible and that her time at home will go by like a flash of light. She has her whole life ahead of her to do as she pleases, there are only a few precious years left at home with her mom.

lissomllama
08-21-2006, 03:24 PM
Send her my love and bright blessings, please.

Dutchie
08-21-2006, 03:29 PM
I also want to send her a lot of love and good thought. ;)
Hope things turns out well for her.

Lay-Lay
08-21-2006, 03:53 PM
Please let her know she is missed and my thoughts and prayers our with her.

Graciebeliever
08-21-2006, 04:06 PM
Me too Me too!!

Gracie says HANG IN THERE GIRL!

SparklePlenty
08-21-2006, 10:05 PM
Tell her I am sending love and blessings.

Gosia
08-21-2006, 10:24 PM
Hugs,
Gosia

Zena
08-21-2006, 10:53 PM
Oh, wow. I really, really, really feel for her. :( I sincerely wish her all the best and hope that she gets through this situation, that she can be free of all this... this stress and negativity and unfounded worry and mistrust. I'm sure she can! She is the strongest girl around my age that I've ever seen. So I'll send her all the good thoughts and encouragement and positivity and trust I can! She really needs it from everybody now! But I'm so glad this forum is here, that so many of you are there to help her and push her on foward. If she can get out of this and get back here, I have a feeling everyone's advice will help her even more to make her life just wonderful.

GreenPrince
08-22-2006, 04:13 PM
Wow!

So much kind consideration,
so much LOVE for our friend!

Please, keep her in your mind
and heart when you go to sleep.

It wouldn't surprise me if her body starts
resorbing more energy from the food and
gains weight – without increasing calories.

lil fairy z girl
08-22-2006, 04:20 PM
please send my love and kind wishes to Lunar*Fey,

thank you,
sal
~*~*~*

rawfigure
08-22-2006, 09:43 PM
Please tell LunarFey she is in my thoughts and prayers....hugs to you dear one !!!!..a tear falls.....

honeybee joy
08-22-2006, 10:31 PM
Please let her know that she is in my thoughts...she will be missed.

Lunar*Fey
08-27-2006, 08:38 PM
wow thank you so much. You are all so wonderful and kind. I don't really know for sure if I will be going to this Renfrew Center. I believe that that is the plan though. I had an hour or so long phone interview with them. Basically my doc wants to send me there because she just doesn't know what to do with me. She didn't even ask my therapist or mother or anyone. She just said I have to send you here because it is my responsibility if you die. I know this is killing you, and she hugged me. I cried. I had lost like four pounds or something, and that is what prompted this decision. I go to the doctor again today. I believe I have gained weight back, but I cannot be sure. I stepped onto a scale today at my grandmother's house so that I wouldn't be shocked tomorrow if I lose weight and start crying again...I could get it all out away from the doc. But the scale said that I was like 5 or 6 lbs heavier! So I am just praying that scale is right. I weighed myself on it before when I was lower and it was about the same as the doc's so I'm really hoping it wasn't changed at all. I have been stuffing myself to death. And my mom keeps saying you can't do it. You need to have more than just what you eat. blah blah blahh. I appreciate her concern but i know in my heart that this is just not so. The only time I gained weight and felt healthy was when I started RAW...
ok I am babbling. I am sorry. I am not really allowed here right now so my time here is brief. I will attempt to keep you updated or maybe Dreamrawalwz will keep you updated.

thank you all and much love <3 I am so grateful :]

luckitri
08-27-2006, 09:01 PM
Great to see you! Please do keep us updated as we will all learn from your experience.

misslinda
08-27-2006, 09:12 PM
WOW! what went on ????????

I missed all this event in your life Lunafrey.

Oh goodness, don't stuff yourself to the point of pain. Is your stomach feeling alright thought? Hang in there, we will be keeping you in thoughts and prayers that this weightloss in the interim is passing. You have been so strong thru this..........don't worry you will make it!

Boy, Renfrew is real reputable. One of my acquaintances was there 4 years ago. Milestones is another good one but some don't take anyone under 18 yrs of age. Pale Refelctions is wonderful for support form other sufferers as well.

:)

GreenPrince
08-28-2006, 03:59 AM
Lunar*Fey, you daughter of the forest.;)

Listen to your heart, a positive change is coming.

goyethere4raw
08-28-2006, 05:15 AM
I was just thinking about Bristol last night and discussion her with my daughter. My daughter was saying she would like to be penpals with her, as they are near the same age, and my daughter is trying to be raw as well. I also had asked my daughter to keep Bristol in her prayers, but had no idea of these latest events.

Wow!, Bristol, you have my email address. If you feel like it and are allowed, just drop me an email, and know that you are in our prayers. In fact, I have already been praying for you, and I didn't even know this was going on!!!

If you email me, I will give you my home contact information again.

Angel

dreamrawalwz
08-28-2006, 08:15 AM
I was just thinking about Bristol last night and discussion her with my daughter. My daughter was saying she would like to be penpals with her, as they are near the same age, and my daughter is trying to be raw as well. I also had asked my daughter to keep Bristol in her prayers, but had no idea of these latest events.

Wow!, Bristol, you have my email address. If you feel like it and are allowed, just drop me an email, and know that you are in our prayers. In fact, I have already been praying for you, and I didn't even know this was going on!!!

If you email me, I will give you my home contact information again.

Angel

Not sure how often she's allowed online. It's rare and she had to sneak on to RFT. I'm actually calling her tonight and I'll ask if I can give her address to the people that requested it and I'll let you know tonight.

Lunar*Fey
08-29-2006, 07:59 AM
Hi everyone.
Again, thank you so much. I am sorry I am not replying to other posts or anything. I am not really supposed to be on here. I just wanted to say my last visit to the doctor showed weight gain. But she didn't really seem to care, she just said they have an open bed for you at Renfrew so you could go as early as tomorrow (which would be today). I really don't want to go, in fact i would almost rather die than go right now. I know in my heart that I do not need it, besides I have had a HUGE appetite lately lol. But it doesn't matter, it is out of my hands I guess...I gained weight and it still didn't matter. Here was what was "wrong" with my recent blood work (which was done before the weight gain)...
total billiruben: 1.24 (high)
CO2: 33 (high)
WBC 3.70 (high)
MVC: 93.2 (high)
MCH: 32.8 (high) I guess this and MVC are red blood cells or something...
Neutrophil #: 1.3 (low)

I don't know what much of that means but that is what the paper says. My pH is 7.5 though! lol, thats good right?

Well, although it seems inevitable I am still hoping that I will not have to go. I had a nice day yesterday once I got rid of the depressed mindset and physical sickness that came along with it after hearing the news.

love,
Lunar*Fey

Dimond
08-29-2006, 08:24 AM
Great to hear from you. Hope things work out.

dreamrawalwz
08-29-2006, 08:43 AM
Hi everyone.
Again, thank you so much. I am sorry I am not replying to other posts or anything. I am not really supposed to be on here. I just wanted to say my last visit to the doctor showed weight gain. But she didn't really seem to care, she just said they have an open bed for you at Renfrew so you could go as early as tomorrow (which would be today). I really don't want to go, in fact i would almost rather die than go right now. I know in my heart that I do not need it, besides I have had a HUGE appetite lately lol. But it doesn't matter, it is out of my hands I guess...I gained weight and it still didn't matter. Here was what was "wrong" with my recent blood work (which was done before the weight gain)...
total billiruben: 1.24 (high)
CO2: 33 (high)
WBC 3.70 (high)
MVC: 93.2 (high)
MCH: 32.8 (high) I guess this and MVC are red blood cells or something...
Neutrophil #: 1.3 (low)

I don't know what much of that means but that is what the paper says. My pH is 7.5 though! lol, thats good right?

Well, although it seems inevitable I am still hoping that I will not have to go. I had a nice day yesterday once I got rid of the depressed mindset and physical sickness that came along with it after hearing the news.

love,
Lunar*Fey

Hmm, I have high CO2 as well. Online you said your WBC was low, not high. I was comparing results with my aunt. In some results my number was lower than hers, but on my test it was considred "high" but on hers it was "normal." Each lab seems to have a different range, which doesn't make any sense to me! I'm giving you a call today when I get home. I'll be at Barns and Nobles doing that writing thing like I suggested to you!

Nenyath
08-29-2006, 10:38 AM
Sending love and strenght and good hope you way Lunar Fey!

Fly forever free..

Sharon in Colorado
08-29-2006, 11:33 AM
I hope you keep us posted when you come out and keep a journal while you are there as well.

You will do fine I am sure. This is just a drop of water in the bucket of life, you will find.

luckitri
08-29-2006, 08:26 PM
Yay! Weight gain! Wish I knew about blood work but I don't. I thought that ph 7 is neutral so 7.5 would be slightly acidic? I really don't know if I have that right either (maybe I have it backwards). Help, someone! Anyway - Yay! Weight Gain!

Spectatrix
08-29-2006, 08:31 PM
7.5 is slightly alkaline. The lower the ph, the more acidic it is.

dreamrawalwz
08-29-2006, 09:30 PM
If anyone besides Lisa and Linda would like Brisol's home address please email me and I will give it to you. She has given me permission to do so, as long as you all know she can only received letters and NOT any sort of package or anything similar.

cassidy
08-29-2006, 09:50 PM
I am so sorry you are having to endure this in you life. It is a deep dark thing and I am so glad you are open with it and doing what you can to help yourself. Would your mother be open to seeing a Naturopath or a diff. doc that can see from you natural point of view.
I am thinking about you and all of these posts have brought me to tears. You will be in my prayers.
Be strong.

Lay-Lay
08-29-2006, 09:52 PM
prayers and warm thoughts are with you Lunar Fey.

luckitri
08-29-2006, 11:42 PM
this link was just posted on another thread - please forward to LunarFey if she doesn't get a chance to come back here.

http://home.bluegrass.net/~jclark/alkaline_foods.htm

It's a wonderful chart with good reassurance about her ph reading.

GreenPrince
08-30-2006, 07:55 AM
The blood analysis talks a stright language, and together with her background it gives indications for her doctor for what to do. I guess they at least will put her on some daily milk products and not regorge them, if they suspect that as a possible scenario.

Lunar*Frey is a very open-hearted on this board. It creates a good contact and a warm flavor around her posts. There is another side. I think she sometimes tells a little, little more than is really good for her. People around her can get slightly irritated, and that isn't always of benefit for her situation.

So, I would definitely dissuade to comments the figures of the blood work here, but as far as I can see, the CO2 and pH are probably not related to her food as such. However, I'm glad she posted the figures, the picture now is more clear.

Lunar*Frey is a clever and bright girl. She will cope with this situation. One day this heavy time is over, and she can fullfill the purpose of her life. But this is a process – and a process takes its time. Patience.

Please again, keep her in your minds and hearts when you go to sleep.

jimi
09-01-2006, 06:52 AM
Best to you Lunar Fey.
Shed no tears - you'll lose water weight :rolleyes:
Chin up - things happen for a reason and for your ultimate benefit.

julesmoz
09-01-2006, 09:18 AM
What happened to her? And how is she doing now?