pancreatic issues

[goodbeets]

So I have been eating mostly raw food for months and the other day I wound up in the hospital with what is most likely a pancreatic attack, passing a stone possibly. Now, if I can only eat one avacado and if I want anything else with fat my pancreas begins to hurt a bit. HAs anyone had anything like this? I feel frustrated because I feel like I know more that my doctor about nutrition which does not help. I love being raw but not fat free!!! Is this a stone from one of the hundreds of big mac's I had as a child? IS there anything I can do? I know y'all ain't doctors but sometimes anecdotal info provides good clues... Thanks for any help

[Framboise]

Oh my, you must have gone through some bad times. I am SOOO sorry to hear about your troubles.

When serious digestive problems come up, fatty foods are just NOT advisable. I would suspect that your pancreas is not producing the enzymes necessary for digesting the fat at present. It needs a rest. I suppose it is still inflamed...

Give it time, and then introduce fatty foods SLOWLY. Not a whole avocado, just a slice or two every couple of days. But if you're only JUST out of hospital, I would not even attempt this.

Take things slowly. This will pass.

[Pierre]

I suggest eating foods high in enzymes, such as pineapple. I thought it was the liver, not the pancreas, that can get into trouble with fat and pass stones. Are you situs inversus?

[Spectatrix]

The pancreas has nothing to do with digesting fats. The liver is the organ that produces bile, which breaks down fat. However, eating fatty foods triggers the gallbladder (which stores bile from the liver) to release bile into the stomach. If you have gallstones, those may get passed as well and can block the common bile duct, backing up the pancreas in the process and causing a bout of pancreatitis.

Yes, I have experience with that. I had gallstones and the resulting pancreatitis and had my gallbladder removed when I was 18. The main treatment for gallstones is surgical removal of the gallbladder itself, which didn't cause any problems for me, but that might not be an option that you want to consider. There are supposed gallbladder "flushes" that people do -- I personally think they're about as credible as "mucoid placque" is, but obviously that's something you can look into yourself and come to a decision on.

[Pierre]

Removing the gall bladder is stupid. If gallstones are treated with surgery, they should remove the stone and leave the bladder. There is a tool called a lithotriptor, which means stone smasher. Not that I know much about it, since I've never had a gallstone, but I have done a liver flush (it consists of fresh mashed lemons, garlic, cayenne, and olive oil, after eating no fat for a few days).

[Lay-Lay]

my dad has severe chronic pancreatitis. His doctors told him to avoid fatty foods and alchohol of course. He is not raw per say, but he eat lots of salads and eats fat occasionally.

Another disease caused by doctors and medicine. When he was first diagnosed they kept saying you must be a heavy drinker. Finally he got the point across that he doesn't drink (he hasn't been able to drink since he 20's because he has bleeding ulcers). The researched for 3 days and finally came back and said the longterm use of his blood pressure medicine caused pancreitis. Nice, huh!

Hope you get to feeling better soon. My dad juice fast after he got out of the hospital with a flair up and he said it really helped.

[Lay-Lay]

Removing the gall bladder is stupid. If gallstones are treated with surgery, they should remove the stone and leave the bladder. There is a tool called a lithotriptor, which means stone smasher. Not that I know much about it, since I've never had a gallstone, but I have done a liver flush (it consists of fresh mashed lemons, garlic, cayenne, and olive oil, after eating no fat for a few days).

I wouldn't call someone stupid for removing their gallbladder. Just because you don't have the knowledge of an alternative doesn't make you stupid. Your just doing the best you can with the knowledge you have at that moment.

I had mine removed. I was experiencing alot of pain at the time. I knew of raw, yet I was suffering and was unable to wait for raw to cure it, that was my choose. Also not all people that have their gallbladder removed do so because they have stones. I had NO stones. Mine was diseased and infected and was causing other infections in my body.

I plan on growing my gallbladder back in the years to come with raw. That is my goal! Can't wait! WHo knows, maybe it is growing back right now, hehe!

Much raw love

[Lay-Lay]

oh by the way coconut milk helps with pancreas.

[juliebove]

My dad had pancreatitis. Now he's on a low fat diet for life. He really suffers if he eats too much fat. As for Drs., they are not the experts on nutrition. At least most of them aren't. You might consider seeing a dietician though. They are the experts, however, I've seen three and none of them were too keen on a vegetarian diet. I shudder to think of what they might say to a vegan.

[Spectatrix]

Removing the gall bladder is stupid. If gallstones are treated with surgery, they should remove the stone and leave the bladder. There is a tool called a lithotriptor, which means stone smasher. Not that I know much about it, since I've never had a gallstone, but I have done a liver flush (it consists of fresh mashed lemons, garlic, cayenne, and olive oil, after eating no fat for a few days).
If they tried just to remove they stones, they'd likely damage the gallbladder anyway. Even if they didn't, stones would likely develop again. Removing the gallbladder doesn't cause most people any trouble. All it means, functionally, is that the liver is releasing bile into the stomach on a fairly constant basis rather than just at meal times. Unless a person eats high-fat meals, it doesn't make much of a difference with digestion. I can honestly say that I am perfectly happy with having my gallbladder removed -- it was definitely preferable to the frequent, debilitating pain of pancreatitis.

[Spectatrix]

Another disease caused by doctors and medicine. When he was first diagnosed they kept saying you must be a heavy drinker. Finally he got the point across that he doesn't drink (he hasn't been able to drink since he 20's because he has bleeding ulcers). The researched for 3 days and finally came back and said the longterm use of his blood pressure medicine caused pancreitis. Nice, huh!
What blood pressure med was it, do you know? I'm on one blood pressure med myself and used to be on a second one.

[Lay-Lay]

I will find out next time I see him and post it.

[alex]

You might want to check out the cleanses in this book: The Cure For All Cancers by Hulda Clark, Ph.D. N.D.

She has six books, I think, I have only read this one so far.

She starts with a parasite cleanse - we are all infested with parasites.

She then moves on to the liver, kidney, gallbladder.

As far as I can tell she has a unique view of the world and it is fascinating reading which has a logic all its own. She comes across as very knowledgeable!!

I have not had the chance to check out all her stuff yet, but I will get around to it soon.

I would highly recommend checking this out!


alex

[goodbeets]

My goodness, thank you all for your insights!! It helps!
Pierre: what is situs inversus?
I will avoid fats but I am really gonna miss my avacados!!! What I don't understand is that I've never had this before and am having symptoms after I've been high raw for 3-4 months? I would think it would help me to not to get pancreatis. Could it be a detox? I certainly ate a great many Big MAc's in my childhood. I love raw but low or no fat? Please, say it ain't so. Also, even though I am raw, I am a scone makin', croissant bakin' baker. I am wondering if the breathing in of all these refined foods (white flour, white sugar, etc.) could be bringing up a problem. Thank you all so much for your caring.

[goodbeets]

One question for "iloverawfoods", coconut milk or coconut water or coconut oil?

[Pierre]

Situs inversus is a rare condition in which the body is mirror imaged. I've probably met a few, as it sometimes occurs in one of a pair of identical twins.

[Lay-Lay]

One question for "iloverawfoods", coconut milk or coconut water or coconut oil?

coconut water

I think you had a pancreas issue, but it may not have surfaced yet. It is possibly detoxing and if that is the case it may not last long. You will be enjoying your avocados again in the futrue, but thats my opinion.

[goodbeets]

Hey, iloverawfoods, let's hope so, and Pierre I don't think I have that as the Dr.'s gave me a sonagram and said everything looks good.

[lynnc72]

When having an attack from passing gallstones, they say to take epsom salt. ES will relax the bile duct and allow the stones to pass painlessly. You can look into it at curezone.com for more information. Mixing ES with grapefruit juice will hide the bitterness some.

Personally, I've gone through a colon cleanse before and have seen lots of "mucoid plaque". I just did my first liver/gallbladder cleanse this past weekend and passed many pea sized stones. I do feel slight improvements with every cleanse and will continue as long as I see results. Improving one's health takes time; there's no such thing as a miracle cure.

[rawlapalooza]

I would give Dr. Robert Morse a call. You can check out his website at www.godsherbs.com

He has tinctures especially for pancreas. I'm on them right now.

He told me a story about someone being raw for a while and then having to be rushed to the hospital due to passing a stone. He said that it was all part of the organ healing itself.

[goodbeets]

Gosh, I really thank all of you, what a community!!!!!! God/dess bless!!