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Tirza
08-15-2006, 04:03 PM
I just ran across this on my AOL home page.

http://aol.mediresource.com/channel_health_news_details.asp?news_id=10393&news_channel_id=44&channel_id=44&relation_id=10586

They say that this is a small study. Can we say that this just isn't true? I am thinking that I wouldn't want to wait until the SAD world completely agrees on this before I was convinced to use a little more caution. Maybe these fats ARE some of the most natural, unrefined fats, but I for one want to regulate my use of them.

Some people have been expressing concern lately over the fat and calorie-rich dessert recipes that are popping up on this forum. They sure are yummy, no argument, but...moderation should be our watchword.

I don't really subscribe to the idea that just because we are eating raw, we can go totally wild on anything that falls into that category. My eating issues are still dogging me, and I doubt that my body is yet a totally reliable guide as to what and how much I should eat.

Maybe after I am all cleansed out, well used to eating raw, and at a good weight and state of health, just maybe my body will have regained enough innate wisdom to "tell" me what, when and how much to eat.

Having said that, I don't expect to become a sargeant-major and regiment my life to the point where I will rebel and "go AWOL" from this diet. I am going to take that nice Raw Food Pyramid http://www.ionizedwater.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/ (scroll down) - and make sure that my diet is generally following those guidelines as to recommended proportions of all this great stuff.

fruit
08-15-2006, 04:22 PM
I know i will continue to eat my coconut oil...
Its probably the sugar and chemicals from the milkshakes and carrot cake causing the problems.I don't beleive all saturated fats are created equal..There is a differance between coconut oil saturated fat and animal fats...

http://www.mercola.com/2003/sep/13/coconut_oil.htm

http://www.mercola.com/forms/coconut_oil.htm

Xanadu
08-15-2006, 04:34 PM
Study the facts in books on raw (virgin) coconut oil. Tropical people did well on it used every which way for centuries and so did we till the corn oil people had studies done and had them interperted their way. Then heart disease started becoming epidemic in this country. The greatly increased availability of processed carbs had the most to do with that but the processed oils helped. Ofcourse the processed food industry can get any study they want done and get it to come out anyway they want to. But moderation and balance is important in all areas of life - you wouldn't want to eat coconut oil and nothing else.

Xanadu
08-15-2006, 04:50 PM
I should have included that of course the carrot cake and milkshake would do that because they were made of highly processed flour, h.p. sugar, h.p. milk, etc. and all cooked/pasteurized therefore minus the enzymes. Thus the insulin mechanism would hop right up there and do it's thing which is store all the fat and calories in the food as fat while throwing the rest of the body into an all out spasm hormonally. On the SAD diet you just can't expect to eat fat and carbs and not get that kind of reaction. If they had eaten berries with virgin coconut oil or say raw carrot cake with a raw coconut/almond milkshake that wouldn't have happened because being raw they would have been much more low glycemic thus not activating the insulin response throwing the whole fat storage mechanism into an uproar. Coconut oil by the way is not like lard or butter which are long chain saturated fats but a medium chain one instead which is rare in nature and with study you will find we need what it does.

beelzebubble
08-15-2006, 07:36 PM
maybe i missed it, but the article didn't specify if they were using hydrogenated coconut oil in the carrot cake, did it?

Lay-Lay
08-15-2006, 07:50 PM
the details of this study seemed incomplete to me.

fruit
08-15-2006, 07:50 PM
I seen nothing about it saying hydrogenated coconut oil.
I don't see how thay can put coconut oil in the same catagory as cheeseburgers and fries cause thats exactly what the study is saying.
They need to note that a good healthy virgin organic coconut oil is not the same as a typical coconut oil on the market or a cheeseburger with fries and a milkshake..

beelzebubble
08-15-2006, 08:06 PM
i found this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_oil

dreamrawalwz
08-15-2006, 09:35 PM
"It's a simple study. Sometimes the best studies are those that are very straightforward,"

Oh but it's not. They don't specify the type of oils. Yes I know cocnut and other, but virgin, raw, what? They react completely differnet in the body. Also as others said, the sugar, fats, eggs, ect. in the cake and milkshake have a huge impact as well.

Tis incomplete!

juliebove
08-16-2006, 03:25 AM
My naturopath tells me I need 1-2 T. of coconut oil per day. Raw, virgin of course! I am finding it hard to get that much in me every day, but I'm trying!

lissomllama
08-16-2006, 06:00 AM
Well we weren't meant to consume oils and fats that are processed and removed from their food source, regardless of how raw or vegan they may be. Just because it is raw or even vegan doesn't always mean it is healthy. I stay away from anything that has been processed or removed from its source and most often packaged as well. But not everyone feels that calling.

AICgem
08-16-2006, 06:25 AM
http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/book_virgin_coconut_oil.htm