View Full Version : Raw vegan in a subarctic area ? a struggle for survival
08-11-2006, 06:59 PM
I walked to our small supermarket to find some fruits and berries for the weekend.
This is what they only had today:
Ananas, apricot, apple, date, pear, fig, peach, physalis,
kumquat, tamarillos, grenadilla, litchie, star fruit, mineolas,
nectarine, carambole, rambutan, passion fruit, mango, papaya,
kiwi, cherry, plums, grape, pomegranate, orange, lime, lemon,
mineolas, nectarine, grape fruit, red grape fruit.
water melon, galia melon, cantaloupe melon, net melon,
honey melon and Piel de Sapo melon.
blue berry, blackberry, strawberry, raspberry and gooseberry.
All fresh, but only 43?
Something is wrong... terribly wrong...
Oh my god! Where are the cherimoyas and guavas? Gone!
This weekend is lost forever! We have to live on a meagre fruit assortment. (Sigh)
More than 95% of you lucky guys are living closer to the equator... how about your assortment?
08-11-2006, 07:04 PM
You can choose from all of that??!?! Wow. I am DEFINITELY living in the wrong place!!!! :p
08-11-2006, 08:35 PM
To me it also looks like quite a bit of choices...Don't forget, you can add some sprouts and maybe even wheatgrass, you can raise yourself indoors and your diet will be better than most of the people in US.
08-12-2006, 08:32 AM
I live pretty much on the equator, but on an island. So, the produce selection is weak. Everything is shipped in and most of what's grown locally is pretty anemic and sad. Not only that, the fresh stuff is OUTRAGEOUSLY expensive! Berries or any sort of Northern fruits are out of the question, they'd never survive the trip down here! I do however have a nice selection of tropical fruits and exotic mellon.... (But I'm alergic to mango :( ) So that kinda sux!
I feel your pain.
08-12-2006, 10:17 AM
You've lost me with your post, I'm afraid. Are you complaining about lack of choice? It seems to me, you're pretty lucky as far as selection goes. I live in Nova Scotia and my grocery store stocks only about half of what you have listed ... and what they do have is quite expensive.
I think I would feel quite spoiled if I could shop at your store! :)
08-12-2006, 11:55 AM
I hope you're joking and not really whining. That's an incredible list.
I live in Alaska, and your selection is greater than mine, and in all honesty, mine is nothing to whine about, there's always something fresh, and slowly but surely, increasingly, organic is available. Grateful as I am for my selection, I'd love to have access to rambutans, and there are things on your list I don't even know.
08-12-2006, 01:30 PM
I live in italy and this morning the organic shop had peaches, nectarines, bananas, apples, kiwis, melons and watermelons.
and i won't talk about the prices... :mad:
08-12-2006, 02:01 PM
WOW! you're joking right?
Jeez all I have to choose from (fruit wise) are bananas, apples, sometimes pears, oranges, and mangos...and sometimes watermelon and pineapple. somtimes strawberries, blueberries. there are a couple other choices, but really really expensive. I could always go to the other store down the road and get crap mangoes for 1.40 each and peaches for 2.00 a pound :eek: NONE of what I get are organic. I am not reallly complaining though, at least there is something
08-12-2006, 02:05 PM
What we have here in Albuquerque, from what I can remember:
apple, orange, banana, pear, grapefruit, mango, watermelon, honeydew, cantaloupe, cherry, peach, nectarine, apricot, blueberry, blackberry, strawberry, raspberry, red grapes, green grapes, lime, lemon, plum, kiwi... I think that's about it.
08-12-2006, 03:57 PM
I'm very fortunite because there is SOOOOOO much selection from both organic and non-organic that it's incredible. I love this time of the year. I live close to China Town so I have access to all of the exotic fruit and veggies, close to local farm markets (organic or non-organic) and close to tons of grocery stores that have lots of fresh organic and non-organic selection as well at reasonable prices. I love living around here. The only problem that I sometimes have is that I think certain kinds of green leafy veggies can be a bit pricy (but everything goes on sale eventually so I can't complain).
I'm sorry to hear about the lack of variety for you guys. I remember when I took a trip down to Albuquerque: I couldn't stand it there because it seemed like there was hardly anything to choose from and it was all really expensive.
Hope the situation starts to improve for you all,
P.S. I live in Victoria BC Canada
08-12-2006, 04:12 PM
Yes, I'm joking. I often joke, especially with myself, but I have some difficulties writing in English, particularly to express nuances. So my jokes often vanish. There is so much I want to tell from my view, but I can't verbalize as I really want.
The intention of my post was to show a paradox the fruit paradox. I live in Sweden and we have a big range of different fruits, at least around the big towns. People don't buy them. They only buy and eat the few fruits they are acquainted with. When I first travelled to a tropical country, I had fruit, fruit, fruit in my mind. My imagination was a tropical fruit paradise. A huge amount of tropical fruits. I was disappointed.
Around the world I have found that people in common eat very little fruit and only a few types, changing with the season. There are people who never eat fruit at all - in the middle of an overflowing fruit area.
I have friends with empty grass covers. I suggest them to plant one fruit tree or two. They look at me as I just arrived from another planet. Here we have four main fruit trees: apple, pear, plum and cherry. If they plant two of every sort, they will in a few years have a wonderful orchard.
I have noticed, that children who can pick they own fruits from trees are often more interested in vegan food as adults.
I want to see a Global fruit tree plantation movement!
It,s late here. Time to go to sleep. But this Forum never sleeps. :)
Good night America... and... Good morning Asia!
08-12-2006, 04:24 PM
:p At first I was like :eek:
08-12-2006, 05:34 PM
My daily fruits are about 1/3 of my calorie intake. Today I ate melon, peach, apricot and banana. And, not to forget blueberry. Deep freezed blueberry everyday, 365 days around the year. I have found the best for me is to limit my fruit intake to 3-4 sorts each day. Of course I appreciate a great assortment to select from.
Now, something more advanced.
I have a dream, so far a science-fiction dream.
The greatest energy source in universe is the vacuum-field-energy of quantum physics (ZPE). This energy is huge and around us. If you hollow your hands together, like hiding an orange between them, the empty space (or air) between them contents energy enough to boil away all ocean water of this planet!
This is a scientific fact but nobody knows how to tap even a microscopic part of this gigantic energy, or if it is possible in the reality. Perhaps a way to realize this energy transformation is by crystals. We have some indications.
The consequences of local energy sources everywhere, completely free, are enormous, not least for fruit lovers. We can grow tropical fruits in green-houses around the year, everywhere; Alaska, Greenland, Antarktis... and all other vegetables too.
08-12-2006, 05:44 PM
What kind of crystals? Quartz crystals? A lot of people think quartz has mystical properties.
08-12-2006, 06:06 PM
I like your dream. Almost every one now seems to go about their day as if in a trance. Wake up, eat their frosted flakes or eggs and bacon with orange juice and milk, go to work, come home, feed their families/selves, watch TV, have a snack, go to bed. repeat. I'm not saying everyone does these things, I was just giving an example. But yes, they seem to live in a trance...living the same day over and over without a second thought. If our minds were only open once more... if we gained back our intense curiosity, our wide open eyes and minds, we could truly live. If we could see more than just "the outside" when we look at nature... the world could be such a better place. People would be open and maybe we would be able to utilize this energy, for we are a part of the earth...but our civilization has come to be very seperate from it. It is so sad, very sad. Someday I hope to raise a family that is as close to a part of the earth as we can be in this synthetic, so very materialistic civilization our ours.
I would love to meet you in person, green prince. your thoughts help me open my mind :)
08-13-2006, 05:34 PM
Quartz crystals mainly. No smoke without fire, but this topic is out of this forum. I only saw a connection to a future world with an increased plantation of fruit trees around the world.
08-13-2006, 05:38 PM
You don't need to open your mind. It's already open enough for this stage of your development. ;)
The only thing you need is to get into balance. You are an old wise soul - and somehow you know it.
08-14-2006, 10:18 PM
you are right, what I need IS to get into balance. definately. I think you are most definately the wise one here, but I shall take your compliment lol :) thank you.
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