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08-10-2006, 05:36 PM
I recently made some stuff with sprouted buckwheat and oat groats and it was so yummy I ate lots of it at once.
Well, not too long after, my joints started feeling very "puffy" for lack of a better word and achey.
Is this something that happens with grains sometimes? I just had this intuitive feeling in my body they were the culprit.
08-10-2006, 05:39 PM
It may be because many grains contain gluten. Gluten is particularly aggrivating to many people's systems. Personally, I don't feel that grains are healthy or neccessary but yes, they generally taste good. I try to avoid anything with gluten as a rule. I believe that quinoa is gluten free.
08-10-2006, 05:40 PM
you are probably sensitive to grains.
08-10-2006, 05:42 PM
If your oat groats were not "truly" raw (as in from a reputable source that truly sells raw food such as Alissa's site, etc) then it could be the oat groats because the ones in the natural food stores are most often steamed and thus, not truly raw. Buckwheat, I've never had nor heard of anyone having issues with it and buckwheat is not botanically considered a grain, but rather a fruit (or the seed of a fruit...something like that).
A friend of mine who healed herself of severe arthritis with raw says that a lot of grains can aggravate already existing joint pain.
08-10-2006, 11:09 PM
wow, really? I bet that is it b/c I do have already existing join pain that had really decreased with raw, until then...
does your friend just avoid all grains then? My problem is I really miss them, I loved my oatmeal!!
08-10-2006, 11:18 PM
i have problems with grains..bc of gluten
i steer clear of wheat/gluten completely
Grains are bad news.
08-12-2006, 12:08 AM
Buckwheat is no relation to the wheat family. I am not sure of its gluten content but I have read that it is full of bioflanoids and ruten. The article said that during WWII the Russian soldiers only had buckwheat and garlic to eat and no-one understood how that could sustain them until later years research proved among other things - that buckwheat is a complete protein. Interesting that buckwheat and millet are the only two in that category are complete proteins by themselves and they both grow in abundance in Russia where the people have lived in poverty for centuries. (One of my little jokes when people ask me what I am eating - I say "Soul Food from Russia!" ha ha
08-12-2006, 08:11 AM
There is no gluten i buckwheat. Oat contains gluten, but it seems to be a modified type of gluten or maybe there are protecting factors in oat since a gluten intolerant person usually tolerates oat.
A coloring agent in some buckwheat types can create a sensitivity to light.
08-12-2006, 08:20 AM
Grains are not a good food choice for humans. Many, many people have difficulty with them. We are really only meant to eat fruits, veggies and smaller amounts of nuts and seeds. You might want to read a great book about why grains are bad for people by Dr Graham. It's called "Grain Damage" and you can get it on Amazon. It is a small book and inexpensive.
All the best,
Helen Of Tennessee
08-12-2006, 08:42 AM
Yep . . . if I eat grains I get joint pain as well as a headache. Night shades do the same to me.
08-12-2006, 10:19 PM
Oats do not contain gliadin which is the problem. All grains contain gluten-it's the gliadin that people react to (a truly gluten sensitive person would react to corn, rice etc.) Celiacs sometimes react to oats because in the US they are cross-contaminated. Buying them from another country (like Ireland) remedies this problem.
08-12-2006, 11:31 PM
Buckwheat is not a grain - it is a member of Polygonaceae (xruba, in Lojban - the only language I know with a short word for this family). Besides buckwheat (xrixruba), other xruba are rhubarb (stanyxruba) and sorrel (pezyxruba - not to be confused with wood sorrel, which is unrelated).
Quinoa is not a grain either. It is a goosefoot, in the same family as epazote, lamb's quarters, spinach, beet, and orach. Some botanists merge the goosefoot family with the amaranth family.
Millet is a grain - several grains actually.
When I read the topic, I thought "Bread with grain?" (pain is French for bread). ;)
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