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munchkin
08-09-2006, 03:27 AM
Hello all,
I have lost over 10 pounds since starting in th middle of july, but now I have darker rings under my eyes and I feel tired. What am I doing wrong, if anyone has experienced this or something similar I would love to hear how you handled it, usually for 5 days a week i am 90% raw and on the weekends around 60-70%.
Bye for now

juliebove
08-09-2006, 03:40 AM
Dark rings are often a sign of allergy, dairy allergy in particular. Are you eating something now that you weren't before? Could be that you are allergic to something. The rings under my eyes lessened a bit when I changed my diet, but I still have hayfever allergies so it is doubtful they'll ever totally go away.

Arky
08-09-2006, 04:18 AM
Dark rings around the eyes are potentially-indicative of a number of different things such as liver imbalance or sodium-potassium imbalance. Are you eating lots of fruit with very little greens? Are you overdoing it on the nuts and/or seeds?

Please give us some idea of your typical daily food intake.


J.

rawnora
08-09-2006, 11:25 AM
As long stored toxins and wastes are liberated back into the bloodstream (which is a natural and desirable consequence of dietary improvements), they come into contact with nerve endings and cause irritation and sometimes even inflammation. When they circulate through the vessels in the head, they cause headaches. This will go away as your body continues to cleanse, which could take weeks or months, depending on many factors like how old you are, how well you are eating, etc. It doesn't mean you're doing anything wrong. When any symptom arises, a person should cooperate with the body's efforts by eating as lightly as possible (meaning low on the fats, complicated recipes, dried foods, etc.) until the symptom goes away. Dark circles may be a good sign as well, such as improved blood flow, fat loss, the body releasing water it previously retained to dilute poisons, etc. I have them. Usually they are just a facial feature that is largely inherited, like a big nose or high cheek bones. They should definitely not be seen as a sign of 'deficiencies' or that you're doing anything wrong.

Nora
www.RawSchool.com

munchkin
08-09-2006, 01:29 PM
Dark rings around the eyes are potentially-indicative of a number of different things such as liver imbalance or sodium-potassium imbalance. Are you eating lots of fruit with very little greens? Are you overdoing it on the nuts and/or seeds?

Please give us some idea of your typical daily food intake.


J.
hi arky, well on most days i eat this
I either have a glass of orange juice for breakfast or a banana and a glass of warm water and lemon juice.
i usually snack every 2 hours if i am hungry, sometimes i wont eat till lunch time, if i snack i eat apples and oranges for lunch sometimes a salad but most times i work through lunch so i nibble at fruit and cherry tomatoes, sometimes i have a cup of tea to keep me going, because i travel 2 hours back and forth to work 3 times a week.
When i get home, i usually have tomato and mozzarella salad or some grapes and carrots, and i am really craving salt i eat marmite on crackers, but that has only happened once.
I know i am supposed to be vegan but i love sushi!!!
Well this is what i eat for 5-6 days of the week(sushi is once a week), on the other days i eat the same for most of the day but in the evenings i may eat a greensalad with some wholewheat garlic bread and anchovies(those days i am with my boyfriend)

Xanadu
08-09-2006, 02:46 PM
sometimes i have a cup of tea to keep me going, because i travel 2 hours back and forth to work 3 times a week.
When i get home, i usually have tomato and mozzarella salad or some grapes and carrots, and i am really craving salt i eat marmite

I think perhaps the tea, which is probably caffeinated and therefore a stimulant that exhausts your adrenals, the mozzarella and the marmite might be problems for you. The energizing effect you are seeking from the tea can be had from other things like barley green juice, fruit juice, etc. Cheeze (unless it is raw nut cheeze) is a big problem for most humans increasing leaky gut syndrome and thus allergic reactions whether they realize it or not since we were not designed to eat baby cow food and with the mostly raw diet your system is probably becoming more sensitive to to the bad effects it can have. Marmite, while I believe it is from a plant kingdom source if I remember correctly, is still dead after the processing so your body will treat it as a toxin. I am relatively new to the raw diet (2.5 months) but I have read a ton of stuff on it and I know already what going back and forth from living to dead food does to me. It is worth considering at least.

Lay-Lay
08-09-2006, 05:37 PM
Toxins baby....its all about the toxins. Get rid of them by eating lots of raw and bye-bye headaches and circles. Mine are all gone now.

Arky
08-10-2006, 01:40 PM
hi arky, well on most days i eat this
I either have a glass of orange juice for breakfast or a banana and a glass of warm water and lemon juice.
i usually snack every 2 hours if i am hungry, sometimes i wont eat till lunch time, if i snack i eat apples and oranges for lunch sometimes a salad but most times i work through lunch so i nibble at fruit and cherry tomatoes, sometimes i have a cup of tea to keep me going, because i travel 2 hours back and forth to work 3 times a week.
When i get home, i usually have tomato and mozzarella salad or some grapes and carrots, and i am really craving salt i eat marmite on crackers, but that has only happened once.
I know i am supposed to be vegan but i love sushi!!!
Well this is what i eat for 5-6 days of the week(sushi is once a week), on the other days i eat the same for most of the day but in the evenings i may eat a greensalad with some wholewheat garlic bread and anchovies(those days i am with my boyfriend)


Well, you're getting plenty of potassium from the bananas but, other than the anchovies, you're not going to get much sodium from what you've listed, especially of the (ideal) organic kind, such as would be obtained from celery (more on this in Anderson's Cleanse & Purify Thyself - Book One). Just something to think about, and, as I said before, only one of many possibilities.

With regard to the sushi, yes, this is a vegan board, but let me just point out that sushi must be frozen to below minus-60 degrees centigrade in order for parasites to be killed - some sushi vendors do not make the effort to do this and thus put you at risk of parasites.


J.

eatyourbroccoli
08-10-2006, 03:26 PM
track your nutrient intake (not caloric intake) over fitday.com or a site like it for a few days or a week or so.

youre probably not getting enough of a key vitamin/mineral, and that can be easily fixed by adjusting diet or with a whole food multi vitamin.

good luck

eatyourbroccoli
08-10-2006, 03:27 PM
oh, ps

magnesium and b vitamins are often the culprits of lack of energy.

so check those levels out. i feel 100% better now that i take a whole food multi everday.

to each his own though

munchkin
08-14-2006, 05:48 AM
Hello arky and eat your broccoli!!!

thanks for all your feedback, i am feeling a little bit better, but have bloating and still the dark rings, I am taking supplements with B complex, I have been since I started being raw, the temperature has dropped to 15 degrees celsius on a daily average and now i am craving warm drinks and food, and i know its going to cool down more now, how do people handle the cold, and still remain raw?