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honeybee joy
08-01-2006, 09:26 PM
I really feel like an alien sometimes. Not litteraly, but it is weird to go out and see all of these people eating garbage, and it seems normal to them. I know I don't fit in anymore! That is ok, but something about it bothers me. I haven't been able to put my finger on it. It could be that the temptation is still there even though I know what I know. I guess the only thing I can come up with is that I am luck that I found this stuff out. I truely believe that is the best way to live, taste and health wise. Still trying to put my finger on it. I feel sadness for everyone. They are missing out. What is wrong with me? I can't stop thinking about it! I know that I am suppost to be thinking positive, but I feel alone! I feel the need to connect with those in my life and I just feel like there is a brick wall. Right now this is a lonely path. I know it won't be forever.

Ever feel that way? Does it ever bother you? I haven't figured out how to deal with it in a logical, non-emotional way. Any suggestions?

Green Life
08-01-2006, 09:33 PM
We must have been reading each others' minds, LOL!

Yes, I am feeling like that. Sorta out of place or something. I was even going to start a thread about this very thing, but you beat me to it.

To me, it feels like I'm looking for something, like I've lost something and am in a foreign land just walking around aimlessly.


Cheers!
Green :D Life

Sharon in Colorado
08-01-2006, 09:36 PM
Never forget we once were one of "them"!

juliebove
08-01-2006, 09:39 PM
Alien? No. But I do get a disgusted feeling when I am surrounded by people who are eating junk. Some of them even celebrate it! Oh yeah! An party! Another reason to eat junk! And here's the weird thing. When I throw a party, I don't serve junk. I serve only healthy stuff. People eat it. I mean they really eat it! They like it! And they tell me they wish they could eat like this all the time. But they don't. They eat the junk. This, I don't get.

I also know I'm not going to change anybody. At times I feel like I have to focus more on me and not on what they are doing. I used to avoid social gatherings because they were so upsetting to me. But then one day I decided there was no reason to do this. By doing this I was allowing the others to control me, in a sense. So I would go. And if the food was not suitable, I would bring my own food. Now restaurants, different matter. Not much I can do about that except to occasionally refuse to go if in fact there really is nothing there I can eat.

I think it does help that I was a vegetarian for many years. People got used to that. Then the diabetes. Then the food allergies. People are used to my not eating the way they do. I try not to make comments about it. I do occasionally slip up. Like when someone offers me Cool Whip or something that I consider to be nothing but transfats and chemicals. I might then shudder and say something like, "How can you eat that stuff?" But mainly I try to bite my tongue.

I truly believe there is no one diet that will work for all of us. I also believe that each of us has our own focus in life. We are not all at the same level of consciousness. My awareness at the moment is food, fitness and health. That's how it has to be for me. Others might be totally focused on something else and that's how it has to be for them. I just have to remind myself of that. :D

Linda1970
08-02-2006, 10:30 AM
Hi Julie,

I feel the same way. It is a lonely road. I wasn't vegan/vegetarian before, so eating this way is a very dramatic change. My family won't understand, so I do it in silence.

Ariannah
08-02-2006, 10:55 AM
.... and in some "small talk" social circles where they're talking about either how they "hate to cook" on such a hot day, or "I can't rely on my husband to make dinner, he's a terrible cook". I kind of sit there silently, just smiling and nodding.

LovesAnimals777
08-02-2006, 11:17 AM
Yes. It's not just about food. It affects other parts of my life because I choose to live a simple way of life which involves deattachment from things and experiencing the wonders of nature etc.

Revvell
08-02-2006, 12:01 PM
Been there, done that. Now I celebrate my differences. I remember "trying" to fit in and knowing I didn't. Finally, found out who I was after shedding all the facades and life is just a total celebration.

What's funny is, I went to a Toastmaster's meeting for the first time and I sat with a woman who said she was a school teacher. I said ~ do you enjoy it? she said "yes. You have to enjoy it because it's so hard". I said "Good because if it's not fun you shouldn't be doing it". She said "Well, you can't have fun all the time". Ummm, yeah, ya can. She looked at me very strangely... as though I were an alien. LMAO

See, I'm not the alien. To me, she's the strange one. I realized I do NOT fit in with those people soooooo, don't think I'll be going to that meeting again.

Revvell

RawChicky
08-02-2006, 12:09 PM
I used to feel like that but I've learned to just respect people and their choices. I don't judge people or feel isolated for any of my religious beleifs, and just because I think they are right, doesn't mean that I should impose my beleifs on anybody else or fell different or alienated for having different beleifs. I think the same goes for food choices. Everybody should have the freedom to choose what they eat without being judged . What's right for me may not be what's right for someone else. I don't judge what anybody else eats and I expect that they won't judge me. This helps me feel less like an "alien" or that I don't belong.

honeybee joy
08-02-2006, 12:58 PM
I figured out why this feeling has been bothering me. This is what made me realize what it was. I was looking at this: http://pug.meetup.com/517/events/5009402/

I have yet to go to one of the events, because of being busy, and I was thinking about it, but then noticed they were talking about drinking, and eating food. I think the last one they had hot dogs. I don't drink, and I don't eat hot dogs. I am thinking what do I have in common with these people? Except that I have a pug? I am sorry if this sounds negative, but I need to work thru these feelings or I will go in circles. If you feel the need to erase it, that is ok. I feel isolated. Am I doing this to myself? I just find it hard to relate to most people anymore. I guess the thing is I have finally gotten to the point where I would like to get out and have a social circle to hang out with, and maybe have a couple of close friendships in my area. It is so hard to talk about raw foods with those who have brick walls up, or who just don't get it. I guess I just need to feel understood, and I am not. It is really hurting me. I have been crying about it guys!

Anyone have any wise advice? Revvell, you always have a good one.

Revvell
08-02-2006, 01:47 PM
Yup! What you first need to do is love yourself then you'll always have someone to love. :)

I agree, just going to something because you have one thing in common...waste of time except! Just maybe some of the folk there don't drink, smoke, eat hot dogs, etc., and they may just be looking for someone like you!

I know when one is young it seems as though it's harder to be different and not have friends to hang out with. Even one really good friend is good.

And yes, isolation is self-imposed. Ice-o-lation. I isolated myself ~ more like insulated myself. When one isolates they also insulate ~ it's a way of keeping from being hurt ~ yet, it's also a way of keeping onself from being happy.

Revvell

honeybee joy
08-02-2006, 01:58 PM
Your right. Deep down I haven't been loving myself lately, I fell off balance, and was struggling to get back up. Thank you Revvell. That is what I needed to hear.

Sharon in Colorado
08-02-2006, 01:58 PM
Honey Bee - I think we all go through this.

I go to a couple of churches and find that any events around it or associated with it, there'll be cooked food. In the kids classes, they are bribed or rewarded with candy.

My family is very active in Taekwondo. After classes, there's always a huge bucket of bubble gum on the counter, and this is after the Master tells kids to eat lots of fruits and vegetables and not junk food? We often get invited out with other families or to other family's homes. It's always centered around cooked food.

When my husband was working for a company out here, all us wives of the executives and owners would get togther often over cooked food.

Everything is really centered around food, or dessert, or "coffee" around here. I don't know why this has to be, but I just try to ignore it and concentrate on the people, not the food.

It is just everywhere. So we as normal people need to just accept the fact that many folks in our social circles are going to eat differently. I have made a few friends out here who are raw, and have even been an influence on a couple of people in my TKD class, but I just except that they are different, they eat different and view health and even the world differently.

P.S. Take the pug to the event. Remember what you are there for - the pugs, not the pigs, lol. Enjoy the dogs and their owners. You can do this without feeling overwhelmed about the food and drink there.

sport
08-02-2006, 02:51 PM
I have to say that I never feel like an alien but I sometimes look around me at feel that they are all aliens.
I am the normal one.
It still comes as a surprise to me when I find my friends doing those things.
I was travelling yesterday with a friend and on the plane we shared my fruit (I had taken enough for both) but it seemed so odd to me that when we got to the end of our journey she had some sushi. I am constantly having to remind myself that these people do these things and I look at my friends and think "there is dead meat in her".
It feels weird to me.

Graciebeliever
08-02-2006, 03:08 PM
Yes alien is the word I guess.

I went into work today and they had ordered pizza. It looked like road kill to me :(

ME ME who loved it like there was no tomorrow. I couldn't even look at it.
I thought about the stuff waiting for me at home. The Salads and fruit and the flavors.. Ahhhh

I know they all look at me weird and if I am an ALIEN than I am :)

I does bring a wave of grief over me to think how I could have done that and now, how others still do..

**Grows a set of RAW Martian anteneas**

:)

honeybee joy
08-03-2006, 12:12 AM
Sometimes being an alien is good...like when you go into a Quick Trip for a banana and they are all green, so the stocker guy points at a ripe banana that he is going to throw away and says "It's yours" and he meant for free. ;)

honeybee joy
08-03-2006, 12:14 AM
I also think it is funny when people say raw foods have no flavor, while I am thinking, cooked food has no flavor, it is the raw that tastes good!

eachpeachpearplum
08-03-2006, 01:45 AM
I look forward to the time when Raw replaces the low carb fad. Every where you go it will say we serve "Raw" here.

The markets will have prepared "raw"

The fast food joints will offer "raw"

The food Channel with have a "raw" segment

It WILL be cool to be RAW!

The AMA will promote "raw". . . .

juliebove
08-03-2006, 02:34 AM
I figured out why this feeling has been bothering me. This is what made me realize what it was. I was looking at this: http://pug.meetup.com/517/events/5009402/

I have yet to go to one of the events, because of being busy, and I was thinking about it, but then noticed they were talking about drinking, and eating food. I think the last one they had hot dogs. I don't drink, and I don't eat hot dogs. I am thinking what do I have in common with these people? Except that I have a pug? I am sorry if this sounds negative, but I need to work thru these feelings or I will go in circles. If you feel the need to erase it, that is ok. I feel isolated. Am I doing this to myself? I just find it hard to relate to most people anymore. I guess the thing is I have finally gotten to the point where I would like to get out and have a social circle to hang out with, and maybe have a couple of close friendships in my area. It is so hard to talk about raw foods with those who have brick walls up, or who just don't get it. I guess I just need to feel understood, and I am not. It is really hurting me. I have been crying about it guys!

Anyone have any wise advice? Revvell, you always have a good one.

My husband is pushing us to go to the annual Coast Guard picnic this Friday. Neither my daughter nor I want to go. I saw the menu. There is nothing I can eat there. Nothing. Okay, technically I could eat the watermelon but I hate watermelon. My daughter could eat that. But nothing else. I'm not even sure about the drinks. Often they have some kind of weird, offbrand stuff. So if we went, we'd have to bring our own food and drinks. Which would be okay with them, but we'd still have to pay the entry fee. Yes, there will be games, pony rides, etc. But these things do not interest me one bit and my daughter doesn't like this stuff either. This was the kind of stuff she liked at age 2 or 3. Not age 8. And neither of us likes to be outdoors for long. Blah!

swingbolder
08-11-2006, 02:03 PM
I look forward to the time when Raw replaces the low carb fad.

You are so right!!!!

When that day comes, there'll be raw food everywhere.

People may even think that we're "chic." ;)

Lay-Lay
08-11-2006, 02:51 PM
I don't feel this way at all. They eat what they eat I eat what I eat. The thing is we all eat and most improtantly is everyone happy.

We are all different. Rejoice in good food and good company when you got it.

Lay-Lay
08-11-2006, 02:53 PM
I look forward to the time when Raw replaces the low carb fad. Every where you go it will say we serve "Raw" here.

The markets will have prepared "raw"

The fast food joints will offer "raw"

The food Channel with have a "raw" segment

It WILL be cool to be RAW!

The AMA will promote "raw". . . .

I love your fantasies!

freetarian
08-12-2006, 04:40 AM
I must say I dont feel like an alien food wise, but I do feel like an alien when Im in the city. It takes discipline to not simply run away but do my shopping.
The lifeless asphalt, the concrete blocks, the shops and people, it makes me sick. I just look at it like a complete alien and wonder how the hell people can live like that. I feel like set out on the moon when Im in the city. I feel at home in the woods though. Nothing is scary in nature, but the city with all its streets and cars is a hostile place for me.
But maybe if I was used to it then I wouldnt feel like a trapped wild animal when Im in the city. There a plenty of animals living there, and if they can do it, then I might also be able to live there without running away. Good I dont live in the city though, so I dont have to try, lol!


:cool:

stiletto
08-15-2006, 10:57 PM
Sometimes I just don't get into it with people. I make the event about the people, the weather, the activity, etc... When it's time to eat, I try not to draw attention to myself. I just have whatever I can or grab a lara bar out of my bag, etc.. I find buffets, weddings, etc. always have so much fruit and raw veggies because they are trying to save money and that's the cheap stuff. so I get to eat so much. You don't have to defend your food any more than they do.

I remember going through this at other events before I was even raw...like when I was just vegetarian. Or even before that when I would simply refuse a dessert out of fear of gaining weight. People would automatically get defensive and start picking on me. (OH, look - she won't eat any cookies! or Look, she's only having salad.... it's always the skinny ones).
I find that to be just as abusive as if I had said "look, it's always the fat ones eating cookies". Now, THAT would be rude, wouldn't it? Why is the other not?

Anyway, focus on the people, change the subject or simply say "I'm fine, thanks" the less you say the better unless someone is truly interested with an open mind.

I hope you work through this.
Peace,
Stiletto

SparklePlenty
08-16-2006, 09:51 PM
The Law of Attraction dictates that 'what you focus on expands'. So rather than focusing on how different and alien you feel, get clear about what kind of people you would like to encounter, imagine yourself finding these kinds of people wherever you go and guess what, you will! I always encounter warm, friendly people who, once we get to talking, demonstate to me somehow that they are living in higher consciousness. I got tired of feeling like you do and decided to allow the LOA to work in this area of lmy life as it does in all others. Try it and see. They are out there, you just need to decide to become a magnet for them! :)

whoeva
09-17-2006, 01:32 PM
It's been a while since you posted here honeybee so I don't know if you're still feeling this way but I think I understand exactly what you are/were feeling.

Forgive my comments if they are wrong as I don't even know you but I feel you have compassion for the lives of others and their well-being and you wish they would all have the same knowledge you have learned about how health and diet are intimately linked.

The majority of these people eating this junk do not understand that the old saying "you are what you eat" is so literally true that if you eat junk, your body is then made out of junk and a body made from junk cannot operate for any length of time without suffering in some way or another.

The inevitable future suffering of the people you see around you is causing yourself to suffer since you understand what is necessary for these people to avoid such suffering. The fact that they are ignorant of the truth is not something that they can be wholly blamed for since alot of money is spent on brainwashing people to think that junk is good for them to eat.

Try not to think of yourself as not fitting in to the world anymore but think more that you are a pioneer of the paradigm shift that is occuring on this planet whereby more and more people are realising that the current "normal" way of living is not the natural way we are supposed to live.

You can help these people by showing them there is an alternative to the brainwashed lifestyle they have become accustomed to. All you have to do is continue being the best honeybee joy you can possibly be and your light will shine on for them all to see.

Be strong in yourself and the choices you have made and they will see your light and be drawn to it and wonder what it is that makes you so beautiful. Then you have the chance to tell them the truth about food and why you are so healthy and one by one you can help change peoples lives foreva.

I hope my words make sense to you and you do not feel offense that I should assume the thoughts you have inside your head but I also feel I live in a reality not shared by the majority and though it can be difficult at times I continue to talk to those who will listen about the real truth of what is going on with this planet.

So, did you take your dog to the pug meet thing yet?

abundancia2007
10-07-2006, 04:19 PM
I really feel like an alien sometimes. Not litteraly, but it is weird to go out and see all of these people eating garbage, and it seems normal to them. I know I don't fit in anymore! That is ok, but something about it bothers me. I haven't been able to put my finger on it. It could be that the temptation is still there even though I know what I know. I guess the only thing I can come up with is that I am luck that I found this stuff out. I truely believe that is the best way to live, taste and health wise. Still trying to put my finger on it. I feel sadness for everyone. They are missing out. What is wrong with me? I can't stop thinking about it! I know that I am suppost to be thinking positive, but I feel alone! I feel the need to connect with those in my life and I just feel like there is a brick wall. Right now this is a lonely path. I know it won't be forever.

Ever feel that way? Does it ever bother you? I haven't figured out how to deal with it in a logical, non-emotional way. Any suggestions?

You said the EXACT same things that I feel. I take care of disabled people, and although I get paid well, more than I have ever made before, if there is one reason I would ever quit, it is that I am enabling people to be sick by working for them, because they have me fry chicken, get them ice cream and pop, etc. But, I am in a process of letting go, because I need the work. It's the first I've been able to work since my own health collapse, and it's my security. They will need pills for as long as they need processed, cooked, and acidic food, and my yacking about it will not change their minds. All I can do is to be a good example. I turned down a piece of cheesecake at one of their house's. I have NEVER turned down cheesecake before. I said I was on a challenge and needed to stick to it for the time being. (Had just seen that there as a 30 day challenge but haven't joined it yet...). They can tell fluctuations in my health just in how I work, and if I am not allowed to say what I know, all I can do is to live what I know. It makes me incredibly sad to observe the effects of acidic food on people and know they have no clue.

I fought EVERY DAY for 3 years to attain wellness with natural things and a naturopathic doctor, and I don't know how a person would not want to be the most well they could ........... even if they had to change their diet. The more I read about how harmful SAD is, the more judgmental I am. Today, I put all the things I have for making raw stuff on my table, then took everything else on the shelves in the kitchen and put it away (elsewhere), then arranged the raw stuff in the way I wanted. Part of the problem has been a small kitchen and cannot find what I need, so raw stuff needs to be foremost in my mind and easy to reach to prevent reverting to quick and easy SAD foods.

I feel terribly alone too, for no one around me, and no email friend, and no one I take care of, gets what I am getting at, about living, bioactive, and biogenic food. My dad is really the only one who would understand it. This is his lifestyle, since he wrecked his health in his 20's and had to get it back. I long for friendships that would be supportive to me in this, but I am not going to push anything and let the people who accept me for who I am, gravitate to me. If that means I have to be alone, it means I have to be alone. I am strong enough to do this alone. But it would be fun to make stuff for others and have people enjoy it.

abundancia2007

abundancia2007
10-07-2006, 04:24 PM
.... and in some "small talk" social circles where they're talking about either how they "hate to cook" on such a hot day, or "I can't rely on my husband to make dinner, he's a terrible cook". I kind of sit there silently, just smiling and nodding.

I can sooo relate to the silent smiling and nodding. I take people to the food bank as part of being a caregiver. There is always this lady there that often mentions she's tired of cooking. I have to really bite my tongue, and just smile inwardly and think: "Then don't! Eat it raw."

abundancia2007

maraw
10-07-2006, 04:59 PM
It's the grocery story line that always gets me! Standing there with my beautiful fruits and vegetables going by on the conveyor belt - and the person behind me stacking up boxes of soda, multi-colored mac and cheese, dinosaur-shaped chicken nuggets, and green Doritos!

It really, physically hurts me to see it. I long to tell them what they are doing to their families. But of course, I can't. It makes me feel week, and yes, like an alien.