View Full Version : NO more Black olives!!!
07-14-2006, 12:25 AM
Well, my dear raw family.
I am at 120 days raw, and am dropping my beloved kalamata black olives.
I ran out a few days ago, I buy them in huge big black plastic barrels, from the deli, I know they are raw, but they simply have way too much salt and they must have something else in them, because I have been paying really close attention lately to how my body feels, and when I eat any olives, the next day I am all sniffly nosed, like I ate dairy.
So, for what ever reason that is happening, I am just not going to eat them anymore.
besides, I like them way too much, so I think they have something in them that I probably am addicted too.
much like the Braggs that I liked way too much, so much that I was dowsing everything in it. YIKES!!--well, I dropped that, and I wasn't craving so much. LOL
07-14-2006, 12:58 AM
Good for you. I'm wary of those things right off the bat so when I went 100% raw I quit them after less than a week and I'm pretty much sticking to a very simple version of raw veganism that is really close to mono eating and this works for me. The only questionable things I've eaten once going raw are cashews and olives and I felt the need to drop/severely limit those things. I try to limit dehydrated things as well and I've never tried nama shoyu, miso, brags, vinegar, olive oil etc. because I don't feel that they are really raw or meant to be eaten by humans, deep down and I'm sure they'd taste great but so does taco bell. While those things aren't alike at all, I don't need a raw food crutch because that is essentially the same thing as having a food crutch on a cooked diet and I don't even like that mentality as far as food goes. That being said, I'm researching finding raw brown rice and raw chickpeas and beans and seeing if they will sprout. If they sprout for me I may eat them after some more research on whether or not they are meant to be eaten by people and of course then I'd do the ever important taste test. Does this taste and feel raw on my tongue and in my body? That's just me though.
07-14-2006, 01:02 AM
I agree with you,
As I am more and more raw, I am more and more simple in my eating habits, but it's taken me a while to get here. LOL
I figure, if I'm 100% raw, that is the most important thing, so if eating rawviolies keeps me raw, so be it,
but as I continue on my raw path, instead of eating 3 huge raw gourmet meals with 2 or 3 raw gourmet snacks, I'm eating two raw mono meals, and 2 raw mono snacks, with 1/4 of a raw gourmet side dish, at the most.
07-14-2006, 01:09 AM
Yeah, the journey is different for everyone. I still eat some raw gourmet stuff as long as it doesn't have any questionable ingredients 'in my book'. For the most part though, I found that going hardcore, strict raw off the bat was the best thing for me to stick with it. We all have different needs and whatever can help you stay raw and move forward is the best path to take.
07-14-2006, 09:13 AM
I here you RP & llama, I have almost completly cut out dehydrated foods because I just don't fell optimal on them. I am having very few gourmet items. Oh and I have also cut out nuts and avocados for the most part. Since this latest transition I have found more energy, but I am not sure if that stems from the changes in my diet or the Maca that I have been on everyday since Saturday.
07-14-2006, 10:06 AM
I get black olives from "detox your world".
They are sundried and unsprayed and I just soak them in water for a few days. They may not taste as good as the ones that you are used to but they have grown on me (well thay have grown in Peru but you all know what I mean).
07-14-2006, 11:16 AM
Ah yes RP I am with you on this one. I have a serving left and I am done too. I ate some yesterday on my salad and I felt bloated thru the evening.
I also find that the dehydrated foods cuase me to want to eat more and more of that food. Similar to my eating SAD crackers and cereal. I eat too much !!
So I too am trying to eat all my foods in the Natural state.
07-14-2006, 11:36 AM
It is so good that you are listening to your body when it lets you know that a particular food is not agreeing with you. I find that if you want to achieve maximum health, this is exactly the thing to do and that our bodies will let us know little by little what we need to stop doing that is less than optimal for them. Staying in tune with our bodies and trusting their wisdom is a wonderful gift that we can give ourselves. Good for you! Sometimes it can be difficult emotionally to give up some of our favorite foods, but the reward is so great in terms of increased health and happiness.
07-14-2006, 03:34 PM
That's very interesting..I looove olives too but they make me sniffly the next day as well!!!
07-15-2006, 03:29 AM
I have read that olives are good for aid in healing the adrenals, I think I read that in Eating for Beauty. Do you have weak adrenals? Or a weak thyroid? Usually those who have a weak thyroid have weak adrenals also. If so that "could" explain why you crave them. I noticed the non-raw ones would give me allergic reactions, but the raw organic ones I get from a raw site don't.
There could be some chemicals in ones you buy them maybe?
07-15-2006, 06:29 AM
RP could the olives have been cured in brine and/or lye?
07-15-2006, 11:38 AM
You know, I just don't know what they are cured in,it says sea salt and olives as the only ingredients.
they are in a big black plastic tub, NOT CANNED, but with a two part lid, one that twists, the under lid is flat, and they are in a brine type solution, they come from Greece, and are kalamata olives, supposed to be raw, no heat processing, no chemicals, but they are supposed to have sea salt in the brine,
whatever the case, when I eat one, I eat about 10, and the more I eat, the more I want, I don't add salt to anything, and so I used to think it was a salt thing, that I was craving, so I started making pickels and things, but all I want is these olives, and the next day, I am all sniffely, like I had dairy.
so, I just decided to not eat them for a trial run and see if it makes any difference.
now I was sniffly last night, and I had no olives, so I'll keep journaling what I am eating, and see.
I DID used to have terrible runny nose, itchy eyes and ears ALL the time, used to take over the counter sudafed, etc, so maybe it is a detox, but I'll just see.
so far, I've been able to not eat any olives, I waited to stop eating them, when the barrel was empty, and I haven't ordered any more, so we'll see.
I FINALLY gave up canned olives a few months ago, that was hard, as I was eating them on my raw salads with tons of tomatoes and mushrooms, and bottled salad dressing, now I just don't eat salads, so no temptation on the canned olives, or bottled salad dressing,
so, we'll see what happens.
07-15-2006, 06:06 PM
Well good for you RP. Nipping that addiction in the butt.
I came back on here, because I was searching for that Ceasar Dressing recipe in Alissa's book, and I noticed on pg 312 that it say's that olives cleanse the liver and gallbladder creating secreation of bile. Helps lower LDL bad cholesterol.
I was curious about it, because I was craving olives like crazy for awhile, not much anymore.
I know what you feel about that binging thing, it isn't fun.
07-15-2006, 07:09 PM
I'm confused about mail ordering raw food.
If our goal is raw, natural, alive and fresh how are these foods so easily mass packaged and shipped, while maintaining these qualities.
07-16-2006, 11:11 AM
I mainly mail order Gogi Berries, Cashew nuts and olives. I would not be able to have these things otherwise. It is surely better to get them this way than not to get them at all.
The mail order business for raw food is probably not that big so they are not exactly mass produced yet.
07-16-2006, 12:13 PM
I guess what I should have asked was what about preservative.
I know nuts will keep
but are foods like berries and olives dehydrated and then vacuum packed or something?
07-16-2006, 03:47 PM
you may wish to start a new thread with that question as your title, as you won't get many responses with that in my No olives thread, as people will onl y come to this thread to post about olives.
but my answer is I don't mail order much, I ordered the olives from the deli, so I could get a big discount, they are like pickles, simply placed into a salt water solution to preserve them, much like they have been done for thousands of years. no heat, no chemicals,
I have simply chosen not to eat them anymore FOR ME.
07-16-2006, 03:50 PM
I do know that Alissa sells some excellent olvies, I have not tasted them yet, but I hear they are divine. when I decide to buy some more olives, I may give those a shot, I was just eating so many, and we have a huge gourmet imported section in our stores in our baby tiny town, that I started buying them by the vat, because I used to eat so many.
Our town is a very tiny town, but it is huge in a way--- as we get thousands of people who come to hear Ramtha speak very often, so we end up with about 2,000 people who live here, and yet, we can have easily upwards of 20,000 on any given day if there is an event there. so the stores. try to have lots of gourmet and exotic things from other countries, since so many of the people who come, are from other contries.
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