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Dimond
06-30-2006, 09:35 PM
He's on a raw food diet and taking herbal supplements.

http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=105062&ran=36452
http://home.hamptonroads.com/stories/story.cfm?story=105850&ran=58841
http://www.anabaptistethics.org/article.php?id=5068

sport
07-01-2006, 08:02 AM
It would be nice to get an address for him and we could all send him a get well card.
If anybody has any leads they should post them here.

Dimond
07-01-2006, 08:51 AM
There's a couple sites taking donations and I came across his website:
http://www.abrahamsjourney.com/contact_info.html

Raw Jewelrylady
07-01-2006, 09:06 AM
I saw this young man & his father on TV while channel surfing. He is extremely intelligent. I was so upset to hear about all the court battles they have to go through-while he is battling cancer.

Thanks for the links.

Lana

Arky
07-01-2006, 08:32 PM
Anyone wanting to read about the corruption
(including several alleged assassinations) in suppressing alternative cancer treatments would do well to read Richard Anderson's 'Cleanse and Purify Thyself' - book 1.5 or book 2 (not book 1, although this is an excellent read on the subject of colon health, which I also recommend wholeheartedly for that specific topic). Books 1.5 and 2 are actually one and the same book, but refer to different published editions. I know this because I own books 1, 1.5 and 2.

The case which is the subject of this forum thread seems very clearly to me to be (beneath the public/media surface) the work of forces very much seperate and distinct from child protection. There is much more at stake here, for some rather sinister forces. What is so sad is that stress is one of the most damaging things a human body can endure, and one that it is already enduring the ravages of cancer needs stress like a hole in the head - assuming the young man in question is of sound mind and is adjudged capable of understanding the available treatment options and their ramifications, I would say there may possibly be a charge to answer from those fighting against the personal decision of the cancer sufferer himself. By fighting against his will, and threatening to remove him from his family, they are dramatically increasing his stress levels and consequently lowering his chances of a successful outcome to treatment, irrespective of the mode of treatment chosen.

There are forces and interests in this commercial world that would rather violate human rights than see the (immensely-profitable and compliant) status quo alter to the detriment of their financial or control interests.

I wish him and his family all the best. I hope they can find the strength to fight the oppressive action being brought against them.

J.

Dimond
07-01-2006, 08:44 PM
I let him know about this site for support and further knowledge.

denisedeland
07-01-2006, 08:47 PM
The drugs of chemo make you feel so awful.. I know there were days I just wanted it all to end.. I was so sick all the time and miserable.. But it worked out for me..

Denise

Tirza
07-02-2006, 03:34 PM
I know that some of us are dealing with this cancer issue and are here learning to be raw foodists because of it. We also want alternative ways to help ourselves. When I asked my medical people what I could do to help myself after my surgery in order to decrease the chances of recurrance, they just shrugged (literally) and mumbled something like - "lose weight". That's all. No dietary advice, other than fewer calories. Nothing. I was appalled. (And they want us to put the well-being of our bodies in their hands!) So I too struck out on my own. For someone who only has their options of "cut, poison or burn", it is easy to see why anyone would be inspired to go hunting for alternatives.
I haven't been advised to take chemo or radiation yet. I don't know what I will do if it comes to that. I feel that I have been so brainwashed by the system into trusting the word of the physicians that I might almost be too afraid NOT to take them if the "powers that be" do recommend it.
But then I only need to remember the "conventional medical" blunders of the past to bring myself back to logical thinking. This establishment is the same group of (I hope) well-meaning but arrogant men who had a fellow doctor kicked out of the hospital and denied privileges because he DARED to recommend that they wash their hands between patients and limit the spread of disease-and many others. This profession has a lot of black blots on their "book". Knowledge of the times is always insufficient, but still doctors want to have the last/only word in any treatment.
I would think the government would only be allowed to intervene in cases where the parents are willfully neglecting their child, or when there is a danger of spreading disease to others, or if there might be a case where someone would hold a doctor, hospital, medical system or government liable for failing to provide needed treatment. That way they would want to cover themselves legally.
In my own case I am doing all I can find in the way of diet, supplementation, teas, etc. to lessen my odds of recurrance. Or at least to boost my body's immunity and cell strength so that if I do go that conventional way, I might be able to bear it more easily.
The thing that scares me - I have heard that the medical establishment can and does even refuse to have as patients those who choose alternative was against their advice. And it is pretty much always against their advice. I have even been cautioned against eating foods that contain too much anti-oxidants for fear of aggravating cancer, causing cancer, or strengtheing the cancer cells so that chemo can't kill them if and when I might need chemo.

However, I feel that this can drift off topic.

I don't think anyone is going to come into our homes and dictate what we can eat if we have cancer. If we want to eat raw, we still have that privilege. The only problem is if you are in the hospital. We all know what is served in hospitals. The only bright light is that I see most of the larger hospitals have food courts now so a patient could get someone to go and get them fresh juices and salads. It would cost of course, while the hospital food comes with your stay, but it would be very worth it. And then we might even be lucky enough to have people who would be willing to bring in proper food. That would be super. If they can bring in pizza etc., they could surely bring in a raw meal. Maybe there should be caterers who can supply and ship raw meals when requested.

Of course, as in every self-directed plan, like alternative treatments, alternative foods and even homeschooling, it's gonna cost ya baby!!

I've got it! Why not have volunteer networks set up in the cities and make it known to fellow raw-fooders that we will set up schedules for people to take turns bringing or sending up meals to them during their stay? I know this must be possible, since my son had meals brought to him when he was in having a hernia repaired. As I have mentioned before on another thread, we are Orthodox Jews so there is the issue of kosher and Shabbat. The hospitals usually have an option for kosher food, but he was still brought food. My friend who recently had a kidney transplant was brought food for Shabbat by a Jewish organization that exists solely for the purpose of helping sick people. Meals brought to the hospital, meals set up for those at home, transportation, even places to stay (with meals) for people who are in town for treatments or are accompanying someone in the hospital. So any organization can take it upon themselves to help fellow members and families in times of trial. I think that is a great reason for people of a like interest to form a club or network of some kind so that it can be made known when someone needs help with raw food.
This is really drifting topics. Perhaps I should start a new thread with this idea.

sport
07-02-2006, 03:43 PM
I've got it! Why not have volunteer networks set up in the cities and make it known to fellow raw-fooders that we will set up schedules for people to take turns bringing or sending up meals to them during their stay? .
I have registered as a member of an emergency group for raw fooders. I think that it was set up after the huricane so that if it happens again that raw fooders will have to leave their homes they will have an organisation to help. Perhaps this project could be brought under the umbrella of this group.

Helen Of Tennessee
07-12-2006, 04:54 PM
I believe if you have a child, under age (18, I think) and the doctors find out your child has cancer, they can make you do the chemo. Just like if they have dibetes. I know Victoria Botenko had to work fast to keep her son off of insulin. She shares her story in her fight against forced insulin for her son, in her book(s). I think in the articles in the link of the first post explains what this family is going through to prevent anymore chemo. If they could make the choice, they wouldn't have to go to court. (If anyone else knows for sure that there is away around this, please share). This boy just did an 11 hour testimony, from what I heard on the radio today. He will be on the Sean Hannity & Alan Combs show tonight (Wednesday). I know Sean is siding with the boy and his parents. Maybe we'll get a little bit more insight as to where they are currently as this is a live interview.

rawpriestess
07-12-2006, 05:24 PM
I think he is very brave and smart.

And I think it very important that we send him loving thoughts, but please know that what you focus on, you bring to you, so if you are focusing on issues, and challenges, and what you DON"T WANT, you will bring that to you.

so please, focus on healing for him, and all beings, and not on the challenges with our government, or society, or drug companies, etc.

watch the Secret, and you will understand this, and only think of things the way you wish them to be, and they will be.

Tirza
07-12-2006, 05:55 PM
Raw Priestess,
Can you tell me what "the Secret" is? A movie? Where can I get it?

wyjoz
07-25-2006, 09:43 AM
Who Owns Your Child?
“Who really has control over my child?” “When is a child mature enough to participate in his own healthcare decisions?” “How did we get to the place where doctors, judges and social workers have more rights than parents over the healthcare decisions of a child?”.....
http://www.newswithviews.com/Tenpenny/sherri10.htm
by Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, DO

Framboise
07-25-2006, 10:12 AM
And I think it very important that we send him loving thoughts, but please know that what you focus on, you bring to you, so if you are focusing on issues, and challenges, and what you DON"T WANT, you will bring that to you.

so please, focus on healing for him, and all beings, and not on the challenges with our government, or society, or drug companies, etc.

watch the Secret, and you will understand this, and only think of things the way you wish them to be, and they will be.

What an absolutely wonderful piece of advice. How often do we forget that what blesses one blesses all, and that the Goodness and Strength that we draw on in times of trouble is also available to the person/organisation/administration that we are facing.

Thank you for your post. And I would also like to know what The Secret is. :)