Rosewater & Rum - Raw or not?

[Gwendolene]

I know Alissa does not chose to drink alchohol, but there is a family recipes for rum cake that I'd really like to try raw (although its probably to strong even in small doses for a raw cake...), another flavouring I used to use a lot is rosewater, can anyone tell me if these are raw? Thanks!

[prettybrowngrl]

I dont know about thw rosewater, but I can tell you, Rum is most certainly not raw , it is not possible. You can try a fruity flavoured wine for your recipe. Maybe that'll work, as wine can be made raw.

[juliebove]

Rosewater is probably not raw since you use boiling water to make it. It isn't cooked, but it is steeped like tea to get the oil out of the rose petals.

[Conscious Midwife]

Look for a balloon wine recipe, and se maybe plums to create your own raw wine.

Not sure what yu are going to do about he sugar though.

Maybe ou'll have to settle for organic wine or a rawcake without the rum

[rawpriestess]

neither rose water nor rum is raw.


I don't drink, but I used to love rum cake, and kaluah cake, OH BABY.

I Never even thought of making them raw, because they were a spong cake, and there really isn't a good wat to make a raw sponge cake, THAT I know of anyway,

but you CAN make kaluah, let's see how to make rum raw, well, normally you would boil down and distill the fruit or whatever it is that makes rum, and then you would allow it to ripen or ferment alot, I think.

I have friends who make raw wine and things.

I bet you could ferment what ever it is that makes rum, and I bet you could dehydrate it, to consentrate it, either before or after the fermentation process, and you could use dates, or raisins or agave' or apricots, to make it sweet, that would be easy, I bet it wouldn't be that hard at all.

why not try it, and let us know. personally I don't do fermented foods, although I love pickeld foods, and I love those, so to each his own, but I bet you could find a way to do it, if that is where your passion is.

good luck, and keep us posted.
as far as rose water, I think you could make it raw too, either dehydrate the rose petals or use rose essential oils which are cold pressed from Young Living it is a tad expensive, at $130 per ounce, I love it though.

[rawpriestess]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumhere are some cool facts about rum, what it is made from, where it was first made etc.

seems that it is made from fermented mollasas, which is a by product of sugar cane, so you could probably make it raw, I would think,

you just need to take any dark sugar, like dates, or even maple syrup (the raw kind) and allow it to ferment, I'm sure it is more complicated than this, but I'd try it, if you like the taste of rum cake.

[ambiguous]

Rum, like all liquors, involves a large amount of distillation, so I doubt that making a raw version would really work. However, you can buy rum flavoring, which, while not raw, will only require a tiny amount for flavor. There's one here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00021LZCY/002-2165389-7181636?v=glance&n=3370831
but I'm sure you can find others.

[Gwendolene]

Hi everyone

Thanks for the info, it was very helpful! RP, I don't have a dehydrator yet (still saving up), but when I do get one I will try your suggestion and let you all know how it went!!

[jaurequi]

Gwendolene

Try blending organic, food-grade rose petals in a blender with water; strain.

ETA - I just remembered what an aunt of a friend used to do. She would steep roses in water and put out in the sun and drink as a rose tea. You can bruise them for more flavor.
Other times for quick rose water, she'd pour hot water over them and steep till room temperature.

You might try bruising, steeping in tepid water to taste; or refrigerate, well covered.

Best,