How to be 100% raw with high protein and no fruit?

[paleogirl]

I've been high raw / 100% raw on and off for a couple of months. The longest stretch I was 100% raw was 2 weeks.

Anyway, after a week at 100% this last time, I became incredibly sensitive to fruit - stupidly bloated and horribly foggy headed/dizzy. I also started to need more sleep and became depressed, irritable... my skin was a mess and I gained 8 pounds. The foggy-headness was the worst part though. This is also exactly what happened the previous time I was 100%, I think because I increase my fruit intake.

Once again, led by my past experiences of when I felt GREAT, I cut out fruit and added back some cooked meat (mainly wild salmon). I instantly felt better. I've been eating everything raw except my daily meat/fish, and the weight is slowly normalising and the foggy-headedness has completely gone, skin clearing, stomach no longer bloated and I am happy/energetic again.

I tried a teaspoon of apple juice this AM and the foggy-headedness and bloating came instantly back! It took all day to wear off.

Although right now, at low-carb high raw I feel great, I have this nagging desire to be 100% raw again. I can just feel that it's right. However I really don't feel I can do that whilst omitting fruit. I also have a feeling that my depression and mood problems came from lack of protein. I had been eating almonds and sunflower seeds, but I'd previously been on a very high protein diet. I think some of us just need different ratios of food to others, and I truly feel great on high protein (and terrible on less). I eat a lot of good fats too - an avocado a day, coconut oil, flax seeds, almonds...

Any ideas on how to maintain high protein and fruit-free but be 100% raw? Anyone else had the reaction I had? The only solution I can think of is to add sashimi daily - not vegan but still raw. I appreciate this board is vegan, but I'm trying to make RAW work for my body, and I would be vegan if I felt I could. It's totally not about meat or cooked food cravings (the only thing I crave is raw fruit!!) As mentioned before, I'm 100% dairy free (casein intolerance), so I probably actually consume less animal products than most dairy-eating vegetarians!

Has anyone managed raw without fruit? What do you eat? I was only having 2-3 portions a day, but right now I can't even tolerate a bite of apple. I really feel like I have an all-round carbohydrate intolerance. :( :confused:

[margi]

It's not the fruit that is seemingly at fault. It's the fruit having been eaten and plaecd on top of the fats/proteins in the diet that creates the bloating feeling. Fruits and fats are not a good combination and can caused fermentation even if eaten a few hours apart.

As you may be aware, a lot of raw fooders simply don't buy the "protein myth" that we need tonnes of protein. A lot of protein in the diet, even raw protein, can contribute to nutrient deficiencies because of the acidity caused by digestion of proteins.

[Sheryl]

You might want to read some of Gabriel Cousins work... he starts many off on a low fruit higher fat diet, then gradually adds in more carb foods (the first three months are basically none though). Depending on what your diet has been it could just take time to adjust.

His recipe books are geared also and indicate which recipes are low sugar.

Cheers,
Sheryl

[rawnora]

Paleogirl,
There are strategies you can employ to become healthier that don't necessarily involve being vegan. There is a strong anti-meat bias in the raw food world which is a bit unreasonable in my view, since the same sentiments are not expressed about similarly inappropriate foods. Meat can be used as a transition food, and it's no less healthy than the essene breads or other grain-based foods that transitioning raw fooders seem to think they can eat freely. Meat is not necessary for protein, just as nuts aren't necessary for fat. We get all the protein and fat we need from fruit and tender greens, but other foods can be helpful as a bridge to get from where we were to where we're going. The fruit cravings you're experiencing mean you're not getting enough sugar in your diet. The human body has the easiest time making fuel out of fruit, because it doesn't require much conversion. Meat and other foods DO. You need to eat fruit, but your inability to digest it is indicative of a diseased state. Healing it will require patience and understanding. I can help if you're interested, but I'd need to know a lot more about you so I think a private coaching session would be the only way. Let me know if you're interested.

Best wishes,
Nora
www.RawSchool.com

[Sunshine9]

Sprouts, bee pollen, a hemp protein powder, and spirulina all are very high in protein. If your body is saying no fruit, then certainly follow that intuition. I'm not sure why you need a high protein diet though. Just to feel the gap of the fish?

[Mosaicsbymichelle]

Can anyone tell me what percentage of protein we "should" be eating in a day?

Thanks

[rawpriestess]

when you are a baby, and need to grow twice your body weight in one year, you need 2 to 4%, as an adult it is even less, isn't it curious that fruits have 2 to 4% protien.


Also, your body makes protein, NOT by eating protein, but by eating amino acids, which are in green leafy veggies. How cool is that?

[beelzebubble]

just a shot in the dark, but could you have a problem with candida?

[Revvell]

Paleogirl,
I can help if you're interested, but I'd need to know a lot more about you so I think a private coaching session would be the only way. Let me know if you're interested.

Best wishes,
Nora
www.RawSchool.com

Yet, since this is Alissa's site which she pays for, you might wish to contact her for private coaching sessions if in fact she still does these.

Revvell

[Dragggon]

I had a few opinions on ppl using this board for thier own gain too

but it seems many do and get away with it

but it is Alissas board and she should get compansated for this advertizing ie: (all counceling work-- teleconferancing ect ect ect)