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julesmoz
06-25-2006, 07:59 PM
I was wondering . . . is yogurt okay to eat on a 100% raw diet? I know that the milk is heated, but if it is then cultured with "live and active cultures," would the body respond to it as if it were raw?

I know many people are leary of dairy, but what if I used soy or rice milk to make the yogurt with?

Sharon in Colorado
06-25-2006, 08:03 PM
Ya, we don't discuss eating any animal foods but honey on here. Them's the rules.

However I can tell you that yogurt is NOT raw, it is cooked, just as soy products are made with cooked soybeans even if they were later cultured, fermented or 'cured' in some other way. That goes for Nama Shoyu.

I have tried to make seed yogurt before using sunflower seeds but it did not taste very good at all.

DavidZaneMason
06-25-2006, 08:04 PM
Hmmm:

-It is not fresh raw plant food (so I don't believe as vital), but there are no raw food police. So: if it helps you to reach your goals - I say more power to you!

-David Mason

Spectatrix
06-25-2006, 08:06 PM
It's not vegan, it's not raw, but it is "live", so you may find some benefit from it. The live cultures act as a probiotic.

julesmoz
06-25-2006, 08:14 PM
I'm not concerned with being super, super-stickler from a "vital energy" point of view. I've just heard that the benefits of being 100% raw are far greater than being, say, 95% raw. I'm wondering if it would undo my "100%-ness" if I ate yogurt. In other words, would soy or rice yogurt cause my body do the whole "immune system response/mucus forming" routine?

MaddMelon
06-25-2006, 08:17 PM
Not Nama Shoyu!!! Alissa sells it on her site. I'm confused. I just ate a ton of it today...it's great on fresh squash and zuchini.

Sharon in Colorado
06-25-2006, 08:17 PM
I think the only way to find out is to judge the way you feel with it and without it.

Sharon in Colorado
06-25-2006, 08:18 PM
Not Nama Shoyu!!! Alissa sells it on her site. I'm confused. I just ate a ton of it today...it's great on fresh squash and zuchini.


I had just posted this link before - Nama Shoyu is listed here. Many people use it as a transitional food.

http://www.living-foods.com/articles/rawornot.html

MaddMelon
06-25-2006, 08:25 PM
It says that it is heavily processed, but not necessarily cooked. *sigh* I was enjoying it so much too.lol I hadn't ever even liked soy sauce, but Nama Shoyu tastes very different and I got into it heavily today- thought it was healthy. Oh well, I'll just finish up this four ounce bottle.

I'm still a bit confused about it though.

julesmoz
06-25-2006, 08:29 PM
I'm with you, Amber. Was wondering about Nama Shoyu and miso, myself.

Sharon in Colorado
06-25-2006, 08:35 PM
They may not be particularly "bad" for you at this point in time but they just aren't raw or unprocessed. They are a processed food.

Many people use them in transition. For instance, I feel the need to eat heavier foods sometimes, but look forward to eating lighter in the future.

So whatever works for you. I find that sometimes when I push myself too fast it backfires, so it's one step at a time.

EmeraldGlow
06-25-2006, 11:25 PM
I'm not concerned with being super, super-stickler from a "vital energy" point of view. I've just heard that the benefits of being 100% raw are far greater than being, say, 95% raw. I'm wondering if it would undo my "100%-ness" if I ate yogurt. In other words, would soy or rice yogurt cause my body do the whole "immune system response/mucus forming" routine?

If you still ate rice yogurt or soy you would be 99% raw, not 100% raw. A big difference you can feel and in some cases see. I dont know about that mucus question though. I haven't had an experience with what your asking about. But, maybe someone else does?

You know what? If your just looking for a yogurt "sub" you can use a cashew yogurt somewhere on here...or some other kind of nut. I'll look for the recipe and post it here tomorrow so you can try it out if you want to.

Hope this helps! :)

Spectatrix
06-26-2006, 02:24 AM
I think the only way to find out is to judge the way you feel with it and without it.
I agree. These things vary from person to person.

rawpriestess
06-26-2006, 03:04 AM
Yogurt, is a cultured food, and if made with raw ingredients, can be raw, you don't NEED to heat it, as the culture, will turn it naturally, like raw cheeses.

I've made raw cashew yogurt, and I didn't care for it, but it was raw, and not dairy, so it is possible.

Nama shoyu, is processed but it is raw.

Nama means raw, uncooked, and shoyu, means soy, so Nama shoyu means raw soy, I believe that it is a byproduct of making miso, which is a fermented food, and not raw, but I do use it occasionally in recipes. ( maybe 1 cup a year) LOL