Lost a lot of weight: Experiencing animosity from women now! Anyone else???

[RedFizz]

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[rawfigure]

hmmm, too bad you had this experience, I cannot say my response is related to a weight loss because I have always been thin to average. I have always known we (women) have that darker side ! Sometimes we just happen to get in her way at the wrong time. So I would not think nessecarily weight related ? Maybe you are more sensitive to that emotion as you have lost 30 pds (great job btw !!) and it is on your mind as realative to the other womens reaction. So I think women have always been a little touchy if you catch them at the wrong time of the day..or month ! :rolleyes:

As far as the other man ha ! women are territorial for sure ! I experienced it first as a 14 yr old ish, when the neighbor's girlfriend (she was maybe 16-17) told me and my twin that all twins grew up to be overweight (she said "fat" but I hate to use that word ) and soon we might be thin now but it will not last long ! (that shaped my life long weight gain phobia and obsession to stay thin for life). So that was a long time ago, and I forgave her that comment. In fact I saw this women last year at a Funeral (she married my childhood friend's brother) and we talked and she commented how good I looked 30 years having passed. I imagine she does not even remember her comment that shaped my obsessive body image !

[RedFizz]

You're right about the road rage women. And yes, I admit I am a little sensitive right now: I just started my period after skipping it for two months b/c of the detox and starting raw. I have 3 months' worth of PMS sensitivity to get out all at once...LOL.

But I have noticed being treated differently by both women and men. It's like trying to learn a new culture. I suppose I am an idealist and try to treat everyone the way I would like to be treated. But not everyone abides by that. *sigh*

Now it's time to learn a brand new world.

[RedFizz]

You're right about the road rage woman. And yes, I admit I am a little sensitive right now: I just started my period after skipping it for two months b/c of the detox and starting raw. I have 3 months-worth of PMS sensitivity to get out all at once...LOL. Thank goodness I am not dating - ha!

But I have noticed being treated differently by both women and men. It's like trying to learn a new culture. I suppose I am an idealist and try to treat everyone the way I would like to be treated. But not everyone abides by that. *sigh* But I am also a realist.

Now it's time to learn a brand new world.

[Nenyath]

How incredibly strange! I really hope to avoid that! I'm loosing weight myself but wouldn't wish to end up with people reacting to me differently just because of that! Í really hope you will not have any more of those experiences! But congrats on the weight loss! :)

Fly forever free,,

[ShelShel]

Wow. I was just having this same issue yesterday. :( I have lost 22 pounds and although I am far from my ideal...I'm smaller than before.
Yesterday, I met my sis-in-law for lunch at our fav restuarant. I used to get muffins...and soups...and sandwiches...desserts. It is a really yummy place with a lovely bakery attached. Two sisters own it...one is as thin as a rail (she cooks) and the other is much heavier (she takes orders), but both are so sweet...in fact the one who takes the orders has always been the nicer of the two. So, 4 months ago, when I went raw...I started eating only salads. As I learned more about raw...I started having them leave things off of them...because I had learned they weren't raw.
The heavier sis seemed to be fine with this...in the beginning. But everytime I would come in she would make the same comment, "Just a salad??? How about some pie?"....or "Well, aren't you wasting away!!!" And I would like to say she was saying it in a nice way, trying to get me to buy more food...but she wasn't. I stopped going in so much because she was making me uncomfortable.
So...yesterday, when I went in...I was going to order two garden salads because I know they are greens, tomato, and cucumber. (but they are small) I wanted something a little larger...so I asked what came on their house salad. Her reply was, "It's the same as the garden...only larger!" So, I ordered this. Well, when it came out...it had cheese and croutons. :eek: I almost cried as I pulled all the yummy veggies off the top to make sure I removed all the cheese. My sis-in-law said, "Just take it back." I told her, "No, the woman at the counter doesn't like me anymore...I'm not making a stink...I just know for next time."
My sis thought I was nuts. Well, the woman came around the bar to see how we liked our lunch. She saw all the veggies and cheese and croutons on the napkin next to my plate. She asked,"Can't you eat veggies anymore? or are you strickly eating lettuce?" I smiled and my sis answered, "She can't have the cheese and didn't know it came on the salad." Her reply was, "You know, a little cheese never hurt anyone." and she walked away. :( I was really sad. This is a place that I tell everyone about. I love their food...especially their salads. And now I feel like I don't want to go back.

I find that I am more nervous around other women when I am thinner. I think they instinctively can feel that and they treat me differently because I'm not as confident. So, I know I must be projecting something a bit more meek than I used to. But people look at me so much more now that I am self conscious about it. That is something I will have to deal with because raw is here to stay and I won't have all those pounds to hide behind.

Anywho...Congrats on your weight loss! You go girl! :D Keep your chin up. I have a feeling when we have these thinner bodies for long enough...we won't be so self-conscious about these things. The women in our lives will get use to this as the way we are and become more comfortable with us. It's just new...and different. But it's a good different. ;)

[RedFizz]

Thanks shelshel and nenyath. Actually, my mom and I were talking about last night, and she saw a follow-up study on one of the documentary channels about people who had gastric by-pass surgery and have lost ~100lbs.

Their question was: "Do people treat you differently?"

And you know what the crazy thing is? 90% of the people they interviewed said that they lost most of their friends! They said a lot of it is either jealousy (like the woman at the bakery), or the person who had the surgery was being used as "the ugly friend". One lady said, "You really find out who your real friends are when you lose weight."

I agree, Shelshel, the weight is staying off. No one is going to intimidate us into feel inferior. I think Elanor Rosevelt said, "No one can make you feel inferior without your permission."

I know for a fact that being overweight was a security blanket for me so no one would bother me. Once I admited that after losing 5lbs, and I made the decision that it was time to grow up and face the world/reality/and screaming blonds in BMWs :p , the weight just started falling right off.

By the way, great job on your weight loss, Shelshel!

[ShelShel]

Thank you RedFizz! :) And you will definitely know who your true friends are.
My sis-in-law and I became friends when she was 9 and I was 11. Years later she married my only brother. :D Long story short...she has always been the thinner prettier one. Always. Blonde hair~blue eyes...thin like I could only dream...and boobs out to... well you get the idea! :D LOL I was short, overweight ...with brown eyes and hair. As we aged and have had children...we both gained and lost our shapes. Now I am getting mine back and for the very first time in 22 years...I'm thinner...and she has never once treated me any differently. She might comment on how pretty a new outfit is...but she did that before the weight loss. She is awesome! Which goes to show...true friends are with you always. And wouldn't you rather know the few you have a true than have lots of fly-by-night ones! ;)

[Vegan Diva]

I have always been thin & muscular so I have not experienced that. I have not experienced hostility often but the times when it has occured has been because of my size, my eating lifestyle, losing weight quickly after the birth of my child...

I’m nice to everyone. I feel that what you give out comes back to you. If a person continuously acts hostile towards me I will avoid them. I dislike negativity.

I’m sorry you are going through this. Congratulations on your weight loss! Stay Strong!

[Revvell]

I'm not buying into this. There's a thread here about what fears you have about being raw ~ you might look at what fears you have about being h/w proportionate. IF there is anything inside you that is fearful of these things happening, you will attract that. I personally know at least 2 people who have had their stomachs stapled and have and are losing incredible amounts of weight and they are not receiving that kind of attention. In fact, it's just the opposite. I know others who are eliminating weight in other ways as well.

There will alway be people who are jealous or fearful of people who are not as they are; who are living their lives in splendid freedom whether it be h/w propotionate; someone who has more money than they, etc. but to think that some insane "blond in a white BMW convertible" is upset w/ you because you lost weight is absurd.

Suggestion: write down your fears; get them out, examine them and continuing being the loving, lithe goddess you know yourself to be. We attract what we put out. Ask me how I know. :)

Revvell

[Denise Nicole]

Maybe you are projecting insecurity?

I had problems with women being angry or petty towards me in my early twenties, but not since and get along well with everyone (maybe I am just more mellow myself).

However, men and women in general treat me much different. Women (especially younger women) generally don't talk to me at all. I find many women to be more emotional and less secure so more likely to strike out. Most men on the other hand are pretty "face value" types of people. They open doors for me give me discounts at the register, install my winsheild wipers when I only buy blades (this is most recent), throw in free items, and are all around really, really nice to me. ***note this is my own personal experience and is not a broad statement about all men and all women.

I have both female and male friends and choose to surround myself with positive, caring people (for instance I could see myself as friends with many on this board) and I recipricate in kind. :)

Congratualtions on your accomplishment!

[Sunshine9]

I think the place to look is inside, at what is going on in you that those women might be reflecting back.

I can say I can also relate.. I never had drastic weight loss, but growing up and in high school I was 5'10" and quite thin so other people were often making comments about my figure, that looking back were quite innappropriate. Also I don't make assumptions. You don't know exactly what sparked the woman in the car and the other girl.

Congratulations to you on your weight loss and success so far with raw food!! YAY!

[dreamrawalwz]

First off, congratulations on the weight loss.

Second it's called jealousy! If they're insecure and see you changing for the better then they'll want that. Jealousy can be projected as hostility and anger towards you. With food they may offer the very things that will cause you to gain weight and call off the path, so to speak. Women will most likely react that way, while men will most likely become more attracted to you. Women are competitive with other women, especially when it comes to looks.

[Faithfullyfit]

Several have mentioned the idea that you are possibly presenting some insecurity with raw that is being picked up on...hmmmmm? MAYBE it is that your confidence, energy, glow and vitality are shining through and this is very intimidating to some people (Male or Female) who long for this feeling and it it causes them to get angry with themselves when confronted with it?! I know my confidence has soared since going RAW- My weight has not changed much...I ate pretty well and stayed fit before. But, now I walk taller, smile more and see clearer (Well you all know that amazing RAW feeling-haha!!!!)

But, especially women can be so ugly when they are insecure of something in their lives. If something threatens their self image they get sooooo "catty"! This past year I accepted an invitation to compete in a local Mrs.Pageant system....I really had to step out of my comfort zone and did this primarily to get over my fear of public speaking and promote my platform of "Prevention of Childhood Obesity". I tried to make it an enjoyable experience...but the nicer I was- the worse some of these women behaved towards me... I felt very isolated and just focused on my Faith, Family and Friends that were there to support me- I am very sensitive and the "Looks" that were given at certain occasions were enough to have me in tears! I am 40 years old.....you would think that I was older and wise enough to let it roll off my back! Well....the judges saw the Raw induced Glow of energy, confidence and vitality and......I won and got the physical fitness award( competing with 24-30 year olds!!!!) I will be competing as Mrs.Houston......for the Title of Mrs.Texas on 6/23-6/25!

This upcoming pageant, I will be bringing all of the other ladies Raw goodie baskets- with some treats from the online raw bakery......I will bring my LOLF book and maybe even do a small presentation on "Live Foods" during our orientation!!! I am hoping they realize that I want them to be as healthy and happy as I am and that we are all facing the same struggles ;) So maybe I will take the Mrs.Texas title at 40!!!!! :eek: and go on to the national system and somehow use "Raw foods" In my platform- would'nt that be a hoot? Just keep with your own beautiful raw journey and keep reminding yourself that they are simply unhappy with themselves and are eating sad and dead foods that are so taxing on both their physical and mental health. Eventually enough people will see that there is something different about you :D But in such a way that they will want to know how they can feel and look the same way!
Have a BEAUTIFUL raw day!
Faithfully FIT

p.s. the lady who was so irate in the parking lot had probally just consumed antifreeze, bleached chemical processed flour and red dye #4 in her morning "fat free" starbucks blueberry bagel-YIKES would'nt you be a spewing, angry ball of yuck?
maybe the lady at the bakery had a conversation later that day with her sister about..."you know that lady looks so amazing and has lost weight and her diet is sooooo....simple and natural?????- she also did not get angry about her salad- and DEMAND that we make it right!!!"

[RawNut]

This thread got me thinking about this poem:

http://marilee.us/desiderata.html

RawNut

[ShelShel]

Wow, that was beautiful! Thank you for sharing that poem. :rolleyes:

[Faithfullyfit]

That is TRULY beautiful....thank you for sharing that and filling our hearts with peace.

Faithfully FIT

[Lay-Lay]

When I feel good about myself I can see how it effects people around me, but in a positive way. My husband has lost 14 pounds and we are soooo close. My mom is thinking of going raw and seems so proud in my accomplishments. My dad seems calmer. People at work although may be in a bad mood, when I walk in smiling they smile back. I feel like I am making a difference in people around me and as much as I love raw, its not all about raw, its about me and who I am, and how I treat people, and my faith and beliefs. People react from this and raw helps me to better reflect the person I am because I feel better.

[Dimond]

I've always been thin & I do find as an adult that sometimes women that aren't, tend to have problems with it. Especially since I've become even thinner on raw, I hear "You're too thin" all the time. Though I'm not even close to be too thin.

A couple months ago I received the best compliment from someone who is overweight. She said I wasn't too thin, but just right. I was quite surprised to hear that. She must be very comfortable with herself to be able to give a compliment like that. Basically anyone who is negative just isn't happy with themselves and will take it out on others. It's not even about us, it's all about them. I choose to find beauty in everyone regardless of their appearance. And I can appreciate beauty in others even when I might be having a bad hair day or don't look perfect for whatever reason.

[juliebove]

I don't get this at all. I've been thin to the point of being severely underweight. I've been normal weight. I've been overweight. When I was too underweight, people would sometimes make nasty comments to me about being so thin, but mostly they'd say things that they thought were behind my back. Often I'd hear. Mostly they'd seem to think I had anorexia or something. It hurt to hear that because I really wanted to gain weight and simply could not. Now I merely have to look at food and I gain!

But other than the above remarks, nobody has ever treated me differently because of my weight. I've also heard people say that they were treated badly or ignored because they were very overweight. I think maybe it's their mindset or something.

I lost about 30 pounds a few years back. I was working out like mad and I looked really good. People didn't treat me any differently then than they did when I was larger, softer and more flabby. I was single then and I attracted just as many men either way. I had no problems with women treating me badly.

Now one difference I did notice is when I got my glasses. For some reason, it seems like people treat me as though I am more intelligent when I wear the glasses than when I don't. But perhaps when I'm not wearing them I'm squinting to see and that might make me look stupid. Hehe. I dunno.

[rawpriestess]

WOW, congratulations on your weight loss

I have lost 45 pounds so far and no one has treated me differently.

All of my friends say I look younger and more vibrant and ask what I am doing, but they all treat me with the usual love and kindness they always have.

Of course, they are my friends, not total strangers, but basically, I have no challenges with strangers either.

[sport]

I'm not buying into this.
I am with you on this one. The lady in the white car (my friend says that ladies in white cars are usually Kept Women) did not know that you had changed so can not have reacted to the change.
You are feeling different and it will take you a while to adjust to the changes and come to terms with how you feel about yourself but time will take care of that and I hope that you will feel wonderfull.
I wish you continued success with your weight

[rawpriestess]

WOW, look at all of the assumptions in this statement.

first, because she was a blond in a white convertable that you though "Go figure" go figure what? I'd like to know. and why her being a blond or redhead or brunette in a white or black or red convertable, car, bus would make any difference, is it because she was at a mall? and what does that mean to you?

I would think you may have some beliefs about
1. women
2. convertables
3. mall shoppers

and look into those beliefs,

we manifest in our lives what we focus on, so what are you so angry about?

for what purpose do you think you need to manifest people being unkind to you?

And what is this statment that "EVERYONE" is so Stressed and in such a hurry, that isn't true, I'm not stressed and in a hurry, I am often at a store, and someone will tell me that they will get to me in just a second, and I always say, "Oh, don't worry, I have ALL the time in the world. take your time." they will then relax and feel so much better.

And everyone just thinks of themselves? why would you project that?
and it was obvios she was used to getting her way, either by trying to intimidate women, or by batting her eyelashes at men, my GOSH, what a statement, and a judgement.

maybe she just found out she was dying of a terrible disease, and she sold everything she owned to buy this car, for her last few months on Earth, and she was going to pick up someone at the airport, maybe someone very dear to her, not necessarily returning shoes (as if that was a bad thing) and maybe, just maybe she thought you were someone else that she knew, who had treated her badly.

you never know what someone is going through until you are them.

So, be kind, be loving, be gentle and allow all of the world to be the same,

if you choose to focus on challenging women who for some weird reason attack you personally, well, then you will manifest that, on the other hand, this is a good thing to know, because now you can focus on the things that you wish to manifest in your life,

like wonderfully exciting and fun experiences, great parking places at the mall or anywhere that you choose to shop, good friends who like you for who you are, not what you look like. etc.

make up your own list to manifest, and do your best to release those challenging judgements, that you have had in the past about blonds, convertables, mall shoppers, and women specifically if they are pretty!! YIKES!!!
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She was a blond in a white BMW convertible. No offense to anyone who has a BMW, and I am a blond, but the first thought that went through my mind was, "Go figure." We figure she probably just found out she couldn't return the shoes she bought two years ago.

I wish the world isn't what it is. Everyone's so stressed. Everyone's in such a hurry. Everyone just thinks of themselves. I guess I could have handled it better, but it was obvious she was used to getting her way either by trying to intimidate women or batting her eyelashes at men.
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[wizz4ve]

I recently completed a detox and have been raw for one wonderful month. I continue to lose weight thanks to the raw food lifestyle, and I am up to 29.4lbs weight loss. Unfortunately, I am discovering the dark side of women.

I had some lady almost back out into my car yesterday in the mall parking lot, and then get out of her car screaming, "I am going to slap you b***h." I kept trying to get her to go ahead and move. She had plenty of room. I had no other place to go unless I backed out into traffic.

She was a blond in a white BMW convertible. No offense to anyone who has a BMW, and I am a blond, but the first thought that went through my mind was, "Go figure." We figure she probably just found out she couldn't return the shoes she bought two years ago.

I wish the world isn't what it is. Everyone's so stressed. Everyone's in such a hurry. Everyone just thinks of themselves. I guess I could have handled it better, but it was obvious she was used to getting her way either by trying to intimidate women or batting her eyelashes at men.

The point:
I am slowly becoming "not the ugly one" as I continue to lose weight. And the more I lose, the more the stereotypical "pretty" women are hostile towards me. Granted, the woman in the car was obviously ticked off anyway, but just last weekend a girl who was normally decent (but is continually gaining weight) yelled at me and trie to put me down/intimidate me in front of a large group of people. I stood my ground and she ended up looking like an idiot, but this is getting stressful!!!

I have nothing to prove. Just let me get to where I need to go, do what I need to do, and have a nice day. You're beautiful, too. I wish you the best. And most of all (and what I am finding is the #1 problem) you can have him!, who I am not even hitting on, by the way. He's not worth it.

This aren't the only examples. The funny thing is that I am behaving the same way I did when I weighed 29.4lbs more, and I never had a problem when I weighed more.

Thanks for letting me vent. Has anyone else who has lost a lot of weight with raw experienced this?


What type of detox did you do?

[ljannise]

This thread really calls out to me....

For so many years, I just wanted to be a normal person & fit in or blend. I was treated like an overweight outcast for so long. It really makes me mad nowadays to see so many overweight as I was & it's considered a little over an "average".

It's like I've traded one thing for another. Now, I get dirty looks from wives who watch their husbands like hawks, they give me awful looks while their husbands do the opposite, I used to get whispered about because of my size from small groups of other girls- now I get whispered about by small groups of girls that reach out to fix their hair or adjust their clothing, etc.

I just dont know. I'm getting sick of ppl altogether. I focus on my husband, my parents & myself. These days I'm so sad at what ppl are turning into.

[swingbolder]

So maybe I will take the Mrs.Texas title at 40!!!!! and go on to the national system and somehow use "Raw foods" In my platform- would'nt that be a hoot?

That would be fantastic!!! Congratulations on your success! I'm not a fan of pageants in general, but what you're doing sounds great and there's nothing like true raw beauty (as opposed to the plastic-type beauty that usually gets celebrated).

[RedFizz]

MAYBE it is that your confidence, energy, glow and vitality are shining through and this is very intimidating to some people (Male or Female) who long for this feeling and it it causes them to get angry with themselves when confronted with it?! I know my confidence has soared since going RAW- My weight has not changed much...I ate pretty well and stayed fit before. But, now I walk taller, smile more and see clearer (Well you all know that amazing RAW feeling-haha!!!!)



You said this so well! By the way, congrats on winning!!!

Thank you for everyone's input! Now that my adrenal glands have stopped overflowing with adrenaline (it's amazing what happens to your mind, body and soul when you are being physically threatened), and with all of the constructive input, I really think I am fully grasping what is going on:

Yes, the way I look can make others jealous, but do you know what I am beginning to think will make them REALLY jealous? Happiness and confidence, just as Faithfullyfit pointed out. Ever since eating raw, my head is clearer, I am more relaxed, sure of myself, happy, free, confident, and it's really starting to show through! Guys at work said I was glowing the other day...then asked if I was pregnant :rolleyes: . My friend who introduced me to raw also said my skin is starting to glow and that my eyes sparkle. Women are asking me what I have done and want to know more about the raw lifestyle :) . Then throw the weight loss on top of it; I feel like a double threat :p .

Thank you again for your constructive replies. I appreciate the input, both from those who agree and disagree, because it allowed me to consider different points of views and make an educated decision for myself.

I am don't feel sorry for someone who feels that they have to try to intimidate another just to feel good about themselves, just sad for them.

By the way, ljannise, I am glad the thread could help. You are soooo beautiful in your picture. I have been where you are, and I totally empathize. It gets better!

wizz4ve, I did a 40-day juice fast, which is outline in Dr. Don Colbert's book, Toxic Relief . Be forwarned that it is Christian-centric if you are offended by that. I personally respect his (not-so-mainstream) medical training and the way he presents the information. The fast changed my life. I no longer see food and think, "Mmmmm....comfort." I now see it and think, "MMmmmm...sustinance."

Again, thank you to everyone for your input. We're all in this together!

Raw food has changed my life!

[Faithfullyfit]

Red Fizz,

Thanks for the congrats!

I do understand where you are coming from. Also, about the adrenaline rush in that situation!!!! And like you and others on this thread I am a very kind and compassionate person and cannot fathom why some people act so angry and awful to others. I could not sleep at night if I lived my life that way. But there are many who can? Stay focused on loving yourself and others and maybe it will change a few hearts along the way! Have an amazing day!

Take Care,
Faithfully FIT :D

[rawfigure]

reading this thread reminds me of a Commercial that went something like this "Don't hate me because I am beautiful" ...lol...I cannot remember the actress who said that, she would not like to hear that ! :p

[Revvell]

reading this thread reminds me of a Commercial that went something like this "Don't hate me because I am beautiful"

I think it was Prince. :p

Revvell

[Faithfullyfit]

That would be fantastic!!! Congratulations on your success! I'm not a fan of pageants in general, but what you're doing sounds great and there's nothing like true raw beauty (as opposed to the plastic-type beauty that usually gets celebrated).

I grew up watching the "Miss" Pageants for entertainment-It is a big thing in the south- ;) but would NEVER have entered one. But, when I received the invitation to compete in a "MRS"...I said NO- NEVER - absolutely NOT! .......and then somehow my family talked me into it :rolleyes: with statements like- Make the memories, while you can....step out of your comfort zone....speak from your heart........do something good for your community....pursue a goal! So, I did and learned alot about myself and gained confidence in my ability to speak in front of crowds - on a stage no less....It is really like playing "dress up" as an adult!!!!
I just wish the women would all have the same goal as me.....and not take it all so serious!!! Oh well....women will be women! I have enjoyed this experience and will look back and be proud that I did it!

There is another Mrs.Delegate on this board....she was also on "Biggest Loser" last year.....Ryan are you out there? I think she is competing at Mrs.United States this month!

Have a GREAT evening!

Faithfully FIt

[bootzey]

I agree. When your heavier, people feel safer around you. 3 years ago I lost 50 pounds and was incredibly surprised to find people hostile to me in church of all places!!!! Maybe it's because I felt a sense of accomplishment or maybe because my confidence soared. I find, insecure people don't like people who like themselves.

[RawNut]

reading this thread reminds me of a Commercial that went something like this "Don't hate me because I am beautiful" ...lol...I cannot remember the actress who said that, she would not like to hear that ! :p

Kelly LeBrock, in a Pantene commerical...Prince probably said that too though.

[Revvell]

Kelly LeBrock, in a Pantene commerical...Prince probably said that too though.


I was just kidding as I don't watch t.v. so wouldn't know who the actress was/is. Actually, at the end of a concert Prince said something like: Don't hate me because I'm marvelous. Not sure of the final word though.

Revvell

[ljannise]

"Dont hate me because I'm RAW"


Someone really brave & vain could say "Dont hate me because I'm beautiful & RAW"

[shakti17]

yes, i have experienced that my whole life. i am naturally thin---and in our culture we think that is so great, but honestly i only wanted to gain a bit of weight and menstruate regularly!!!

good news is, on 30 days raw i have gained weight. i always gain weight when i am consistently raw. it is good.

but as for the jealousy thing, i have had that since high school when a girl went around telling everyone i had "chicken legs"... an ugly way to say i was thin (and actually had nice legs). i hated my legs after that for years!

it makes me sad to think about it -- i still experience that in my work place, but i have found that the "kill them with kindness" thing actually works. i am just nice to these people and it goes away. i have not experienced it in a while.

ps i have been on the other side of it too -- when i see a thin or beautiful woman. i am not mean ever, but sometimes i do feel jealousy. that is our own stuff to work on, as others here have said.

[sport]

i have been on the other side of it too -- when i see a thin or beautiful woman. i am not mean ever, but sometimes i do feel jealousy. that is our own stuff to work on, as others here have said.
I have never been jealous of anyone because I realised that you can not judge anyone's life by looking at the outside. I am sure that lots of women were jealous of Marilin Munroe but we later found out what a misserable life she had. I would prefer to be ugly and happy.
When I see someone that has some aspect of their life or body that is obviously better than mine I ask myself. Would I swap my entire package for theirs and the answer is always no.