View Full Version : If you stopped using salt, what health things improved?
greeninlosangeles
06-04-2006, 09:06 PM
I jsut stopped using several days ago, and my skin is getting smoother even on my upper arms, and my pee feels like silk(sorry for the details). But I also stopped using oil(too concentrated fat) and reduced other fatty things which improved my energy levels a lot. I also avoid using too much dehydrated and frozen stuff.So my changes might be atribbuted to all those things.
So I wonder if any of you stopped using salt and if yes, what kind of changes you noticed?
I am raw for 6 months and lately felt very weak, so I started looking for the solution. No I feel much better.
hi green,
I found without sea salt or any spices with traces of salt I felt lighter, easy digestion, more energy, less bags under my eyes, and believe it or not less irritable.
Funny you should mention dehydrated foods. I just started added some and am gonna stop. I feel yucky with overeating on some falafel balls tonight and know it is because i am used to more watery foods.
Keep up your great progress:)
JMD
Lay-Lay
06-04-2006, 10:57 PM
congrats on your improvements! I have been high raw for sometime, but never even really thought about giving my salt up....I guess my body will let me know when it don't want it anymore....in the meantime I'm going to enjoy. Again, congrats, way to go!
Cinnamon
06-04-2006, 11:07 PM
I eat no added salt with the exception of the occasional dash of Nama in a recipe. I have no more uncomfortable bloating, almost no PMS issues (thank you!), lower than ever before blood pressure, and the biggest change for me is no more migraine headaches. After many years of them I found that salt is a trigger so for over 1 1/2 years now I have been migraine free. Still can't believe it sometimes to not have to suffer with them anymore! This is one "salt free" gal for life!
greeninlosangeles
06-06-2006, 11:08 AM
Wow, just several experiences, but results are wonderful! Thank you all so much. That inspires me to keep going. Although it was much easier than I thought- just one day my salads did not taste good to me, and now I love them tasting like real, more sbtle tastes pf the veggies in them. And witjhout oil dressing- just avocado and lemon juice!
jaurequi
06-06-2006, 11:34 AM
Salt is an appetite stimulant. It can be very difficult to cut it out, but even just cutting back, little by little, is fantastic.
I have found it true that you get used to little or no salt, and it's not a problem.
Glad you're experiencing the positive results.
Best,
cornvalley
06-06-2006, 12:01 PM
I hate the taste of salt. I also hate hot burning spices. They're really taste destroyers, as all the subtle combinations that nature has intended for us are gone, as well as interfering with getting our cues as to when we've 'had enough'. Whole industries are based on the salt and hot spice habit and once you are hooked on the excitment of of it, it's very difficult to ever find your way back.
Even many of the most pure raw fooders need the stimulation of salt and spice to keep the 'kick' in there. Fine, whatever.... it's certainly not gonna kill you or cause organ failure :D
But the subtleness of flavors are gone as the skin on your sensory organs adapt to the increased intensity. 'Hunger is the best spice'
Lay-Lay
06-06-2006, 12:10 PM
Corn valley, glad to know I have another addiction, LOL. Well, its one addiction at this point I have no desire to kick. I love my spices and I do not find that it increases my hunger whatsoever. I usually only eat one or two small meals a day. I put garlic in almost everything and theres always some cayenne and jalepenos and a dash of sea salt tucked in there. Yummy, yummy, yummy!
RowanC
06-06-2006, 12:13 PM
There is another side to the issue of salt intake.
If you are plagued with adrenal fatigue, you may actually NEED salt.
Thanks to Melissa who mailed me a very good book on this syndrome.
One symptom is the craving of salt.
Salt can actually help these people and they do not need to limit intake.
Of course, I'd use celtic sea salt.
But I have adrenal fatigue and my blood pressure is VERY low... around 90/60 constantly. Salt helps keep it up.
I think people need to investigage their own issues and bodies before jumping on band-wagons of "don't do this" and "be sure to do that" when it comes to diet.
Anyway.. that's my 2 cents' worth :D
RowanC
06-06-2006, 12:14 PM
And by the way, if anyone is interested in reading this book, I'll happily mail it to you. I did not pay her for it and I will not charge you for it if you promise to continue to "pass it forward."
Svadhyaya
06-06-2006, 12:16 PM
Rowan,
You have such wise advice for everyone.
Just going off topic to say that I appreciate your posts!
God Bless You,
Svad
cornvalley
06-06-2006, 12:32 PM
I love my spices and I do not find that it increases my hunger whatsoever.
Hi iloverawfoods, you are not prone to overeating and I'm not referring to increases in hunger. Many do not take appetite cues from their instinctual capacities, never experience it fully and never intend to. Eating and enjoyment of eating are experienced with the same learned behaviors from chidhood and family. Sometimes it's just comforting and sometimes a real impediment to continued health improvement.
All the best.
cornvalley
06-06-2006, 12:43 PM
There is another side to the issue of salt intake.
If you are plagued with adrenal fatigue, you may actually NEED salt.
Thanks to Melissa who mailed me a very good book on this syndrome.
One symptom is the craving of salt.
Salt can actually help these people and they do not need to limit intake.
Of course, I'd use celtic sea salt.
But I have adrenal fatigue and my blood pressure is VERY low... around 90/60 constantly. Salt helps keep it up.
I think people need to investigage their own issues and bodies before jumping on band-wagons of "don't do this" and "be sure to do that" when it comes to diet.
Anyway.. that's my 2 cents' worth :D
Salt will certainly temporarily rid you of those symptoms, until the next dose is needed.
Sodium/potassium ratios are issues more fundamental to cellular energy production and transport than the stimulating effects of raising blood pressure to deal with addition of free salts to the diet.
It's big subject with differing POVs. I certainly understand the need to address it in the most effective way for you.
dreamrawalwz
06-06-2006, 12:52 PM
I have an addiciton to salt, as well as food itself. If I have the smallest amount I crave it non stop and it's an all or nothing affect. I eat A LOT on everything or I have none. When I DO have salt I retain a lot of fluid (up to 10 pounds!), depression, irritability, ect. I just started having the salt again today though :(
Lay-Lay
06-06-2006, 01:04 PM
There is another side to the issue of salt intake.
If you are plagued with adrenal fatigue, you may actually NEED salt.
Thanks to Melissa who mailed me a very good book on this syndrome.
One symptom is the craving of salt.
Salt can actually help these people and they do not need to limit intake.
Of course, I'd use celtic sea salt.
But I have adrenal fatigue and my blood pressure is VERY low... around 90/60 constantly. Salt helps keep it up.
I think people need to investigage their own issues and bodies before jumping on band-wagons of "don't do this" and "be sure to do that" when it comes to diet.
Anyway.. that's my 2 cents' worth :D
That would explain alot. I have always had issues with my adrenals. But I found some bach flowers years ago and they really helped alot, but I haven't taken them in awhile. Maybe I will start again.
Lay-Lay
06-06-2006, 01:06 PM
P.S. I used to fluctuate between high blood pressure and very very low blood pressure (to the point I would pass out), but raw seemed to clear all that up and the past few times I have had it checked it has been pretty normal.
juliebove
06-06-2006, 01:43 PM
I stopped eating salt when the Dr. I was seeing at the time handed me a booklet about sodium and told me my BP would drop if I stopped eating it. Well, it didn't. And all that happened when I stopped eating salt was that I was cranky and crabby. So back to the salt I went.
Pailani
06-06-2006, 03:03 PM
And by the way, if anyone is interested in reading this book, I'll happily mail it to you. I did not pay her for it and I will not charge you for it if you promise to continue to "pass it forward."
I'd be interested in reading it - I think I must have adrenal fatigue from years of caffeine, and my blood pressure is always low.
bellona
06-06-2006, 03:32 PM
I have a salt sensitivity. When I have even a little bit of salt it tastes like ALOT and I can't stand it. When I have salt I blow up like a blow fish.
However, I mentioned this to my doctor and she said that everyone needs salt. What's that about?
I should mention I had no problems like this prior to being raw for a couple of months (when I had no salt by default) and then going back on a sad.
RowanC
06-06-2006, 03:46 PM
Thanks Svad :::embarrassed smile:::
Pailani, I'll get the book off to you sometime this week. I have other packages to mail so when I get them all packed up I'll make a trip to the PO.
I do realize that salt is not the cure-all for adrenal fatigue. I was just trying to make a point that salt is not necessarily "bad" for everyone. I apologize if I wasn't clear. :o
cornvalley
06-06-2006, 05:24 PM
I was just trying to make a point that salt is not necessarily "bad" for everyone. I apologize if I wasn't clear. :o
Even the staunch advocates of no added salt realize this. Keeping it at 1500mg. or below per day is deemed safe. Now, Hot Sauce...
I don't know about. :D
Gosia
06-06-2006, 05:33 PM
After some time on raw, me too found out that the best salt for my body comes from natural sources: food itself. I discovered that eating salt (Celtic etc.) may induce cooked food cravings. I discovered that circles under my eyes are associated with salt intake. I even discovered that my sleep can be disturbed after eating salt. So, I decided to deal with my salt addiction. I am still in the process of doing so and slowly giving it up. From others who have dealt with this problem already I heard of successes such as better progress in their transition to all-raw-all-the-time and more rapid weight loss, and even better teeth, for example. Ahh, and dark circles dissapearing, of course. Avocadoes, celery and tomatoes actually taste salty too me. I'm sure this is all I need.
Gosia.
i think salt (as it goes with several other things) can be good for some and bad for others. after i read the posts of several people who were doing so well on a high fruit/low fat diet, i cut back quite a bit on the fats (and salt- which i tend to eat with fat)-- i felt horrible. i find that i feel and function best on a high fat diet- which (for me) does include a small amount of salt. i believe i read in one of Cousen's books, that vata doshas tend to do better with salty, oily foods-- and i am very "vata." :)
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twinyoga
06-06-2006, 07:38 PM
Interesting thread...I usually sprinkle me celtic sea salt on anything and dip my food into it! So, after reading this thread I made my salad for dinner and only used raw cold pressed olive oil and lemon juice. No salt! I didn't miss it, either. Interesting. I'll have to see where this goes.
sport
06-06-2006, 08:24 PM
I only started doing salt after I went raw. I HAD BEEN ABOUT 20 YEARS WITH NO SALT BEFORE THAT.
Can not see any difference except that I am now in the habit of having salt with my avacoda.
Lay-Lay
06-06-2006, 11:11 PM
twinyoga,
Yes this thread prompted me to eat my salad this evening eith no salt. Which I didn't like to well so I added a garlic walnut dressing and that was pretty good, but I think it would have been soooo much better with a little celtic sea salt.
As a side note. Sea salt is great to wash your veggies and fruits in. ;)
cornvalley
06-06-2006, 11:19 PM
As a side note. Sea salt is great to wash your veggies and fruits in. ;)
It's also used to melt snow and ice on streets and sidewalks. Yum! :D
Pesky Pete strikes again....
KindnessToAllCreatures
06-07-2006, 07:57 AM
Thank you all for your posts on this subject- It's been quite helpful for me.
I've been 100% raw for 6 weeks. The last couple of days I've had cravings for non-raw foods. (I didn't give in-stuffing myself with all raw foods seemed helped me through!) I realized that my salt intake has been higher than normal. For me, salt intake really does seem to lend itself to food cravings. I've reduced my salt intake, and have noticed improvement already! :)
honeybee joy
06-25-2006, 12:54 PM
Originally Posted By RowanC
And by the way, if anyone is interested in reading this book, I'll happily mail it to you. I did not pay her for it and I will not charge you for it if you promise to continue to "pass it forward."
I thought you were going to send me ten dollars to my paypal for the book. I remember me saying, don't worry about it, if you feel you need to send me anything for it, send me five dollars for shipping, and you said, I want to send you ten dollars. I wondered why you never responded back. That hurt my feelings, I believed you were going to follow thru with what you said. If you couldn't send the money, you should have told me so. It's all about respect and comunication.
denisedeland
06-25-2006, 03:08 PM
Congrats... I have not given up salt myself. Did you find it hard to do?
Denise
dreamrawalwz
06-25-2006, 08:57 PM
Today is day 3 or 4 of no salt and my "puffiness" is decreasing, and I have more energy.
I've gone a couple of weeks without salt before and not noticed a difference really.
rawpriestess
06-26-2006, 02:52 AM
I don't do much salt, I use alot of spices though, but when I do eat any salt, I end up being very hungry the next few days, until the salt gets out of my system.
So, I don't know if it is the salt, or an MSG thing, as I usually only get salt in Braggs or nama shoyu, I can tell I got some yesterday at a raw potluck, as I was very hungry last night, and sleepy, and today too, ate about twice my usual food, and feel very full yet still want more, much like when I used to eat SAD.
So, I try to stay away from salts as much as possible, it may be great for others, just not for me.
I must admit, that it is an appetite stimulant.
Linda1970
06-26-2006, 11:11 AM
Thanks to this thread, I tried not consuming salt yesterday. For the first time in a long time, I had no food cravings when I was full. I actually felt so satisfied and in control as soon as I was full. Usually, every night, I would get food cravings when I was really full (usually cravings for really sweet fruits such as durian or mango), and I would eat sweet fruits even though I was full.
I will try this a few more days because I felt sooooo good to be in control; that is, to stop eating as soon as I feel full. Thanks for starting this thread!
p.s.
I had a lot of seaweed (dulse, kelp, kombu) yesterday. Even though they all had a lot of sodium naturally, it didn't cause food cravings.
Lay-Lay
06-27-2006, 12:11 AM
I am going to start trying to limit my salt intake for the rest of the week. I'll let you know how it goes.
I have some prepared stuff already in the fridge made with salt to season, so I'm not going to go cold turkey on the salt, but I'm not going to add it to anything else.
Gosia
06-27-2006, 12:57 AM
I am in too. :)
Gosia
Linda1970
06-27-2006, 11:34 AM
I am going to start trying to limit my salt intake for the rest of the week. I'll let you know how it goes.
I have some prepared stuff already in the fridge made with salt to season, so I'm not going to go cold turkey on the salt, but I'm not going to add it to anything else.
Me too, to all said above! :)
Jackie1995
06-27-2006, 01:35 PM
Hmmm...this is an interesting thread.
My question is: how does this tie in with the Watercure (salt and water) treatment?
For those of you who haven't heard about this, go here for more information:
http://www.watercure2.org/
Personally, I've noticed that my normal intake of potassium daily is huge. Easily over 6000 mg daily. Just from raw fruits, veggies, nothing cooked, nothing processed.
My sodium intake without any added salt is around 500. That's a 12 to 1 ratio of potassium to salt. Recommended intake is about 5 to 1.
Since sodium and potassium go hand-in-hand, cleaning out our body's cells, and in general maintaining our intercellular health, I think I'm way too potassiumed-out!
I've read about the watercure, and it made sense to me, so I started (recently) adding 1/4 tsp himalayan pink salt to each quart of water that I drink daily. (about 2 quarts, if I'm paying attention to it.) Per the site, I should be drinking 3 quarts daily, with 3/4 tsp salt added for the proper watercure ratio.
When I check my ratios after using the watercure information, the ratio is more like 4 to one potassium to salt, which is closer to the recommended 5 to 1 ratio.
Like Bryan said, it's all about balance. But I've been trying like heck to reduce my potassium, again, all from natural, fresh sources, but it's impossible. And I eat a super varied diet, lots of different fruits/veggies daily.
If you would like more information on how much potassium is in your foods, you can go to www.nutritiondata.com to check an individual food. I also use fitday.com so that's where I see the cumulative results of my food intake.
So, what are your thoughts on this aspect of salt intake? I'm looking forward to your input!
pamojamo
06-27-2006, 05:15 PM
I just got diagnosed with high blood pressure. As I keep transitioning to raw, I have faith I will be healed of this. My doc has put me on a low sodium food plan--no more than 2,000 miligrams of sodium per day. That may sound high to many of you, but some studies suggest the average SAD eater gets about 9,000 per day.
Anyway, I have been counting sodium miligrams since Friday (got diagnosis on Thursday). I've been keeping my miligrams to about 1,200 a day (easy to do as I keep transitioning to raw and I have not felt deprived). So, since Friday, my skin looks smoother and has better color. I've been running to the pottie constantly (getting rid of fluid retention?) and a pair of jeans that didn't fit 2 weeks ago now fit---right out of the dryer! And I have no sugar cravings--go figure. I now have a really salty taste in my mouth and my guess is my body is ridding itself of stored sodium.
Jackie1995
06-27-2006, 06:08 PM
As a follow up to my previous post, I found this interesting website on the potassium to sodium ratio.
http://www.drpasswater.com/nutrition_library/Potassium%20_to%20_Sodium_Ratio.html
What's interesting is that if "primitive" people (meaning certainly NOT eating the SAD diet) have ratios of potassium to salt close to 16:1, WOW! I guess I don't need the salt!
Good read, anyway.
But still, how does all this tie in with the Watercure? Hmmm....
Any input?
Lay-Lay
06-27-2006, 06:17 PM
I just got diagnosed with high blood pressure. As I keep transitioning to raw, I have faith I will be healed of this. My doc has put me on a low sodium food plan--no more than 2,000 miligrams of sodium per day. That may sound high to many of you, but some studies suggest the average SAD eater gets about 9,000 per day.
Anyway, I have been counting sodium miligrams since Friday (got diagnosis on Thursday). I've been keeping my miligrams to about 1,200 a day (easy to do as I keep transitioning to raw and I have not felt deprived). So, since Friday, my skin looks smoother and has better color. I've been running to the pottie constantly (getting rid of fluid retention?) and a pair of jeans that didn't fit 2 weeks ago now fit---right out of the dryer! And I have no sugar cravings--go figure. I now have a really salty taste in my mouth and my guess is my body is ridding itself of stored sodium.
I had blood pressure issues myself, but since going raw it is staying normal.
GreenPrince
06-27-2006, 06:47 PM
My simple advice is: Stay away from recommended intake whatsoever. These calculations are not based on raw food.
The recommendation for salt is from the beginning calculated from wrong assumptions SAD, Standard American Diet (and similar), or more frankly: SUICID ASPIRANT DIET...
Yes, a slowly but safe way to leave in a miserable state this beautiful world.
Scientific research has shown more than 50 ears ago that our real need of NaCl is about 0,2 g or 200 milligram/day. It is almost impossible to compose a diet which contains too little salt.
Not even in the desert, where the necessary water intake may reach 3 gallons a day, do you need extra salt if you are salt free. The people collapsing there, are salt consuming people. Even they can adapt to a low salt diet in the desert after an initial period.
Btw, 1 part excessive salt binds 110 parts water in your body, 4 grams 1 lb.
greeninlosangeles
06-27-2006, 07:48 PM
My new sauerkraut batch is almost ready without any salt - will see if I still like it...
berrymarymac
06-27-2006, 07:55 PM
I have never been partial to salt, when I made meals for my sister and parents...I NEVER seasoned anything, but just cooked or steamed it. I never understood why anyone wanted salt on their food, blah. But some days I crave it and tend to consume a bit of it. It's like my body is telling me to eat it, that it needs it, since I am not a fan of the salty stuff anyways.
Linda1970
06-27-2006, 09:13 PM
My new sauerkraut batch is almost ready without any salt - will see if I still like it...
How did you make sauerkraut without salt? As I know, it is the salt that discourages bad bacteria during fermentation. Pls. let me know if it turns out ok. Thanks...
pamojamo
06-27-2006, 09:29 PM
I had blood pressure issues myself, but since going raw it is staying normal.
You're posting some solid weight loss numbers (congrats!). Weight loss also helps the BP. That's fantastic!
pamojamo
06-27-2006, 09:34 PM
My simple advice is: Stay away from recommended intake whatsoever. These calculations are not based on raw food.
The recommendation for salt is from the beginning calculated from wrong assumptions SAD, Standard American Diet (and similar), or more frankly: SUICID ASPIRANT DIET...
Yes, a slowly but safe way to leave in a miserable state this beautiful world.
Scientific research has shown more than 50 ears ago that our real need of NaCl is about 0,2 g or 200 milligram/day. It is almost impossible to compose a diet which contains too little salt.
Not even in the desert, where the necessary water intake may reach 3 gallons a day, do you need extra salt if you are salt free. The people collapsing there, are salt consuming people. Even they can adapt to a low salt diet in the desert after an initial period.
Btw, 1 part excessive salt binds 110 parts water in your body, 4 grams 1 lb.
I was really high raw today and made notes on sodium milligrams to the best of my ability. I finished the day with 250 milligrams eaten. Feel great, not deprived.
spicyfull
06-28-2006, 02:07 AM
The SALT of the Earth...........
swingbolder
06-28-2006, 07:11 AM
i believe i read in one of Cousen's books, that vata doshas tend to do better with salty, oily foods-- and i am very "vata."
It's amazing how different we all are, isn't it?
I'm a vata too, and feel much better when I'm getting ample fat. Salt, I can take it or leave it. But I do make it celtic, so as to get those minerals.
Dawn39
06-28-2006, 07:57 AM
I've been using kelp/dulce flakes to help limit my s
Lazarita
06-28-2006, 02:32 PM
At one point I gave up salt totally. Then I read that Celtic Sea Salt is high in iron so I reincorporated salt into my diet. But I use very little of it.
Also, I have noticed that dehydrated recipes are heavier for my digestion so I only eat them when I go out to restaurants. Actually, I don't own a dehydrator but I may purchase one for special occasions...
What brand is recommended? I've heard Excalibur is good.
Lazarita
06-28-2006, 02:37 PM
I don't do much salt, I use alot of spices though, but when I do eat any salt, I end up being very hungry the next few days, until the salt gets out of my system.
So, I don't know if it is the salt, or an MSG thing, as I usually only get salt in Braggs or nama shoyu, I can tell I got some yesterday at a raw potluck, as I was very hungry last night, and sleepy, and today too, ate about twice my usual food, and feel very full yet still want more, much like when I used to eat SAD.
So, I try to stay away from salts as much as possible, it may be great for others, just not for me.
I must admit, that it is an appetite stimulant.
I read that Bragg's Amino Acids and Nama Shoyu is not raw. It was in a Cousen's book. Do you have any idea why this might be? I'm trying to increase my knowledge of raw since it's been almost a year that I've been raw now.
tinystrawberry
07-09-2006, 06:54 PM
I rarely add salt to any of my food, even when i was vegetarian. My mom always tells me that I should add salt to my food because "i don't get enough being raw". I'm not sure how much salt you actually need? does anyone know this? :confused: :)
cornvalley
07-09-2006, 08:45 PM
Sodium is used in conjunction by the body in relation to potassium. 1 to 2. That is the homeostatic state the interstitial fluids require for energy transport between cells and all that mumbo jumbo....so need varies according to your physical activities. Natural uncooked foods already contain good ratios of the kind of salts that are buffered and held in suspension by living plants so no supplementation should be nessesary. However the body can tolerate up to 2 grams of hard salts daily without too much concern. That's allota salt in my world but many seem to like it. The taste buds have adapted to where the insensitivities created by it's continued use .... need it.
exurb
07-10-2006, 07:01 AM
cornvalley, 2 grams isn't much compared with what most people eat. A teaspoonfull is about 4-5 grams, so that's how little we're talking.
I only started doing salt after I went raw. I HAD BEEN ABOUT 20 YEARS WITH NO SALT BEFORE THAT.
ME TOO!!! That's exactly it, I was great on no salt for years and years, then all these raw books and raw recipes started pushing the salt, so I went along with it, but now I'm thinking it's :eek: .
mellisamouse
07-18-2006, 12:29 AM
As a follow up to my previous post, I found this interesting website on the potassium to sodium ratio.
http://www.drpasswater.com/nutrition_library/Potassium%20_to%20_Sodium_Ratio.html
What's interesting is that if "primitive" people (meaning certainly NOT eating the SAD diet) have ratios of potassium to salt close to 16:1, WOW! I guess I don't need the salt!
Good read, anyway.
But still, how does all this tie in with the Watercure? Hmmm....
Any input?
I just read an article yesterday about just PLAIN water being a cure for EVERYTHING, and that all pain and most dsease is our body crying out in many different ways for water. So in his article..(I will try to post it later) It was water on it's own, no salt, that was the cure, so mabey they are geting good results from just the addition of more water to they're system, not really needing the salt for the results, but the water.
Ariannah
07-18-2006, 05:09 AM
I tried cutting out salt altogether, but didn't like it much. I do however, find myself not even thinking of adding salt to many things I eat. In the summer, I tend to eat more sweet fruits, and to add salt to that would be *yuk!*, so I do go for several days without salt if I am on a sweet fruit kick.
I would say my salt consumption has been reduced by 95%. And yes, I make sure it's good quality celtic sea salt.
dreamrawalwz
07-18-2006, 05:12 AM
I don't think anyone "needs" salt. We need sodium, but not in the form of salt. Way back when people didn't strain the salt from the sea (or wheverever), take the time to dry it, and then use it on their raw fruits and veggies...did they? Most likely not. There is sodium in celery and other foods. I'd have to do research to find which foods, but I know they provide enough sodium that you need. I may be wrong, that that's my opinion.
light food
07-18-2006, 11:06 AM
Wherever you go and livestock or pets are kept in cages or pens they always have a salt block around for the animals to lick. A long time ago, I heard someone pushing their mineral suplement say that livestock owners know how vital minerals and salt are to animal health and thus livestock are better mineralized than humans are.
Salt and Trace Minerals FAQs (regarding livestock needs (really long, don't read it, it's just to illustrate a point))
http://www.saltinstitute.org/stmfaqs.html
I did research, and even in the wild, animals search out salt beyond what they eat in their diet:
"A salt lick is a salt deposit that animals regularly lick. In an ecosystem, salt/mineral licks sometimes occur naturally, providing the calcium, iron, phosphorus and zinc required in the springtime for bone, muscle and other growth in deer and other wildlife. Harsh weather exposes salty mineral deposits that draw animals from miles away for a taste of needed nutrients."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_lick
Lambs at a salt lick and wild sheep at a natural salt lick.
light food
07-18-2006, 11:39 AM
Excerpts from the very bottom of this link, I thought the part about bulk sea salt in supermarkets was interesting.
http://www.embassyofheaven.com/newslett/news9404/news9404.htm
My theory is that since 1923 salt has been adulterated so severely by manufacturing that it leads to addiction. Salt deprivation to alleviate hypertension is also harmful. Dow Chemical started refining salt in 1923 to make it pure and not cake up with moisture. All the essential minerals were removed except sodium chloride. Why were there sporadic epidemics of thyroid problems and manic depressive psychoses? Sea water contains lithium, but there is no lithium in refined salt (Mortons). Lithium is commonly prescribed to regulate manic-depressive individuals.
Common table salt usually contains dextrose (sugar) to stabilize it and sodium bicarbonate to keep it white. Chemical anticaking agents are also added to keep it "free-flowing." Watch out for salt marked "sea salt," commonly found in bulk at supermarkets and health food stores. Being labeled "sea salt" does not mean it is free from additives, or that it contains trace minerals from sea water. Nor does being labeled "sea salt" mean it is free from heating, refining, and extensive processing. Being labeled "sea salt" means nothing more than that it came from the sea! It is no more an assurance of a natural, wholesome product than it is to say that white refined flour is healthful because it came from a farm.
Don't be fooled by "Kosher salt." "Kosher salt" is as highly refined as ordinary table salt and is treated with the same chemicals as table salt during manufacturing to remove mineral "impurities."
Look on the salt label for a mineral analysis and check to see if chemicals have been added. The brand we use is REAL SALT from American Orsa, Inc. Health food stores carry it or can usually order it for you. REAL SALT is salt from an ancient sea bed. There are no additives and it has not been heated. It has a pinkish tinge from the trace minerals.
Some people think the answer is to avoid all salt. Our cells need the naturally occurring minerals found in unrefined salt. What we want to avoid is common table salt which has been perverted into a refined product with chemical additives. Certain vegetables such as celery, carrots and beets are high in natural sodium. Kelp, which is a seaweed available in powdered form, is high in sodium and trace minerals and can be used in place of salt.
dreamrawalwz
07-18-2006, 12:42 PM
Excerpts from the very bottom of this link, I thought the part about bulk sea salt in supermarkets was interesting.
http://www.embassyofheaven.com/newslett/news9404/news9404.htm
My theory is that since 1923 salt has been adulterated so severely by manufacturing that it leads to addiction. Salt deprivation to alleviate hypertension is also harmful. Dow Chemical started refining salt in 1923 to make it pure and not cake up with moisture. All the essential minerals were removed except sodium chloride. Why were there sporadic epidemics of thyroid problems and manic depressive psychoses? Sea water contains lithium, but there is no lithium in refined salt (Mortons). Lithium is commonly prescribed to regulate manic-depressive individuals.
Common table salt usually contains dextrose (sugar) to stabilize it and sodium bicarbonate to keep it white. Chemical anticaking agents are also added to keep it "free-flowing." Watch out for salt marked "sea salt," commonly found in bulk at supermarkets and health food stores. Being labeled "sea salt" does not mean it is free from additives, or that it contains trace minerals from sea water. Nor does being labeled "sea salt" mean it is free from heating, refining, and extensive processing. Being labeled "sea salt" means nothing more than that it came from the sea! It is no more an assurance of a natural, wholesome product than it is to say that white refined flour is healthful because it came from a farm.
Don't be fooled by "Kosher salt." "Kosher salt" is as highly refined as ordinary table salt and is treated with the same chemicals as table salt during manufacturing to remove mineral "impurities."
Look on the salt label for a mineral analysis and check to see if chemicals have been added. The brand we use is REAL SALT from American Orsa, Inc. Health food stores carry it or can usually order it for you. REAL SALT is salt from an ancient sea bed. There are no additives and it has not been heated. It has a pinkish tinge from the trace minerals.
Some people think the answer is to avoid all salt. Our cells need the naturally occurring minerals found in unrefined salt. What we want to avoid is common table salt which has been perverted into a refined product with chemical additives. Certain vegetables such as celery, carrots and beets are high in natural sodium. Kelp, which is a seaweed available in powdered form, is high in sodium and trace minerals and can be used in place of salt.
They also put corn in table salt. I wonder if this is true for "sea salt." That part about sea salt still being as processed has really hit me hard...i will no longer wnat it lol (i'm addicted and it does nasty stuff to me).
light food
07-18-2006, 12:58 PM
They also put corn in table salt. I wonder if this is true for "sea salt." That part about sea salt still being as processed has really hit me hard...i will no longer wnat it lol (i'm addicted and it does nasty stuff to me).
Me too, I always bought the bulk sea salt, smugly looking at the regular table salt next to it and thinking that I was so smart not to buy it. Now, I'm not going to use my sea salt for anything but Salt Water Flushes during cleanses. Got to get my hands on some great celtic salt or kelp as soon as I go shopping. :o
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