Alissa's enzymes

[faith4u]

Hi Everyone!!

I just started taking Alissa's enzymes and I love them compared to any others I have tried.

I have a question though. Are you supposed to take them right when you start eating a meal or do you take them 15 minutes or so before a meal?

Anyone know?

Thanks

[cornvalley]

What's the matter with using your own enzymes? There's nothing like the real thing in regards to intensity and ratios specifically designed by you, for you. Your adaptation to supplements will lessen your own production capabilities over time. Just a thought.

[faith4u]

What's the matter with using your own enzymes? There's nothing like the real thing in regards to intensity and ratios specifically designed by you, for you. Your adaptation to supplements will lessen your own production capabilities over time. Just a thought.

Well, if we lived in a perfect world........unfortunately, my body doesn't digest food very well. I have extreme pain at times if I eat certain foods. I would much rather take something that would help me better utilize my food than not.

[cornvalley]

So let me understand it better. If you take the enzyme pill with the foods that previously caused problems you will then have no distress like you did without them?
I've been with many post fasters that have renewed abilities to digest food previously considered 'problem foods'. That might be an avenue worth considering. I think enzyme preparations are tricky at best and at worse will weaken an already comprimised digestive facility.
But that won't deter you, I know. Taking something to have an effect is kinda ingrained from the medical arts mentality and something that many times (not always) is contrary to your actual needs.
Best of luck with it.

[Dimond]

Every single professional nutritionist/raw food expert recommends taking enzymes so I can't see how this is a bad thing at all. Enymes usually are taken right before, during or after meals. Though a couple formulas say to take them seperately. I would ask Alissa if instructions weren't included. Which formula are you using? I've been thinking of trying hers as well.

[learningrawways]

I bought Alissa's therapeutic enzymes and the directions are on package. 1/4 tsp 3 times a day on an empty stomach.....one hour before meals or 2 hrs after a meal. It should be taken with 12 oz of water. Hope that helps.

[kiddies]

Gabriel Cousens recommends that all people take enzymes in one of his books. I cannot remember which book though. He would rather people take them and stay on raw, than have to deal with all of the food combining and people giving up due to lack of variety and the complexity of food combining.

Plus, with the SAD diet, a lot of people's digestive systems are wrecked, so taking diegestive enzymes gives your body a rest, not having to struggle to produce more digestive enzymes.

The reason people have allergies to things is they do not have the proper enzymes in their body to break the food down and get certain nutrients out of it. That is why people are addicted to what they are allergic to, because the body is crying for a nutrient in that food, that they are unable to assimulate, so it keeps on craving that food, because it is not able to break down that said food and get the nutient needed. When people take digestive enzymes, they find that a lot of their food cravings diminish. Same thing when people go from a SAD diet to a raw food diet. Eating raw provides more enzymes. Sometimes that is not enough at first for some people when they start raw, because they have a depletion of digestive enzymes, and that is why many raw fooders find relief when they take them.

Cornvalley, you may be right, fasting might speed up the healing process and help that person heal their digestive track, but not everyone can fast at the beginning of their raw journey. Some have blood sugar issues, or other issues that might make fasting unwarranted. Not everyone is able to have a medically supervised fast.

[cornvalley]

Thankyou for acknowledging fasting. It DOES speed up healing, not 'might' speed up healing. Rest IS the magic ingredient one can provide with the assurance that it will hasten recovery. Enzymes do not have the ability to heal anything. Explain, in physiological terms, the process by which this can occur if that is what you believe. 'Aids' of this kind have no value in producing normal biological function. I would love to have a scientifically produced study handed to me on this subject. All I ever hear are those I would describe as 'phycological aids'.


That is why people are addicted to what they are allergic to, because the body is crying for a nutrient in that food, that they are unable to assimulate, so it keeps on craving that food, because it is not able to break down that said food and get the nutient needed.

Where did you learn this?
Which nutrients are we talking about? There seems to be is no 'crying' for anything, except in the mind, which we all should be in control of.
Allergies, leaky gut syndrome, are signs of undigested protien chains making there way through the intestine walls into the body proper where they must be dealt with as foriegn invaders.
I don't like the word addiction thrown around so freely. There is a physiological reality to substance addiction that gets confused with peoples inabilities to make what they know are healthy food choices.
Maybe we could get addicted to taking enzymes, by that definition.

There are philisophical differences between ways of assessing reality. I like scientically based studies with control groups and repeatable outcomes. Are there any here? I don't know. Have yet to get one.

Anyway, it's a beautiful Sunday morning here in LA LA land. Quiet as a doormouse out there. Bunch o' sleepyheads getting ready for barbeque and beer. At least we all share the gift of clean and concious living.
Have a nice holiday and remember those who helped give us all this freedom.

[faith4u]

So let me understand it better. If you take the enzyme pill with the foods that previously caused problems you will then have no distress like you did without them?
I've been with many post fasters that have renewed abilities to digest food previously considered 'problem foods'. That might be an avenue worth considering. I think enzyme preparations are tricky at best and at worse will weaken an already comprimised digestive facility.
But that won't deter you, I know. Taking something to have an effect is kinda ingrained from the medical arts mentality and something that many times (not always) is contrary to your actual needs.
Best of luck with it.

Yes, I am sure that fasting would probably help. I cannot fast right now, though, because I am nursing a baby. I am always either nursing a baby or pregnant so fasting is not an option for me.
:p

Thanks though

[faith4u]

I bought Alissa's therapeutic enzymes and the directions are on package. 1/4 tsp 3 times a day on an empty stomach.....one hour before meals or 2 hrs after a meal. It should be taken with 12 oz of water. Hope that helps.

Thanks for telling me that. I have the regular enzymes and it just says to take it with a meal. I was wondering because I ran across another raw site that says to take them about 20 minutes before a meal. I was just curious as to if it is better to wait a bit before you eat after taking them.

[kiddies]

People can become physically addicted to things also, it is not always mental.

Here is a definition of addiction, it explains all of the different forms of addiction:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addiction

"I would love to have a scientifically produced study handed to me on this subject."

I find this comment saddening, not every person has the answers, and that includes you. I sure feel like you are talking down to me, like there is not possible way that I am right. A much more polite and respectable way of asking that would be "Wow, never hear of that before, do you have any information on that?" I would really be interested in reading the studies and information." It is a much less arrogant, condescending approach. I find that I respond much better to that approach."

I find the information that you provided to be helpful, I just did not like the tone or additude in which you portrayed it. I also do not believe that it is wise to tell people to fast without explaining that it is something they need to study up on, because alot of bad things can happen with a unexperienced faster.

Here is the place that I learned of this information:

http://www.enzymeexperts.com/world-enzymes/what-foods-do-you-crave-.html

Thank you for you helpful information.



"Anyway, it's a beautiful Sunday morning here in LA LA land. Quiet as a doormouse out there. Bunch o' sleepyheads getting ready for barbeque and beer. At least we all share the gift of clean and concious living."

I think if that is what they wanna do, then we should respect them as humans that live together with us on this planet. It is not the nicest thing to gossip about them on a raw food board. It just doesn't sound very loving to me. We should be thankful that we know about clean, concious living, not think we are better than them because "we are clean and concious about our living." It just sounds so condescending!

Sorry, but I don't enjoy reading that negativity.

[THX-1138]

May I ask what specific enzymes you are taking? Because the vast majority of enzymes do not help the body digest food, despite what David Wolfe, Gabriel Cousens, or any other so-called 'experts' claim.

[rawpriestess]

What's the matter with using your own enzymes? There's nothing like the real thing in regards to intensity and ratios specifically designed by you, for you. Your adaptation to supplements will lessen your own production capabilities over time. Just a thought.
Cornvalley, I would like to ask you, where you learned this information?

Seems to me like you are doing exactly what you don't like in others.

Making statements without proper scientifc basis.

The Original post, didn't ask is supplimentation good for you?

It asked an entirely different question.

So, let's not start an argument where none is warranted.

If you want to start a new thread all about Is supplimentation necessary, then fine, but please don't try to debunk something unless YOU have all the scientific facts, if you expect others to.

Also, Alissa sells these, so we KNOW that she has done all of the research for us about this product.

I have complete faith in her judgement, scientifically proven or not.

[rawpriestess]

Also Cornvalley, please understand that fasting may work for you, and it may work for others, but it doesn't work for everyone, people who are hypoglycemic should not fast, nursing mothers should not fast, pregnant women should not fast, etc.


So, please understand that saying "might" help you, is a way to state what might help many,but NOT ALL.

we love our friendly and helpful forum, please understand that you and everyone has a right to their opinion, and no one should HAVE to justify, explain or defend that opinion.

Your comments, make it sound like you DEMAND that everyone here gives you scientific proof of their thoughts and ideas, that just isn't going to wash here.

so, I'm gonna' ask you to chill!!!

[THX-1138]

Though, I don't necessarily agree with cornvalley's statement that enzyme supplements will diminish the body's ability to make its own, I do with his/her general statement that they are unnecessary.

[THX-1138]

Your comments, make it sound like you DEMAND that everyone here gives you scientific proof of their thoughts and ideas, that just isn't going to wash here.

so, I'm gonna' ask you to chill!!!

If someone is claiming that their 'ideas or thoughts' are scientifically legitimate, especially if they're selling a product based on such claims, then they should be prepared to back their claims with scientific evidence (which has not been done as of yet).

[rawpriestess]

THX, no one here is stating anything about scientific proof except cornvalley, faith4u, had a good question, it wasn't about whether ezymes are good for you or not, if you want to tackle that question, then open another thread with that questions, they you all can discuss/argue all you want about it, but not here.


The original OP has been answered, I'm going to close this thread now, as it has only gotten worse.