Eating too much fat :(

[robertandenith]

I went and opened up an acct on fitday and found out that 60% of my daily intake is fat! aurgh! What can I do to correct this? The only fruit I love to eat is banana, I eat VERY little apples, I love mangos though, I like watermelons but I am more of a veggie person. What else can I do to increase my carb intake? What are your %'s in a daily basis?

thanks!!!

[Juicyfruit]

I average 40 to 60% as well. I've been high raw for about two years. I have days when I don't eat as much fat just because some of the foods I want to eat that day contain less fat, but it all averages out pretty much. Why are you worried about the fat? When you are eating raw, raw fats are totally different than cooked vegetable and animal fats. That's the only time you should even worry about fat. There are other opinions out there, but if you feel good I wouldn't worry about it. I have a lot more energy when I have more fat in my diet, so that tells me that the fat level in my diet works for me. :)

[robertandenith]

I do too JuicyFruit!!! My husband keeps telling me that I have to watch my fat intake that I will not lose any weight if I keep eating this way. I mean, I feel that my body asks for it. Specially avocados. Nuts, I just add them in sauces, crusts and my flax crackers which I just can't stay away from lol.

Your post is giving me some hope. I been stuck for over a week (losing weight) but I haven't been all raw the last couple of days :o We ate one cooked meal each day but I am back to raw again specially that my husband started a fast. I just wish I could fast but I can't stop breastfeeding.

thanks for your reply! :)

[rawfigure]

My fat average 20-25 % winter 10-15 % summer. That much fat 50-60 I would gain like crazy ! and tired for sure, but again we are all different !

Eat more Veggies and Fruit, sprouted grains, and sprouts like mung, more sea veggies and raw soups to fill you up. They are awesome addition to the diet.

[Drawn]

oh the benefits of green smoothies....

I enjoy sweet fruits so I don't really have a problem getting them in. However, if you want to add more of those to your day, you can always slip a few into a green smoothie. When I eat green smoothies, I don't crave fats. I do believe in fats though as I just feel better when I eat coconut oil, hemp seeds and olive oil. Not that I have to force myself to eat sweet fruits, but my green smoothie usually includes two oranges, one/two apples, one banana and lots of greens. That takes care of five fruits right there. I often end up with 32-40 ounces of green smoothie but I love it.

[madmel]

Drawn,

would that be a day's supply? Do you replace meals with your smoothie?

mel

[Drawn]

Mel,
That typically lasts me the morning and into the early afternoon. It's not so much a meal replacement as I consider it a meal. I don't eat a lot of gourmet these days. I often start my morning with water. I will then make my smoothie and drink most of it over 30-60minutes. An hour or so later I will have a tablespoon of coconut oil and a tablespoon of hempseed oil. I might have a couple of tablespoons of bee pollen then too. If I have any green smoothie left I will drink it until its gone. By mid afternoon I have other fruit or maybe nuts. By dinner time I'm usually hungry for a big salad with greens or occasionally without greens. I keep the dressing simple with good olive oil and acv. I might eat more fruit later if I feel like it; it all depends. I forgot to add that I also include spirulina in my green smoothie so its very green.

Dawn

[misslinda]

Personally, I have come to the point that I don't even think about fat and naturally I only consume 10% or less direct fat sources like nuts or oils if at all.

I use to track my intake but the more I did it, the more I was inclined to struggle.....I gave it up a while back and have had no problems since then. My fat intake is where it wants to be.



:)

[Sharon in Colorado]

You are in luck because bananas are one of the higher calorie fruits. I'm almost scared to bring up the online "tool" you used because it's frowned upon here but if you eat a couple extra bananas and then enter it into that online "tool" you'll see a dramatic difference in your percentage. Also grapes are a fairly high calorie carbs, as well as any other sweet fruits. Mangoes, too. Just a couple of extra fruits would definately raise your carb intake and would give you more energy. Lots of fresh greens and fruit would also be great for your milk supply.

[RawTruth]

I went and opened up an acct on fitday and found out that 60% of my daily intake is fat! aurgh! What can I do to correct this? The only fruit I love to eat is banana, I eat VERY little apples, I love mangos though, I like watermelons but I am more of a veggie person. What else can I do to increase my carb intake? What are your %'s in a daily basis?

thanks!!!My best advice to you, robertandenith, is to go back and close that account of fitday!! Re-read the section of Alissa's book where she talks about when you're 100% raw, you needn't worry about carbs, fats, calories, etc. That is SO important. I know it's been said over and over, but I'm going to repeat it anyway because it's just so hard sometimes to get rid of the old "knowledge" that we've learned and is still being drummed into us -- okay, here goes -- if you're eating 100%, just eat as much as you want of what you want when you first go all raw. (This doesn't necessarily apply if you're quite obese.)

Your body needs the living foods.

Then, after a while, your body WILL naturally begin to want to cut down on some things and have mroe (or less) of others. Most people who stay 100% are not eating majority of raw gourmet items at 2 years raw; unless they haven't listened to their bodies or they have an eating issue or they're really eating emotionally (or recreationally, as Brian Clement calls it).

You say you haven't lost recently but you also say you've been eating cooked. Well, hello!! There's your answer. It's not the plant fats, it's that you're not staying all raw.

I don't know if you have lots of weight to lose. If you do (or anyone who is lurking and reading this), then visit Carlene's sites www.ibeatobesity.com or www.rawfoodbootcamp.com because it's a different ballgame for you.

Also, you mention that you'd like to fast. Is that because you're thinking it's a way to lose weight? Or because you'd like a "clean slate" to begin all raw again? I hate to sound like a broken record, but Alissa addresses that in her book also. She says NOT to fast - to just get back on the horse.

I've been away from the forum for a long time, so please excuse me not knowing much about you. When you mentioned breastfeeding, though, the bells really went off for me. Whatever amount of fat you're eating or dehydrated and prepared gourmet foods you're wanting, gosh - you're nursing! You need those fats during this time!

Anyway - I've said enough! :) Best of luck -- you're doing fine. Don't sweat it. Just eat all raw!!

[madmel]

Dawn, thanks for the explanation ;)

mel

[goodbeets]

I have definately found that eating more green smoothies decreases my fat cravings. I also make nut milks so I get my nut cravings in check incorporated with a lot of water so I am more full on less nuts. It's so funny, these foods are so nummy I think I am cheating! Good luck.

[robertandenith]

well RawThruth I really love your HONESTY! :D I told my husband this also, about breastfeeding and me eating all this fat. I feel that after I breastfeed I want to eat avocados and nuts :o

THANK YOU THANK YOU! I guess yes, I wanted to fast to lose some weight. No I am not overweight but I been stuck forever on the scale even SAD or RAW, still stuck. I am at the top of the charts in the NORMAL WEIGHT, so I thought losing a couple of more pounds --ok who I am kidding!-- 15 to 20 more pounds I wanted to say lol!!!!!

I think your post has cleared up my mind. I need to stick to a 100% rawgime! I am GOING TO DO IT!

Thanks AGain! RawThruth. Your username goes well with you. :)

[robertandenith]

Eat more Veggies and Fruit, sprouted grains, and sprouts like mung, more sea veggies and raw soups to fill you up. They are awesome addition to the diet.

Thanks for answering, I wanted to know YOUR fat intake since I know you are a bodybuilder :) I have a bunch of grains that I bought the other day and haven't sprouted yet! I think I will have to do them asap before I finish all my nuts! Let me ask you... what is a normal day for you? what do you eat? thanks!!!!


I don't eat a lot of gourmet these days.

THAT'S my BIG problem!!!! I crave all thi complicated gourmet foods! I love cooking and now uncooking! It's the chef in me I guess, I want to create all this weird foods it's unbelievable. I don't even have a cookbook and when I get a recipe, I love to turn it around and do something on my own. I am not sure why! Then of course, I HAVE to eat it! :p :confused: :o :D oops!

So you eat fruits at night? how late? just curious... thanks in advance!

MissLinda... I noticed your menu I wish I could eat so simple like you, but with my daughters around, I have to keep the refrigerator full then when I open it, I have all these choices and want to eat them all! lol!!! I am a food lover I must say :o Do you live by yourself? how long you have been doing raw?


Sharon, yes thank you! I must add more fruits to my diet. For some reason I been wanting lots of greens. I am not been a fruit person lately. I must add them! I love mangos, they are my favorite but darn it I hate to peel it! lol :D

Goodbeets, I don't mind eating greens, I will have to eat huge salads at night. That's when I crave the fats the most!

thanks everyone I really appreciate your input! :)

[rawfigure]

robertandenith

I have a very basic diet, then depending on my work/travel schedule and amount of cardio/training I have to tweek it...I try to tune in to what my energy levels are and go from there. I would say about once a week I allow myself the freedom to just go with the flow...and may need eat as well as I would like.

Basic is:
a small amount of fruit when I get up, usually 1/2 apple, small chunck of frozen banana...then after 30-60 min of goofing off I hit the gym and /or the Cardio room, outside to run.

Meal One:usually Grapefruit, maybe some berries & left over 1/2 fruit from earlier. Usually it is Grapefruit sections on Romaine lettuce, maybe with a dash of stevia and orange stevia, or lemon and stevia. On occassion Raw Banana Ice Cream !

If I have it I have a shot of wheatgrass.

I shower for work and then when I get hungry I go after my Green Drink...and I may drink 12-24 -32 OZ thru the afternoon. I may add Spirulina, Green food if I remember.

I have a big bowl of salad and veggies 1-2 times later in the day. I snack on this too. If I am on the road (travel for work) all day I may have veggies in a baggie to snack on for Lunch and green drink for pre dinner/ dinner.

I may have more veggies at night. Sliced Red Cabbage is my fav.

Treats later in the evening is usually Raw Ice Cream (I eat maybe 1/4 cup at most), some fruit, strawberries apple.

On my anything day which was yesterday ( I was hungry form weights and a 6 mile run) I ate some Almonds/Pumkin Seeds probably equal to 2 serving all day , a big pile of Flax Crackers. I was up till 1 am , starving so I ate an apple before bed.

I mono eat, like Miss Linda, go simple and food combine too. I feel best this way.

Right now I am not doing any gourmet recipes and deserts. My first 6 months raw I did alot of these and nuts daily. As the weather changes I find I prefer fruit and lighter foods.

OH in place of salads I use Green Soups, fav is Arugula Extra Zink Soup (Sunfood Cuisine ) . I love them with dulce, kelp sprinkled on top. FILLING !

[LNdolls]

Actually, speaking as a morbidly obese person - Alissa is right. Relax and eat what you want - as long as it is raw. I did and ate high fat 100% raw for 45 days - I felt fantastic, noticed that I no longer craved sweets after only 22 days or so, and eating like a Queen I still lost 6.5 pounds in that time.
It may take a bit longer for some people to tune into the body speaking to them, but it will happen.. and the healing of doing 100% raw is profound.
The problem I ran into was the expectation that I would have dropped more like 30 pounds than 6.5 in that time period, but going raw convinced me that raw is the way for me.
Carlene's Raw Food Boot Camp is a jet speed raw way to melt off the fat and well worth the time and money.

[eatyourbroccoli]

i havent gone through and read the other responses above, but just wanted to add my own experience..

i eat anywhere from 60-75% fat everyday. i know because i use fitday to track my vitamin/mineral intake. i eat at least an avocado a day, 2ish coconut oil table spoons, sunflower seeds, and ton of flax seeds.

ive, nonetheless, lost 8 lbs in the first week.

our bodies NEED the essential fatty acids in these foods. its good fat. dont let the misguided view from the 80s that 'fat makes you fat' take over. it isnt true by any means.

an example is that pacific islanders consume a large amount of fat daily through coconuts and seeds and whatnot, and are among the slimmest cultures in the world. good fat actually speeds up your metabolism, and gives you more energy as fat stores more energy than carbohydrates. it also makes your skin absolutely glow.

eat as you wish. the weight will come off when your body is ready for it to.

[rawfigure]

eat as you wish. the weight will come off when your body is ready for it to.

ah I wish this was the case for me , I tried eating whatever 100% raw for a 3-4 months and gained some bodyfat and I was already at my ideal weight.It is most likely due to my compromised metabolism. YEARS of dieting, severe dieting, and Low cal diets....maybe over time it will correct but 9 months raw I find it has not changed much. Still cannot eat alot with out gaining, then it is a fight to get it off. I was sure that after months of higher cals and higher fat when I dropped it back out I would lose, (like most people do..) my body recognize the calorie deficeit but now I am running my butt off for 6 weeks now..just to get off those few pounds !!!

[Ariella]

i would say listen to your body if that is what it is wanting well than have it:) but i would have to add that not everybody is built to where they can just eat whatever they want as long as it is 100% raw. i have been 100% raw now for 54 days (was high raw prior to that for 6 years) i have played with it over time and every time i eat any gourmet foods i gain weight :( i wish it was not like that for me but it is. so as long as i just eat fruits and veggies or simple raw gourmet ie. fruit pies no crust i can lose weight. so yes, there are many who it works to eat whatever you like and lose weight. i definitely do not feel deprived though, i eat as many fruits and veggies as i would like and i feel satisfied :)

sharon is right eating some more fruit would bring down the percentage of fat in your diet. why not more watermelon or mangos if you like those :) plus they are mostly in season now :) mmmm!!!

good luck on your journey! and definitely stay 100% raw regardless of what you decide to do.

Ariella

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[jaurequi]

I am like rawfigure. I have been an athlete for many years and still will gain weight eating "whatever I want," no matter how much exercise I do.

If you're a vegetable person, robertandenith, then you are actually in a better situation to lose weight. Fill up on vegetables -- eat, eat, eat -- with a small amount of fat: sprinkle nuts and seeds onto your vegetables or salad, or make a creamy dressing out of nuts for a fat-tasting, delicious dressing. Avoid oils.

Vegetables are low in calories, so these are the best foods to eat in volume. (Especially greens; the green smoothie suggestion is also excellent, make two of those a day and see how satiated you eventually become and how you end up eating less over the course of the day and the week.)
You can eat fruit in between meals instead of other fatty sweets.
Make sure to drink water since your fruit intake is low.
Also, shredding, dicing, slicing vegetables give different textures to vegetables that vary the eating experience if you get bored.
Try a new vegetable every trip to the store.
Use spices and herbs if you need to.
Again, avoid oils.

Best,

[misslinda]

MissLinda... I noticed your menu I wish I could eat so simple like you, but with my daughters around, I have to keep the refrigerator full then when I open it, I have all these choices and want to eat them all! lol!!! I am a food lover I must say :o Do you live by yourself? how long you have been doing raw?


:)


Robertandedith, I live with my sister who is not raw but will relish in my treats once in awhile but she loves her non-raw desserts and foods--so I do see the food and smell baking bread in the oven and the aroma of other foods.

I hope my personal intake doesn't make you feel that is how it should be. The point I was attempting to strive for is what Rawtruth outlined. Honestly, it seems ( the 2 years I've been here) the ones that use mathematical formulas or some kind of tracking modality tend to struggle OR still have fixations of food. Although, I did track everything when I started 2 years ago and never succeeded [consistently] until I chose to give up counting every calorie etc. My previous intense food issues are now completely GONE.

I have naturally reached this way of eating in terms of not eating hardly any added fats or nuts/grains.

Seriously, you will have a much more changes with letting go of "tracking." b grant it, you will have those days that will pass as well.

:)

[JMD]

robertandedith~~



I hope you are doing better today????
I just felt compelled to share MY experience..

I eat 60% fat AND have lost 4 lbs --and I had little to lose just more inches etc. I often felt "bad" eating higher fats so when I read about alot of folks here doing 80-10-10 I cut out nuts and most fats. When I ate higher "filling foods" like fruits and lots of smoothies I was never SATISFIED. I ate too much fruit to compensate for "trying" to eat lowfat and I gained 5-6 lbs and was bloated a lot. My pants were also snug. I realize today I was trying to control and fit in too much AND go against what my body needed. I was also afraid to eat too much fat etc.....
I did let go after while and went back to eating the way I was WITH more fats. And I lost that weight and even lost more inches than when i started--I look more toned than ever and MORE energized with more fat--go figure

So I have come to figure out--with trial and error.....
I just work better on higher fats and less carbs. I am NOT a turbo exerciser or a fast metabolizer either.

I REALLY think YOUR body is telling you something. I am NOT saying go eat 45 avocados at lunch JUST do not be afraid to be YOU...
Your body is doing lots of work right now MAYBE give yourself sometime??

I also like what Rawtruth said..hit home for me. NO ONE OF US HERE is the same. Some work better or little food ,some eat 3 meals, some eat all day long and that goes for food choices, exercise etc....

Please go easy take a deep breathe--or two ...and trust yourself

:)JMD

[robertandenith]

ok I am just going to relax and pay attention to my body, and NOT MY HUSBAND! LOL!!! he has all this crazy idea that I will not lose any weight. He is in his second day of fasting and already lost 3 pounds! :confused: :mad: aurgh!!!!!!!! yes I am mad, lol but oh well. I really need this fat to be able to produce breastmilk and I am not going to quit breastfeeding anytime soon. BTW, my baby is gaining weight (woohoo!!!) she is all raw too. Today I weighed myself and found out that I am one pound less heavy :D

JMD, about today... hmmm.... still eating the same way. I can't help it! lol Now that I know that I am eating a lot of fat (thanks fitday aurgh!) I crave it even more. But I will follow the advice of adding more greens to my diet.

thanks for everyone who responded, I really appreciate your replies.

[Sharon in Colorado]

BTW Carlenes Raw Boot Camp for the obese is not a wild card eat-all-the-fat- you-want-as-long-as-its-raw diet, it is a very regimented low-fat diet, usually 10% or less. Most of the members where not able to lose on any other raw diet.

Also I think a body can tell the difference between raw fats, like fresh fats vs. dried and dehydrated fats vs. concentrated fats like oils.

If you are getting your fats from avocados and some fatty fruits you'll probably lose and detox at a faster rate then dehydrated stuff, nuts, oils etc. Fresh higher water food is just going to move through you more quickly than dried food.

I too once in a while get stuck in a 'fat' rut where I'm overeating un-fresh "raw junk food", some recipe I made, and not enough true fresh food. I usually try to ride it out but I feel much lighter and energetic when I'm eating lower fat.

Every morning I do a carrot/apple juice, loaded up smoothie with bananas, lots of other fruits and greens which gives me a good start on my carbs. I try to do one other fruit meal a day as well. Also I try to get the more heavy or fatty stuff later in the day for dinner such as a big salad so that is a more natural food combining progression. I don't do flax crackers so much anymore, but when I did I usually ate it with my salad.

I am sure you'll find your balance and what works with you - you just have to pay attention to how you feel and be open to trying different things.

[Brianna]

ah I wish this was the case for me , I tried eating whatever 100% raw for a 3-4 months and gained some bodyfat and I was already at my ideal weight.It is most likely due to my compromised metabolism. YEARS of dieting, severe dieting, and Low cal diets....maybe over time it will correct but 9 months raw I find it has not changed much. Still cannot eat alot with out gaining, then it is a fight to get it off. I was sure that after months of higher cals and higher fat when I dropped it back out I would lose, (like most people do..) my body recognize the calorie deficeit but now I am running my butt off for 6 weeks now..just to get off those few pounds !!!
Same here. I cannot eat whatever I want, even if it is raw, or I will gain weight.

[Drawn]

[QUOTE=robertandenith]

So you eat fruits at night? how late? just curious... thanks in advance!

QUOTE]

I have a very strange sleep schedule so I sometimes eat later than most. I don't eat right before bed, but I might even eat some fruit at midnight. I especially find this so when I haven't had enough water for the day. I usually drink lemon water throughout the day but sometimes I just don't feel like it and I obviously crave juicy fruits for hydration. I might have an apple if I feel overfull for some reason. Apples tend to move my bowels so I know if I eat one when I feel full, by morning I'm good. If I am feeling a bit more decadent, I might have a midnight bowl of banana ice cream; plain or with berries, mmmm.
You're welcome. :D

[robertandenith]

ok UPDATE!

today I had a medium size green salad with salsa and just one spoon of pesto for lunch. I also had a small avocado with some sea salt. I swear I think my body calls for the fats, I still ate fat but in a fruit form.

I also ate a mango. but then nib on some crust I have laying around in the fridge, then on some walnuts while making grated 'cheese' for my oldest. *sighs* at least it was not in a huge quantity. oh! I also forgot, I ate 2 stuffed mushies with some cashew pate. wow It's only 3 pm and look at what I have eaten already. My daughter has been breastfeeding like crazy so that makes me so hungry :o

[gatorgrrl]

I also use fitday because I am concerned with getting all my vitamins and minerals (because I am looking to get pregnant). I am never to concerned about the fat, but I average 40-60% a day and I have lost 20 pounds in less then 2 weeks so I don't think its a huge deal. I always eat a avocado sometimes 1 and a 1/2 if my body demands it and I snack on nuts and seeds here and there. I use olive oil about every other day or so sometimes as needed.

[robertandenith]

yes I like to use it also because it tells me the vitamins and minerals I take, I am not just going to pay attention to the other table anymore!

[gatorgrrl]

Yea I wish they had a raw foodiest fitday. There are alot of foods that I eat not in there so I have to do my best to cutomize it and there are a whole lot of figures I wish weren't on there.

[Brianna]

Yea I wish they had a raw foodiest fitday. There are alot of foods that I eat not in there so I have to do my best to cutomize it and there are a whole lot of figures I wish weren't on there.
Me too!!! The only sprouts they have listed are mung, soy, alfalfa, and lentil and a huge portion of my diet is sprouts. I get frustrated about that sometimes.

[Sharon in Colorado]

Sometimes when I don't eat optimally and not able to stop I think I may just be trading one addiction for another. The cooked for the dehydrated and high fat, especially if I can't stop eating like that and don't feel good. It can be difficult to get out of a rut of a certain way of eating, whatever it is. I think you just need to give yourself time, and play with different foods. Don't beat yourself up, but at the same time try to set a goal for yourself to attain.

[Sharon in Colorado]

I've heard about something called nutridiary which tracks all kinds of nutrients...I set up an account there but can't figure out how to use it for some reason.

[rawfigure]

I have a love hate relationship with fitday. I need to join a "fitday,com recovery program ". I started it 6 years ago religiously tracking my food and training. I gave it up when going raw, would check in once in awhile, BUT if I check in I will start again and I looged almost everyday last two weeks. HELP !!!

I thought about disabling it but the thought of losing my Journal I have there, the tought of it...boo hoo.

So I am thinking I need to find another place to Journal and say good bye to my last 6 years otherwise when I go to Journal I am tempted to just CHECK my food ratio's for the day.

I am sad to think I need to do this....but maybe rawtruth is right, misslinda too...I need to let go off that one last food obsession. Maybe I should sign off and go do it...oh I cannot, can I ???

Sigh...what to do...any advice for this sad fitday addict ? !

[misslinda]

I really really would encourage any of you who "track" to be courageous and allow yourself to be [free]. I know It's scary becuz we are so conditioned to use the the concept of "deficit" as a way to become leaner and healthier but if you really think about it, that fear is there--right? Does fear create a healthier you? I fought this one for such a long time and I can't believe what raw eating does!!!! :)

I never thought I could go without counting calories becuz quite openly, I have a 17 year history with anorexia and spent numerous hours counting couting and couting...........

I also never envinsioned being able to EAT and feel good, satifsfied and FREE by doing so.......

Imagine eating without spending any energy on wondering,thinking and calculating............you really can experience eating without limitations! ;)

[rawfigure]

:mad:
I really really would encourage any of you who "track" to be courageous and allow yourself to be [free]. I know It's scary becuz we are so conditioned to use the the concept of "deficit" as a way to become leaner and healthier but if you really think about it, that fear is there--right? Does fear create a healthier you? I fought this one for such a long time and I can't believe what raw eating does!!!! :)

I never thought I could go without counting calories becuz quite openly, I have a 17 year history with anorexia and spent numerous hours counting couting and couting...........

I also never envinsioned being able to EAT and feel good, satifsfied and FREE by doing so.......

Imagine eating without spending any energy on wondering,thinking and calculating............you really can experience eating without limitations! ;)


ah misslinda, you touch my heart. I want to experience that total freedom from this, not falling back to it from time to time. Raw has helped me to a certain degree but I am still hanging on to my old patterns.

I have been counting, weighing, calculating my intake and exercise output for 30 years now with little time off. Ah to be free.......
and I have 6 years at weightcommander.com too........graphs weight changes over time. YIKES !

Ok I am going to be couragous, and go do it.

I posted about online Journal's. I see you have yours here. You are brave. I have to wonder if I can write in a Public Journal beyond food and training.

I will feel like I told an old friend Goodbye forever, but on to new friends right ? !!!

Thanks for the encouragement. I am off to disable my fitday. :eek:
and delete my weightcommander.com ...ah freedom !!!!!!!!!!! :D :)

OK I am back I email fitday to disable and deleted the save password for weightcommander...it is gone now, no other record of it !!
Wow I feel Sad, boo hoo, I could cry...how stupid is THAT ?!!

[Lunar*Fey]

I, too, used fitday. This is because I am worried about making sure I get enough calories, nutrients, all that. And yet, while it does enable me to be reassured that I am getting everything I need...it also is like another food obsession. I am always entering in, and just "checking". I feel that I have to do it to make sure I don't lose any weight because if I do, it's goodbye raw and goodbye freedom, goodbye life...off to the hospital. But at the same time I hate it. I just want to be free and be able to listen to my body. But it seems my body lies to me...or rather I am just not listening carefully enough. I almost always want fruits fruits fruits lately. Sweet tooth? I don't know but today it was like whenever I was hungry I wanted fruit. Vegetables and fats simply didn't interest me...and yet I ate them anyway because I was tracking on fitday and because that old habit of having to eat a balanced diet each and every day. Oh gosh this is so hard, I hate it...when I first started raw I was so free...and now I've fallen too deeply into the hands of fitday.com

yikes.

[Sharon in Colorado]

I don't have a tie to fit day but I look at it as a mirror to see if my hair is out of place. I checked it a few times in my whole life, maybe less than 6, and it gave me an idea how much fat percentage can go up with a certain amount of food. I don't need it because I am aware of the nutrients I need to keep my eye on.

I really don't use it anymore because it got too complicated, and I'm too lazy to remember the exact measurements of everything I used in my smoothies and salads, especially the smoothies which I divide up between family members. And then to have to figure out the exact measurements of the dressing and enter it, it is too much of a bother to me.

So for the few times I used it, it gave me a bird's eye view of what my day looked like. That is important - it is like people who will take a lick and bite of bad food all day long and don't realize that it adds up - when you take a look at your totals it gives you a realistic look at what is going on.

It also makes me think of my hubby talking me into being filmed doing my kicks - when he finally did I see what a dork I looked like so now I work on improvement.

I think for those who feel addicted or drawn to it, there's definately a challenge there, but fitday is not "bad" in itself and I think it is silly to say that fitday is wrong in general, unless someone is obsessively using it as a couple of you say.

I would say that if it turns into an addictive bad habit, you need to cut off all ties to it. Block it or whatever you need to do to get away from it. It'll probably be hard the first few days like any addiction but it will get easier after that. That is what most of us do with cooked food, and coffee, and chocolate, cigerettes, etc. They are all addictions.

[veganman]

I track at FitWatch (http://www.fitwatch.com) and find that my fat intake is around 30%, but that my calorie intake is about 800 below what I want it to be. I am all for the eat what you want approach and to not worry about the calories, but if I do that, I get full very quickly and don't eat enough. I then lose weight and get depressed, anxious, and have very little energy.

I am tracking for now until I can get to the amount of calories and fat I need on a consistant basis.

[rawfigure]

Lunar*Fey ......I can see why fitday can have some value to you trying to get your intake UP. So that may be a good thing for you for now.

I on the other hand see my calories trending lower and lower to barely existence level..I say oh good...now that is really bad as I am running 4-6 miles a day. So I say goodbye to it.

On the good side of it you check in a say OH I must eat more ! So for you don't stress to much over fitday for now use it as the helpful tool it is to get those need calories IN.

Once you are in the right place wiith your diet and bodyweight you can wean off....

[Sunshine9]

Personally I don't worry about my fat intake as much. I try not to overeat nuts, but only because they aren't so hot for me to digest. i DO however worry about minerals, because who cares if i'm eating 100% raw if I'm not getting the minerals that my body needs. So while my percentage of fat might be higher, because I'm not eating a lot of calories in sweet fruit (which in general are low in minerals), I trust that i'm giving my body the right fuel that it needs through greens, superfoods, and fats.

I'm personally very turned off by the notion of counting calories, and stuffing myself full of 15 bananas, or two pounds of lettuce. That doesn't sound right for me, or natural. Some people do well with that type of diet though, so i'm glad the information is there for them. The only way to know what amount of fat is right for you is through trial and success.

Try this-- first thing in the morning eat a meal of just fruit. If within an hour or two you're hungry for something else, unsatisfied, or feeling unbalanced, you are probably somebody who metabolizes protein or fats better, and you can go from there. Don't worry about percentages. You could be eating 10% fat, 2000 calories, and getting only a small portion of the minerals that you need, so percentages don't mean a whole lot where it counts.

[gatorgrrl]

Mislinda I understand where you are coming from, but I think its a good idea to keep a check on yourself whether you are being balanced or not. You may be able to do that already for yourself, but some of us haven't reached that point yet.

Thanks for you help though Mislinda

[rawpriestess]

Well, I went to fitday, just to prove a point, and I wrote what I eat on a daily basis, and it says 38% fat, but if I were to eat double my pineapple, it goes down to about 29% fat, and yet I am eating way more food and calories.


I personally think this is all garbage.

first, I eat what I eat and I eat what I like, if I wanted to count calories, I'd be doing it, but eating raw isn't about counting calories and being on a diet, and feeling deprived, it's about eating for the rest of your life, without counting anything.

eating what your body tells you, you need is the way to teach your body that you are safe and that you have complete and total faith in your body.

checking in on yourself and counting calories and grams and percentages just makes you feel awful.

Now, if you want to know if you are getting the correct nutrients then sit down and ask your body what you need, or do muscle testing, or automatic writing, or whatever works for you, but personally I don't trust a website, that I can't put in how much I've eaten, I have to pick either 1 cup, or 1 almond, or 1 T or something like that.

since I am eating all raw foods, it's more difficult,

I actually went through an entire recipe and put it in there, and figured out how much of whatever I was eating when I was eating one burger patty, if I added white onion, lettuce and tomatoe, my percentages of fat went way down.

So, if your percentage is too high, just eat some fruits and veggies and recheck, as that will change your stats.

personally, I don't like to be bothered with all that stuff, I'm too busy to be counting calories and fat grams,

but to each his own.

I just don't think anyone will benefit by feeling badly because what they are eating isn't perfect based on some website's statistics.

[robertandenith]

Oh gosh this is so hard, I hate it...when I first started raw I was so free...and now I've fallen too deeply into the hands of fitday.com

You are doing a great thing Lunar*Fey!!! DON'T STOP USING IT! You have a different reason for using it and it works well for your situation!!!!

In the other hand, I can see how I shouldn't be using it. Because I want to LOSE weight, I am torturing myself by looking at those fat intake but I am going to NOT look at them only the Nutrient and Minerals which I am really worry about, I just opened up an account for my daughters too. I am going to watch my Nutrient and Minerals intake THAT'S IT!!! lol!

[misslinda]

, but I think its a good idea to keep a check on yourself whether you are being balanced or not. You may be able to do that already for yourself, but some of us haven't reached that point yet.



:) Absolutely Garotgrrl and not to discourage anyone to think that fitday is bad,wrong etc. I think the ultimate statement I failed to stress which is something I truly believe in........" We do have the knowledge and wisdom to keep ourselves in check without the reliance of physcial tools etc---we are the tool ;) "

[gatorgrrl]

Exactly Misslinda, I totally agree. We all have the power, but we have to train ourselves to listen to what are bodies are telling us. But when your body is screaming feed me addictive cooked food, the body is confused and needs help getting balanced. Fitday is a temporary crutch until you learn your body. But counting fat and calories and junk like that that is for the birds. Proper nutrition is key.

[Sharon in Colorado]

I forgot to mention another thing about fitday. I really think it rounds up the fat grams, as when I did enter a certain amount of bananas, it rounded up the bananas to a gram of fat each. That did not sound correct to me and I had heard through others that it was a little off.

So to those of you who are finding yourself using it on a regular basis, I hope you keep that in mind. It may tell you that you are consuming more fat than you actually are.

[gatorgrrl]

yes, I have found it not to be 100% accurate and have went in and cutomized mine. For example, sea vegetables have B-12 in them and it saids the is 0% B-12, so I adjusted mine to reflect the proper amount and have done this with many other things.