Water?

[SamL]

I would love to hear what people think of water quality.

I want to by a water distiller, thinking this is the purest cleanest way I can drink water without the cost of bottled water, which costs me $910:00 a year

OUCH! I didn't realise till I did the figures. I drink a $2:50 3lt bottle per day.

How do you drink water?

[misslinda]

Hey Sam,

this is probably one of the most important nutirents of our bodies and I am personally a big fan of PENTA water--I did some research on water filters and current known bottled waters and this research (couple of years ago) showed everything from arsenics, chromium levels and 200 other contaniments that exist in good ole bottled water. luckily, Penta goes thru rigorous levels of a patented "purifying" mechanism.........gosh i am paying $1.79 per 16 0z which is $$$ but worth it--however, i am not crazy about the dioxin from the plastic so there is some compromising there.

luv,
linda :p

[SamL]

Thanks for your reply, I hadn't even thought about the dioxin from the plastic. Interesting point.

You've made me think about my bottled water now! I think I will start to save for a water distiller, I really like the process and I'll only have to pay $$$ once.

I know there is distilled bottled water, but i'd heard all they do now is put some water softener in it :eek: and that's why the bottles are only in the laundry isle of the supermarket, for ironing needs.

I don't know how accurate this information is, I'd certainly feel better making my own.

[misslinda]

i know the whole plastic thing is hard to avoid--i've been slowly eliminating the plastic around me!!! OMG, the more i throw out....the more come in tupperware, toothpaste, blender, dehydrator, shoes blah blah blah.


in case anyone is wanting more info on Penta here is a link to its research and studies--sorry i'm biast. there is a US site but i C&P the first one listed.

http://www.teampenta.co.uk/research.htmlhttp://www.teampenta.co.uk/research.html


luv,
linda

[misslinda]

SamL in relation to the dioxins adn such, this is an intersting thread taht "askcassyfirst" started. Great info and actually everyone ought to take a peak--made my decision to stay raw much easier. :)

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1452

[caramba]

Was going to ask this exact same question Sam... I've read that distilled water is the only water you should drink..but isn't that what you put in your car radiator?

I like the idea of a benchtop ceramic filter unit (whatever they're called) with those little taps on them - can imagine the kids will drink much more water if they can pour it out of those little taps themselves - they certainly do in the doctors waiting room!

[SamL]

I hear 50% distilled water is the purest water to drink, the other 50% is negative.

From what I've read, the distilling process takes minerals out of the water, so therefore the water takes those minerals from our bodies.

It doesn't make sense to me.

I'm not sure how I can solve my water problem.

I'm not at all happy drinking bottled water for the rest of my life, I don't believe it's the purest source either.

I like to live as naturally as possible, but thinking about all the plastic around me could send me into a head spin :eek: I use plastic air tight containers and a dehydrator.

[misslinda]

Ya know this got me thinkin while I was soaking in the TUB.........need to filter my bathroom sink and shower......i'm thinking since the skin is the largest oragan to abosrb and excrete toxins (blah blah blah) then OMG more to change!

I found some helpful sites......
http://www.betterwayhealth.com/bottled-water.asp



http://www.intac.com/~mystic/pages/multbottle_tap.html
Avoid distilled water as it has the wrong ionization, pH, polarization and oxidation potentials. It will also drain your body of minerals. --quote from the site above.


luv,
linda

[rawjojo]

I personally use distilled water. I know all about the discussion of the minerals being gone from the water but I just try to make up for those mineral in other places. I personally fill 5 gallon bottles from a local distillery which does reverse osmosis and some other types of puricication too if you are interested in something like that. Look around in you area there is bound to be a pruification place locally for you. AND the bonus is that is so much cheaper (and convenient) than buying bottled and alot less plastic for the environment. I would like to not use plastic bottles either but with my cooler it is impossible to use glass. I fill up my entire jug for $1.50. It is so cheap because I fill it and haul it myself (good exercise) instead of them doing it for me.

Also, I tried the home distilling thing and did not have good luck. It could have just been a bad piece of equipment though. I had a lot of leaking and so therefore it was a total pain.

Hope this suggestion helps you out!
rawjojo

[heart_of_pomegranite]

i just bought a reverse osmosis filter. You can easily find them online for less than 300.00. In my opinion reverse osmosis is the most thorough and effective way of purifying your water.

happy drinking..
(water)

[misslinda]

Pomegranite, what brand do you use for the filter?

~L :)

[caramba]

IFrom what I've read, the distilling process takes minerals out of the water, so therefore the water takes those minerals from our bodies.


From what I've read I thought it only removedinorganic minerals from our body, which we can't use anyway??? Who knows??? I guess it's what makes you feel better...???

[RawGranny]

I installed a water filter on my faucet.

[askcassyfirst]

Just a thought...distilled water is hungry water. It will leach minerals, this is true. It is considered a cleanser, as it picks up stuff in your system. That is why many people will take it when cleansing, but also why people use it to clean car parts and stuff. There is a solution, many people, will just add liquid minerals back into the jugs. This way you have clean water, plus minerals.

I like trace minerals drops, as well as a few other products you can find in your health food store locally.

Perhaps this idea will help?

Cassy. :) :) :) :)

[Autumn]

I agree with Caramba. I've read in many sources that the only minerals leached from the body by drinking distilled water are inorganic minerals (which our bodies have no use for).

As far as plastic jugs go, supposedly you want your jug to have a number higher than 7 stamped on the bottom of it. Anything lower can reportedly leach plastic into your water.

[Rawist]

I just drink tap water or bottled water if I'm out. I don't know what distilled water is really, but it sounds processed or heated or something. Again, I'm just going for the spirit of this eating raw thing, just the simple stuff that God supplies, as it is. I need water now and then and the simplest, easiest place to access it is the tap. Bottom line is I'm comfortable with that and that's what counts. Don't give me water flavored with anything though, that would be incorrect eating for me, unless I put a piece of produce in it, like say a lemon. I don't even do that though, not comfortable with it. :o ;) :)


I would love to hear what people think of water quality. How do you drink water?

[SamL]

I've learned so much for different opinions here, thanks for your reply's.

I like the idea that distilled water is pure, it concerned me it leaches minerals from the body before I heard the idea it leaches inorganic minerals, this attracts me to the idea more.

I don't like the use of 'heat' but in a perfect world our water wouldn't have so many contaminants.

I use plastic also, what bothers me a lot is the amount of spring water bottles I take to the dump each month. All that plastic :eek:

[Elizabeth]

Hi Everyone.... :)

I use distilled water mainly....and some bottled waters.

Water is heated in nature..some underground in hot springs and then some is continually evaporated off of the earths surface and distilled and then falls in rain and forms dew drops from condensation.

There are no proteins in water to become denatured and no carbohydrates to be altered. I have never read anything that indicated that heated water was unnatural. I don't know that there is any water on the planet that we could know had never been heated. It has been through endless cycles of natural distillation....

I like the idea of distilled ..and I read the Bragg Book and others talking about its benefits and how it rids the body of inorganic mineral deposits....

I try not to worry too much about it though..and drink a variety of waters..sometimes even bubbly. :eek:

I have heard that using microwaved water is not healthful though. I was reading on a site yesterday and decided to not use the microwave to make my teas anymore. :)

You guys like to talk about interesting things.... ;)

[Allison]

I read somewhere (can't remember where) that distilled water changes the blood chemistry exactly the same way cooked food does (increases white blood cell count, maybe?). The article was actually on cooked food and just happened to mention distilled water also. If I find the article again, I'll post it.

We use reverse osmosis, because we have a well full of sulphur water.

Allison

[SimplyRawesome]

All I know is that when I asked my Naturopathic Doctor what type of water I should be drinking, he said "distilled". I was surprised and said, really? He proceeded to explain why, but I'll be damned if I can remember it now. :rolleyes:

[SamL]

I enjoyed reading your thoughts Elizabeth, it is the most natural process and happens all the time. Hot springs are also a very pure source of water.

I think I'm leaning toward distilled water, from the things I read, there's more for's than against.

Those against are very strong in their concern not to drink distilled water.

I'd like to know i've made the right choice.

Nutrimom, Its a shame you can't recall the reasons your Naturopathic Doctor gave, but I'm happy enough to know he endorses it.

It's interesting the idea that distilled water changes the blood chemistry.

[caramba]

A question for you Statesiders - do you have fluoride in the water over there? We do -apparently Aust. & NZ worldwide have the highest fluoride content in our water :eek:

I've been doing some 'research' on the Net and it seems that carbon filters etc will only get out organic impurities, and, of course, fluoride isn't (though chlorine is...my "learn as you go" chemistry lessons!). So reverse osmosis seems the best for getting rid of inorganics like fluoride...can't afford one of those systems yet...(sigh) back to square 1 !

[misslinda]

Allison, I keep running into that too about distilled water--having to do with the fact that Distilled does not have the correct PH level ....yahdedahdadah...........consequently puts in the body into acidosis.

If anyone is interested Dr. Joseph Merocla is well respected for his research and recommendations--here is some info on water. I lvoe his site for all kinds of health information. :)

http://www.mercola.com/nutritionplan/beginner_beverages.htm



~L

[nobletroll]

Ok this may sound crazy but there is some research that water, jest H2O can absorb energy, emotions, and such from the surrounding environment. It involves the way the water molecules are grouped in the water. The same structure of the molecule that makes ice less dense then water (usually the solid of a substance is more dense then its liquid state) makes the molecules form weak structures. When water is distilled all these complex structures are broken down. I’ve herd it recommend that distilled water be left in the sun for an hour or two to allow some of the suns energy reorganize the molecules, or maybe playing music.

Ok I know playing music to you water to give it a good mood my sound crazy. But I have read of a French researcher that was able to expose H2O to the low-frequency waves of the electromagnetic signals of the cells that where exposed to certain drugs, when this water was put into different cells they responded as if they where getting the drug. Water may be able to retain information in a way that current science dose not recognize, and if it dose we may interact with that information.

[Helen Of Tennessee]

I use Reverse Osmosis. With REverse Osmosis, it takes out the Flouride in addition to all the other stuff like clorine, etc.

Nutrimom - The doctor that told you to use distilled water (and that is what he uses), recommend Rainsoft (reverse osmosis) as his 2nd choice to me. I took that one :) It is VERY expensive. My unit cost over $3,000. I have purified water throughout the whole house and reverse osmosis at my kitchen sink.

http://www.rainsoft.com/

<>< Helen of Tennessee

[willow]

SamL - Do you have a recycling center to bring all your plastic to?

[deb]

I started to post a question about chlorinated water the other day but didn't.

This is scary stuff. Dr. Mercola said, "Additionally, thousands of tons of drugs are flushed down the toilet, and many wind up in your water supply, as most filtration plants aren't designed to remove them."

We moved into this house a little over a year ago. Before that, I had never lived in a house with chlorinated water (Except briefly when I was 18). In this last year, I have felt like my health has gone down, down down. Nothing dramatic but in little subtle ways. In my heart, I knew it was the water. I mentioned this to Terry and my mom a few months ago but I got this look like, "Another strange idea".

So, what he is saying is, besides the chlorine and floride, we're taking all these drugs that our city is expelling?!

Helen, I'm going to look into that system. Drinking water you can control (although I'm confused about which one now) but showering!

[caramba]

I have purified water throughout the whole house and reverse osmosis at my kitchen sink.


Sounds great Helen - that's what I'm going to get ....one day!

[SimplyRawesome]

Nutrimom, Its a shame you can't recall the reasons your Naturopathic Doctor gave, but I'm happy enough to know he endorses it.

I have an appointment with him on Tuesday, so I'll TRY to remember to ask him again. ;)

[SimplyRawesome]

Nutrimom - The doctor that told you to use distilled water (and that is what he uses), recommend Rainsoft (reverse osmosis) as his 2nd choice to me. Helen, did he tell you why he recommends distilled??? Just curious.

We do have some kind of filtration system on our drinking water, but not for the whole house. And sometimes the chlorine in the water smells so strong that it smells like bleach. A few times last summer I used the pool kit to test the house water and then compared the levels to our pool water. They were either the same or the house was less than the pool. When I lived in Florida though, there were many times that the house water had a higher concentration of chlorine than our pool! :eek:

Ya never know what you're drinking! :rolleyes:

[SamL]

Linda, that's one of the sites I visited on my quest for information, I haven't found too many other 'against distilled water' sites. He makes a lot of sense.

nobletroll, that's an interesting point of view, if the process of leaching minerals from water during the distilling process cause it to want to leach them back, it's interesting to think what a couple of hours in the sun would do. I'd love to see some research on that.

Willow, I used to live in a large city where recycling practices were even enforced, but work has brought me to a country town where the facilities just aren't in place.

deb, it's turning my stomach thinking about waste particles in my drinking water. I know I choose bottled water which brings about it's own set of problems, but my kids drink tap water, I really want to do something permanent so I can be confident we are all getting the nourishment we need from what should be free flowing, one of our basic needs, clean water.

Helen, I'm really interested too at that system your talking about, thank you for the site. I'd never before thought that water we use today is literally the same water that existed on the planet billions of years ago. Of course nature recycles water, it makes sense.

Distilling water is a very natural process that's happening in nature all the time.

[Helen Of Tennessee]

Hi Nutrimom,

Yes, he told me why he uses distilled water, but I certainly don't remember :rolleyes: I just know after reading a lot, I decided I didn't want to use distilled water and that's when he recommended RainSoft.

<>< Helen of Tennessee

[askcassyfirst]

You all were mentioning chlorinated tap water. I live in on the west coast of Florida, and there is WAY too much chlorine used in the tap water. My husband and I have filters on the taps, that use a 10 stage system...for all but the laundry and the bathroom sink downstairs...It is so strong, you can smell it on the clothes in the washer.

I recently learned that the system we have won't remove floride, which they are now adding here in our county. So, we buy spring water for drinking.

Oh for the days when we had well water...Our well water was a bit salty in the islands, but at least they weren't contaminating it with toxic chemicals. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Cassy.

[nobletroll]

The letting water set out in the sunlight came out of “the Sunfood Diet Success System” by David Wolf. I remember him saying he get distilled water delivered then lets it sit out of a while in the sun, I don't remember if he said why.

The experiment was out of “The Field” by Lynne McTaggart in the Chapter entitled The Language of the Cell. I highly recommend “The Field” it is not about raw food. It is how the vacuum energy field, a known by modern science measurable energy, may be the energy that makes up our life force energy. It is done with examples of “real” scientists doing “real” reacher that evidence led them to this information.

I have not read it but in a book club advertisement I got, the day after I posted the comment, there is a book “The Hidden Message in Water” by Masaru Emoto. In a part of the blurb it says “Dr. Masaru Emoto found that crystals formed in frozen water change in the presence of specific thoughts, either positive or negative.”

[SamL]

I'd like to read “the Sunfood Diet Success System” by David Wolf & “The Field” by Lynne McTaggart
Thanks for recommending the books.

[levamssg]

In the book "power juices Super drinks" by Steve Meyerowitz, he states:
"six grains of rice will turn one gallon of distilled water into a living mineral water". He suggests that we get our minerals from fresh fruit and vege juices, and that our diet is a far more substantial source of minerals and trace mineals than water.

I use a distiller. Sometimes I remember to add rice, sometimes not. What I'd like to find is a nice GLASS container to carry it in every day!
cheers
terry

[Autumn]

Terry,
Is stainless steel not good?

I've so much to learn!

[SamL]

"six grains of rice will turn one gallon of distilled water into a living mineral water".

I think I'll get a distiller, I want to read a couple of books but I'm leaning toward the purchase.

[SamL]

THere are a lot of conflicting views and research about water, scientifically water is a complete compound, The water doesn't need to leach minerals back, because the minerals in the water aren't actually a composition of the water. The composition of the water is H20 (2 hydrogens, 1 oxygen)
The chemical formula of water stays the same, even after distilling.

There is also a lot to read about the water leaching minerals back, I think I'd still be tempted to try the rice. I like the idea that distilling is close to nature, without the jet fuel vapours, smog, chemical gases (list is too long)

[SimplyRawesome]

Sam, I asked my ND again yesterday what type of water he recommended and he said, either distilled or reverse osmosis. I then asked him if it was true that distilled water leached minerals from our system. Well... he's such a sweetheart. He proceeded to give me a lesson in physiology or was that chemistry!?! Anyway, he said that distilled water does indeed remove minerals, but what it removes is dead calcium and dead minerals - what our body no longer needs. Hope this helps.

[Ireland]

Just regular brown organic?

[Mike]

Hello friends,

Distilled water that has been re-structured is the
best. I don't think it will leach minerals out of your
body. I have searched and haven't found any
evidence of this. Paul Bragg and Norman Walker both
drank distilled water and were in perfect health up
to very old ages (114 years for Norman!)

You don't want minerals in your water. You need
minerals in plant form, not in the form found in water.

Here are two excellent articles discussing the benefits
of distilled water->

http://www.treeoflife.nu/ewwater.html
Distilled Water By Dr. Gabriel Cousens

http://www.roaringlionpublishing.com/Merchant2/health_tip11_20_04.php
Distilled Water by Peter Ragnar