View Full Version : Honey, I have a question??
Mookie
04-25-2006, 06:38 PM
I noticed that some of the recipes require honey.
From everything that I have read, honey is not vegan.
Is that the consensus here?
Is honey ok or no ok??
sport
04-25-2006, 06:41 PM
Honey is not vegan but some seem to use it as it is considered healthy.
ryana
04-25-2006, 06:43 PM
Honey is not vegan and not respectful to the bees. To be honest it kinda annoys me when people concider themselves vegan eventhough they consume honey.
Spectatrix
04-25-2006, 06:49 PM
Honey is not vegan, but I understand that agave nectar can be substituted for honey most of the time.
Mookie
04-25-2006, 06:52 PM
Thanks guys for your replies. I will stick to agave nextar then....
I read somewhere where they said honey was essentially bee vomit...... eeeeewwwwwwww!!!!
:eek:
heabrook
04-25-2006, 08:00 PM
I read somewhere where they said honey was essentially bee vomit...... eeeeewwwwwwww!!!!
:eek:
You are on the right track. but it is not bee vomit........
Honeybees use nectar to make honey. The bees get nectar from flowers like clovers, dandelions, etc. They use their long, tubelike tongues to suck the nectar out of the flowers and they store it in their stomach (the stomach used for honey, they have two. One especially for honey). Honeybees visit between 100 and 1500 flowers in order to fill their honey stomachs, which hold almost 70 mg of nectar.
The honeybees return to the hive and pass the nectar onto other worker bees. These bees suck the nectar from the honeybee's stomach through their mouths. The house-worker bees "chew" the nectar for about half an hour. This process is done so that enzymes break down the complex sugars in the nectar into simple sugars that is both more digestible for the bees and less likely to be attacked by bacteria while it is stored within the hive. The bees then spread the nectar throughout the honeycombs where water evaporates from it, making it a thicker syrup. When the honey is gooey enough, the bees seal off the cell of the honeycomb with a plug of wax. The honey is stored until it is eaten. In one year, a colony of bees eats between 120 and 200 pounds of honey.
After all that work, would you like it if someone took away what you worked so hard to build?
Mookie
04-25-2006, 08:45 PM
So, another bee sucks the contents out of the nectar collector's stomach--
ok... I repeat eeewwwwwwwwwwww! LOL LOL LOL :D
heabrook
04-25-2006, 08:48 PM
Yes. So it is nectar, but it is passed from one bee to another bee and thus.......... honey is an animal product.
I wonder how many honey-eaters understand how honey is made.... and if they did know, perhaps they would not eat it?
JennaBoBenna
04-25-2006, 09:20 PM
Yes. So it is nectar, but it is passed from one bee to another bee and thus.......... honey is an animal product.
I wonder how many honey-eaters understand how honey is made.... and if they did know, perhaps they would not eat it?
I read a Goosebumps book called "Why I'm Afraid of Bees" when I was 8 and it tells how bees make honey, and at first I was like "ewww bee spit!" lol, but I love honey, and I love bees, and I still use honey. Agave just doesn't have that honey taste.
heabrook
04-25-2006, 09:26 PM
I read a Goosebumps book called "Why I'm Afraid of Bees" when I was 8 and it tells how bees make honey, and at first I was like "ewww bee spit!" lol, but I love honey, and I love bees, and I still use honey. Agave just doesn't have that honey taste.
You're right, agave doesn't taste like honey. But, I still really like agave. I never actually liked the taste of honey so I never miss the taste.
rawpriestess
04-25-2006, 10:41 PM
I have never cared for the taste of honey, except in a few deserts
But no honey is not vegan, however some people call themselves Beegan, and still eat honey, it is all a matter or your priorities and values.
sport
04-26-2006, 03:54 AM
But no honey is not vegan, however some people call themselves Beegan, and still eat honey, it is all a matter or your priorities and values.
If I went to the bookstore and bought a book of "Cooking for Beegans" then I would expect that honey would be used but I object to the fact that I can buy a book for Vegans and find honey used. I would have thought that the word should be out there by now. It is the product of a creature just as milk is.
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