Parallel Worlds-people Seeing Them

[misslinda]

I know some of you do see parallel worlds etc.

Please share your experiences with us! :)


.....I mean I see things that are not seen by the average person you talk to BUT it is there. It's not conventional but I'm not hallucinating either"

[Autumn]

I don't see parallel worlds, but I have often felt like I have slipped into one, but I'm not even sure you'd call it that. It's not deja vu, because I don't feel like lived it before or experienced anything regarding it before.

I'll be talking to someone, or doing something, just anything, and all of a sudden it's like I'm watching myself doing it, or talking, or whatever. I feel like I've stepped outside myself and can see me and the other person interacting, or just me working, etc. I can't control it, well a couple times I could *almost* bring it on if I concentrated hard enough.

Is that a parallel universe?

[Spectatrix]

I don't see parallel worlds, but I have often felt like I have slipped into one, but I'm not even sure you'd call it that. It's not deja vu, because I don't feel like lived it before or experienced anything regarding it before.

I'll be talking to someone, or doing something, just anything, and all of a sudden it's like I'm watching myself doing it, or talking, or whatever. I feel like I've stepped outside myself and can see me and the other person interacting, or just me working, etc. I can't control it, well a couple times I could *almost* bring it on if I concentrated hard enough.

Is that a parallel universe?
Sounds like spontaneous astral projection to me (or partial projection).

[Nenyath]

Well... Sometimes I feel them just under the surface, and I am very close to one, the one my soul feels the clostest too. My spirit guide is also from there, I feel more than see him around me from times to times.. This is an interresting topic!

Fly forever free..

[Amberly]

I love this subject, but it seems I never find the time to join the discussion.

Long before my experiences with astral projection, lucid dreaming, etc., I used to stare into my glass of milk (ick) and empty bowls, etc and feel as though I was seeing other worlds. Seems silly, but extremely enlightening.

I have seen/talked to 'other people' who do not exist on this plane. Interesting experiences that I hope to enjoy for a long time.

[misslinda]

Amberly and others that [see] people, why do you think we do and others do not?

I explained to my clinician that "You may not see them but I do." What makes one person able to and the other not?

[heabrook]

I think that it is because they are simply not open to it. They are not enlightened enough. <-- not degrading, just meaning that they haven't gone through their transition/transformation yet. Some people never reach an enlightened point, while others do.

Everyone makes their own choices. Some people believe that we map out every experience that we are going to have BEFORE we are born.

[misslinda]

Heabrook that I do believe but I started seeing them when I was young (I was very far from enlightenment :D )

Were any of you scared for the first time encounter?

[PATH301]

heabrook,

I think that it is because they are simply not open to it. They are not enlightened enough. <-- not degrading, just meaning that they haven't gone through their transition/transformation yet. Some people never reach an enlightened point, while others do.

Everyone makes their own choices. Some people believe that we map out every experience that we are going to have BEFORE we are born.
I'm sure you've heard the story about the ham?
Well like that story alot of people just accept whatever is told them by parents and friends and pastor's or clergy and never question the truth / lie that they've been told. Thus some will never get to the awakening stage.

misslinda,
How old were you when you saw them/ the other worlds?
Because children and animals are more opened to it then others are. Also some have been given a gift/ debt, depends on how you look at it or understand it. My sister also saw things when she was younger and it scared her. She no longer sees anything. I have a friend of mine who can see things as well, plus she can also see the auroura,(sp?) around people - she saw a white globe and auroura around me, that's 2 people so far who have seen this. Plus she saw green and blue around my friend one night as we all had dinner one time.

[Nenyath]

I think it depends on how accepting you are towards it, it's all in the mind from how I see it, the whole world is an illusion which I create every day, it is all in belief. All is energies to me too and they are all vibrating. Some vibrate at very hight frequencies, others at lower (these energies is love). I beileve we are all able to see them, but we have to accept these other energies exists as well, else we will unconciously ignore it. It has pretty much to with the fact that most of us have grown up with a mindset of "I won't believe until I see", well, in this case I can't show you unless you believe ;) Thats my view on it anyway..

Fly forever free...

[Amberly]

I agree with the above answers. Also, I think it has to do with whether the energies in the body are in a state that allows for it. Before I ever saw anything, I began to feel my chakras spinning and vibrating (saw the third eye chakra from behind, that is from behind my eyes, also saw the silver cord). At the time I didn't even know what a chakra was.

I think the activity that went on there has facilitated me.

One of the people that I saw was a Franciscan Monk. He guided me through a catacombe when I asked to see a past life. Again, I only realized it was a Franciscan Monk when I described him to a friend. That was before I was an Art History major and actually studies monks and catacombs.

[Green Life]

Hi!


This is an interesting subject. Linda, when you see these people, where are they? Are they always in the same place every time, or are they in different places each time you see them? Do they talk to you? Do you go places with them?

My girfriends' Brother talked to himself all the time, like there was someone in the room with him, but there wasn't anyone there. It was frightening for her when she couldn't see the other person he was talking to. Do you talk to them?

Thanks for sharing with us!


Green :D Life

[misslinda]

Hi!


This is an interesting subject. Linda, when you see these people, where are they? Are they always in the same place every time, or are they in different places each time you see them? Do they talk to you? Do you go places with them?

My girfriends' Brother talked to himself all the time, like there was someone in the room with him, but there wasn't anyone there. It was frightening for her when she couldn't see the other person he was talking to. Do you talk to them?



Green :D Life

Path I was around 9-10 yrs old when I first saw a woman behind our house--in the yard---scared me!!!!!!!!!

Green Life, it is all random. They or usually it is a he will be randomly places. I can also feel the presence. I also have spirtual being encounters as well which I am able to distinctly differentiate. One stands behind the chair I use to sit on in therapy session.

As far as the people I am always cuaght off guard and become frightened so I ignore them usually.

I also see other rooms--ex: a victorian style room with a chandelier and high rise celings,spiral staircase.....it's not "visualizing" per se or thinking its actually seeing it

---I hate it b/c when I close my eyes, I feel like I never sleep.

I often feel like I'm being watched -- :confused:


....and no, I am not hammered tonite! :D

[SparklePlenty]

Miss Linda, a woman I know who's had similar experiences, figured out that she's a sort of "traffic cop" for those who've passed over but either don't realize that they have died, or who, for some reason, want to stay on the earth plane. She reminds them that they are no longer living on the earth plane, helps them to see the light and their loved ones, and then urges them to 'go into the light' thereby releasing them from their earthly ties.

I have had experiences similar to yours but much more low key and sporadic. ANd like you I know they weren't 'just' thoughts but really peeking thru the veil that usually separates states of consciousness.

Have you asked your Inner Guidance/Higher Self why you have been given this ability and what,if anything, you are being asked to do with it? This ability is no doubt one that was developed over lifetimes and is a gift you chose before entering this current lifetime. Bless it and keep walking with the question about what purpose it is serving for you, since everything we bring with us into a lifetime serves only the purpose of our growth and spiritual evolution.

Hugs
Jan

[karenisraw]

I had a friend who said she swears she had a ghost in her house. She said it moved a plant on her table.



k
:)

[misslinda]

:) Sparkleplenty, I meditated/prayed last night about it. How did you determine your stat?

:) Karen, wouldn't that have been funny if the whole house was re-arranged over night :p

[karenisraw]

ML,

That would have been very funny.

LOL

k
:)

[WingedSpirit]

Interesting topic. I've always had a lot of experiences but well over half I have to presume are true. Because quite simply I have no memory of them. Those were mostly as a child. Once in the midst of a serious conversation my grandparent's were having as I visited according to them I turned around, said "That's inconsequential." this was in context, and then went back to being a kid. I was about three.

Another time was when we were moving to St. George Utah and exploring the school..I started apparently to get very agitated upon seeing the library (my favorite place) and other areas because they were WRONG. When I started demanding to see the kids and where were they...well long story short apparently I remembered the original layout of the school when it was founded and how they dressed..right down to the games back then. Again, kindergartner/firstgrader. No idea of this stuff. No memory either. Happened again in a house that used to be a playground with my cousin, both of us knew the area.

I've always had spirit guides and encounters. Most the time they aren't scary, sometimes they are. I've always had dreams that were prophetic or so vivid I would wake up tired, injured (a few times) or disoriented as something had occured in dream time that was true to how it would occur later..but no one else knew why I was behaving in a way. (such as reading books that didn't exist, or emails and conversations that were never in reality but true to who would say them and how).

Most often though, I get 'feelings'. People walk in and I know if they are okay or hurting, dangerous or not. I see things all the time or at least can tell what i would see if they were manifested. I dislike certain areas for no reason and find out later there's perfectly good ones. My most recent feeling though was when I met my good friend Danielle's boyfriend. Had a bad feeling despite that everything she said was good about him, and he'd been spoiling her. I took one look at him (wrote it in my diary that night too) that he was bad news, and going to break her heart soon.

Two days later she finds out he's having an affair, and she's the affair! I spent that night consoling her.

I could go on for a long time as there's been a ton of experiences. But usually yes I hear voices, I get messages that aren't heard by anyone else, and my brother comes to me for help when he starts getting issues with the same thing. I'm comfortable with it all. Didn't mean for this to be such a long post.

[GratefullyGreen]

I don't know what kind of experience this is, but lately I have been feeling like my body is not my own? I have an overwhelming sense that my spirit is in complete control, its kind of cool because my body has changed drastically. Meaning that I have no more bruises and such because i'm so careful not too damage this property thats not mine lol. Better posture, weight loss, etc. People stare, and I get a lot of compliments that i'm not used to so I generally blow them off, (but on the inside i'm jumping for joy because I feel so beautiful) I don't want to be cocky, although I find myself sometimes walking around giving off that impression. In reality I just want to HELP EVERYONE, I look at people everywhere and I just want to give them a hug and tell them how I can help make their life better with raw foods. Most people seem content with their lives so I don't know why i have this intense desire to council and LOVE EVERYONE. hehe I don't know if i'm making any sense....blah blah blah i just feel like someone else is always in control, someowhere along the way I lost my old self...its weird when not just other people notice that you have changed. I can't even be the person I used to be. BIZARRE. I don't know if any of u have any thoughts.

Love and Abundance friends,

sincerely Ashley :)

[PATH301]

NO WAY - THAT'S EXACTLY HOW MY STUFF WORKS TO!!!!

WingedSpirit,

Most often though, I get 'feelings'. People walk in and I know if they are okay or hurting, dangerous or not. I see things all the time or at least can tell what i would see if they were manifested. I dislike certain areas for no reason and find out later there's perfectly good ones. My most recent feeling though was when I met my good friend Danielle's boyfriend. Had a bad feeling despite that everything she said was good about him, and he'd been spoiling her. I took one look at him (wrote it in my diary that night too) that he was bad news, and going to break her heart soon.

Two days later she finds out he's having an affair, and she's the affair! I spent that night consoling her.

I could go on for a long time as there's been a ton of experiences. But usually yes I hear voices, I get messages that aren't heard by anyone else, and my brother comes to me for help when he starts getting issues with the same thing. I'm comfortable with it all. Didn't mean for this to be such a long post.

At one time when I was doing alot of college mission work - we would have these cell / bible / social meetings and I could fell the whole flux of emotions from all the people there. If I talked to each one individualy I could tell what was going on with them.
If I was at an event or just anywhere and some one walked into the room I could tell imediatly if the were a bad / dark spirit. I could see their moving dark shadow like spirit.

[gatorgrrl]

there are angels and there are demons. The dead do not hang around as spirit, rather the dead are asleep in death.

[PATH301]

gatorgrrl,
What do you think about this:
Jude 1:12 (KJV)
These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;

[gatorgrrl]

what point were you trying to make.

[PATH301]

gatorgrrl,

there are angels and there are demons. The dead do not hang around as spirit, rather the dead are asleep in death.
Could you clarify this for me, according to what? Is this what you have experienced? or where did you get this info from?

[rawlee]

Path301.....It's interesting that you're having this spiritual discussion because when I first saw your sign-in pic, I thought you had angel wings on! The arch design behind your left shoulder looks like an angel wing and if you just look fast, the flash of light behind your right shoulder balances it out! So everytime I see you post I think, oh there's the angel!! :)

[RowanC]

I believe that there is no past, present, or future.

I believe it's all happening at the same "time" and that depending on the rate our molecules are vibrating, we experience things.

I believe that "death" is simply the spirit's rate of vibration speeding up. The physical body's molecules sloooow down as the physical body dies... and the spirit is released because it is no longer held down by the physical, it vibrates faster and faster, becoming such that it can escape the physical body and become invisible. Just like water becomes invisible when it boils and turns to a faster vibration in steam, which you cannot see. The water is still there. It's molecule is just vibrating faster.

I believe this is why we sometimes can see or sense our dead relatives, who really haven't gone anywhere at all. They're still here, they're just vibrating at a higher rate and unless we are sensitive, we can no longer sense them.

I'm not sure why these things are.. and notice I did not say I KNOW them.
I simply believe them to be true.

I have slipped into a "window" of time more than once in my life.
Sometimes it can be simple... other times absolutely incredible!

[Vegan Diva]

Most often though, I get 'feelings'. People walk in and I know if they are okay or hurting, dangerous or not. I see things all the time or at least can tell what i would see if they were manifested. I dislike certain areas for no reason and find out later there's perfectly good ones. My most recent feeling though was when I met my good friend Danielle's boyfriend. Had a bad feeling despite that everything she said was good about him, and he'd been spoiling her. I took one look at him (wrote it in my diary that night too) that he was bad news, and going to break her heart soon.

Two days later she finds out he's having an affair, and she's the affair! I spent that night consoling her.


I get these experiences each time I meet someone even if someone would pretend to be one way I could read them by their vibes and know they were lying. I thought, for the longest time, that others had these "feelings" also.

When my brother and I were children we saw different people. My parents told us we were imagining things. My daughter, who is three, started seeing things at the age of two. Her first person was a man she called, “Mr. Funny Mouth” She used to speak of him often since he was always around. He has not been around in a while.

I think many people don’t like thinking of the unknown so they try to rationalize. Oh something must be wrong with them. They’ve been drinking, they take too much drugs, they’re unhappy, etc.,
I don’t drink or do drugs and I’m very happy with my life.

[misslinda]

Whoah, I fogot about this thread.

Lately, I have been experiencing being in another time/existence at the same time of being here............if that makes sense. I am living a parallel life..........I can see in color the place,who is in it and what is around me like it is right now but "there." It's my abrupt fear that takes me away........sound familiary to anyone? :)

[berrymarymac]

My great grandmother had premonisions all the time. In the 70s she stopped suddenly and stared straight ahead and informed the family that wars would not destroy the earth but drugs will. And now it's true! My mom's side is mostly Cherokee while my dad's is European. But my mom dreams about things and they come true sometimes or she has "feelings" about something and it usually happens. I have dreams that sometimes come true, but that's about it. Very facinated by this thread though! We also have some psychics in our family, all on my mom's side. It skips generations from the look of things.

[Coriander74]

What an absolutely powerful and beautiful thread :)

I've always sensed things, feelings or people, and have had two experiences where I feel I either winged over into a parallel life or they're past lives. Extremely soulful and emotional.

I'm also of Cherokee heritage on my mother's side... and I feel that calling to me often, as if I somehow belong in the woods speaking another language.

Thank you so much for this thread :D

[GreenPrince]

I sometimes have strong experiences in a rare, advanced dream consciousness or the hypnagogical state between sleep and awakening. It was years ago now, this must be a coincidence but I discovered this thread today. In the beginning of this week I emailed Uri Geller (I know him a little, little, but we are very seldom in contact). It was late and I went to sleep. When I had slept one our, Uri replied to my letter but I did't know it.

That night I woke up several times during six hours by ”extra-dimensional beeings” standing and looking at me, small groups and solitary beeings. Friendly and supporting. I felt they were courious and interested of the important changes I am doing in my life right now. It was a nice experience.

[Graciebeliever]

I have done message therapy for almost 25 years
In that time I have felt, seen and absorbed many things.
Without going into great detail there have been people that hold so much energy and when I have the chance to "tune" into it, it is an amazing thing.
I can see/sense everything inside them. I see the areas that need work and release, we transfer energy from one to another and it "clears" energy paths, and we both walk away totally CHARGED with positive energy, if that makes sense.
The thing is, the harder I try for it, the farther it slips away. I have to unthink and undo the control and allow it to happen. I used to do energy work on my husband (divorced now) but there were times when he would go from being totally relaxed (say 11pm after a full days work) to having to get up and work because of the energy. He said it was like 9 hours of sleep.

I used to sit in church (a very high energy place for me) and I would look at people and I could reach out with my energy and see inside them (meaning feel their essense. There have been times when I could have walked up to a stranger and because I felt in them overwhelming sadness or hurt I wanted to touch them and release it. *sigh* so much unexplained but real and there.

I have never tried to find any explination to any of this because I feel that too much study and information might just ruin what I have. I just take it as it happens and enjoy it

A side note, over the years of bad SAD eating my energy has slipped farther and farther and now on RAW it is back full blazes and then some!!
I actually hold my fruit and veggies and look for the energy in them. the ones that don't feel right, I don't buy and the one's that feel extra good can call me from the far side of the produce department!! hehe

My hands just hummm with energy sometimes :)

Sorry hadn't anticipated blurting all this out.
All I know is I want to do more of it!

P.S. Read up and came back to edit this

My Father's grandmother was Oklahoma Cherokee and he told me that she used to give him herbs and rub him with stuff she would pick from the yard and say things to him that he didn't understand.
I don't remember her :( SOOO wish I could have known her

[gothgrrl]

I believe that there are various places of existence. That the past, present and future can cross sometimes.
There have been many accounts of people stepping into the past, through a vortex or gateway. One that comes to mind, is about 2 older ladies who were visiting Paris and seemed to have stepped through a gateway to pre-revolutionary Paris. It all was very real to them. If I can find the story on-line I'll post a link to it. They were never disproved or accused of being loony, so that speaks volumes to me.

hugs
Jo

[berrymarymac]

My great-great aunt I believe was in the Trail of Tears...she traveled from Georgia to Oklahoma (where my mom was born). We came back and my mom grew up here. It's odd that we have come back to our native home from that part of the family. Whenever we go to the mountains, I feel very intuned with nature. I love it!

[pamojamo]

People at my office see a male and a female. "Back in the day" when I first started working at the organization, I would hear stories all the time. Then as we grew and had more employees, I stopped hearing the stories. But a few weeks ago, I became aware of that some new employees who had not heard the original stories were seeing the same to "visitors." We have members of our cleaning crew who refuse to be in our building alone at night. While I have not seen anything, I once heard silverware rattling in the office kitchen. I walkd over to say good morning to whoever was at that area, and no one was there. By the way, our building sits on the sight of a former Civil War prison.

[lane]

i talk with my spirit guides often and have learned so much from them! i do see and hear other souls on the "other side" but usually only in the early morning hours- they are more irritating than anything...and sometimes frighten me with their "closeness." I have had "mental conversations" with my grandfather who "passed on" several years ago- and that was interesting- we mostly talked about how different it is there- and his concern for the people he "left" here- making his departure difficult.
path, i, too, get feelings from people the second i meet them- and i tend to "take on" the feelings of other folks...which makes being in crowded places a bit stressful.
my guides have talked about how we plan our lives- with our goals and experiences- with a counselor before we come here...these plans are actually a paper- i've seen the file, though i couldn't read through it..too bad, it would be so helpful :rolleyes:
cc

[codajess]

I talk to myself outloud a lot. And the tv and radio. That's the extent of it.

[misslinda]

I realized that when I am closing by myself at work at night, I always catch a glimpse of a man. I literally see him moving and I can feel his presence distinctly.........I often wonder what he wants as I have not been comfortable enought to confront him but I can feel him closer and closer. :eek:

[abundancia2007]

I know some of you do see parallel worlds etc.

Please share your experiences with us! :)


Ugh had a bit of experience with my therapist after discussing this. He asked if I see things or hear people etc. I responded by saying "What do you mean by seeing people?.....I mean I see things that are not seen by the average person you talk to BUT it is there. It's not conventional but I'm not hallucinating either"

and I [know] this was a red flag to him. :eek: :rolleyes: :o

I am able to enter parallel worlds/other dimensions and see, hear, touch, taste, in these other worlds, if I meditate by looking into my third eye, while my lifestyle is raw food. If I go back to SAD, then I lose this ability, and lose the ability to dream. I think it is a completely natural ability to see into other dimensions but because so many people have a low vibration they have no idea of what really exists... they just say it doesn't exist because they have not experienced it. I backed off of meditating for awhile though because in a period where I was looking for work, and very stressed and fearful, then the astral experiences became very unpleasant and frightening. I didn't want to view or hear the spiritual influence around me during that period, so stopped meditating. I am just starting up again in the last few days, as it is entirely fascinating, and my life is steady and peaceful, my employment is steady, and my vibration is high through peace, love, and raw food.
Most people I know are very religious and attribute anything they don't understand - to demons and the devil - so my fascination with the paranormal, parallel worlds, other dimensions, is something I have to keep carefully hidden.

abundancia2007

[mershwista]

What methods or practices do you all use to experience these things? I have heard it is possible through meditation, but I can't say I've ever had such an experience on just that.

[Elizabeth]

This is not something I did on my own, but once, I had a soul retrieval with a woman who was a shaman. She said that she travelled to these other levels or universes and saw me, at different times in my life. I was amazed at some of the things she knew, very specific things, which she would have had no reason to guess. Like..mentioning ballet slippers..when I am almost 6'2"lol..and an unlikely candidate for ballet lessons..or a discarded stethoscope indicating abandoned interest in medicine...also more..too personal to write about in this venue.. :-) The purpose was to retrieve these bits and pieces of self that had been stolen/abandoned at times in my life when I was unable to protect myself from other peoples aggression...

Have any of you had any experiences involving this sort of thing? I have a tape of it..it was done about 13 years ago, and I am crying as she tells me the things she saw..because they were all so relevant. I have been thinking off and on of doing something like this again. Any info. from you all would be appreciated...

:)

[mershwista]

Can't say I have personally...this sort of thing fascinates me, though, especially because my frighteningly accurate intuitions about people lead me to believe I must have some latent psychic ability. I get "predictions" about people from time to time, and they're always accurate and completely unprompted. I've predicted everything from the fact that someone I just met was sexually abused as a child to exactly what my ex was doing when he was cheating on me.

[rawsurfer]

one thing to clear up real quick, negativity vibrates at lower frequencies, and love and enlightenment at the highest, which are only the highest in this physical world; the source of all life vibrates at much higher frequencies, but our bodies cant contain that.

misslinda, have you ever tried talking to these people you see? they very well could be your spirit guides or guardian angels. some people see them and others dont just based on their oppenness and connectedness with the source. i would encourage you to check out this website erinpavlina.com ; she has a lot of stuff to say about all this, as she is a psychic medium. there are articles on chakra clearing, meditation, astral projection, lucid dreaming, and much more... i started reading her stuff after being directed there from her husbands site, stevepavlina.com. after being a reader of his site for over a year, i had no choice but to believe what she had to say since steve had already helped me so much. these people have much wisdom to offer. coming across her site is the best thing that has ever happened to me, besides eating raw food and before that getting sober... it has started me on a spiritual journey unlike any i could possibly imagine. there is much more to life than what we perceive with our 5 physical senses. anyone wanna talk more about this stuff let me know it is my passion. after all how could attaining enlightenment not be? anyways thats enough talk. peace

[hypnocmt]

Interestingly, communion with spiritual reality is linked to a deactivation of an area in the neocortex.

Experiments have been done to check into similar neurophysiological changes as they may affect certain varieties of schizophrenia characterized by "hallucinations" (but who knows, really, what these folks are experiencing? Who's to say?? ;) )

The first thing I thought of upon reading Elizabeths post on Soul Retreival, is a method of treatment I use called "ego parts therapy" in which we seek out ill-expressed or fractured facets of the self which are characterized by their link to specific events, social imprints, and specialized protective functions within the psyche. they take on very distinct personalities in the hypnotic trance, and we work to help them express their function and guide the client toward resolution of any lingering issues to which the part is linked. Importantly, we NEVER seek to destroy or banish a part, as that would be harmful to the self, potentially. Rather, we re-task it and reframe all events it may have strong links to. Mos imprtantly, we validate it and then reintegrate it with the greater whole.

reuniting a fractured Self is profoundly healing.

I wonder if soul retrieval might be a little super-intuitive healing and ego-parts therapy combined?

Or is the hypno work a way of viewing "soul parts" thru the filter of ego-parts, and metaphors more palatable for the general public?

Who knows? I don't think it matters. The mind is certainly beng proven to be separate and distinct from the brain-machine. NO matter what you call it, it just wants to feel accepted and at home with it's many parts.

Many forms of meditation/prayer are capable of deactivating the part of the brain I spoke of earlier. With practice. this is probably one of the easiest ways to perhaps experience that mega-multi-dimensional reality folks spoke of here.

FUN!

[michigan roman]

i have never had any sensations of contact with a spirit world or a past before my current body , but it is my hypothosis that our souls / conciousnes are eternal and very very much older than our current bodies but from this state we cant recall our past . and we always havent dwelled in human body types , we at earlier stages of our evolution existed as less complicated body types like the souls now existing as worms , fish , cattle and deer etc are . and the sooner a soul masters the physical laws of the universe the sooner it shall develop / attain an eternal body state and forever more exist as exactly what it chooses without having to go through the death and development of new bodies again . and we all arent evolving at the same rate . some shall take say 90 more body spans til they master the physical laws of the universe and attain an eternal body and some may need 10 more , and some may just get there this body span . i dont know exactly if this is pertinent to this thread but it at least vaguely touches on the topic . i guess its stating my belief in an undetectable to me from my current position spirit world .

[mershwista]

MR, I'm with you there, except for a few spontaneous lucid dreams. I've never seen any spirit guides, but I am sure that the absurdly accurate intuitions I get from time to time about people are from something like that. I am trying now to will myself to lucid dream, and once I learn to do that, I suppose I will go from there to find a logical next step.

[eatyourbroccoli]

Can't say I have personally...this sort of thing fascinates me, though, especially because my frighteningly accurate intuitions about people lead me to believe I must have some latent psychic ability. I get "predictions" about people from time to time, and they're always accurate and completely unprompted. I've predicted everything from the fact that someone I just met was sexually abused as a child to exactly what my ex was doing when he was cheating on me.

i experience this, also. ive been like this as long as i can remember. i always "know" what people are thinking/feeling/their intentions..it created a lot of discomfort when i was young as i grew up in a very superficial community where people pretend to be nice to your face, and then talked behind your back - but i always knew their true intentions and what they were saying. i dont know how. and it wasnt just insecurity, as i happened to like myself very much :D also, when i was 12 years old, i was the first one to find out about my fathers affair. i just "knew" and remember crying to my friends about it because i didnt know what to do. i wasnt close to my mom, and felt as though telling her it somehow would have been my fault. 2 years later on the day she found out, i "knew" this too..though she did a very good job of keeping it from me and my brothers for another year, at least. i also remember my father talking to some woman at my soccer game when i was about 13, and just from standing on the soccer field looking over to my dad and seeing him talk to this woman (who could have been anyone..another parent from the other team, even..), i knew it was his mistress. of course a couple years later when everything was put on the table and i met her as my dads new wife, it was her.

my intuition is very, very strong. i also hear my spirit guide (who i call my me-voice, as i think its my higher self) VERY clearly correcting my thought pattern sometimes..enlightening me with a different perspective (that i was previously unaware of) or reminding me of why something is really not that bad. i tell my boyfriend this, and he thinks im crazy. he called me schizofrenic (sp?) once, even. but nope..its my me-voice and i hear it very clearly.

lets seee..i also went through a good month long period of being able to see auras. and then it just stopped. i dont know what was up with that, but im sure the ability will return when my mind is less focused on my health.

oh, and its not unusual at all for me to most definitely see something in my peripheral vision, and turn to look directly at it and it be gone. i also see objects vibrating/wiggling a lot in my peripheral vision, and then turn to see that - no - theyre sitting still. this leads me to believe the "this is all an illusion" belief.

all of this stuff is so cool, and so fascinating.

ok i know this is long already, but i just have to add since in another thread weve been discussing UFOs..

supposedly in area-51 since roswell there have been ETs living there/spending time there. the government interviews these ETs through the use of a telepath, as they only communicate telepathically. the US governments intentions in these interviews are mainly focused on the extraction of advanced technology from these beings (mainly for warfare because we are innate, brutal, embarassing grunts..), as they obviously are far ahead of us given the fact they traveled here in the first place. the difficulty is, however, that the ETs success in communicating such advanced science to beings of our intellectual status is seldom attained...itd be like trying to explain calculus to your dog and your dog understanding it; its just too beyond our realm of understanding. they are, however, able to communicate information regarding spirituality rather easily (similar to how youre able to spiritually connect with your dog through petting him). the main message they continuously convey is: our bodies are vessels that allow our souls to experience this particular life, our soul is eternal, our soul moves to a new vessel after death (reincarnation), death is nothing to be feared.

cool concept, huh?

[mershwista]

Very cool indeed...I wonder then why it is so difficult to learn to develop these abilities.

[misslinda]

* are we really safe * ;)

I've seen the thread popup a few times lately and pondered on the latest encounters etc.

Eilzabeth, your experience reminds of one that my sis had years ago. We were attending a "reading" event at a local metaphsical expo. At that time, my sister was heavily into the frensh language--everything had to do with french. Anyway, the ladies that were conducting the reading

*taped session * told here that she was once a French woman name Clara and owned a French bread/bakery shop. Those are the few details I recall....there was more as I remember my sister going into tears. there was no pre-interview session for these woman so the information was based on them at the time of meeting.

Hmmmm, I do know that while meditating, I wil have a male voice intervene--he is somewhat comical in tone but I can feel his presence around. I also believe he may be "trapped" in other words, he lives the parallel world as ME but in a male body. Like we are tyring to mesh into one and be FREE.........then I start to think, perhaps the balance of the feminine and masculine sides is what is taking place...........

there are alot of you that stated that you can feel,know and predict another's actions,feelings,intensions etc.........that is my life everyday,moment and second. At times I feel overhwelmed yet still learning to manage and properly use them.

going back, I'm still haveing those eye issues. When I close my eyes at night, I can see thru them......I see other rooms, it's light,furniture etc......I can feel the onset of theme,information but my mind says "hey I wanna sleep"

Anyone know what I mean????

[misslinda]

EYB, your childhood multi sensory abilities are very similar to mine.

Curious, are you lefty or righty?

[mershwista]

* are we really safe * ;)

I've seen the thread popup a few times lately and pondered on the latest encounters etc.

Eilzabeth, your experience reminds of one that my sis had years ago. We were attending a "reading" event at a local metaphsical expo. At that time, my sister was heavily into the frensh language--everything had to do with french. Anyway, the ladies that were conducting the reading

*taped session * told here that she was once a French woman name Clara and owned a French bread/bakery shop. Those are the few details I recall....there was more as I remember my sister going into tears. there was no pre-interview session for these woman so the information was based on them at the time of meeting.

Hmmmm, I do know that while meditating, I wil have a male voice intervene--he is somewhat comical in tone but I can feel his presence around. I also believe he may be "trapped" in other words, he lives the parallel world as ME but in a male body. Like we are tyring to mesh into one and be FREE.........then I start to think, perhaps the balance of the feminine and masculine sides is what is taking place...........

there are alot of you that stated that you can feel,know and predict another's actions,feelings,intensions etc.........that is my life everyday,moment and second. At times I feel overhwelmed yet still learning to manage and properly use them.

going back, I'm still haveing those eye issues. When I close my eyes at night, I can see thru them......I see other rooms, it's light,furniture etc......I can feel the onset of theme,information but my mind says "hey I wanna sleep"

Anyone know what I mean????

I know a little bit what you mean...although I cannot claim at all that my abilities in that regard are anywhere near where yours are. Oftentimes I will lie awake with my eyes open and never know if they are open or shut or when I have transitioned from real world to the world of dreaming.

[rawsurfer]

go to erinpavlina.com

she is amazing and will be able to answer a lot of your questions

[misslinda]

I know a little bit what you mean...although I cannot claim at all that my abilities in that regard are anywhere near where yours are. Oftentimes I will lie awake with my eyes open and never know if they are open or shut or when I have transitioned from real world to the world of dreaming.

LOL, sometimes I get so frustrated, I start squeezing my eyes real tight, pull blankets over my eyes etc to find out :p

Come to think of it, several years ago, having been put thru the MRI machine with a eye pad, I amost freaked b/c even with the pad, I could still see and then the "HUMMMMMMMMMMMMM" and narrowness of the machine got to me :D

[hypnocmt]

if you guys have read anything much about synesthesia?

[misslinda]

if you guys have read anything much about synesthesia?

brb going to google !!!!

[hypnocmt]

The man who tasted shapes.


guessing that a growing understanding of phenomena like that will help us understand how peeks into possible parallel dimensions might be possible.

[misslinda]

LOL, I'm gonna go C-R-A-Z-Y !!!! INteresting Hypnocmt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I googled synethesia....OMG, I can identify with those traits quite well-- this is how I function. I have to wonder if or how does one determine if it is subconcious associatons or actual "cross wirings?"

I remember really noticing these traits in high school when studying for exams. I would "see" certain symbols and shapes for words/phrases......I recall memorizing a 40 line poem in 20 minutes ( 4.0 was the prize for this class and not have to work for the rest of the semester) b/c the words represeted symbols and in reverse, when I saw these symbols as I could remember them in a improvisation melodic composition, all the words/phrases, I was able to recall.

* thinking *

[hypnocmt]

...that many of the craetive geniuses of the ages were, in fact, synesthetes. COuple ofmajor composers- chopin maybe? Liszt? and EE Cummings is great example.

[misslinda]

...that many of the craetive geniuses of the ages were, in fact, synesthetes. COuple ofmajor composers- chopin maybe? Liszt? and EE Cummings is great example.

LOL, is depression also a characteristic? OMG, Chopin and Liszt are at my top........* gulp *

I'm curious Hypnocmt, your experience with working with patients of many variety of conditions AND with your many skills/abilites that range from shiatsu to "therapy" in an unconventional definition, HOW do you determine what approach to use? Do you soley go by MD referral?

[misslinda]

Well Chopin is my true LOVE even though they thought he we depressed :D nothing beats Fatasia Impromptu--for all you piano players, the grueling pattern of 3 against 2 :p

[hypnocmt]

I started out with traditional massage, then trained in Asian Bodywork, which is mostly the same training as acupuncturists, without training in needling or herbs. when they go to needling classes, we do Tui Na.

A big part of our training, as you know, is recognizing how emotions tie in with bodily health, pain, etc.

This and Qi Gong, got me interested in using hypno as part of my practice, since hypno quick-wires synapses since your brain recognizes hypnotic events as having "really happened" whereas guided imagery/mediation pass thru the brain in a different way, thru the pathways of constructed imaginary events. If one were to compare this rewiring to treading a path (priming synaptic pathways) it would be as though guided imagery was a man walking a path in ballet slippers, whereas hypnosis was a man wearing thick hiking boots. The guy in the hiking boots is gonna make a clearer path as he walks, right?

If someone comes for bodywork, initially that is what they get- usually with great success. If the client reports discomfort or healing issues which are beyond the reach of manual therapy, I will gently mention hypno to them and see if they're interested. Also, those who have issues of healing slowly, are great candidates for a combo of point work and hypno. For example, one of my clients had a rotator cuff tear. it was not healing even after 6 mos of rest. HE was told he would need surgery, but since he is a coach of a major collegiate athletics team, surgery would have been a major impediment to his work. Instead, we used acupressure to move the chi stagnation along his LI/LU lines. Then I used hypnotherapeutic proliferation suggestions on the affected tear...suggesting that it would be flooded with nutrient rich blood, old cells horoughly washed away by lymphatic fluid, and that the blood's nutrients were twice as powerful and could be used to speed healing of the area by twice or even three times the normal rate. I reminded his body that he had learned not to overdo his workouts, and was putting a conscious effort into relaxing and better caring for himself, so whatever physical lesson it may have wanted to teach him had been learned.

Does this work?

I think so.

After one of those sessions, I didn't see him for 2-3 weeks. When he came for a plain' ol' relaxation massage, I asked him how the shoulder was, and when he would have surgery. He reported that he no longer thought he needed surgery, as he hadn't experienced any discomfort since our tui na and hypno session.


Most of my hypno clients come specifically for that. The medical hypno clients have gone thru the rounds of physical means to help themselves and most have spent time in therapy. They come to me when they reach the end of what those therapies can do for them at that time. I believe phys. disharmony starts in the mind, (excluding sudden trauma to the body, as in a car accident) but for many people, the mind is the last place they address.

The folks who come for emotional clearing are usually also in psychotherapy,
or have worked with their therapists for years and reached the end of the road with them. There is only so much emotional work which can be done in the conscious/analytical realm. The very word psychoanalysis, IMHO, denotes an implicit failure to honor the mechanisms of the mind.

Emotional responses are wired completely differently than those of conscious logic/analysis. In fact, in practice, the conscious mind learns of an emotional response after the fact. So, how can logic address emotional responses, when the emotional response is triggered and implemented BEFORE the analytical brain even knows the trigger is present?

It's like the emotions live in one house, and reason lives in another. Would you go to your neighbor's house to fix the faucet in YOUR bathroom? lol.. And yet....that's the approach of much therapy, valid though it may be for cultivating understanding of one's self and circumstance.

Long story short, when people get to me, they feel they UNDERSTAND their emotions, and the DYNAMICS of their relationships, but other than a few changes on the surface of these issues, they feel they haven't been able to CHANGE the way they FEEL about themselves, the world, etc. So THAT is where I fit in.

So anytime, I think an issue can be addressed from deep inside, be it a psychosomatic component of pain and healing, an opportuniy to program the autonomic nervous system for a more favorable response, or a chance to "rewire" deep beliefs and habits into something which will better serve my client's goals, I choose to apply hypno.


Long ass answer. :p Hope it helps!

[tirunesh]

I know some of you do see parallel worlds etc.

Please share your experiences with us! :)


.....I mean I see things that are not seen by the average person you talk to BUT it is there. It's not conventional but I'm not hallucinating either"

Too many to mention. But, I think its More of a power surge of some sort. I think the goal is to minimize them so you can begin to express that power in real time. :( We all want to see the best in everyone when we get in touch with the best in ourselves. But, we got to make them admit that the raw way is the best way. Therefore, one must learn to ontrol those power surges and use that energy in more practical ways.

[StarFire]

Great topic! I was 9 years old before I realized that NO BODY was seeing what I saw. I asked my Mother who that girl was that just walked through our house and when she gave me an odd look - I began to realize - I was different. I've gone through different phases with this gift. Surprise, Fear, Sorrow, Resigned to it. It just is... it's part of me - it's how my vision works - I can't explain it. I have a great deal of difficulty going to crowded places due to all the noise - all the spirits, their voices, then the people and their thoughts can be quite loud also.

My Kumu (hula teacher) was the first one to help me to understand that this gift can be used to bless. We regularly do a release work - helping trapped Spirits to the light. It's very awesome!

[mershwista]

What do you mean by helping trapped spirits see the light? Are you referring to the fact that so many people do not see anything beyond that which exists in the physical world?

[StarFire]

What do you mean by helping trapped spirits see the light? Are you referring to the fact that so many people do not see anything beyond that which exists in the physical world?

No - sorry I guess I didn't word that very well! Sometimes trapped Spirits feel abandoned unloved and well -- trapped just the 'other side' of this dimension. They see us - but cannot communicate with us (for the most part). They do not realize that their loved ones (that have passed), and their Guardian Spirits or Spirit Guides will lead them to the light so that they may cross the rainbow and begin the next phase of their journey... that of a Spirit being in a Spirit world. The 'release' allows them to find their way again so that they are no longer trapped in the in-between. Hope that answered the question! :)