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misslinda
04-15-2006, 06:36 PM
Greetings Everyone!

For those of you who are new to fasting, here is some general information.

This first link is a well repsected site by most of us that have completed juice or water fasting. There are many subtopics you can click on to view more.

http://www.freedomyou.com/fasting_book/juice%20fasting.htm


Next, this is a general outline of detoxification stages while fasting

Detoxification Stages

A single cell within the human body is more complex than the most modern supercomputer. The process of removing a hundred thousand antigens, each with unique molecular properties, from trillions of functioning cells is indeed a complex process. Imagine three trillion cells being repaired during the function of countless biochemical processes needed for life. Even the best mechanics have to turn off the engine. Yet, the body has millions of micro mechanics that do this with ease.

One of the body’s automatic maintenance processes is the destruction of foreign microorganisms. When looking through a dark-field microscope, countless parasites are clearly visible. I observed parasites living inside blood cells. Several could be seen eating cholesterol, and I was amazed to see one swim. Watching lymphocytes moving in the blood was like a science-fiction movie. These complex, lymphocyte organisms attached themselves and engulfed toxins. As they did, their colorations flowed into fascinating patterns leaving me with a sense of wonder and respect for the miraculous ability and infinite complexity of the human body.

Detoxification Stages

Here is an overview of the detoxification stages during a juice fast. The time periods are a general estimation.

Stage 1 (Day 1 To Day 2)
On the first day of fasting, the blood sugar level drops below 70 mg/dl. To restore the blood to the normal glucose level, liver glycogen is converted to glucose and released into the blood. This reserve is enough for half a day. The body then reduces the basal metabolic rate (BMR). The rate of internal chemical activity in resting tissue is lowered to conserve energy. The heart slows and blood pressure is reduced. Glycogen is pulled from the muscle causing some weakness. The first wave of cleansing is usually the worst.

Headaches, dizziness, nausea, bad breath, glazed eyes and a heavily coated tongue are signs of the first stage of cleansing. Hunger can be the most intense in this period unless the enema is used which quickly assists the body into the fasting state by ending digestion in the colon.

Stage 2 (Day 3 To Day 7)
Fats, composed of transformed fatty acids, are broken down to release glycerol from the gliceride molecules and are converted to glucose. The skin may become oily as rancid oils are purged from the body. People with problem-free skin may have a few days of pimples or even a boil. A pallid complexion is also a sign of waste in the blood. Ketones are formed by the incomplete oxidation of fats. It is suspected that the ketones in the blood suppress the appetite by affecting the food-satiety center in the hypothalamus. You may feel hungry for the first few days of the fast. This effect is temporary. The desire to eat will disappear. Lack of hunger may last 40 to 60 days, depending on whether you are on water or juice.

The body embraces the fast and the digestive system is able to take a much-needed rest, focusing all of its energies on cleansing and healing. White blood cell and immune system activity increases. You may feel pain in your lungs. The cleansing organs and the lungs are in the process of being repaired. Periodically, the lymphatic system expels mucoid matter through the nose or throat. The volume excreted of this yellow-colored mucus can be shocking. The sinuses go through periods of being clogged, then will totally clear. The breath is still foul and the tongue coated. Within the intestine, the colon is being repaired and impacted feces on the intestinal wall start to loosen.

Stage 3 (Day 8 to Day 15)
On the latter part of an extended fast, you can experience enhanced energy, clear-mindedness and feel better than you have felt since childhood. On the downside, old injuries may become irritated and painful. This is a result of the body's increased ability to heal during fasting. If you had broken your arm 10 years before, there is scar tissue around the break. At the time of the break, the body's ability to heal was directly related to lifestyle. If you lived on a junk-food diet, the body's natural healing ability was compromised.

During fasting, the body's healing process is at optimum efficiency. As the body scours for dead or damaged tissue, the lymphocytes enter the older, damaged tissue secreting substances to dissolve the damaged cells. These substances irritate the nerves in the surrounding region and cause a reoccurrence of aches from previously injured areas that may have disappeared years earlier. The pain is good as the body is completing the healing process. The muscles may become tight and sore due to toxin irritation. The legs can be the worst affected, as toxins accumulate in the legs. Cankers are common in this stage due to the excessive bacteria in the mouth. Daily gargling with salt and water will prevent or heal cankers.

Stage 4 (Day 16 to Day 30)
The body is completely adapted to the fasting process. There is more energy and clarity of mind. Cleansing periods can be short with many days of feeling good in between. There are days when the tongue is pink and the breath is fresh. The healing work of the organs is being completed. After the detoxification mechanisms have removed the causative agent or render it harmless, the body works at maximum capacity in tissue proliferation to replace damaged tissue. While a short fast will reduce the symptoms, a longer fast can completely heal. Homeostatic balance is at optimum levels. The lymphatic system is clean except for a rare discharge of mucus through the nose or throat. After day 20, the mind is affected. Heightened clarity and emotional balance are felt at this time. Memory and concentration improve.

Stage 5 (Breaking the Fast)
The sticky, toxic, mucoid coating on the intestinal wall is loose, and the first meal frees it from the intestinal wall. Toxins enter the blood through the colon. The gallbladder dumps its waste in a heavy discharge of bile. This can cause an instant bowel movement upon eating followed by intense diarrhea. If the symptoms are too uncomfortable, an enema will help

Breaking the Fast

Breaking an extended fast can be difficult. You will quickly discover that breaking the fast is harder than fasting. A slumbering digestive system is sensitive, and although you might want to try every food on the planet, you cannot because your system needs time to get back to speed. The longer the fast the more time is needed for breaking the fast. Water fasting demands the longest time to break. The longer the fast the more difficult it is to break correctly. Here is an email to show just how bad it can be.

When it came down to actually breaking my fast, I had no idea how difficult it would be. The moment I put anything inside my body, I lost that natural euphoric high I'd had during the fast, and that feeling of losing control caused me to overeat until I was sick. I ate like a pig and even smoked! I was sure I would never have the desire to smoke again. I'm also feeling a bit ill. I feel like I felt before fasting: tired, frustrated, bloated and achy. Everything looks messy and out of control right now. I feel like I want to cry all the time. I don't understand it! I had such discipline during the fast! What happened? Do you have any insights for me? Thank you for being there!! Love, Mia

If you are a compulsive eater, breaking a fast can be exceedingly difficult. During the fast, you are free from the bondage of food, but as soon as you eat, the battle engulfs you at full intensity. There is a nervous anxiety about eating. Part of you wants to enjoy the food and part of you is fearful of losing control. Reading the book, Eating In Freedom, during your fast will have prepared you for victory.

There are erroneous beliefs that will destroy your discipline and healthy breaking of the fast. One is that I have deprived myself; now, I get to enjoy food. The other trap is the newness of the experience. Flavors and textures of food will be enhanced by super-clean nasal passages. Eating will be a brand new experience. There is a desire to try every food just to see how it tastes. A bite of this and that leads to a belly full of an indigestible mixture.

If you have dreamed of eating pizza after a fast, the first thing you will eat after breaking the fast will be pizza, because you have programmed your mind for the event. Be careful not to lust after food during a fast.

When you break a fast and start to eat, do not expect that the food will give you energy. Often, it is just the opposite; after fasting, the digestion of food can stir up more toxins. The first few meals move through the intestine like a broom that pushes ahead of it loosening waste from 30 feet of intestine. You can actually go from feeling great to feeling toxic after eating one small salad. Losing that exhilarating feeling and clear-mindedness, experienced on the fast, can be depressing. Don't worry if this happens, it will pass in a few hours. A healthy diet high in raw food, can maintain the benefits of fasting.

Eating small amounts of raw fruits and vegetables for the first five or six days will allow the body to gently wake up the digestive system. Once you have eaten, wait till you feel hungry. Do not eat according to the clock or because you feel you should be eating more. When breaking a fast, overloading the digestive system causes feelings of apathy, depression or sluggishness. However, if you do overeat, the effect can be remedied by fasting until hunger returns, and then continue to break the fast. One of the tricks I have learned on breaking a fast is to pretend I am still fasting but eat the occasional fruit.


Fasting at your discretion,
:)

rawpriestess
04-16-2006, 02:13 AM
WOW, Misslinda, thanks for all of this great information.


You are a blessing.

livingatthetop
04-16-2006, 02:37 AM
oh snap this is greattttttttttttttttttttttttt information. I mean bless you for sharing this information because it has really helped me thankyou :D

livingatthetop
04-16-2006, 02:50 AM
I have been toying with the idea of a fast and I am going to commit to a 30 day fast next week. you really helped me. I know that when I fasted before I wouldn't stick it out but I will now with all of this great information!


I wonder how much weight I can lose on a 30 day juice fast I might even start it tomorow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have things n the dehydrator and It would be waste ful but my body really need a fast. :rolleyes: ok I start the fast on monday.

I have never under taken anything this long but I think that it will be well worth it!!!!!!!!!!!

An all organic juice fast.

Public prayer please God allow me to execute this fast ok ill do!!!!!!!!! :p

Purl
04-17-2006, 06:02 AM
AWESOME info! How timely since I am starting a fast today. I *was* gonna fast for 14 days, but after reading that it seems like you get so much more out of 30 days...just when my salad greens should be ready for pickin' in the garden... ;) It would be nice to end a fast on organic veggies I grew myself. :cool:

I think I will print that out and post it on my mirror, so I can refer to it when I'm feeling LOUSEY! :p

Thank you so much, Miss Linda, for all you do here!!! And for your wonderful heart to help all of us!

ShelShel
04-17-2006, 08:42 PM
Thank you for that info. I think about fasting and I realize after your post, that I'm not ready yet. I'm still making the transition to 100% raw. I'm feeling more in control of my eating and I think a fast right now would ruin that. I'm not ready...thanks for that info...it was really helpful. ;)

misslinda
04-18-2006, 10:23 PM
Bumping up information.

eachpeachpearplum
04-19-2006, 12:33 AM
thanks! I have had a hard time getting back to high raw since. . . .Christmas! I have been fighting the re-addiction demons and I have been thinking about a fast, hoping that might do the trick.

Thanks again!

mamma mia
04-19-2006, 11:53 AM
i wanted to do a 30 day fast with my sister but i have a question she is having surgury on may 1st and will a fast make her heal slower or is it not good to fast after surgury?
she is getting her boobs done...

margi
04-19-2006, 12:01 PM
thankyouthankyouthankyou misslinda for all of this great information!

i am thinking of starting a fast maybe tomorrow so this is great timing ;)

misslinda
04-19-2006, 12:05 PM
Momma mia, I am not a doctor or naturopath or qualified health professional so this will be personal [experience] suggestion.....

I'm assuming she's never done any type of fasting?

Juice fasting is desireable b/c of all the nutrients to cleanse while rebuilding.

If not, I'd say it doesn't hurt to do a 7 days and post eating healthy is just as important [but] the two full weeks prior to the surgery I would not do as it's kinda like doing "one major change to another major change." Especially the fact that we do not know how her body reacts to fasting. Can be traumatic to the body or stressful per se. Fasting on water or juices etc are very detoxifying and according to the detox stages, days 8-15 the body healing old injuries which means those can be re-experienced again.

However, I think she would benefit from a shorter fast like a week, cleansing some of those easier to reach areas and gain some strength for surgery. Now while recovering, fsating may be beneficial as well. Because the body will [view] the surgery as an [injury] so to speak.

Again, only personal insight no professional.

Best you both. :)

misslinda
04-23-2006, 06:20 PM
bumping up

rawfigure
04-23-2006, 06:30 PM
I have been wanting to do a fast. Pre Raw I could not fast due to my reactive hypoglycemia. I fasted for surgery and ended up on a glucose drip to bring me back to life. So I have been advised no fasting BUT now 7 mo raw I am thinking I should try it. Maybe a Green Drink fast first ? then a full fast ?

Nevous to go full bore on the water fast !

tvillemom
04-29-2006, 09:49 AM
I've been seriously considering a fast....thanks for the great website, and all the information.
A friend recommended that I NOT do more than a few days for the first fast, and then after about a week, maybe try again and do another 3 days.....but it seems like after reading the info on that website, at least 7 days (and even as much as 30) is needed to feel the full benefits. My friend (who has fasted before) just said that detox could be too much if I did a LONG fast in the beginning. (and I would be MISERABLE) Does anyone have an opinion about this? Should I try a fast maybe with 3 days in mind, and then lengthen it if I feel I can??? What about taking Barley greens (like a supplement) I'm not sure I can buy it in juice form and it still be raw...or do I buy a powder???? Sorry for all the questions. Thanks.
My birthday is the end of May, and I would really like to give myself a new attitude, and a cleaner body!!! YEAH, what a great present to myself! I have till May 30th to accomplish SOMETHING.....
Wendi

misslinda
07-02-2006, 10:15 PM
bumping up for new comers to fasting. ;)

Graciebeliever
07-02-2006, 10:29 PM
Thank You Misslinda :D That is EXACTLY the information I was looking for! :)
Something at the core of this info that gives me confidence and desire to plan and do a fast. So many exciting things to know and learn.

madmel
07-02-2006, 10:49 PM
Thanks misslinda,

great information!

mel

misslinda
07-03-2006, 12:31 AM
You're welcome friends!

Some helpful thought provoking questions and info:


Research what kind of water you want to use to hydrate and assist in flushing toxins.

Do I want to use an eliminator to assist in ridding the waste out of my colon?

What other modalitites/therapies can I use to ease detox?

Should I or can I exercise while fasting?


FASTING is intense so please practice with caution and ask ask ask when in doubt or question :)

misslinda
07-19-2006, 02:45 AM
Bumping up for Fasting Prep for those that are unsure of what to expect.

the upcoming fasting --see thread: "Misslinda and Path201's Fasting Part 2"

:D

tvillemom
07-19-2006, 12:57 PM
MissLinda, where can I find the information about the things you listed above? (ie. water, "an eliminator"??, and other therapies). I'm very curious to usings other methods with the fast to help me detox. I know one method would be an enema, which I'm not wanting to do. So please, PRETTY PLEASE, tell me where I can go to learn more.....that way I don't have to bug you ;)
Wendi

misslinda
07-19-2006, 06:06 PM
MissLinda, where can I find the information about the things you listed above? (ie. water, "an eliminator"??, and other therapies). I'm very curious to usings other methods with the fast to help me detox. I know one method would be an enema, which I'm not wanting to do. So please, PRETTY PLEASE, tell me where I can go to learn more.....that way I don't have to bug you ;)
Wendi

Wendi, there is no one site that I go to. Alot of these are self research or heading to the health food store from the past years of shopping and talking with people. An Eliminator is not neccessary everyday with fasting but b/c the toxins are being drawn towards the colon, it's nice to free it and allow better blood flow. You may wnat to try typing in as keyword search but your best resource is the health food store. I typically read,pick at the employees brains and even start conversations with strangers about their experiences with products etc.

Is anyone else using an eliminator? :D

twinyoga
07-19-2006, 07:44 PM
I'm thinking about this fast and if it's the right time for me. As you can see from a post I just wrote, I'm having some surprising up's and down's all of a sudden. Wish I knew why.

It sure is fun being a part of this group in some way though (even if it's just me considering the fast)

By the way, what do you think of only fruit juices? The thought of green's has been making me feel very woozy lately. But juices like pineapple, orange, and apple sound very good.

suzanneb
07-19-2006, 08:06 PM
I just found this site after doing some research on organic & raw foods, health benefits, etc., and wondered if I should fast first to get the process started. I'm concerned about the fatigue because I'm a single mom working a full time job. Guess I could disappear under my desk for a few zzz's...any advice on how to get started?

I just registered and haven't filled out a profile yet, but just so you know, I live in Florida and drinking water is already a ritual of mine...just cause it's so darn hot!!

tvillemom
07-20-2006, 07:11 AM
Suzanneb....welcome to the board! I'm new to fasting, so I really can't advise you there. I just wanted to welcome you to the board, this is a great place to learn and meet people. Are you totally new to raw? If you are, I would just concentrate for alittle while on getting that right.....but then again, that's me. I think is would be ok healthwise if you fasted, just make sure you read all the details and know what you are doing before you just jump in. Best of luck.
Wendi

misslinda
07-25-2006, 12:46 AM
Bumping Up For New Comers.

PATH301
07-25-2006, 01:12 AM
This too misslinda I'll stick into my raw fasting help file :D

misslinda
07-31-2006, 02:04 AM
bumping up again for new wave of newbies

misslinda
09-22-2006, 05:43 PM
bumping back up

Ginger
09-22-2006, 06:24 PM
copy/paste Thanks! :D

Just started fasting today! My goal was to go from sept 22nds new moon & equinox to the harvest moon on my birthday oct 6th! I may have to go longer now after reading this!

misslinda
09-30-2006, 10:53 AM
bumping up

Fragola
10-24-2006, 11:05 AM
ohhh Thank you very very much Misslinda!!
I am not new to fasting but I am about to start a new fasting, and informations are always welcome for extra motivation!

:)

sungoddess
10-24-2006, 12:48 PM
How compromised is energy during the fast? Are you able to go to work/school? I know that people say it is best to rest, but I am wondering what extent of rest is needed. I would love to go on a fast, but my excuse is always that I have to go to school!

tomch
10-24-2006, 06:45 PM
How compromised is energy during the fast? Are you able to go to work/school? I know that people say it is best to rest, but I am wondering what extent of rest is needed. I would love to go on a fast, but my excuse is always that I have to go to school!

Hi Sungoddess,

I'm a new poster here, but have done a fair bit of water fasting, although 2 weeks has usually been my stopping point. My last 2-week water fast was about 2 months ago.

I've experienced some tiredness, but nothing so bad that I wasn't able to work (I have a sit-down job - software engineer). A lot of days, I'd come home from work, lay down on the bed and read all evening - nice and relaxing! It seemed to help a lot to stay very hydrated - drink lots of water while fasting!

For me, the first few days were actually the worst as far as energy drain. I think that's because the body is "changing cycles". This is the best time to just guzzle water. Once I got "in the groove" (usually by day 3) my energy seemed pretty constant for the rest of the time.

When I first started fasting a few years ago, it was a lot more difficult than it is now, so don't expect your first fast to be a very long one. The more you do it, the more your body gets used to it. My first fast was only 3 days, and I was thinking about food CONSTANTLY during that time - not a very rewarding experience! I'm glad that I persisted, though - now it is almost effortless, and a rewarding experience.

My biggest complaint about extended fasting is that after 7 - 10 days, my body just isn't tired enough at night to sleep much at night. Some nights I got only 2 or 3 hours! (You need a lot less sleep during a fast...) In retrospect, I should have just picked up a book and read until I was tired, but being the insomniac that I am, I worried that I wasn't getting enough sleep to do my job well, so I usually stopped at this point.

That wonderful post by misslinda has me inspired to try it again, though! And this time, I'll just get used to being awake at night and enjoy it! Gotta use up the veggies in the refrigerator first, though.

BTW - The FreedomYou website that misslinda posted is WONDERFUL, as are their books. I have all four of them (you can get them in e-book format, too!), and they are very motivating and inspiring - a good thing to read while you're fasting!

Tom

sungoddess
10-24-2006, 07:39 PM
Thanks tomch!!!!! I may try this.... maybe on winter break! I am at college for musical theater... it's pretty active every day!

misslinda
01-08-2007, 01:04 AM
Bumping up for reminder and information.

Happy Fasting Ya'll ;)

girlsmiley
01-08-2007, 07:05 PM
When are we starting??????

Apasaraw
01-08-2007, 07:24 PM
Thank you MissLinda!

For teh info and the bump.

You read my MIND woman!!!

I needed this info today....

abetterlife
01-08-2007, 09:31 PM
well, I am not ready for a fast but its something I will look at in the future.

I have osterporosis and need to be careful.

I think I will make an appointment with my doctore and ask him about juice dieting and fasting for 24 hours.

Thank you

ABL

misslinda
02-10-2007, 08:15 PM
Mercystreet, here it is.

;)

aenea
02-11-2007, 02:34 PM
Do you think a fast is necessary to do before going raw? I can't imagine 30 days of fasting!! I've done the 32 hour famine with my church to help raise awareness about people in 3rd world countries starving. I'm interested sort of scared to do it though as it's something I've never thought about. I know in a normal fast you can come back and eat broth then soup etc how do you do it on a raw diet?


oo and i like that live journal idea so i stole it from you :p

sar
02-15-2007, 07:56 AM
Wow thank you for this information, just what I need I have been fasting for4days now 2days on water only.

misslinda
02-15-2007, 09:51 AM
Do you think a fast is necessary to do before going raw? I can't imagine 30 days of fasting!! I've done the 32 hour famine with my church to help raise awareness about people in 3rd world countries starving. I'm interested sort of scared to do it though as it's something I've never thought about. I know in a normal fast you can come back and eat broth then soup etc how do you do it on a raw diet?


oo and i like that live journal idea so i stole it from you :p


Greetings Aenea!

Because fasting is such a personal decision, fasting is not necessary at all before going raw. RAW diet in itself is cleansing and offers the body the vital nutrients that it needs to heal. Granted, that route is a process also.

In terms of concentrated cleansing/healing, during fasting (abstaining from all solids) the body is given a break from it's digestive work from solid foods and is able to divert all its enzymes towards detoxifying,cleansing and healing/repairing.

There are many views as to the justification for fasting. Some don't believe in it and some do for religious/spiritual reasons,health reasons etc etc. Take for example when we are ill with a "cold" often times we lose our appeitite and abstain from food-right?

I'm with you on that, it can be scary if you have never fasted before but you need not do 30 days. Seven days is a great break for the colon--wonderful on dilluted green juices. Three days even takes you to that bright and light feeling. You can even do one day fasts........again, fasting is not neccessay but a choice.

There are two very very helpful links on the first page of this thread that I reccomend.

I wish you well and most in your fasting endeavors..... ;)

Sar, peace and tranquility to you on water fasting. ;)

kailaniece
02-19-2007, 01:20 AM
SO MUCH GREAT INFORMATION!!!!!

I've done a few fasts before, water and juice (tried master cleanse and couldn't quite grasp the whole cayenne and water thing). I've been playing with the idea of doing another water or trying master cleanse, but I'm slightly afriad of having something happen to me. How do you know the difference between detox symptoms and something serious? I liked how I felt on juice and felt good with water until I started feeling anxious and I think maybe gave myself panic attacks, which I mistook for real stuff.... I think I have the disciipline to fast for a long time, but I just don't want to faint in the middle of a rehearsal or something... Oh decisions and babbling

kailaniece
02-19-2007, 01:22 AM
I mean, juice fasting is fine but water fasting...... phew

misslinda
02-21-2007, 11:24 PM
SO MUCH GREAT INFORMATION!!!!!

I've done a few fasts before, water and juice (tried master cleanse and couldn't quite grasp the whole cayenne and water thing). I've been playing with the idea of doing another water or trying master cleanse, but I'm slightly afriad of having something happen to me. How do you know the difference between detox symptoms and something serious? I liked how I felt on juice and felt good with water until I started feeling anxious and I think maybe gave myself panic attacks, which I mistook for real stuff.... I think I have the disciipline to fast for a long time, but I just don't want to faint in the middle of a rehearsal or something... Oh decisions and babbling


Hey you!

Great question, during illness and conditions, the body actually prefers to not be eating and would concentrate on healing. I'll put it this way, detox, is serious business.

Often times when kidney are cleansing,there is higher level of anxiousness and what feels like you are going out of control.

If you are repsonding too intense in the begining, I would suggest juice fasting with half greens and semi sweet fruits. Usually those that get "PA" with detox have a history of yo yo dieting or past sugar issues from having a very sweet tooth or as I mentioned earlier, yo yo dieting that throws the sugar balance off.

Never feel pressured to fast or even water fast......take it day by day. My first attempt on the MC in 2004, I only lasted 5 hours as the detox symptoms gave me "PA" and I thought I was dying..........seriously. My ND suggested I do greens and fruit.

Even doing a 3-7 day fast has benefits!


FASTING IS AT EACH PERSON'S DISCRETION.

misslinda
03-07-2007, 10:58 PM
bumping up for new people into fastng. Couple of links that will educate you on the details of fasting in general . :)

misslinda
03-11-2007, 11:44 PM
bumping up for those new to fasting to answer some basic questions. see links for more details.

maraw
03-12-2007, 12:19 AM
Thanks for bumping this ML - I would have never seen it otherwise. There is SO much helpful information in your original post.

I started a 30-day cleanse two months ago. Got half-way through the first day, and was in so much pain I couldn't stand. I was having some kind of weird colon spasm! I called the ND and he said it would be OK, but I nearly passed out. Not something I am excited about doing again.

I like the idea of a fasting cleanse/healing. For someone like me that's not done it before, how long would you recommend I fast for my first time. Sounds like even 7-8 days would be a good start. Should I go juice or water? Thoughts? Comments?

Thanks in advance.
Anna

misslinda
03-12-2007, 12:30 AM
Thanks for bumping this ML - I would have never seen it otherwise. There is SO much helpful information in your original post.

I started a 30-day cleanse two months ago. Got half-way through the first day, and was in so much pain I couldn't stand. I was having some kind of weird colon spasm! I called the ND and he said it would be OK, but I nearly passed out. Not something I am excited about doing again.

I like the idea of a fasting cleanse/healing. For someone like me that's not done it before, how long would you recommend I fast for my first time. Sounds like even 7-8 days would be a good start. Should I go juice or water? Thoughts? Comments?

Thanks in advance.
Anna

Hey you Anna !

I take it you were doing the cleanse with the herbal formula in the kit?

You hit the spot, 7 days is great way to start--for those that have sensitive bloood sugar issues, I would recommend 3 days on and return fasting a week or two later.

days on pure green juices is great for cleaning the colon!

Juice or water would definately be a personal preference. Juice fasting, I would recommend low sugar fruits with celery or cucumber the first 3 days--all strained and dilluted with water. Then the last 3-4 days, do pure water IF you are wanting to include water fasting.

:)

maraw
03-12-2007, 12:39 AM
Yeah, it was a CLKS pill from the ND along with some drops. But the first day I had to take several of the pills along with 2 C of olive oil and some grapefruit juice. Makes me kind of sick to my stomach just thinking of it. :(

So, what's the big diff between juice and water health-wise. My blood sugar does run on the lower side. Should I stick with diluted juices you think?

misslinda
03-12-2007, 12:49 AM
Yeah, it was a CLKS pill from the ND along with some drops. But the first day I had to take several of the pills along with 2 C of olive oil and some grapefruit juice. Makes me kind of sick to my stomach just thinking of it. :(

So, what's the big diff between juice and water health-wise. My blood sugar does run on the lower side. Should I stick with diluted juices you think?


There are varying opinions about the type of fasting but in general, juice fasting offers the body some nutrients to replenish while detoxing/healing can be slower vs water fasting. However with water fasting, the detox is much more intense yet the body has complete attention to detox and heal. While replenishing is post fasting. It really depends on each person. I believe the weaker the health and body, the better it is to juice fast.

If you have a weaker stable blood sugar, I would really recommend using apples with green juices and ginger juice first thing in the morning.

Ginger juice is a great liver tonic! All juice you take should have greater amount of green juices and again, all strained and dilluted.

Consumption every 3 hours of 12 oz of dilluted juice or what you feel supports you well. In between juicing--plain simple water for consumption also.

Stay away from carrots,beets,oranges.

:)

maraw
03-12-2007, 12:59 AM
There are varying opinions about the type of fasting but in general, juice fasting offers the body some nutrients to replenish while detoxing/healing can be slower vs water fasting. However with water fasting, the detox is much more intense yet the body has complete attention to detox and heal. While replenishing is post fasting. It really depends on each person. I believe the weaker the health and body, the better it is to juice fast.

If you have a weaker stable blood sugar, I would really recommend using apples with green juices and ginger juice first thing in the morning.

Ginger juice is a great liver tonic! All juice you take should have greater amount of green juices and again, all strained and dilluted.

Consumption every 3 hours of 12 oz of dilluted juice or what you feel supports you well. In between juicing--plain simple water for consumption also.

Stay away from carrots,beets,oranges.

:)

Will do! Thanks for the guidance. It's something I'd really like to do for me, you know? I know you've recommended some really good juicing blends here before. I'll search around and see what I find. I love green juices and especially celery and cucumber! I've never juiced ginger before. I'll bet it's wonderful with apple.

Thanks again, ML. As always, you're a wealth of very helpful information.

misslinda
03-12-2007, 01:10 AM
You are more than welcome and anytime!

btw, it is highly desireable to keep juicing ingredients to 3 or less so the body doesn't get overworked and confused when assimilating while juice fasting.

Swiss chard is high in enzymes and densley nutritious for a green.
parsley
cilantro
cucumbers
celery
green leaf lettuce
wheatgrass


:)

maraw
03-12-2007, 10:29 PM
OK, so my fasting guide, today I thought it might be best to ease into this (not sure if that's a good idea or not though). I am juicing morning and evening, and have a light salad during the mid-day. Lots of water and fruits and veggies you recommended...

today was:
2 grapefruit, juiced, strained and diluted
spring greens salad w/avo, tomatoes, hemp seeds, oil & vin, pinch of salt
juice of celery, cucumber, 1 apple - again, strained and diluted

I'm in the bathroom all the time, and I feel hungry, but really good this evening. Do you think this is a good idea to do this for about a week, and then make the switch to all juice/water?

As always, would LOVE your input ML.

misslinda
03-12-2007, 10:37 PM
Hey you.........

* bowing down to the president * :D

Eating lighter definately helps to curve into fasting. However, prior to complete fasting (void of solids so that the digestive system can shut down), it's ideal to eat easily digestible foods such as fruits to ease into the "shut down" mode. Give yourself 3 days of fruits into complete liquids--again,so that your sugar levels don't get bumped, the fruits can be balanced by some greenjuices added in the other meals.

So I take it your on the runway......curtailing...........wings out.......and getting ready for takeoff :D

Solace
03-12-2007, 10:46 PM
Wendi, there is no one site that I go to. Alot of these are self research or heading to the health food store from the past years of shopping and talking with people. An Eliminator is not neccessary everyday with fasting but b/c the toxins are being drawn towards the colon, it's nice to free it and allow better blood flow. You may wnat to try typing in as keyword search but your best resource is the health food store. I typically read,pick at the employees brains and even start conversations with strangers about their experiences with products etc.

Is anyone else using an eliminator? :DJust wondering if anyones read this book ?????? The Ultimate 4 week detox http://www.energyeffect.com/

I believe its newer and a lot of people are saying its good ? Also, I have read that you should be raw for awhile before going for a 30 day cleanse like that, what do you think ?

maraw
03-12-2007, 10:48 PM
Hey you.........

* bowing down to the president * :D

Eating lighter definately helps to curve into fasting. However, prior to complete fasting (void of solids so that the digestive system can shut down), it's ideal to eat easily digestible foods such as fruits to ease into the "shut down" mode. Give yourself 3 days of fruits into complete liquids--again,so that your sugar levels don't get bumped, the fruits can be balanced by some greenjuices added in the other meals.

So I take it your on the runway......curtailing...........wings out.......and getting ready for takeoff :D

:p Maybe the assistant to the aid of the secretary of state...:p

My kids are on Spring break right now and my husband took the week off from work so we can do a little traveling, etc. I'm afraid of finding myself at a restaurant on a fast and that won't be pretty, I'm sure. So, I thought this would be a good easing into it week. I'm definitely on the runway, but take off may be delayed until next week and life returns to normal.

Maybe I could do the three fruit days over the weekend in preparation... watcha think? I feel great tonight, really. Empty, but really good. Yesterday I made some of the raisin fudge and put it in the freezer. Just knowing it is there is temptation enough, but it's like I'm mindful of just what I am trying to accomplish with this. The temptation is actually helpful! It's like someone waving a pizza under the nose of another trying to diet. The smell of cheese actually nausiates me now...but I digress.

Thanks again ML. I'll do as you suggest. Should be a wonderful week!

misslinda
03-12-2007, 11:09 PM
Just wondering if anyones read this book ?????? The Ultimate 4 week detox http://www.energyeffect.com/

I believe its newer and a lot of people are saying its good ? Also, I have read that you should be raw for awhile before going for a 30 day cleanse like that, what do you think ?

Solace, I've have not read this book --actually never heard of it either. I just visited the site thru your provided link. The info is not new to me and b/c of my eastern upbringing, that element is quite familiar to me. I do have concerns with suggesting herbs to people b/c herbs very potent and delicate and not eveyrone can have the same herb or the from it's in...like leaves vs root of the same herb.

Four weeks is ideal b/c at that stage of detox/fasting, the body has fully adapted and gone/going thru the retracing of injuries and illness. In most fasting sites, you can get an outline of what to expect and better yet, you can actually feel your body working on in a pattern.

It's ideal to be "healthy" when fasting to upstand the ability to detox effectively as it is overwhelming to the body. Even that is argued from one school of thought to the other. However, transitioning INTO fasting is at least agreed upon.....easily digestible fruits a few days in advance.

TRANSITIONING into FOOD is a topic that needs to be discussed more often and more in depth.

Hering's law of cure is a helpful chart as well.

Are you going to buy the book?

misslinda
03-12-2007, 11:21 PM
:p Maybe the assistant to the aid of the secretary of state...:p

The temptation is actually helpful! It's like someone waving a pizza under the nose of another trying to diet. The smell of cheese actually nausiates me now...but I digress.




LOL, boy if alot of us felt this way.......this journey would be dang easy. :p

Anna, I would love to hear about your fasting journey of what you go thru....will you be journaling or posting. You are more than welcome to update in out "Bandits" thread..........don't mind the thread title Madame Anna :D

Solace
03-13-2007, 02:40 AM
MissLinda, thanx for your reply !:D

maraw
03-13-2007, 08:18 AM
LOL, boy if alot of us felt this way.......this journey would be dang easy. :p

Anna, I would love to hear about your fasting journey of what you go thru....will you be journaling or posting. You are more than welcome to update in out "Bandits" thread..........don't mind the thread title Madame Anna :D

I should journal, haven't done so in a while. Just been a bit busy. But I always find that really helpful. I will do, and will check into the "bandit" thread as well.

Again, thanks for the information and encouragement. You're always good for that ML...

{{{{{{{{ bowing to the Fasting Master }}}}}}}}}}

misslinda
03-26-2007, 02:37 AM
bumping up for newcomers:)

nzgirl
04-06-2007, 10:44 AM
That was so imformative. I'm doing a green smoothie fast, (which I don't know if that's really a fast) and having an idea of whats happening or going to happen is going to make this so much easier. I'm now commited to doing this for 30 days. Thanks misslinda! :D

misslinda
04-15-2007, 03:16 PM
Before you attempt a fast, carefully read and understand what is and what can take place.

:)

misslinda
04-17-2007, 09:34 PM
Bump thingy......

Petals
04-17-2007, 10:32 PM
Thank you MissLinda for all the wonderful fasting information.

I just completed my first fast~ a three day water and fresh grape juice experience which lead to the breakthrough of my long self~ inflicted "art block."

Pretty intense.

Percy
05-17-2008, 09:07 PM
After a year... I'll bump this!!!


It seems to helpful!!

ltcartwright
06-10-2008, 11:58 AM
Just found this information and very glad that I did. Now I'm beginning to understand the levels of fasting and how important it is to fast. The website listed at the beginning was also very helpful and full of very useful and interesting information.

Thanks!

misslinda
12-04-2008, 09:15 AM
Return to first page for basic information on fasting!

Happy Fasting,
Misslinda
:)

Thick
07-21-2009, 12:22 AM
Just what I needed=) Thank you MissLinda!

soaringeagle925
12-26-2010, 08:14 PM
I love, love, LOVE this post. Every time I begin a new fast I do a search for it. Thank you so much, Linda!