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03-31-2006, 08:01 PM
I noticed raw foods on his site. Anyone ordered from them? Comments? The nut butter seems really affordable. Hmm. http://www.drfuhrman.com/shop/foodkitchen.aspx
03-31-2006, 09:49 PM
I've used his date-nut balls. Nothing else though. They were darn good!
03-31-2006, 11:05 PM
I haven't ever bought any packaged items for raw food.
it just doesnt' "feel" right to me.
Doesn't seem fresh.
I can't speak for his food products, but I can speak for his books - Fuhrman is without question one of the most honest, sincere and level-headed authors I have ever come across. The lack of dogmatism in his writing is so refreshing! He is also very knowledgable and has a long catalogue of patients he has really helped, in the real world, which is more than can be said for many authors. I thoroughly recommend his books, and although they do not specifically promote the raw diet, they do encourage it and put a huge emphasis on cutting the B$ internal dialogue one commonly has with oneself when struggling to make changes to a SAD diet, and on consuming a very large proportion of fresh fruits and vegetables. His message is sound. Where I differ from his stance, is only in a minor sense - I believe he states in his book 'Eat To Live' that claims of demineralization of non-organic produce are overstated and that this needn't be an issue in achieving a healthy diet. While I can, and do, appreciate that the primary concern is simply to get people to eat a large proportion of fruit and veg, and not to place economic restrictions on people's likelihood of achieving this, when they have enough negative excuses to avoid changing their SAD habits, I nonetheless now believe that organic is not simply a luxury - it is a necessity. Whereas, in the past, I used to believe organic was primarily about pesticide avoidance, I now realise that the absence of trace minerals and soil organisms affects produce in ways of unimaginable magnitude and that this has a HUGE potential impact on human health. Read McCarrison's work, and that of G.T. Wrench (http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13588), if you wish to find out why. Victoria Boutenko also mkes passing reference to the importance of soil organisms, in her book 'Green For Life'. Fuhrman is also quite disparaging of olive oil and while he makes valid points to substantiate his opinion, he does not acknowledge in his book that it is the trace elements in true extra virgin olive oil that engender it with health-promoting properties. Read Udo Erasmus's 'Fats That Heal; Fats That Kill' for more information on this (and the book is surprisingly interesting, despite the tediously boring title).
The above two criticisms aside, Fuhrman's books are excellent and a very wise investment, IMHO.
04-01-2006, 11:47 AM
I think Dr. Fuhrman's books are great. He has one also for children that is fantastic.
He believes in eating high raw but says that there is no reason not to eat steamed veggies or beans. He just doesn't believe in eating very many starches or grains and no cooking veggies etc. at high temperatures.
He really helps point people in the right direction.
04-01-2006, 02:15 PM
ITA Arky. I think he's brilliant. I have had the good fortune to speak to him on a number of occassions to get help with my little girl. He was superb, and so caring. Of course (as with any book) I'm not 100% on board with him. I don't agree that saturated fat is evil and will never give up my coconut oil! That said, without question E2L is the first book I recommend to any SADer.
04-01-2006, 04:16 PM
Another huge Fuhrman fan (Fuhrbie :)). He has stated that a raw food diet can be done successfully; he's not anti-raw. He is primarily concerned with persons obtaining nutritional excellence.
The nutritional products he's formulated (the ones of which I know) are excellent; I have not tried his food products.
04-01-2006, 07:49 PM
When did he tell you that about being able to do a raw diet successfully? I am just curious because from everything I have read of him talking about it talks about how he believes we need steamed veggies and other things.
I would love to know more of what he said.
04-01-2006, 08:57 PM
i'd love to know too! I never addressed a raw diet, and he does talk about eating certain veggies cooked to obtain all the nutrients... I know alot of the info (well, some at least) wasn't exactly in line with his book. Obviously every situation is different.
04-02-2006, 10:42 AM
yes, I just read an interview with him on I THINK rawfoodnews (although when I looked up that web address couldn't find it--drat.)
He DID say that he thinks an all raw diet CAN be done properly, BUT that it's unneccessary to be 100% raw to achieve excellent health-I"m paraphrasing, but that's essentially what I remember him saying. He said that people can get good nurition from steamed veggies, beans and some whole grains.
ALso, Dr. Day has said that the Halleluiah acres approach (85% raw, 15% cooked, all vegan) is a healthy approach too.
at any rate, after 6 weeks at 100% raw, I had some vegetarian chili last night with steamed tofu. I felt SOOO grounded and calm after. I know I"m not supposed to talk about it, but I"m going to experiment with some cooked veggies and beans this week. If I can't do it without wanting to eat more cooked than that, I'll immediately go back to 100% raw. I just have been feeling this vague sense of "nervousness" is all I can say about it, facing more "cold and mushy" into eternity. However, I think it's possible, as Dr. Furhman says, to get excellent nutrition with just a "little" cooked vegan whole foods. we'll see.
04-02-2006, 10:51 AM
faith4U, pretty much what theresann wrote. Obviously, raw fooders are a minority. His diet comprises his expertise as a conventional doctor as well as basic observational studies and vast knowledge of nutrition, which is why he comes out so high for raw. He is very balanced and fair when it comes to science; it would not be likely anyone would emerge successful sparring with him in debate :). He does think it takes more careful consideration to follow raw; but it's not impossible. He's not big on grains at all and recommends them only "if you must"-type thing. His diet is based on vegetables and fruit, beans, and nuts.
He also believes in fasting, and wrote a book about it; but I haven't read it. I don't know if he recommends it for certain conditions only, or if it's something for everyone.
And his "Eat to Live" book is excellent.
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