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03-16-2006, 09:22 PM
Please help me. I just got my test results. Keep in mind this is results of 8 days of fasting and I'm on day 16.
My md says to stop fasting. My body needs nutrition and its going to hurt my kidneys.
I don't agree. For many reasons. But I want to hear from others.
I'm not hungry so I know I am not starving. I want to be safe. I don't want to stop my fast now....unless there is a good reasons I'm hurting my organs.
03-16-2006, 09:45 PM
I'm not going to try explain this in my own words. Here is an excerpt froma fasting site
Initially, the reduction of calories allows the liver to convert glycogen stores to glucose and energy. Body fat can be used for energy (ATP) but it cannot generate or reform glucose; although many cells can metabolize fatty acids for energy, the brain and central nervous system need direct glucose. Proteins can be broken down into amino acids; of these, alanine and serine can be used to produce glucose. With fasting, some protein breakdown occurs, less if calories are provided by juices. When there is no stored glycogen left, our body will convert protein to amino acids and to energy. Fatty acids can also be a fair source of energy, usually after being converted to ketones. With total fasting, ketosis occurs as an adaptation by the body to prevent protein loss by burning fats. Still, protein and fats can be used to provide energy for brain cell function. With juice fasting, there is less ketosis, and the simple carbohydrates in the juices are easily used for energy and cellular function. The high-protein diets and fasts do burn fat and generate ketosis and weight loss, but they also add more toxin buildup in the body from the foods or powders used. Also, they do not rest and cleanse the digestive tract and other organs as well.
Fasting increases the process of elimination and the release of toxins from the colon, kidneys and bladder, lungs and sinuses, and skin. This process can generate discharge such as mucus from the gastrointestinal tract, respiratory tract, sinuses, or in the urine. This is helpful to clear out the problems that have arisen from overeating and a sedentary lifestyle. Much of aging and disease, I believe, results from "biochemical suffocation," where our cells do not get enough oxygen and nutrients or cannot adequately eliminate their wastes. Fasting helps us decrease this suffocation by allowing the cells to eliminate and clear the old products.
how's it going? ;)
03-16-2006, 10:00 PM
Hi Kiwi-Ketosis means you are breaking down fat. Doctors don't like to see it because to much ketones can clogg up your kidneys. When your body is burning fat you will have some ketones. Remember I said that I tested my urine for ketones each moring and evening with the keto- sticks you buy from any drug store or even wal-mart. It is what diabetics use to test their urine. When you are fasting it is important to not let your body get over 1+. There is a scale on the back of the bottle. You can slow down the ketosis by adding a small slice of avocado to your juice--this makes like a thicken juice.
Sometimes just drinking more juice will reduce your ketones--sweet juice like carrot juice/ combos is good. When your ketones are this high drink a lot of water to flush the ketones out of your kidneys. Your MD is right, ketones can hurt your organs especially if you become dehydrated! How much juice are you drinking and how often ?Good luck
03-16-2006, 10:04 PM
thanks miss linda...still confused though.
i guess i'm concerned that my body is using my organs as fuel vs. my fat.
that is what my md basically said. He said STOP.
Geez...that was only my post 8 day results. now is day 16.
i'm doing GREAT...the doubts of fasting are setting in. I really thought I prepared for it but after talking to a doctor....i slightly believe him.
But I don't want to just give up....b/c I really want to experience all the health benefits so many people talk about with a long term fast.
03-18-2006, 12:56 AM
thanks lee lee...i'll buy the keto-sticks and make sure i keep an eye out. i'll start drinking more water too!
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