Disgusted with ds pediatrician

[MangoMommy]

My ds (4) had his annual checkup yesterday. As a toddler he has experienced the absolute worse eczema, head to toe oozing, itchy, scabby and even stinky. He would scratch at his skin until it was bleeding and cry at night because he was so itchy. We did not know what to do and his pediatrician just kept telling us to apply lotion. Finally, she referred us to a dermatologist and he prescribed drugs to relive the symptoms. This did help and then I searched out alternative treatments and tried changing his diet and found that "dairy" (surprise surprise) is the main culprit. So, at his appointment yesterday I was proud to report that he no longer needed his medicine because his skin is fine and I found that dairy is the main culprit for his eczema. She seemed "ok" with this and put a note in his file that he is "dairy sensitive". She then started asking about his eating and diet and asked what he was drinking and i told her mainly water and fruit juices. She asked if he drank more fruit juices than milk an I said "yes". She then recommended that he drink whole milk. She recommended more milk after we just discussed his "dairy sensitivity" and recommended more use of the steroid cream for the eczema flare ups!! His little body is screaming..Please, no dairy!! and the pediatrician is recommending dairy and drugs!!! :(

[Purl]

here's what I do-Nod and smile when the pedi is talking and then do what I want at home. :) My pedi told me that the "scientific evidence does not support" what I report to be true for my own dc. Whatever.

When my twins were 1 yo I told their gastroenterologist that they were allergric to dairy and he told me that was nonsense and made me feel stupid, and I listened to him, rather than what my sons bodies were telling me. If I had listened to my gut instinct it might not have taken me EIGHT years to put them on the gluten/caisen free diet. Can you imagine how much suffering I could have saved them, and the whole family? (They become VERY VIOLENT after eating dairy/gluten).

Listen to your heart mama. You really DO know best. ((((mangomommy))))

[Punky]

It's like she didn't even hear you! How frustrating for you.

My son has eczema caused by dairy sensitivity as well. Our ped never
mentioned dairy either, but prescribed a steroid cream when he was an infant.
She should of recommended dairy substitutes or something; rice, soy, etc...
we used rice milk for years. Not raw of course.
Raw ways to get calcium: GREEN Smoothies
my kids love these and do not even taste the dark greens. We use kale, chard, spinach or lettuce. There was a list of raw calcium foods posted awhile back if you do a search with the banana key.
Oh, sesame mylk is good for calcium too. There was a recipe posted as well if you do a search on that too.

[RowanC]

My little grandson has eczema on his penis, his right forefinger, and his chest. His mother has it too.

I can't believe so many people are getting this. There most certainly has to be a toxin connection.

When I was a girl, there was a little girl in my 3d grade class who was covered with it. Poor thing would just sit outside the door and scratch. We alienated her, of course, because in the 50's we didn't have a clue what it was and were afraid of her.. and we were children, and children are sometimes cruel.

Anyway.. back to the point... I did a lot of reading last night online and there is a tremendous amount of support for the use of virgin, cold pressed organic coconut oil for eczema. I'm going to suggest my grandson use it. Have you tried it?

Also, he LOVES green smoothies! I wish his mom would make them, but I don't think she will. But everyweekend when he comes to grandmas, he gets them. He's so cute! He's 18 months old and he'll "toast" me with his smoothie. He likes to clink the glasses! haha!

[maraw]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I was about to post THIS VERY SAME THREAD! Wow! For the past month, my 3 year-old son has suffered EXACTLY the same condition. Until last Thursday when a friend reminded me about something I told her years ago about the connection between dairy and eczema. So, in a last ditch effort, we pulled him off of all dairy (my son is a great lover of raw food fortunately, but I have two die-hard girls that love their cheese and we keep it in the house because of them - that is, until now). Well, the results were amazing. It is now Wednesday and the rash is almost completely gone. We've been to his pediatrician, twice, the allergist, immunologist and were on the way to the dermatologist later this week - but now I can cancel the appointment! And yes, they have prescribed steroids, both oral and topical (we didn't use them though), and lots of different moisterizers. Nothing, and I mean nothing has worked until now. May I also add that we had him allergy tested 2 weeks ago and he came back with NO ALLERGIES at all. There has got to be a connection to dairy that is being overlooked in the testing and medical fields - if we can figure it out, why can't they?

These pictures were taken last Thursday evening. I wanted a record of how bad it was for future medical reference. We were getting very worried about staph infection. But I can't tell you how much better he is now. It is wonderful.

Moderators: If these photos are inappropriate, please feel free to delete them. I just thought it might help drive home the point for those still on the fence. Dairy is bad, bad : Organic Raw and Living Food is good, good.

[maraw]

MangoMommy - May I suggest you add "problems with eczema and dairy" to your post title so that more people will read it. There may be others that have this problem and the more than can benefit from this post, the better. It is so great of you to have started this. It is very motivating to move children over to raw and off of milk products. Thanks!

Anna

[Rawkinlocs]

Yes, this is a topic that speaks close to my heart!

My (now 7-year old) daughter suffered GREATLY from eczema in the past. It was very bad...large, oozing, scaly patches all over her body...it even made her hair come out. But after taking her off of dairy AND processed white products (sugar, flour, etc.) she recovered more rapidly than she ever did with any of those awful, nasty steriod creams.

Please don't give her that milk nor the cream they're prescribing!

Maraw, aww the poor baby! I know firsthand of how you must have felt seeing your baby with that rash. My little one used to scratch and scratch...even in her sleep she would scratch uncontrollably. It was heartbreaking to watch and not know what to do to help her and what the doctors and dermatologists were giving her was making matters worse!

I get teary just thinking about how much she suffered. And to think all I had to do was change her diet (and mine as I was nursing and not eating much better).

But I'm just thankful that all that is behind now!

[maraw]

Funny thing just happened. I sent a copy of MangoMommy's original post to my husband via email. He just called to ask if I was MangoMommy! The story is exactly the same as ours.

Isn't it amazing - so many of us can come to the same health conclusion, but it will take 50 billion dollars worth of research and another 50 years before any traditional doctor is willing to suggest it as a possible cure. I wonder how long it will take before people start really seeing the link between cancer and heart disease and hydrogenated fats and processed foods - OK, don't get me started. I'll be quite now and let someone else rant for a bit.

[mbf]

I do the same as Purl, smile and nod. My son told them he is a vegetarian and you would not believe the negative rant I got form this doctor ! We no longer see her....

My son had eczema on his cheeks, elbows and knees. I knew it was diet related but couldn't pu tmy finger on what it was until last summer it got so much worse one week so Ikept a food journal for him and it was the ice cream he was eating during the day after dinner !

The only dairy he eats now is cheese on pizza and his cheeks flare up right away !

best of luck ! and listen to your instincts.

MBF

[Arky]

...we had him allergy tested 2 weeks ago and he came back with NO ALLERGIES at all. There has got to be a connection to dairy that is being overlooked in the testing and medical fields - if we can figure it out, why can't they?

It saddens me greatly to say this, but how powerful do you think the alopathic, pharmaceutical, and dairy industries are?

Therein may lie the answer to your question :(

Antibiotics, growth hormones, homogenisation (breaks the fat particles into smaller clusters so that the milk does not seperate, but these smaller clusters are not recognised properly by the body since they are not natural), pasteurisational destruction of enzymes, extremely high levels of caseine (meant, by nature, for the support of hoof growth - human babies have absolutely NO need for Caseine since they do not have hooves - instead, their poor bodies must fight off this substance as an 'invader', totally alien to their own physiology), lactose (broken down more easily in the gut when the natural enzymes and bacteria are present, but which pasteurisation and antibiotics destroys. There's also the luck-of-the-draw as to whether or not the child is blessed with lactase for the purpose). The list goes on.

There might conceivably be an argument for the use of raw, organic goats milk (vegan values notwithstanding), despite the moderate potential for contamination of the milk by unfriendly micro organisms. However, the Hunza provide an interesting example - they breast feed their children for THREE years (sometimes a surrogate breast feeder may be necessary) and their children are extremely healthy. So strong is this custom that it is frowned upon very seriously for a mother to become pregnant again before three years have elapsed since birth of the preceding child.

It is obvious that nature intended children to be milk fed, but intended this to be from the human mother's breast - attempting to substitute a denatured and physiologically-inappropriate milk and to expect the same excellent results simply doesn't make sense, much though the dark forces of commerce attempt to convince us otherwise.

I'm glad you've taken matters into your own hands and done something wonderful for your child by eliminating dairy allergens from the diet. However, much of the dogmatism of the medical profession, in encouraging the use of dairy where the breast is not an option, stems from a misguided belief that it is an almost-direct equivalent of human breast milk, which, as described above, it most definitely is not. While they fail to acknowledge this, they are, in their defence, striving to ensure that the growing child has a good balance of nutrients critical to normal healthy development.

Calcium has already been mentioned but vitamin A, D and EFAs (in quite large quanitites for the rapidly dividing cells - cell memebranes are largely composed of EFAs) are also absolutely vital for healthy development of young children so do make sure, any of you that are eliminating milk from your childrens' diet, that you find suitable dietary alternatives to compensate for the lack of nutrients that would otherwise have been provided. Whatever you do, PLEASE do not opt for soy milk - there are a whole litany of negative issues associated with soy products which you do not want your child to be exposed to, despite the assurances of those same commercial forces mentioned above:

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=911

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1616

http://www.rawfoodtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?p=48524#post48524


So avoid soymilk and keep in mind that juices alone (healthy though they are) will not suffice, on their own, as a substitute to breast milk - nature, of course, knows this all too well.

Lastly, don't forget the great importance of Medium Chain Fatty Acids (MCFAs), which are abundant in human breast milk. These may be found in raw coconut flesh and oil. You should definitely consider including some form of coconut in any child's diet if they are not being breast fed.

Great thread, by the way :)


J.

[MangoMommy]

Wow!! I feel terrible that so many sweet little bodies have gone through this!! It angers me that there are probably thousands out there that are experiencing the exact same thing and following their dr's orders to the "T" in hopes of helping their little ones when in reality it is as simple as removing dairy from their diet. Thank you for sharing your experiences and your encouragement. I will definitely follow my instincts and remove dairy from my son's diet!!

[maraw]

So avoid soymilk and keep in mind that juices alone (healthy though they are) will not suffice, on their own...

You have a great amount of knowledge on this subject J., thanks for sharing! We had switched him to soy milk for the time being, but that was causing diarrhea. So, I pulled him off of that yesterday and moved him to an orange juice with calcium. I know this is not a complete source of calcium - can you suggest a better one? The only ones I know that are really substantial are dairy, soy, and sesame seeds. Mind you, my son is only 3 and won't eat things like sea veggies, etc. I wonder about almond milk, or maybe I could make some sesame milk. Any suggestions?

Thanks again for such a wonderful addition to this thread.

Anna

[ljcoolj]

Neither of my children are on dairy either. My youngest son, who is 2 1/2, developed some skin problems...dry patches, small bumps..and he would constantly itch and scratch. Thru a friend, I learned about Arbonne skin care products, they have a wonderful baby care line. My son's skin is fine now and the change was almost immediate. Loved Arbonne so much that I'm now a part-time consultant. Great products for all kinds of skin conditions!!

[MangoMommy]

Maraw...I had tried soy milk too and that did not seem to help his eczema and just as Arky mentioned found that soy really isn't all that great for anyone.

My son is a very picky eater and he does like almond milk which has a high calcium content. ;)

[maraw]

Thank you MangoMommy. I really like almond milk and will give it a go with him. I can sweeten it up a little with some agave nectar so maybe he would find it more appealing it. He likes Soy Milk (store bought) I think mostly because it is so sweet. Thanks SO much - I'll make some this afternoon and see what he thinks of it!

BTW, I just received a call from his pediatrician. He is a wonderful man with a really kind and happy heart. I told him what results we had with omitting dairy and was pleased to hear of our progress. He did suggest we try to reintroduce dairy in 6 months, but I told he we probably wouldn't. He said that would be fine, but we need to compliment his diet with more leafy greens, nuts, juice with calcium and lots of sunshine. I was pleased and impressed to say the least.

I will let you know how the almond milk goes... wish us luck!

[Sheryl]

I think the problem with allergy tests is that there is an assumption that if you have an problem with food it's an allergy. And most allergy only test for one variation of allergy (skin) when that is only one method of immune response the body has. Skin might not react, but blood might (one type of allergy test in Australia uses live blood and mixes small amounts with different foods to see if there is an immune response).

Anyhow, back to my original point... if someone is sensitive to the hormones or chemicals in milk it won't test as an allergy. However when you remove the food and great things happen, then you know. Often we don't need a 'test' to prove what the cause is. If you're careful and watch diet as so many of you have done.. just see the results for yourself. Now this wouldn't stand up in our societies medical based expectation of double blind studies... but do we care? If it works for you go for it! We don't need to understand every little bit of science to live a healthy life. In fact I think if we did we might all go MAD!!!

How often are we told again and again that what people eat has NOTHING to do with acne. Well I can tell you my face will be perfect, and in the last few years when I go off raw and eat something silly like potato chips my face breaks out within days. EVERY SINGLE TIME!

Double blind scientific studies must isolate ONE VARIABLE to show accurately and scientifically their results. Any more muddies the waters and makes it impossible to form a conclusion. So tests for acne might mean someone gives up chocolate from their SAD diet. And they don't improve surprise surprise! Now if you added in donuts to a raw vegans diet... now you'd see some results!

That's my rant for today! See you all tomorrow!
Sheryl

[dreamrawalwz]

I think the problem with allergy tests is that there is an assumption that if you have an problem with food it's an allergy. And most allergy only test for one variation of allergy (skin) when that is only one method of immune response the body has. Skin might not react, but blood might (one type of allergy test in Australia uses live blood and mixes small amounts with different foods to see if there is an immune response).

Anyhow, back to my original point... if someone is sensitive to the hormones or chemicals in milk it won't test as an allergy. However when you remove the food and great things happen, then you know. Often we don't need a 'test' to prove what the cause is. If you're careful and watch diet as so many of you have done.. just see the results for yourself. Now this wouldn't stand up in our societies medical based expectation of double blind studies... but do we care? If it works for you go for it! We don't need to understand every little bit of science to live a healthy life. In fact I think if we did we might all go MAD!!!

How often are we told again and again that what people eat has NOTHING to do with acne. Well I can tell you my face will be perfect, and in the last few years when I go off raw and eat something silly like potato chips my face breaks out within days. EVERY SINGLE TIME!

Double blind scientific studies must isolate ONE VARIABLE to show accurately and scientifically their results. Any more muddies the waters and makes it impossible to form a conclusion. So tests for acne might mean someone gives up chocolate from their SAD diet. And they don't improve surprise surprise! Now if you added in donuts to a raw vegans diet... now you'd see some results!

That's my rant for today! See you all tomorrow!
Sheryl

While I was having all my reactions to foods we went to several doctors saying it's not possible to have xxx symptom or be allergic to these foods. I went to the allergest and di the skin prick and nothing came up positive. I did a blood test kit at home and EVERY single food I thought I was having a reaction to came up positive. Just go with your instinct.

[Conscious Midwife]

Hmmmm. :o

Wish I had known about the Milk excema connection 14 years ago.
When my daughters (now 14&18) were born I was told by mynmother and grandmother NOT to breastfeed. They made nursing seem so awful, painful and shameful..telling me things like, "you don't want a titty baby", "they'll be spoiled" etc.... :eek:


:mad: So my oldest DD had projectile vomiting for 1 year why we went through every variety of formula and milk including goats milk. Only to find out the latch over her stomach wasn't closing properly, so gulping down milk of any kind through silcon nipples only exacerbated the problem which resolved itself when she got older. My second DD suffered some excema, terrible wheezing and vomiting thanks to dairy. The vomiting so bad she would saturate her clothes and carpet, then cry from the gut wrenching pain.

It wasn't until she was two and could tell me that "milk makes me throw up", that I could bring her relief. The excema was gone, wheezing and phlem build up stopped and no more throwing up. The only problem was she had already had several rounds of steroids and 4x/day breathing machine treatments before we reversed the situation. To this day my DD is bulky and overweight. No flabby belly or baby fat but solid and bulky, like someone deliberately on "roids" for competitive sports or something. :eek:

With a few years more confidence in my own choices and tried and true practice I nursed my next three babies, without dificulty an without food sensitivity issues.

We skip doctors unless someone is sick unto death or a sports physical is required. :p

Congrats to all parents who operate out of common sense and intuition for the sake of your childrens better health.

[theresaann]

maraw~about calcium-Victoria Boutenko said that sesame seeds have the most calcium of any plant food. How about trying raw sesame milk? It tastes unbelievable to me, and you could sweeten it with honey, dates, whatever. So easy-you don't even have to soak them first....

[English Tracy]

I haven't read every post on this thread in detail but my son (now a 19 year old bodybuilder) had severe eczema on his face when he was a baby and a homeopath recommended Vitamin E oil (also known as wheatgerm oil). The patches looked as though he had burns on his cheeks, so they were pretty severe.

I bought some Vit E oil and applied it regularly and within about 10 days the eczema disappeared and never came back.

I know Vitamin E is supposed to reduce scarring as well. Truly a miracle product.

Tracy

[coolchalk]

Maraw,

This is Amy from Texas. :) My almost 2 yo son had awful oozing, bleeding ezcema on his face his first full year, but he hasn't had it since. He was solely breastfed his first year and I was using cheese and butter. (Shame on me!) Needless to say, I wasn't perfect at the raw thing. He's doing fine now. He still breastfeeds, and I don't use dairy anymore. They use rice milk, which I buy from the store, but it doesn't have the calcium he needs. I prepare green smoothies and share them with him. My older kids eat a small simple salad about 2-3 times a week, but I'm working towards a daily salad for them. It seems to work fine as long as they get to pick the dressing. LOL

Anyway, regarding calcium intake, I tried the sesame milk, which is very good with dates, but I understand green smoothies offer the most calcium (via Green For Life by Victoria Boutenko). Jacob LOVES green smoothies. His favorite is romaine lettuce or green lettuce, with bananas and strawberries. There's loads of calcium in baby spinach and other greens! The smoothies make eating greens bearable, because the fruit makes it palatable. I love them myself.

Hope that helps,

Amy :)

[myssi]

I have had similar issues with dairy and my now 5 year old son. Starting when he was about 1 or so, he would react to cheese immediately (violently throwing up) and to milk (with horrible painful, runny BMs).

The doctor said it wasn't lactose intolorance because there wasn't much lactose in cheese so it shouldn't produce that reaction and it wasn't consistant with an allergy either. (I dont' know if that's true, but it's what I was told). Here's the shocker--I was told they see that in young children quite often and to just keep trying to give dairy products--he should eventually grow out of it.

Being naive, I did what I was told by the doctor, against my best judgement, and he did seem to grow out of it, but he has some type of excema that is only on the soles of his feet (I forgot what it's called) that was/is definitely affected by dairy too!

BUT--that was before I learned how bad dairy is! Looking back, his little body was reacting to something it knew wasn't good for it. Now I do the same thing as mentioned in an above post--just smile and nod and go about our business at home.

ALL MOTHERS--TRUST YOUR OWN INTUITION! (or find a doc that shares your views of health) :p

Great info all!

Myssi

[Rawmommyof2-Sacramento]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

I was about to post THIS VERY SAME THREAD! Wow! For the past month, my 3 year-old son has suffered EXACTLY the same condition. Until last Thursday when a friend reminded me about something I told her years ago about the connection between dairy and eczema. So, in a last ditch effort, we pulled him off of all dairy (my son is a great lover of raw food fortunately, but I have two die-hard girls that love their cheese and we keep it in the house because of them - that is, until now). Well, the results were amazing. It is now Wednesday and the rash is almost completely gone. We've been to his pediatrician, twice, the allergist, immunologist and were on the way to the dermatologist later this week - but now I can cancel the appointment! And yes, they have prescribed steroids, both oral and topical (we didn't use them though), and lots of different moisterizers. Nothing, and I mean nothing has worked until now. May I also add that we had him allergy tested 2 weeks ago and he came back with NO ALLERGIES at all. There has got to be a connection to dairy that is being overlooked in the testing and medical fields - if we can figure it out, why can't they?

These pictures were taken last Thursday evening. I wanted a record of how bad it was for future medical reference. We were getting very worried about staph infection. But I can't tell you how much better he is now. It is wonderful.

Moderators: If these photos are inappropriate, please feel free to delete them. I just thought it might help drive home the point for those still on the fence. Dairy is bad, bad : Organic Raw and Living Food is good, good.
Hope your little guy feels better....

[maraw]

As I type this my son is sitting in my lap. I showed him the images above and he didn't even recognize himself. I hardly do either. His recovery is nothing short of miraculous.

Thanks everyone for your encouragement and support. And MangoMommy, I really didn't mean to dominate this thread. I hope you are not too upset with me. Thanks for starting this... how is your son doing?

[eatyourbroccoli]

that is awful

:mad:

and how many years of schooling do pediatricians need?

i hope he's feel better. keep him away from that dairy!! :)

:cool:

[MangoMommy]

As I type this my son is sitting in my lap. I showed him the images above and he didn't even recognize himself. I hardly do either. His recovery is nothing short of miraculous.

Thanks everyone for your encouragement and support. And MangoMommy, I really didn't mean to dominate this thread. I hope you are not too upset with me. Thanks for starting this... how is your son doing?

Maraw...absolutely not!! I want to get this information out. I can't believe how many children have had to needlessly suffer with this and if thread helps anyone who is dealing with this I would be so happy.

You had mentioned in one of your earlier posts about renaming this thread...well, i just figured out how to edit my own posts yesterday :o ...do you think it would be too late to change it now??

My son is doing much better too...thanks!!

[robertandenith]

I recommend FLAX SEED CRACKERS!!! My daughter loves them and you can make them in a dehydrator!!!

talking about steriods...
http://blog.familianatural.com/2006/04/nios-antibiticos-y-esteroides-para-mi.html
here is a blog where I record things that happened to us, is in Spanish so you may not understand! lol, but I talk about how the flax seed crackers helped us! Flax Seed is a great source of Omega -3 which helps produce antiinflamatory hormones (same as steriods but NATURAL). Flax seed is the vegetarian version of the fish oil. I was giving Serena at least 10 crackers a day when she got an acute allergy due to an antibiotic. Since then, I started doing holistic medicine in my household. It's insane how doctors can make things worse by prescribing drugs! :mad:

[bootzey]

I had excema as a child. Really bad excema, I can still feel it when I'm under intense stress. I used to purposefully misbehave so that I would be spanked as a punishment. It would hurt, yet feel good. I wished my mother could have known about the dairy connection when I was a child.

[maraw]

...well, i just figured out how to edit my own posts yesterday :o ...do you think it would be too late to change it now??

My son is doing much better too...thanks!!

I am SO glad to hear your son is finally feeling better too. We are still dealing with some grain allergies and have removed them all from the house. It is really helping everyone, but especially our little boy.

MM, since people are still posting on this thread, I don't think it is too late to rename it at all! I think there are still many many people who need to read this around here. Who knows who it might help?

Thanks again for starting it!

[Arky]

Hey, MangoMommy, I'm just wondering how you are getting on, now?


J.

[kimkc]

Forgive your child's doctor for her ignorance and keep your child away from all dairy products/derivatives! That is what David Cohen at the notmilk website told me after I mentioned the health concern my doctor had after taking my then 2 1/2 year old milk-addicted/ADHD daughter off of all dairy. My daughter even went through horrible withdrawal at almost 2 weeks after we took her off of dairy last November. I wrote a long letter to the doctor stating the observations that our family observed (before and after dairy) and she called me from the clinic one evening to thank me for educating her about the link between autistic/ADHD behavior and dairy "allergies". She had stayed up to midnight the night before on the computer and didn't know such a connection. Well, to make a long story short...our whole family became dairy-free late January and have reaped the benefits. I am almost vegan and working on going raw vegan. Me (PMS/horrible periods are gone!), my husband and 5 children have had many annoying health problems resolved by giving up dairy. My 11 year-old daughter had all eczema disappear around her nose once she gave up milk, emotionally she is much better balanced and no elbow eczema this spring so far which is another improvement! Our family's story will be featured in a book called Toxic Tales that is in the process of being written in the UK. By the way, our daughter that started us on this diet change is doing fabulous with behavior, language returned, sleep pattern more normal, etc. Hooray!

[Arky]

Fantastic!


J.

[Faithfullyfit]

Maraw...I had tried soy milk too and that did not seem to help his eczema and just as Arky mentioned found that soy really isn't all that great for anyone.

My son is a very picky eater and he does like almond milk which has a high calcium content. ;)


My blood pressure goes up while reading all of these posts!!!!
It is so amazing how many things we have to learn on our own because doctor's don't have a clue.My daughter's ped had me supplement my breast feeding at 8 weeks old said "she was not thriving"- not what a first time mother who is hormonal wants to hear.....so, added formula...showed some digestive difficulties....switched her to soy based formula.....she did not want nurse anymore? I fed her soy everything cheese, cereals, etc... she is now 8 with depressed thyroid function and estrogen dominance- experiencing precocious puberty, I have to shave her legs and underarms- :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: What have I done to my poor daughter- I have now done so much reading and have found documented studies of soy's phyto estrogen effect on infants...tried to dicuss my findings with my daughters ped....she looked at me as if I had 3 heads!

So, I have switched both my son and my daughter to almond milk and was excited to find almond cheese at whole foods- until last night I looked at the label closer- "Casein- milk protien" 3rd ingredient! We have to take charge if we want to protect our kids from so much ignorance in the medical profession!

All of your children are so blessed to have mothers who are so pro active and concerned that they will look out for them! We are all so fortunate to have gained this knowlege for them :)

Have a GREAT day!

[NoGMO!]

great thread! changes in healthcare are long overdue!

[MangoMommy]

Arky...My son is doing much better, thanks. Since I took him off dairy he improved drastically. He hasn't needed his meds in months and hasnt needed the steroid cream even longer. It did take a while for the eczema to go away completely, actually he still has some around his ankles. I did notice that when he gets over tired he scratches a lot in his neck..not sure why

[Pailani]

So, my toddler shouldn't be consuming soy either? She's recently been on a chocolate soy milk kick, and I've been thrilled about that because, before that, she wouldn't drink a thing except for her nursing. She had to be put on a daily prescription laxative powder because it was affecting her elimination - she just wouldn't drink anything. So when she started wanting 3 cups of chocolate soy milk a day and I was able to take her off the prescription, I was very happy. My sons love the chocolate soy milk, too - I've been letting them have a cup every day for the calcium since we're mostly non-dairy.

Just how bad is soy? And how much is bad?

I guess I could try chocolate rice milk for my 2 1/2 year old.

[BDraw]

I have another sugguestion for the cause of exzema -- kids pajamas. My 4 year old has/had exzema since we adopted her at 2 1/2. We took her off all soy and all last summer did 100% raw. Things looked great. Then for some reason this winter her exzema flared up really bad. The pictures of the little one earlier are minor compared to how her legs and arms looked. Anyway all winter it continued to worsen and I could not figure out why. She had no diary at all! Spring comes and we also went to doctor for check up. She ordered meds. We used them, well half of them. Things cleared up immediately. I thought it was the meds and felt really bad for not doing something sooner. Then about 3 weeks later she started wearing her winter pjs again. It took a week or so for me to notice, but the exzema started coming back. It took anther week or so for me to put "2 AND 2" together. It must be the pjs. The flame retartant in them. Needless to say, we are going to burn those pjs!

So check out your kiddo's jammies! They may be the culprit!

[Sharon in Colorado]

That is interesting as my daughter has these little sharp bumps on her arms, and she wore long sleeves all year long until this summer when she started wearing short sleeved t-shirts.

I had a feeling that she needed more air and sun exposure on her arms, as her legs are also like that but not her face which is never covered up.

So I think it is also important to get fresh air and safe sun (when your shadow is longer than you) on all places of the skin when possible.

[denisedeland]

If a child has a sensitivity to Dairy why in the world would you want to give him more of it?? It seems that the doc is really not listening to you. And to suggest meds.. Unreal.. I would also want to seek out a non medical natural way of healing. Some doctors just suprise me..

Denise

[Sheryl]

Pailani,

My understanding (the mom's here jump in please) is that kids exclusively on breastmilk don't have much need for elinimation since the food is so perfectly suited for them, as compared to kids on milk / soy formula. Isn't that normal????

I'm shocked kids would be put on drugs simply because they are breast milk fed only. Did she have actual complications that needed treating?

Curious,
Sheryl

[berrymarymac]

That is awful! I was talking to my mom today about all of this, about doctors not knowing much about nutrition. My dad is a doctor...well, an OB/GYN and was in charge of residency at a large university and maybe a day was covered on nutrition for all of the residents! I think they should take a complete course, etc in it instead of less than a day! Just thought I would add that...

[dreamrawalwz]

That is awful! I was talking to my mom today about all of this, about doctors not knowing much about nutrition. My dad is a doctor...well, an OB/GYN and was in charge of residency at a large university and maybe a day was covered on nutrition for all of the residents! I think they should take a complete course, etc in it instead of less than a day! Just thought I would add that...

That's true, but I think at this point that class would still teach that you "need meats and dairy" to stay "healthy". We need "alternative" nutrition classes for doctors....whihc shouldn't be considered alternative, but mainstream.

[berrymarymac]

That's true, but I think at this point that class would still teach that you "need meats and dairy" to stay "healthy". We need "alternative" nutrition classes for doctors....whihc shouldn't be considered alternative, but mainstream.


Yeah, very true!

[Mical]

My daugher is five. When she was three she had horrible eczema or psoriasis. Anyway, she was mostly nondairy just from my beliefs, so I called a guru demrmatologist: cream, ointments, change soaps, change clothing . . . change everything but the body itself. Same as the others, waking up in the middle of the night crying and crying, inflamed, red, put her in an oatmeal bath a couple times a night, bleary, bug eyed from sleep deprivation . . . slab more horrible cortizone on her tender little skin. Both of us cry ourselves back to sleep.

Two or three week of this getting worse, I went to the naturopath and was told to take her entirely off dairy and wheat and supplemented her with oils and folic acid. It was completely healed within a week.

Told her pediatrician about it at her annual check up. He said it couldn't be related. But he also said it was fine to give her rice or soy milk instead as long as it was enriched.

Also for some reason, she could always eat organic plain yogurt, which she always loved.

Just another "yep", you're heard, you're smart and go find a pediatrican with better nutritional background . . . at least one smart enough to let parents know they CAN raise healthy kids without dairy. My daughter's kidney specialist (birth defect) said outright, cut out the dairy (without knowing I had a long time ago)! And he's considered on the nation's top infant urinary pediatric surgeons.