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RawMagnolia
03-06-2006, 09:52 AM
Does anyone know of any good articles of how to go RAW if you have Diabetes... or how RAW will cure Diabetes (Adult onset Type II)??

Thanks,
Sandra

Queenie
03-06-2006, 10:14 AM
I don't know of any articles per se, but Dr. Robert Morse has very good success with diabetes (I think his cure rate with is is 100%) using raw food and herbal tinctures. His website is

http://www.godsherbs.com/home.htm

He is a fabulous person, also. If you don't want to pay his clinic fees, you can post on his message board and his assistant will help you decide which herbs are best.

Good luck!!

RawMagnolia
03-06-2006, 10:22 AM
Thanks Queenie...

I'll take a look at the site you posted. I'm definitely looking for articles and "how to's" as this is for a relative of my husband. He can barely walk, and is in pretty sad shape. I've never met him, but I'd like to send him some litterature... as why stay in pain (arthritis/diabetes) when there are ways to heal yourself naturally ya know?

Thanks a bunch for your thoughts!!
Sandra

THX-1138
03-06-2006, 11:06 AM
This guy cured his diabetes (and his heart disease and his arthritis) on a raw diet.

http://www.ecopolitan.com/eco-life/testimonials/james-martin

RawMagnolia
03-06-2006, 11:32 AM
Thanks THX-1138... that's a great article. Wish it had more of a "how" and "what exactly did he eat" in it... but it's a great start!!!

Any more.... anyone??? :D

Sharon in Colorado
03-06-2006, 11:35 AM
Diabetes discussion from: http://www.vegsource.com/talk/raw/messages/99919713.html

Q: I have been diagnosed with type II diabetes. I am able to keep my fasting blood sugar at about 111 if I don't have any fruits, sugars, or starches. I truly like what I read on vegsource about your 811 program. However, lots of fruits and going without fats or proteins for hours at a time doesn't seem good for a diabetic ... at least according to what "standard" diabetic nutritionists have to say. Do you feel that your plan would be appropriate for a type II diabetic (not on any medications)? Do you know of many diabetics that have had success with it? I am looking for the healthiest and easiest diets that I can find. I am overweight and I have found that one of the major keys to successfully losing weight for me is ease and simplicity in whatever diet I follow as well as something that keeps me from being hungry all the time. Guess that is why so many people try out the South Beach diet ... no hunger ... and imagine it would keep my blood sugar in check ... but, philosophically and in my heart I truly don't want to go that way. Thanks for your insight.

A: I have seen successes with hundreds of type II diabetics following my 811 plan. I won't go into all the details of chemistry here, as I cover diabetes, in depth, in my upcoming 80/10/10 Diet book, to be released this spring.
Feel free to ask any questions, however, that you need to.
If you wish to remain diabetic for life, but under control, try the diet the docs recommend. If you wish to get healthy, and to bring your weight back under your control, go 80/10/10 would be my advice.
Dr D

Q: Very interested in purchasing your book 80-10-10 Diet when it comes out in the spring. But, believe I would like to start your program as soon as possible. How/where can I get enough details to get started or is "fruit all day and a leafy salad with tomatoes and celery for dinner" all I need to know? And, no supplements needed at all, correct?
A: In my opinion, all the fruit compatible with you during a day and a big salad for dinner sounds pretty good. If you eat a varied diet and you fulfill your calorie needs, eating seasonal fruit and veggies, it should not be necessary to supplement. However, it will always be individual.
Q: What about type I diabetes? I know some people who have type 1; I suppose 80/10/10 diet (as well lifestyle) would help them greatly?
A: I am no expert, but I do have some personal experience with diabetes type 1 and raw food. I have had diabetes since I was 13 (diagnosed in 1982). I stopped eating meat three years later, but started eating fish and some poultry again when I had children, due to stupid advice from health care people.
It's a long story, but I went vegan 4 years ago and one year later I started eating 80% raw food, slowly increasing the raw food, so that I am now close to 100% raw. I try to follow 811, but I like nuts and almonds, so sometimes I have too many of them...
I had very good results from these changes in my diet. I have cut my insulin need by 40%. I have stopped taking any other medication (used to take 7 tablets every day to control blood pressure and allergies). I can breathe through my nose!! I have no backache and no headache. I am no longer constipated. I feel better and look better.
But. Eating raw food is no miracle cure. I still have problems controlling my blood sugar and my blood pressure is a little too high. I know I can improve both and have succeeded in doing this. Just sometimes I am lazy or I don't feel like being the "strange health freak", so I compromise and eat something cooked and/or salty and/or fat.
My experience is:
1. Daily exercise is even more important than what I eat. I try to get at least some exercise every day. When I fail, it is immediately reflected in higher insulin needs and unstable blood sugar. To not get bored, I switch between running, weight lifting, yoga, bicycling and various other types. Cleaning, painting walls and other physical work is excellent too :o)
2. Fat is worse than fruit sugar when it comes to high blood sugar. When I eat low fat raw vegan food, my blood sugar is fine. Only if I mix with fat or with cooked starches (as in bread), I have problems. It's true that fruit makes blood sugar rise, but it falls down quickly again. But fat causes the sugar to stay in the blood, so the blood sugar is high for a long time. Eating fruit is supposed to be bad for people with diabetes. We are recommended to not eat more than a few pieces of fruit every day. And we are told to use artificial sugar replacement, as in diet coke and special "diabetes foods". This is insane. But I am probably the only diabetic person in Denmark eating this way, so doctors have no experience with this. They only know what happens when a lot of fruit is ADDED to a "normal" diet - high blood sugar. They have no idea what happens when "normal" diet is REPLACED by fruit. And - sadly - they don't want to know.
So... I would recommend any person with diabetes to try eating low fat raw vegan food.
Just remember that food is only one factor. Exercise, sleep and stress also effects blood sugar very much.

Best wishes,
Lunaluna
Original poster: Thank you for your story and all of the information that you provided. It is greatly appreciated. As I do have a blood sugar monitor, I will be checking to see what sort of affect eating a lot of fruit will have on my system. But, it sounds so healthy and actually so delicious as well ... eating a lot of fruit and raw fresh veggies, too. Looking forward to seeing how my body reacts. I was somewhat hesitant, as you well know, the mainstream doctors tell you quite something else. Nice to hear from someone with some actual experience. Thanks again!

THX-1138
03-06-2006, 11:40 AM
Thanks THX-1138... that's a great article. Wish it had more of a "how" and "what exactly did he eat" in it... but it's a great start!!!

Any more.... anyone??? :D

I sort of know James as an acquaintence, and as far as I know, he eats pretty much what he feels like, as long as its raw and vegan. I know he's a big fan of fruit and that is a big portion of his diet.

You can probably ask Karenisraw since she is a frequent customer of the Ecopolitan and would most likely be able to get in touch with James.

RawMagnolia
03-06-2006, 11:40 AM
Thanks Sharon!!!!