I am truly sorry...

[faith4u]

I didn't mean to cause problems nor run anyone off of the board.

I will try to remember that if I post in the future it will be only with positive experiences about going raw instead of the struggles.

Again I am sorry, I was just looking for advice not trouble.

[sweetgoddess]

Hi faith4u. That is really sweet and kind of you. I would like you to know though that you didn't cause anything. People are free to, and also responsible for making their own choices and choosing their reactions.

Until you run a forum this large with this many people, it is hard to realize the effort it takes to keep it organized and easy to use , for the purpose people are coming here. If we made no effort to keep the theme, the chaos would amaze you, not to mention it would make this forum very difficult to use, and really, not feel good at all. We don't want that! We want people to feel good here, inspired and supported and motivated.

We strive to keep this forum informative and supportive, welcoming, friendly and easy to use. Sometimes people react when we have to take action to keep the forum based on its theme, but that cannot be helped. The alternative is not very beneficial. It is never a judgement issue, never an attitude it is merely the challenging task of keeping this the friendly, uplifting place it is, for people in support of raw, vegan food.

And just to help you understand, you were not advised against and were in fact supported regarding sharing the struggles of going raw. We just simply aren't here to share the challenges and struggles of going cooked, thats all it is. If I decided I wanted to transition to an all meat diet (don't panic, just an extreme yucky example :p ), then realizing that is not the theme or purpose of this particular forum, I would not post it here.
Its just a theme!

Smile, you are valued!
I wish you a brilliant, uplifting day.
Warmly~
Carmel

[misslinda]

Hey Faith,

Carmella said it perfectly. It's not a personal attack on you--WE STILL LOVE YOU!!!!! ;)

We'd love to hear your struggles and help you work thru them :) :)


Blowing kisses,

ml :)

[Revvell]

It's not a personal attack on you--ml :)

To clarify ~ it wasn't an attack at all ~ personal or otherwise. It was an explanation and clarification of the purpose of this site.

Revvell

[JMD]

go easy faith---you are totally FORGIVEN go in peace and be guilt free....

:)

[surfergrrl]

Carmel said it best!

[julesmoz]

You're so sweet, Faith, and we're blessed to have you on the boards! We're totally behind you, and want to support you however we can. I know it's not easy when you have to scale back some of your goals in order to keep in step with the rest of your life, and I highly admire you keeping your priorities in check and making sure you don't neglect your family for raw! It sounds to me like you're on the right track, and I think it's really wise to not cause raw to give you a bad relationship with food again. Been there, done that, and I know it feels like bondage!

I say scale back to whatever is manageable, and see how you feel. If you feel great, then you'll know you've found the right balance for you. If you feel rotten, then you'll have a lot more motivation to stick with 100% when you come back. Kudos, too, for not just throwing in the towel. 80% raw is not a failure. 80% (even 50%) is leagues better than the traditional SAD. Just do what you can. Before you eat, ask yourself if you'd mind eating a piece of fruit, or something easy that's raw. If you don't, then go for it. If you have a violent emotional reaction to it, then let it go. Just make sure you don't put raw completely out of sight, out of mind. You've worked really hard to get to the point where you are now, so may as well take as much advantage of it as possible, even in your less-raw transition.

I thought that was so good what someone else said -- to be or not to be raw is not a moral issue. The moral issue is making sure you don't get tangled up with food in a bad way, and making sure you can keep yourself in the mental/emotional condition to be able to love on your family and friends. What wisdom you have to not let raw steal the joy from your life!

We're here for you, and rootin' for you . . . no matter how raw or not-raw you decide to be!

Love,
Julia

[RawTruth]

::tiptoes in to see if the drama's over now so we can keep on having fun::

[misslinda]

To clarify ~ it wasn't an attack at all ~ personal or otherwise. It was an explanation and clarification of the purpose of this site.

Revvell


OOPS! that was a good point Revvell and let me make my words my clarified. I was referring to the way Faith was "feeling" in this post. not what intially happened. i don't even know if I can put in words :p Dang, do you have to be so analytical???? I thought I was......... :p :D :) ps wearing yur hand me down bell bottoms!!!!!!!!!!! :D


YESSSSSSSSS Rawtruth, did someone say FUN?????? :p

[Pansy]

I second that motion....RawTruth and Misslinda!

Have fun and EAT RAW!

Pansy ;)

[Shivananda]

This point could easily be overlooked, I think, but the fundamental issue I saw with the original post was simply that you came at an issue you were wrestling with from the wrong perspective, given the intention and purpose behind this Forum's very existence.

What I mean by that is that if you had simply said something like: "I am trying to follow an all raw diet, but I'm experiencing the following challenges: 1) My husband hates the food. 2) I have a lot of gas. 3) We raise cows for our living and I feel disloyal to our business. Help, what do I do?"

or whatever the actual details are for you specifically... :D

If you had asked that way I think you would have gotten a lot of inspiring and helpful support here, and everyone would have benefitted from the discussion.

This different frame for looking at your issue... "please support me to find a solution to the problem I'm facing trying to eat raw"... would be appropriate to the theme of this board, rather than saying, essentially, "I've decided to quit so I can avoid dealing with this problem. Please help me escape."

See the difference? In the former you are open minded, but in the latter you have already made a decision, and are closed minded and making the raw diet wrong.

[RawTruth]

This point could easily be overlooked, I think, but the fundamental issue I saw with the original post was simply that you came at an issue you were wrestling with from the wrong perspective, given the intention and purpose behind this Forum's very existence.

What I mean by that is that if you had simply said something like: "I am trying to follow an all raw diet, but I'm experiencing the following challenges: 1) My husband hates the food. 2) I have a lot of gas. 3) We raise cows for our living and I feel disloyal to our business. Help, what do I do?"

or whatever the actual details are for you specifically... :D

If you had asked that way I think you would have gotten a lot of inspiring and helpful support here, and everyone would have benefitted from the discussion.

This different frame for looking at your issue... "please support me to find a solution to the problem I'm facing trying to eat raw"... would be appropriate to the theme of this board, rather than saying, essentially, "I've decided to quit so I can avoid dealing with this problem. Please help me escape."

See the difference? In the former you are open minded, but in the latter you have already made a decision, and are closed minded and making the raw diet wrong.Very clear explanation.