View Full Version : Poll: ordering raw vegan food
02-25-2006, 01:48 PM
Would you order from a raw vegan company if you knew that the people who packed your food ate at McDonalds everyday? Or would you rather compromise in having your package delayed by the workers being possibly older, slower, yet vegan? Just curious where peoples ethics really lie. Whats more important, production or ethics?
Interesting ... You said "workers being possibly older, slower, yet vegan" rather than raw vegan.
I was never vegan before becoming raw. Raw in my opinion lends itself to being animal free to a certain extent. I would not want raw meat. And when free of that the dairy naturally follows. However I am not free yet of the idea of using raw honey. I personally rarely use it, just not an aversion. Although I realize the bees are being robbed.
As far as workers. I certainly would like the employees to reflect the beliefs of the business. There is only one place I order from at this time and have no idea about the employees personal lives. I will not order from a place that sells a few raw items among a vast array of cooked items. The company I order from only sells raw organic. The owners only use raw organic in their personal lives. I feel safe ordering from them.
I do see your point, just had never thought about it.
02-25-2006, 03:18 PM
Wow. I never thought about it before.
I think for ME it would be taking it to far.
Does everyone in the Co-Op where I shop eat only raw vegan? Do the supermarket or farmers market employees where I sometimes buy produce eat raw organic vegan? Does the gas station guy eat raw organic vegan... does my employer eat it? Am I a hypocrite if I work for a company where almost everyone in the place eats a SAD diet except for me and one other person...
does this mean I can't buy the occaisional banana from the cafeteria lady because I see her frying up sausages for my coworkers?
Boy, I would have no family or friends if I took it this far....
I think I would drive myself nuts (a short trip by the way) :D
02-25-2006, 04:50 PM
I think I'd rather eat food I prepare myself at home. Restaurants sometimes can't be avoided, I guess...
02-25-2006, 07:32 PM
I guess my post wasn't as clear as I would have liked it to be. No I am not reflecting on ALL places we eat and buy food from. That would be impossible. Just wondering if it would matter to you if the places you ordered from that are known/advertised as being only raw, vegan organic food companies, if it would bother you if you knew that the workers that they hired were people that did not care an inch about their health, were overweight, thought eating at McDonalds every day was great, etc. Would this be a hipocracy of the company? Do you care?
For me personally, I used to work with disabled and elderly people and am very supportive of them. I have always valued what is right, ethically speaking. I am a very spiritual person and value my precepts. So personally, if I were running a company that stressed health, I'm not sure if I would feel comfortable hiring someone that didn't know/or care a thing about their health. I don't think as an employer, I could expect all my workers to be vegan, especially not raw, but I think I might require them to "care" a bit about their health. You can only hire from whom applies and depending upon where you live, there might not be a big choice.
I don't know what I would have in common working with a Big Mac attack waiting to happen! Not sure if that would create a good work environment with the other employees if they were health conscious individuals. I think it would reflect upon the company also. If given the choice between a veg older candidate that maybe wasn't as quick versus an overweight, McD's loving younger worker, I would go with the veg! I mean how would I feel as an older worker being thrown aside also?
But now I wonder. I used to work at a coop that was supposedly for the community. Yet they weren't! So now I think about what other "lies" are out there. Is free trade really free trade? Who is REALLY profiting? Are there ANY businesses out there that think beyond the profit? What truths are being told out there on this product and that product or is it just more lies, all for the money. Is this why I am so poor? Yes, nice people not only finish last, they don't get paid much in the process. Just curious what others think. Do you really care where your money that is spent goes and supports? Or does it just matter that you get what you want, fast, quick and properly done?
Yes, I'm asking beyond what that focus is here, but I like to know the truth, and I wonder if what I feel is the right thing to do is really not a possibility in the world we live in today. Competition is about better, faster, quicker. That does not equate with honesty, compassion, being moraly correct. If I am going on the deep end here, today I am fasting. So my brain is wondering in the clouds!!
02-25-2006, 07:54 PM
I do not order from any companies.
however, I am not a control freek, so I am who I am, and I am happy that others are who they are.
I am not into trying to control anyone's choices.
I think it best to teach by example, not coersion.
The people who work for me are not raw, vegan or even vegetarian, and yet they do a great job.
I do my best to love all beings on the planet, even the cougar, who eats the coyote who eats the chickens who eats the worms, I don't think any one or any being is wrong or right, they just are what they are.
The Goddess created all in perfection, even the challenges. At least that is my belief.
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