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JinxieKat
02-18-2006, 12:00 PM
How do you survive the 'Frenzies'? I've been thinking on this all morning. You may not have heard the term 'Frenzies' before, but I'm sure you'll recognise it, either in yourself or in others. You find a new thing, it's exciting, interesting, you want to learn more and more about it. You want to live it, breath it, sleep with it. It consumes most of your waking thoughts, you may even dream about it. Eventually, sooner or later, the honeymoon wears off.. It isn't as interesting, it's now everyday and hohum. So you start to slip away, old bad habits come back to life, tedium asserts itself..

I have to admit that I am prone to catching these 'frenzies'. It is something I had to acknowledge when I found myself getting upset with my husband over it. He'd find a new hobby, invest alot of time and money into it, then when it didn't turn out perfectly, poof interest gone. I found myself getting anoyed when this little voice said in my head, "Hey there, you do this too..."

So now I find myself caught up in another 'frenzie', the raw food frenzie. I read, I post, I eat, I love, I learn.. yet that little voice is still back there saying 'Watch, just another phase.. You'll move on.." Yet I haven't always moved on. There are some things I've started that I didn't stop once the honeymoon was over. So what made the things I've stuck with different? Is it true love? Persistance on my part? I'm not sure. I love my parrots, and while I've gone through phases of interest like the waxing and waning of the moon, I still love them and enjoy learning about them. I love to read, that's never _ever_ changed. As soon as I learned about the written word when I was a child it is rare to find me without a book nearby. Weight watchers is another, I've had a love/hate relationship with that food plan. It is gone now, but it did help me loose 60lbs, I even managed to keep 40 of it off. I stuck with it, though sometimes much better than others, for four years. That is the thing most similar to raw.. so what made me stick with it?

I'm writeing this thought through, but the one word that keeps comming to mind is 'perfect'. I watch my husband and his pattern is when it doesn't come out 'perfect' it is gone. We've discussed this, he knows it is what he does, and he works on it. Looking at my own life I can see the same thing. We are raised to be 'perfect' children to one degree or another. In my case it was perfect grades, that got me alot of attention, it was something that I could do well. When it got hard and I didn't get perfect, that was a negative. A subtle one, not perfect for me was A's and B's, still very acceptable in my parents eyes. But even then I could detect the difference, all A's ment _very_ happy parents, A's and B's ment happy parents. So perfection is the goal that must be reached cause when my parents where _very_ happy I got alot of rewards. That starts the cycle of disappointment though, school got harder, spelling turned out to be a hurdle, and still is. It took alot of work to get a B in spelling, I almost never managed an A, sometimes I'd get a C. Those times were like the world comming to an end.. in my mind I was not a C student, that was not acceptable, and as far from perfect as could be. You'd think I'd flunked the class, but in my mind I just did!

Wanting perfection sets a person up for failure. I will never be perfect and nothing that I do or find will be perfect. Even on this journey there are contridictions and fustrations. When you buy your nuts, how raw is raw? To dehydrate or not to dehydrate? Sprouting grains? Juiceing? Alot to learn, and the learning is fun, but then the disappointments kick in. Like, "This cannot be the perfect diet for me, I'm not looseing weight fast enough!" Or how about, "This will never work, I cannot get perfectly raw/organic foods where I live!" Those thoughts kick in, the honeymoon is ending, failure or at least the apperance of is right around the corner soon to be followed by old habits and tedium... Right?

Wrong.. that isn't what I want this time! I want to be patient, I want to remember that this is a journey, that perfection is a dirty word and progress is the goal. One day at a time, one meal at a time, one bite at a time all the while learning and growing and becoming healthier every day. That is what I want when the 'frenzies' are gone and the manic interest has passed. Steady progress in a forward direction, even if that does mean straying from the path from time to time and having to forgive myself and allow myself to move away from the guilt to progress again.

So, my goal, in a nutshell... Progress, every day moving foward in this new chosen path of life... I hope it never ends, because when I can stop learning, that is when I will truely stagnate.

Jinx

P.S. Edited for spelling, I told you I couldn't spell *lol*

Ireland
02-18-2006, 03:27 PM
Great post. I've done the "frenzies" all my life. Very few things stick.

But raw food does! I've been dabbeling in it for years and now I'm in it, hopefully for life.

So I figure, if I'm going to be frenzied about anything, this is it. :)

Jackie1995
02-18-2006, 07:13 PM
Oh, wonderful!

I'm a "frenzie" too! I'm curious about a lot of stuff, and get into it pretty deeply, and once I've learned as much as I care to about a subject, I sort of move on, there are 300 other very interesting things lined up waiting for me to focus on...

This raw thing grabbed me too. But even though I'm not as focused on it as I was say, 9 months ago, I'm still vitally interested.

Best of all, I feel GREAT and I don't have to clean the kitchen! Yay! <--just joking around a bit ;-)

I think this lifestyle is easiest when

1) there is a great variety of food available to eat

(not Costco sized amounts, either, just like maybe 2 peaches, 2 pears, 6 bananas, some apples...you get the picture. Same for leafy greens: watercress, kale, spinach, beet greens, romaine - not a ton, just enough to keep it interesting. I shop every 3 days or so.)

2) I don't feel compelled to talk to everyone about this lifestyle.

That gets tedious. I hate having to counter the common arguements. I just don't talk about it, so I'm not doing the "holier than thou" thing which I can do VERY WELL, thank you!

3) I get on the scale and see I've lost some more unsightly blubber - this is a great affirmation that I'm doing the right thing. If you're already thin, go for the muscles. That's what I'm doing - the muscles will show soon enough!

4) People I haven't seen for a while tell me how RADIANT I look...I love these kinds of compliments.

When they ask me what I've changed, my (slightly flippant) remark is "Well, it MUST be those dark leafy greens!" They all nod, say silly stuff like "I don't like veggies" or "yeah, I've heard that but I'm not interested" or some such nonsense. I go my way looking radiant, they stay where they are ... well, NOT looking radiant. The path is there, some just won't see it...

that's my 2 cents...

So nice to know I'm not the only frenzier on the block!

Raw Jewelrylady
02-18-2006, 07:16 PM
Yes...I've done the "frenzie" w/a lot also...I have been doing the Raw "frenzie" for a while...& now I'm going to do the Raw ..."simple." :)

Lana

sweetgoddess
02-18-2006, 10:42 PM
Wonderful post and something we all definitely experience. Everything waxes and wanes, it is the natural order of things. This is something we should be taught to bless and recognize really. You see it in relationships, friendships, jobs, hobbies, the seasons......etc

Learning to allow both phases of one course is difficult and takes time. They both serve a purpose - the waxing and the waning. But so often we dont ride out the low, slowed down periods, not realizing that it leads back to the high.
I think it is learning to ride these ups and downs through with some awareness that makes something "become" you. Like a raw lifestyle as example.

Eventually, if you ride out enough lows and highs, you wind up in a place of balance! Yeah! :)

Warmly~
Carmel

rawpriestess
02-19-2006, 04:55 AM
Sweetgoddess,

How beautifully put.

I am riding the lows right now, but I can feel a HIGH coming, when it is sunny outside, I can feel the highs very intensly, and I eat raw, then the rains hit and I feel more lows, I've never been much of a Sad--Seasonal affective disorder type of person, and I am attribuiting it to being raw or mostly raw for over a year.

I feel when I am raw, that I feel things much more deeply.

So, being 100% raw for a few months, then about 90% raw for a few months, and I am reacting deeply to the sun.

So, one more reason to move to the sunshine, LOL

or at lest go visit.

great thread, I am a frenzies type person too.

sweetgoddess
02-19-2006, 09:36 AM
RP, I too am riding the lows right now. I send you one big loving hug to help you through!

<hug>

sport
02-19-2006, 12:15 PM
I am on Sudoku at the moment. Hope it passes soon because I do it in bed and do not get to sleep for ages. Maybe my next frenzie will be worse so I will "leave well enough alone".

sport
02-19-2006, 12:20 PM
Just reread that title and see it is "raw frenzie". That is one aspect of my life that is no longer a frenzie.
I used to tell people that the reason that I liked to move house is because I liked change in my life and did not want to change my husband so I settled for changing the house.
I do not want to change my diet so will have to settle for other things to get frenzied about.

sweetgoddess
02-19-2006, 12:36 PM
Sport what is Sudoku??? So curious now!

sport
02-19-2006, 04:13 PM
Sport what is Sudoku??? So curious now!
It is like a crossword only with numbers instead of words.
You start with a nine by nine grid which is subdivided into nine mini grids. You are given a few numbers to start with and the object is to get the numbers one to nine in each column, row and minigrid. The degree of difficulty will depend on the numbers that you are given to start.
I am a little hooked on it at the moment.

eatyourbroccoli
02-19-2006, 04:37 PM
it's been a turbulent experience for 8 months with me.

but i'm so happy i've stuck with it. i'm now at a much more peaceful place, and every day i improve..even if it's just "i broke my record for consecutive raw days...SEVEN, instead of six.."

one step at a time

allow yourself to mess up. don't stress

learn from it, grow, and keep pushing forward

if this is the right lifestyle for YOU, it'll happen

misslinda
02-24-2006, 09:44 PM
Jinxiekat (!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Yep! I'm that way with everything :eek: part of the other prob is being ENTP. :p

I'm a global thinker so I have to epxlore it with all my senses. I have gotten to the point where I can function with it rather than be mentally and phsycially divided.

OHhhhhhhhh yes, the good ole grades.........my parents developed what was called doing better "Infinitely BEYONED A+" I still have to train myself to not fall into this destructive way of thinking.......THANK YOU FOR SHEDDING LITE!


:p Frenzie Friends

ArcticMist
02-24-2006, 10:01 PM
Oh wow.. a kindred spirit. You said it so well. That is exactly what I go through. Then I feel guilty after its done that I spent all this money for what.

This raw thing. VERY grueling slow. Having a very rough time.. But I have not seen the sun in a week. (I moved from MI to TX so I could see the sun LOL)

So I have been eating horribly. The sun is coming on Teusday and the thought makes me make a step forward..I do want to go slow. I dont want this frenzie to be obsessive then crash from it and it is gone.

Anyway. Well said!

ljannise
03-01-2006, 09:03 AM
Are you refferring to the "Honeymoon"? I've heard some raw holy rollers go on about that. I cant imagine it ever going away though. Seems that we ALL have a constant cycle of highs & lows.

I suppress my frenzies. Noone would understand it anyways so I keep it my little secret. If they ask (to avoid being criticized) I just say "eatin' healthy".

haha

But I love coming here to read everyone's thoughts/questions/opinions. Everyone is just like me.

Indi
03-04-2006, 05:46 PM
Im familiar with the 'frenzies'
Art and crafts, musical instruments, sports to name a few!
Its all helped shape me into who I am.

If raw becomes a frenzie for me (some how i dont think so) at least it has been a healthy one!

Sport -I had a sudoku frenzie around christmas time...it passed!
I couldnt get to sleep as i kept looking at the next puzzle then had to do it! :eek:

sport
03-05-2006, 09:45 AM
Sport -I had a sudoku frenzie around christmas time...it passed!
I couldnt get to sleep as i kept looking at the next puzzle then had to do it! :eek:
I have not got over it yet. My grandson got cross with me last night. He said that I had been playing MY games for far too long. He wanted my full attention.